> JESSICA,I AM A DESCENDANT OF BILLY MC INTOSH MENTIONED IN THE LETTER.THANK YOU SO MUCH. SYLVIA FERRITER (JAMES JONES) KIT 36906 OG GOLD GROUP. JESSICAFrom: [email protected] >Date: 2008/07/22 Tue PM 03:43:48 CDT >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) >Jessica, > >I have been watching the messages going back and forth between you and >others about different Powell families. Thought you might be interested in >some history of Alabama and the Indian tribes that inhabited the area around >the beginning of the 19th century. You spoke of your family intermarrying >with the Indians and other natives of the area. The quote that you will see >below is part of a collection of letters written by Gen. Thomas S. Woodard. >He knew the Indian tribes of Alabama, Georgia and western Florida better >than any man or account I have read. Read down into this letter and you >will see the Powell name and how it applies.......maybe to your family, who >knows. > >Letter from Gen. Thomas S. Woodard: >WHEELING, WINN PARISH, LA., >December 9, 1857. E. HANRICK, Esq.: > > My Old Friend: - Your letter came to hand safe, after taking its time, as >I have, in going through the world, quite leisurely. You will find five >dollars enclosed: pay yourself, and hand the other two and a half to the >editor of the Mail: say to him, that after he has worked that out, and he >learns that I have not worked out, he may continue to send his paper. I see >my letter to you, of May last, in the Mail. The editor speaks in very >flattering terms of my capability in giving sketches and making them >accurate and interesting. I would be proud that I could do so, and prove to >his readers that he was not mistaken. It is true, I have known Alabama a >great while, and many of its earliest settlers - particularly Indians and >Indian countrymen. And I would most willingly, if I thought any facts that >have come within my knowledge, or circumstances related to me by others in >whom I could place the most implicit reliance, would be interesting to the >readers of the Mail, give them. But as I write no better than in my younger >days, but much worse; and as anything I might write would to most persons be >of little interest, I must now abandon it. Besides, you know my capacity for >embellishment (the only thing that suits too many readers,) is not such as >would render my sketches very interesting to many. I have no doubt but that, >if I could be with you, and many more old acquaintances that I left in >Alabama, (and hope they still live,) and could get around a lightwood fire, >I could interest you - or, at least, spin over old times and bring many >things to your recollection that you have forgotten. (I do not allude to old >store accounts. Though you have lost many, I never heard of your forgetting >one.) > I often wish myself back in Alabama, and have as often regretted leaving >Tuskegee. I was the founder of Tuskegee. I selected the place for the county >site, or place for the court house, in 1833. I built the first house on that >ridge, though James Dent built the first house on the court house square, >after the lots were laid off. The day I made the selection, there was a >great ball-play with the Tusgegees, Chunnanugges, Chehaws and Tallesees. A >Col. Deas, a South Carolinian, was with me. Ned, those were good days, were >they not? I can never recall them, nor many other things that were very >cheering to me then. I wonder if my five cedar trees, that I planted at the >McGarr place when I owned it, are living yet? Ned, I, in company with my >family, old Aunt Betsy Kurnells, (or Connells,) Tuskeneha, and old John >McQueen, dug up those cedars, when they were very small, from under a large >cedar that shaded the birth-place of Ussa Yoholo, or, Black Drink, who, >after the murder of General Thompson, in Florida, was known to the world as >Oceola. This man was the great grand-son of James McQueen. You know his >father - the little Englishman, Powell. His mother was Polly Copinger. The >rail road from Montgomery to West Point runs within five feet, it not over >the place, where the cabin stood in which Billy Powell, or Ussa Yoholo, was >born. The old cedar was destroyed by Gen. McIver's negroes, when grading the >road. It was in an old field, between the Nufaupba (what is now called >Ufaupee), and a little creek that the Indians called Catsa Bogah, which >mouths just below where the rail road crosses Nufaupba; and on the >Montgomery side of Nufaupba, and on a plantation owned by a Mr. Vaughn, when >I left the country, rests the remains of old James McQueen, a Scotchman, who >died in 1811, aged - from what Col. Hawkins and many others said he was - >128 years. He informed Col. Hawkins that he was born 1683, and came into the >Creek nation in 1716, a deserter from an English vessel anchored at St. >Augustine, East Florida, for striking a naval officer. When I planted those >cedars, I had a wife and three children. I thought, then, to make at the >foot of one of them a resting place. But more than twenty years have >elapsed, and many changes have taken place with me and those that were with >me then, and I care but little now when or where I may be picked up. But >still, I would be glad to know that the cedars were spared; for, none who >knew the hands of those that assisted me in planting them there, could think >of molesting them - unless, there should be one with a marring hand, like >him that destroyed the old lettered beech at the old Federal crossing of the >Persimmon creek, and the old Council Oak that once stood in front of Suckey >Kurnells' or Connells' house, which you knew well. Yes, it was under that >oak, where you and I have heard many a good yarn spun, both by our white as >well as red friends - many of whom have long since gone to that world of >which we read and talk so much, and so much dreaded by many, (if not more,) >and which never can be known to living man. Yes, friend, it was under that >oak - held as sacred by the Indians, and should have been as memorable among >Alabamians, as the old Charter Oak of New England was, among the people of >the North where you and I have aided in placing the brand of Molly Thompson >upon many a black bottle. I rented out the plantation one year, while I >owned it, and forbid the tree being touched. The man renting it complained >so much about it shading his crops, I allowed either three or five dollars >for it, I now forget which, and would now pay $100 to have it living, as it >was when I left the place, were it possible to restore it. You have often >heard of our mutual friend, old Capt. Billy Walker, tell about him and >myself, camping there with Cols. Hawkins, Barnett and McDonald, of the army, >and Gen. John Sevier, one of the heroes of King's Mountain. (Col. Barnett >was the father of Tom. and Nat. Barnett.) On the side of the Indians there >were Billy McIntosh, Big Warrior, Alex. Kurnells, and many others. Kurnells >was the interpreter, wearing that Iroquois coat you have often seen in the >possession of the big woman, his wife. On that occasion, Kurnells exhibited >many Indian curiosities; among them was the buck's horn, resembling a mans' >hand, which you have seen in my possession since. Some years ago I gave the >horn to Bishop Soule, of Nashville. There is not an Indian in the Creek >nation that ever visited Alex. Kurnell's, but would recognize the horn as >quick as you would your horse shoe. Gen. Sevier lived but a few days after >this, and his remains lie in the hill near old Fort Decatur; but not a stone >or board marks the resting place of the patriot, which is the case with >hundreds of others that lived in his day, and like himself, served their >country for their country's good, and not their own. > > This is becoming tedious to you, no doubt, and I must stop. But you can >excuse it, as I live alone and have so little to employ my time about, that >my mind is often led to contemplate things that have passed and would have >been forgotten, but for my lonely situation. It affords me some satisfaction >to think and talk, (when I meet an old friend,) of old times; and after >commencing to write, these old things would appear, and I felt bound to give >them some attention. > > >Yours, > >T. S. W. > > > > > >Hope you found this interesting. There is much more written by Gen. Woodard >at > >http://jrshelby.com/creek/woodward.htm > >Hank Wenzler >[email protected] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:12 PM >Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) > > >> >> My father, Billy Gene Powell (1949) dna, born in California (Parents are >> both from Oklahoma) >> >> Kit #N63296 >> >> >> Billy (Bill) was Hanford Powell's son. >> >> Hanford had two biological children, Jimmie (female) and Billy Powell. He >> adopted four more children... >> His father, Jimmie or James Powell had several children from two different >> wives, those are Willie, Hanford, Jesse, Edna, Cecil, Elise and more.... >> His father Thomas had Billy and Jimmie. >> >> >> P.S. The name Billy, Jimmie, James, and Thomas are repeated continually.. >> and usually their middle names are Gene, Eugene, G. >> And.. my father says, that to throw people off they always named their >> first born boys anything ending in IE or Y. (Helps the confused madness). >> >> My Grandfather said on his tapes that there was a Stuart that came over to >> US from England/Scotland and married a Native, changing his name to >> Powell.. that's were the Powell begins (don't really know why Powell.. ?) >> It's said that his son, had a Native name and the soldiers (native english >> speakers) couldn't pronounce his name and therefore called him Billy >> Powell (Don't know exact root of that).. And from there.. my >> great-grandfathers continued to marry either Natives or Blacks.. (Stuarts >> son was a half breed and not allowed to marry a white person, therefore >> continued to marry within his mother's race).... Billy Powell's son was >> said to be from his second wife, a freed slave. >> >> That is all oral recording from my Grandfather.. and I have yet to >> substantiate it... I got a hold of book about Billy Powell's geneology and >> hopefully will see what I can make of it... :) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jessica >> >> >> ~Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is >> wrong?~ >> >> ****When I give food to the poor they call me a saint. When I ask why the >> poor have no food, they call me a communist. (Don Helder Camara)**** >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:36:36 -0400 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) >>> >>> Jessica, >>> Have you done DNA on your Powell's and if you have where can I find it on >>> the chart? I live in Morgan cty and just a few miles from Lawrence county >>> and >>> would like to know more about your Powell's. Thanks, Frances >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thomas PowellAgeThomas PowellAge in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 >>> Birthplace:Alabama Home in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, >>> AlabamaGender:Male Post >>> Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF >>> C Powell47 >>> Martha J Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas >>> Powell3 James L Powell4.12 in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 >>> Birthplace:Alabama Home >>> in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post >>> Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C >>> Powell47 Martha J >>> Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas Powell3 >>> James >>> L Powell4.12 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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Sylvia, Actually Hank Wenzler who sent that letter to me.. And I'm indebted to him as well.. Thank You very much for posting that.. That's my Billy Powell (Osceola).. I've never read that about him.. Thank You soo incredibly much Hank. Jessica _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008