Hello, I wrote a while back regarding my Powell relations.. and what little we know about them.. I've been digging and found out some more names, dates and places.. soo if any of you recognize any names let me know... James (Jimmie) Lee Powell (My great-grandfather) Married to Dora Lee Clifton DOB: 2/8/1881 Thomas Powell (His father) Married to Mary Thomas Terry DOB: 04/05/1856 and from there? I'm working on it.. Thomas was murdered in the early 1900s and a lot of his information from his family was lost. Most of my family are from the southern states. Thanks, Jessica Powell _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008

Is there anyone in our Powell DNA community who have links to any of the Powells in the Laurens district of SC, during the period 1800-1850? If so, please respond with your Kit#. Ron Powell Kit #93410

jim, thank you for the response - very interesting as always !! just wish we could be more certain about sylvia's grt grand parents just cannot understand if they were from a male powell, why the 3 boys would go by jones in a powell household ??? In a message dated 7/15/2008 6:19:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: The minimum number of generations for a 67 marker match would be zero, that is brothers. In the case of Sylvia's great grandfather I'm guessing that the Powell man the Jones boys are living with on the census, sorry I don't remember which year, is either their grandfather or an uncle. I really can't see them being removed from the Powell family by more than three generations. When you know there isn't a connection in three or four generation I would expect to find one within two or three more generation, but that is based on AVERAGE mutations rates and PROBABILITY. If you flip a coin ten times you should get five heads and five tails, but we know this normally doesn't happen. If you repeated this test 1,000 time the AVERAGE would be 5 and 5 but reality won't be. I know this isn't a good answer, but I'm not sure there is a good answer. Jim Barrett [email protected] wrote: what i would really like to know is how "recent" in time it is or the "least" amount of generations i.e. mid 1800's ? maybe 4 generations ? for sylvia's "missing" unknown great grd f ?? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

The one written by Silas Lucas I think his name was. Book 2. I have packed my books away in storeage for the time being. Here is a bit of what I have - not all by any means John 3rd, #9page 372 from book, died 8/7/1802, wife Margaret, daughters mary, Elizabeth, Milley, Rebecca, sons Oliver 1790, John IV, Josiah 12/30/1775, Thomas 1771 Josiah, 1775, 12/28/1848, Adams County, MS, sons Thomas 1810, Oliver 3/12/1815, Madison, GA, 5/16/1892, Walker County, TX, William 1812, Josiah Jr 4/17/1817, Madison, GA, died 3/10/1865, Richmond, VA, John 12/16/1824, died 11/30/1864, Battle of Franklin, TN, number of daughters Oliver, family buried primarily in Walker County, TX Josiah Jr, Josiah Joseph Powell, 3/3/1841, John Wesley 10/2/1842, William Abraham, 1844, Lewis 1845, Green Alexander 1847, Dewitt Clinton, Robert Brude, Pinkney Womack, etc Bob Powell Houston -------------- Original message -------------- From: diane branam <[email protected]> > Hi Bob, > > Which Powell Book are you referring to? I agree there are several names that > fit into the group Chris and I are both descended from. The green group. We > have donors for a Josiah S., Green, Allen, William M., 2 James Powells. > > Thanks,~Diane > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

There is a family out of the Powell Book that sure does have a great deal of names with dates of birth the same or similar to quite a few people you show on this list. Josiah Powell, had a son Oliver that wound up in Walker County, Texas James Powell There is a James M. Powell, born in Pendleton, SC or so he said that wound up in Walker County, TX There is a Green Powell, that I tracked a while back that came to Smith County, Texas. He had kids all over the South and seemed to fit the above family. Allen Powell Did not spend a great deal of time, but has anyone checked this family line against all of the above and below people. The Powell Book did not have DNA and thus has some errors. Bob Powell Houston, bottom of the DNA pile -------------- Original message -------------- From: Chris Powell <[email protected]> > I think the answer depends on who you have to test and what information you have > on the ancestors of your test subjects. Those of us in the Green group can be > quite certain we are related, but exactly how is still an open question. Seven > of us match on 37 markers. Below are the known most ancient ancestors for our > group: > > James Powell b. 1759 - 36 marker match, 1 different > James Powell b. ca1787 - 36 marker match, 1 different > William M. Powell b. ca1805 - 1 exact match, 1 36 marker match, 1 different > Josiah S. Powell b. ca1817-1820 - exact match > Allen Powell b. 1822 - exact match > James Dyson Powell b. 1824 - exact match on 25 markers, 1 36 marker match, 1 > different > Cyrus Powell b. 1825 - exact match > William Powell b. ca 1830-1835 - exact match > John Clay Powell b. 1841 - exact match > James William Powell b. ca1856 - 36 marker match, 1 different > > There's also a Dock McClelland who is a 36 marker match, 1 different but may be > a Powell descendant(I think, the exact details aren't coming to mind at the > moment). > > There are several other groups that are clearly groups of related people. It > helps narrow the search, and if you are and exact match to someone who descends > from a man who may be your ancestor, then that dramatically improves the odds > that he is, or perhaps even makes it conclusive. The problem is that you don't > absolutes, you get percentages. A 37 marker match with another person gives you > these percentages: > > 83.49% that you share a common ancestor in the last 4 generations. > > 97.28% that you share a common ancestor in the last 8 generations. > > 99.55% that you share a common ancestor in the last 12 generations. > > 99.93% that you share a common ancestor in the last 16 generations. > > 99.99% that you share a common ancestor in the last 20 generations. > > 100% that you share a common ancestor in the last 24 generations. > > I'm very interested, particularly after going over these percentages again, to > see what we're looking at once we get our upgrades to 67 markers that we > recently ordered. > > Chris > > --- On Tue, 7/15/08, [email protected] wrote: > > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:36 PM > > what i would really like to know is how "recent" in time it is or > the > "least" amount of generations > > i.e. mid 1800's ? maybe 4 generations ? for sylvia's > "missing" > unknown great grd f ?? > > Sylvia, > > I believe that any time back to at least 1700 would be a good time frame. > > Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX > > > jim, > my researcher wants to know how far back a 67 marker might go back.i told > her > perhaps as far as 1700s.is this about correct or is it much closer in time > line?still learning,sylvia ferriter kit number 36906 james jones. > > > > > > > Markers 13 - 25 and markers 38 - 60 have been added to kit 123778. > > Thanks. > > Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] > Barrett Surname DNA - > http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm > Powell Surname DNA - > http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob,   Which Powell Book are you referring to?   I agree there are several names that fit into the group Chris and I are both descended from.   The green group.   We have donors for a Josiah S., Green, Allen, William M., 2 James Powells.   Thanks,~Diane

Markers 26 - 37 and markers 61 - 67 have been added to kit 123778. Markers 38 - 67 have been added to kit 29785. The Haplogroup for kit 69502 has been confirmed by a Deep Clade test. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

The minimum number of generations for a 67 marker match would be zero, that is brothers. In the case of Sylvia's great grandfather I'm guessing that the Powell man the Jones boys are living with on the census, sorry I don't remember which year, is either their grandfather or an uncle. I really can't see them being removed from the Powell family by more than three generations. When you know there isn't a connection in three or four generation I would expect to find one within two or three more generation, but that is based on AVERAGE mutations rates and PROBABILITY. If you flip a coin ten times you should get five heads and five tails, but we know this normally doesn't happen. If you repeated this test 1,000 time the AVERAGE would be 5 and 5 but reality won't be. I know this isn't a good answer, but I'm not sure there is a good answer. Jim Barrett [email protected] wrote: what i would really like to know is how "recent" in time it is or the "least" amount of generations i.e. mid 1800's ? maybe 4 generations ? for sylvia's "missing" unknown great grd f ??

what i would really like to know is how "recent" in time it is or the "least" amount of generations i.e. mid 1800's ? maybe 4 generations ? for sylvia's "missing" unknown great grd f ?? Sylvia, I believe that any time back to at least 1700 would be a good time frame. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX jim, my researcher wants to know how far back a 67 marker might go back.i told her perhaps as far as 1700s.is this about correct or is it much closer in time line?still learning,sylvia ferriter kit number 36906 james jones. Markers 13 - 25 and markers 38 - 60 have been added to kit 123778. Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

I think the answer depends on who you have to test and what information you have on the ancestors of your test subjects.  Those of us in the Green group can be quite certain we are related, but exactly how is still an open question.  Seven of us match on 37 markers.  Below are the known most ancient ancestors for our group:   James Powell b. 1759 - 36 marker match, 1 different James Powell b. ca1787 - 36 marker match, 1 different William M. Powell b. ca1805 - 1 exact match, 1 36 marker match, 1 different Josiah S. Powell b. ca1817-1820 - exact match Allen Powell b. 1822 - exact match James Dyson Powell b. 1824 - exact match on 25 markers, 1 36 marker match, 1 different Cyrus Powell b. 1825 - exact match William Powell b. ca 1830-1835 - exact match John Clay Powell b. 1841 - exact match James William Powell b. ca1856 - 36 marker match, 1 different   There's also a Dock McClelland who is a 36 marker match, 1 different but may be a Powell descendant(I think, the exact details aren't coming to mind at the moment).    There are several other groups that are clearly groups of related people.  It helps narrow the search, and if you are and exact match to someone who descends from a man who may be your ancestor, then that dramatically improves the odds that he is, or perhaps even makes it conclusive.  The problem is that you don't absolutes, you get percentages.  A 37 marker match with another person gives you these percentages:   83.49% that you share a common ancestor in the last 4 generations.   97.28% that you share a common ancestor in the last 8 generations.   99.55% that you share a common ancestor in the last 12 generations.   99.93% that you share a common ancestor in the last 16 generations.   99.99% that you share a common ancestor in the last 20 generations.   100% that you share a common ancestor in the last 24 generations.   I'm very interested, particularly after going over these percentages again, to see what we're looking at once we get our upgrades to 67 markers that we recently ordered.   Chris --- On Tue, 7/15/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:36 PM what i would really like to know is how "recent" in time it is or the "least" amount of generations i.e. mid 1800's ? maybe 4 generations ? for sylvia's "missing" unknown great grd f ?? Sylvia, I believe that any time back to at least 1700 would be a good time frame. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX jim, my researcher wants to know how far back a 67 marker might go back.i told her perhaps as far as 1700s.is this about correct or is it much closer in time line?still learning,sylvia ferriter kit number 36906 james jones. Markers 13 - 25 and markers 38 - 60 have been added to kit 123778. Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sylvia, I believe that any time back to at least 1700 would be a good time frame. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX jim, my researcher wants to know how far back a 67 marker might go back.i told her perhaps as far as 1700s.is this about correct or is it much closer in time line?still learning,sylvia ferriter kit number 36906 james jones. Markers 13 - 25 and markers 38 - 60 have been added to kit 123778. Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

jim, my researcher wants to know how far back a 67 marker might go back.i told her perhaps as far as 1700s.is this about correct or is it much closer in time line?still learning,sylvia ferriter kit number 36906 james jones. Markers 13 - 25 and markers 38 - 60 have been added to kit 123778. Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Markers 13 - 25 and markers 38 - 60 have been added to kit 123778. Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

If anyone is researching a Jacob Powell (I am not), there is a will listed for a Jacob Powell in 1819 in New Hanover Co. NC. See: http://www.copies1918.com/newhanoverc.html

Markers 1 - 12 have been added for kits 122891 and 123778. Both of these kits have additional markers ordered. Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

THE JURY LISTS of South Carolina, 1778-1779 This volume is the next best thing to a census of South Carolina during the American Revolution. It names about 9,000 adult males according to the administrative district in which each one lived. Was $18.50 Now $13.50 http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=2685&NLC-GenPointers1 HISTORY OF ANSON COUNTY, North Carolina, 1750-1976 Anson County, which at its formation in 1750 encompassed all of central and western North Carolina and portions of South Carolina, is the parent of the North Carolina counties of Mecklenburg, Montgomery, Richmond, Rowan, and Union. The first third of this work traces the political history of Anson. The middle portion covers Anson's social history: education, religion, agriculture and industry, social and cultural life, etc. Genealogists will be most interested in the final third of the book. It provides biographical sketches of scores of "Men and Women of Note" and a large collection of Anson County source records. Was $39.95 Now $29.95 http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=9238&NLC-GenPointers1

KENTUCKY COLONIZATION IN TEXAS. A History of the Peters Colony The Peters Colony provided for the settlement--mostly by Kentuckians--of vast tracts of land in northeastern Texas during the years 1842 to 1848, primarily in the present-day counties of Collin, Cooke, Dallas, Denton, Ellis, Grayson, and Tarrant. This publication gives a history of the Peters Colony as well as a list of the colonists themselves. Each of the 2,000 settlers is identified with the following information: name, marital status, occupation, age, year of migration to Texas, county of settlement, state of birth, and state from which he migrated. Was $20.00 Now $14.95 http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=1144&NLC-GenPointers1

Has anyone in our group (or, are you aware of anyone else) who might have used Excel or similar software to display all of the Powell/Powel Heads of Households in Alabama in 1840 by county, with columns for males and females by age group? If it's available, it would be tremendously helpful. If not, perhaps it's something I could tackle in the future. Thanks, Ron Powell

John H Powell b. 1760 in Duplin, NC and d. 1820 in Twigg Co, GA. Had a son John Hathorn Powell who was born in 1800 in SC and died in 1867 in TX. That's all the John's that I have in that time frame. Sam -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandee @ Wind Point Park Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website Sam, Do you have the names of John H. Powell's children? I'm looking for a father for my John Powell...don't have dates but since it appears that my gg grandmother was his first child born in 1814 or 1815, we're assuming that our John was born abt 1795 or thereabouts. My gg grandmother claimed that she was born in SC. Thanks a bunch. Sandee Kit #63532 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sam Powell Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website Hi Robert, I to am in the Gold Group, but my data stops at my GGGGGrandfather John H Powell b. 1760 in Duplin, NC. I have no idea who his parents were or were to look. Sam Powell #115503 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Powell Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website Jim, Although I am in the Gold group, I have not been able to trace my ancestry back to Thomas Powell but to a John Powell who came over in 1609. I suspect that the two of them probably have a common ancestor back in England. Robert Jim Barrett wrote: > Markers 38 - 67 have been added to kit 32335 and 55091. > > We currently have 27 kits being upgraded to 67 markers. The current expected results date for most of these is August 18, 2008. > > A special thanks to all of you who have upgraded. > > If this is your ancestor "We have traced our ancestors back to Thomas Powell born in 1683 in the Isle of Wight, Virginia." please send me an e-mail at [email protected] providing your kit number and which son of Thomas you descend from. Thanks! > > Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sam, Do you have the names of John H. Powell's children? I'm looking for a father for my John Powell...don't have dates but since it appears that my gg grandmother was his first child born in 1814 or 1815, we're assuming that our John was born abt 1795 or thereabouts. My gg grandmother claimed that she was born in SC. Thanks a bunch. Sandee Kit #63532 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sam Powell Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website Hi Robert, I to am in the Gold Group, but my data stops at my GGGGGrandfather John H Powell b. 1760 in Duplin, NC. I have no idea who his parents were or were to look. Sam Powell #115503 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Powell Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website Jim, Although I am in the Gold group, I have not been able to trace my ancestry back to Thomas Powell but to a John Powell who came over in 1609. I suspect that the two of them probably have a common ancestor back in England. Robert Jim Barrett wrote: > Markers 38 - 67 have been added to kit 32335 and 55091. > > We currently have 27 kits being upgraded to 67 markers. The current expected results date for most of these is August 18, 2008. > > A special thanks to all of you who have upgraded. > > If this is your ancestor "We have traced our ancestors back to Thomas Powell born in 1683 in the Isle of Wight, Virginia." please send me an e-mail at [email protected] providing your kit number and which son of Thomas you descend from. Thanks! > > Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message