In a message dated 7/27/08 11:21:18 AM, [email protected] writes: > I just wondered if there were any Powells on this list who lived near > enough in NC that they could find some land records on my Eaton Powell for me. I > live in CA and am not planning on going there in the near future.  I was given > the information that Eaton Powell sold his land to William Powell, Sr before > he left to move to Montgomery Co. TN. This is probably his uncle, William > Powell, brother to Aaron Powell..... > If you have an LDS Family Search Center near you, you can order microfilm rolls of records from Halifax Co. NC to be shipped from Salt Lake City to your local family search center. Just go to the center and they will have an index of all records held in Salt Lake. This includes records from the UK if you have ancestors there you want to search for. Barbara ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

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I just wondered if there were any Powells on this list who lived near enough in NC that they could find some land records on my Eaton Powell for me. I live in CA and am not planning on going there in the near future. I was given the information that Eaton Powell sold his land to William Powell, Sr before he left to move to Montgomery Co. TN. This is probably his uncle, William Powell, brother to Aaron Powell..... Deed 23, p. 150 EATON POWELL and wife HOLLY of Halifax Co. to Wm POWELL, SR of same. 21 Jan 1815. $146 1/2. 65 acres on both sides of Great Quankey, joining Bagby, Day, Fulgum, Wit Davis Bagby Thomas Martin, Ely Hale May Ct 1815 also Halifax Co., NC Deed Book, Deed 23, p. 242 EATON POWELL and wife HOLLY of Halifax Co. to Wm POWELL, SR of same. 19 Oct 1815 87 Pounds. 87 acres on both sides of Great Quantley, joining Bagby, Day, Fulgum, Wit Davis Bagby, Andrew Hail Quantley Creek, Lane ? Moody, Wm Powell. Wit: Peter Avent, Richard N. Smith Feb Ct 1816. This supports that the oldest son, Benjamin Eaton Powell was born in Halifax Co. NC 10 Mar 1815. Perhaps they waited until he was old enough to travel before they left. I've been told there was more than one group that left that area to move to Montgomery Co. TN. The earliest record I have of him in TN is a notation in 1818 that he was on a road crew building a road from Clarksville to Palmyra. His son, William C. Powell was born Feb 10, 1818 and always stated TN as his birthplace. I also found in a book about Clarksville, TN that two orphaned girls begged "The Powells" to take them along when they left NC. They sure could be the ones I found living with them on the 1820 census in Clarksville. I never knew who those older girls were before I read that. Thanks, Linda Garrett Livermore, CA

This information is helpful; however, as I view the results of our respective tests, there are significant differences. I will keep your data on file. Thanks, ron -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-b[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Powells in Laurens District of SC Ron, Just some additional info: GGrandfather: William David Powell,b.circa 1812-15. 1850 census: Macon county, AL 1870 census: Jefferson county, AL 1880 census: McLennan county, TX 1900 census: Greer County, OK, d. 1901 Hank Wenzler [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "powbak" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:27 PM Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Powells in Laurens District of SC > Is there anyone in our Powell DNA community who have links to any of the > Powells in the Laurens district of SC, during the period 1800-1850? If > so, > please respond with your Kit#. > > Ron Powell Kit #93410 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The generations are: John Clay Powell - (1841 - 1907) Alfred Clay Powell (1874 - 1943) Living donor - Kit #109603

Jim- I hope this makes sense. I (kit#29585) match 36 of 37 markers with kit #41020. Kit#41020 marker 459a is an 8, instead of being a 9, which would be perfect match. This kit is my closest relative on the matches; our 3rd great grandfathers were brothers. Way back when this was first posted you made a comment about the 459a marker(which i have since lost), that there could be a mistake or something. Thanks for all you do. Dickey Powell

Dickey, 459a & b are paired together. 41020 has 8/8 while everyone else in the green group has 8/9. If something happens to mess up one of these markers it tries to correct itself. It is not unusual for an error to occur in this repair attempt. Sometimes rather than repairing itself it just copies the other marker in the pair. Also these markers have a high mutation rate (the marker names are in RED). I think all of you in the green group share a common ancestor. I believe your 36/37 match with 41020 is a closer match than your 36/37 match with 27450. Here you differ on DYS442, which has a slower mutation rate. The thing we all have to remember is that a mutation at any marker can show up at any birth. I hope this helps. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX [email protected] wrote: Jim- I hope this makes sense. I (kit#29585) match 36 of 37 markers with kit #41020. Kit#41020 marker 459a is an 8, instead of being a 9, which would be perfect match. This kit is my closest relative on the matches; our 3rd great grandfathers were brothers. Way back when this was first posted you made a comment about the 459a marker(which i have since lost), that there could be a mistake or something. Thanks for all you do. Dickey Powell

im in gold group so i dont know hoe closely we are connected.the powells are connected on my fathers paternnal side.billy mcintosh is related on my fatheres mothers side.seems american indians on both which i never knew.thanks again to hank for the bletter. im in the gold group so dont know how closely we are connected.>From: Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels <[email protected]> >Date: 2008/07/22 Tue PM 11:22:33 CDT >To: [email protected] >Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Letter From the General.... > >Sylvia, > >Actually Hank Wenzler who sent that letter to me.. And I'm indebted to him as well.. Thank You very much for posting that.. That's my Billy Powell (Osceola).. >I've never read that about him.. > >Thank You soo incredibly much Hank. > >Jessica > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. >http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html? ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, I have a potential donor from my grandfathers bothers family. I want to pay for the sample - at least 37 markers, and have it sent to my contact in his family. How do I go about this and how much does it cost? Bob Powell [email protected] last fellow on the page -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Jim Barrett" <[email protected]> > Markers 13 - 37 have been added to kit 122891. > > Thanks. > > Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] > Barrett Surname DNA - > http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm > Powell Surname DNA - > http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

> JESSICA,I AM A DESCENDANT OF BILLY MC INTOSH MENTIONED IN THE LETTER.THANK YOU SO MUCH. SYLVIA FERRITER (JAMES JONES) KIT 36906 OG GOLD GROUP. JESSICAFrom: [email protected] >Date: 2008/07/22 Tue PM 03:43:48 CDT >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) >Jessica, > >I have been watching the messages going back and forth between you and >others about different Powell families. Thought you might be interested in >some history of Alabama and the Indian tribes that inhabited the area around >the beginning of the 19th century. You spoke of your family intermarrying >with the Indians and other natives of the area. The quote that you will see >below is part of a collection of letters written by Gen. Thomas S. Woodard. >He knew the Indian tribes of Alabama, Georgia and western Florida better >than any man or account I have read. Read down into this letter and you >will see the Powell name and how it applies.......maybe to your family, who >knows. > >Letter from Gen. Thomas S. Woodard: >WHEELING, WINN PARISH, LA., >December 9, 1857. E. HANRICK, Esq.: > > My Old Friend: - Your letter came to hand safe, after taking its time, as >I have, in going through the world, quite leisurely. You will find five >dollars enclosed: pay yourself, and hand the other two and a half to the >editor of the Mail: say to him, that after he has worked that out, and he >learns that I have not worked out, he may continue to send his paper. I see >my letter to you, of May last, in the Mail. The editor speaks in very >flattering terms of my capability in giving sketches and making them >accurate and interesting. I would be proud that I could do so, and prove to >his readers that he was not mistaken. It is true, I have known Alabama a >great while, and many of its earliest settlers - particularly Indians and >Indian countrymen. And I would most willingly, if I thought any facts that >have come within my knowledge, or circumstances related to me by others in >whom I could place the most implicit reliance, would be interesting to the >readers of the Mail, give them. But as I write no better than in my younger >days, but much worse; and as anything I might write would to most persons be >of little interest, I must now abandon it. Besides, you know my capacity for >embellishment (the only thing that suits too many readers,) is not such as >would render my sketches very interesting to many. I have no doubt but that, >if I could be with you, and many more old acquaintances that I left in >Alabama, (and hope they still live,) and could get around a lightwood fire, >I could interest you - or, at least, spin over old times and bring many >things to your recollection that you have forgotten. (I do not allude to old >store accounts. Though you have lost many, I never heard of your forgetting >one.) > I often wish myself back in Alabama, and have as often regretted leaving >Tuskegee. I was the founder of Tuskegee. I selected the place for the county >site, or place for the court house, in 1833. I built the first house on that >ridge, though James Dent built the first house on the court house square, >after the lots were laid off. The day I made the selection, there was a >great ball-play with the Tusgegees, Chunnanugges, Chehaws and Tallesees. A >Col. Deas, a South Carolinian, was with me. Ned, those were good days, were >they not? I can never recall them, nor many other things that were very >cheering to me then. I wonder if my five cedar trees, that I planted at the >McGarr place when I owned it, are living yet? Ned, I, in company with my >family, old Aunt Betsy Kurnells, (or Connells,) Tuskeneha, and old John >McQueen, dug up those cedars, when they were very small, from under a large >cedar that shaded the birth-place of Ussa Yoholo, or, Black Drink, who, >after the murder of General Thompson, in Florida, was known to the world as >Oceola. This man was the great grand-son of James McQueen. You know his >father - the little Englishman, Powell. His mother was Polly Copinger. The >rail road from Montgomery to West Point runs within five feet, it not over >the place, where the cabin stood in which Billy Powell, or Ussa Yoholo, was >born. The old cedar was destroyed by Gen. McIver's negroes, when grading the >road. It was in an old field, between the Nufaupba (what is now called >Ufaupee), and a little creek that the Indians called Catsa Bogah, which >mouths just below where the rail road crosses Nufaupba; and on the >Montgomery side of Nufaupba, and on a plantation owned by a Mr. Vaughn, when >I left the country, rests the remains of old James McQueen, a Scotchman, who >died in 1811, aged - from what Col. Hawkins and many others said he was - >128 years. He informed Col. Hawkins that he was born 1683, and came into the >Creek nation in 1716, a deserter from an English vessel anchored at St. >Augustine, East Florida, for striking a naval officer. When I planted those >cedars, I had a wife and three children. I thought, then, to make at the >foot of one of them a resting place. But more than twenty years have >elapsed, and many changes have taken place with me and those that were with >me then, and I care but little now when or where I may be picked up. But >still, I would be glad to know that the cedars were spared; for, none who >knew the hands of those that assisted me in planting them there, could think >of molesting them - unless, there should be one with a marring hand, like >him that destroyed the old lettered beech at the old Federal crossing of the >Persimmon creek, and the old Council Oak that once stood in front of Suckey >Kurnells' or Connells' house, which you knew well. Yes, it was under that >oak, where you and I have heard many a good yarn spun, both by our white as >well as red friends - many of whom have long since gone to that world of >which we read and talk so much, and so much dreaded by many, (if not more,) >and which never can be known to living man. Yes, friend, it was under that >oak - held as sacred by the Indians, and should have been as memorable among >Alabamians, as the old Charter Oak of New England was, among the people of >the North where you and I have aided in placing the brand of Molly Thompson >upon many a black bottle. I rented out the plantation one year, while I >owned it, and forbid the tree being touched. The man renting it complained >so much about it shading his crops, I allowed either three or five dollars >for it, I now forget which, and would now pay $100 to have it living, as it >was when I left the place, were it possible to restore it. You have often >heard of our mutual friend, old Capt. Billy Walker, tell about him and >myself, camping there with Cols. Hawkins, Barnett and McDonald, of the army, >and Gen. John Sevier, one of the heroes of King's Mountain. (Col. Barnett >was the father of Tom. and Nat. Barnett.) On the side of the Indians there >were Billy McIntosh, Big Warrior, Alex. Kurnells, and many others. Kurnells >was the interpreter, wearing that Iroquois coat you have often seen in the >possession of the big woman, his wife. On that occasion, Kurnells exhibited >many Indian curiosities; among them was the buck's horn, resembling a mans' >hand, which you have seen in my possession since. Some years ago I gave the >horn to Bishop Soule, of Nashville. There is not an Indian in the Creek >nation that ever visited Alex. Kurnell's, but would recognize the horn as >quick as you would your horse shoe. Gen. Sevier lived but a few days after >this, and his remains lie in the hill near old Fort Decatur; but not a stone >or board marks the resting place of the patriot, which is the case with >hundreds of others that lived in his day, and like himself, served their >country for their country's good, and not their own. > > This is becoming tedious to you, no doubt, and I must stop. But you can >excuse it, as I live alone and have so little to employ my time about, that >my mind is often led to contemplate things that have passed and would have >been forgotten, but for my lonely situation. It affords me some satisfaction >to think and talk, (when I meet an old friend,) of old times; and after >commencing to write, these old things would appear, and I felt bound to give >them some attention. > > >Yours, > >T. S. W. > > > > > >Hope you found this interesting. There is much more written by Gen. Woodard >at > >http://jrshelby.com/creek/woodward.htm > >Hank Wenzler >[email protected] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:12 PM >Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) > > >> >> My father, Billy Gene Powell (1949) dna, born in California (Parents are >> both from Oklahoma) >> >> Kit #N63296 >> >> >> Billy (Bill) was Hanford Powell's son. >> >> Hanford had two biological children, Jimmie (female) and Billy Powell. He >> adopted four more children... >> His father, Jimmie or James Powell had several children from two different >> wives, those are Willie, Hanford, Jesse, Edna, Cecil, Elise and more.... >> His father Thomas had Billy and Jimmie. >> >> >> P.S. The name Billy, Jimmie, James, and Thomas are repeated continually.. >> and usually their middle names are Gene, Eugene, G. >> And.. my father says, that to throw people off they always named their >> first born boys anything ending in IE or Y. (Helps the confused madness). >> >> My Grandfather said on his tapes that there was a Stuart that came over to >> US from England/Scotland and married a Native, changing his name to >> Powell.. that's were the Powell begins (don't really know why Powell.. ?) >> It's said that his son, had a Native name and the soldiers (native english >> speakers) couldn't pronounce his name and therefore called him Billy >> Powell (Don't know exact root of that).. And from there.. my >> great-grandfathers continued to marry either Natives or Blacks.. (Stuarts >> son was a half breed and not allowed to marry a white person, therefore >> continued to marry within his mother's race).... Billy Powell's son was >> said to be from his second wife, a freed slave. >> >> That is all oral recording from my Grandfather.. and I have yet to >> substantiate it... I got a hold of book about Billy Powell's geneology and >> hopefully will see what I can make of it... :) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jessica >> >> >> ~Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is >> wrong?~ >> >> ****When I give food to the poor they call me a saint. When I ask why the >> poor have no food, they call me a communist. (Don Helder Camara)**** >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:36:36 -0400 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) >>> >>> Jessica, >>> Have you done DNA on your Powell's and if you have where can I find it on >>> the chart? I live in Morgan cty and just a few miles from Lawrence county >>> and >>> would like to know more about your Powell's. Thanks, Frances >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thomas PowellAgeThomas PowellAge in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 >>> Birthplace:Alabama Home in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, >>> AlabamaGender:Male Post >>> Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF >>> C Powell47 >>> Martha J Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas >>> Powell3 James L Powell4.12 in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 >>> Birthplace:Alabama Home >>> in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post >>> Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C >>> Powell47 Martha J >>> Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas Powell3 >>> James >>> L Powell4.12 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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Sylvia, Actually Hank Wenzler who sent that letter to me.. And I'm indebted to him as well.. Thank You very much for posting that.. That's my Billy Powell (Osceola).. I've never read that about him.. Thank You soo incredibly much Hank. Jessica _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008

Bob and ALL, When ordering a kit for another person you have two choices. 1) Have the kit sent to you. 2) Have the kit sent to the person being tested (or their contact). In either case go to https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=E35819 . Most of the information on the first page is for shipping information. Enter the name of the person to be tested. Enter the address where the kit is to be sent. This does not have to be the address of the person being tested, but you might want to use an "in care of" address. The phone number can be yours or that of the person being tested. You can enter more than one e-mail address. If you are paying for the test one of them should be yours. You don't have to enter the e-mail address of the person being tested. Select payment type: credit card or invoice. Select the test desired. The Y-DNA37 kit cost $189. $2 P&H is added to all new kit orders, more for outside of the US. The second page is for billing information. Assuming you are paying for the test enter your name, address and other required information. Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX [email protected] wrote: Jim, I have a potential donor from my grandfathers bothers family. I want to pay for the sample - at least 37 markers, and have it sent to my contact in his family. How do I go about this and how much does it cost? Bob Powell [email protected] last fellow on the page

The government sometimes keeps records - do you suppose that somewhere in some old papers there is a record of the "sweep"? -------------- Original message from "David.E Smith" <[email protected]>: -------------- > ** Reply Requested by 7/23/2008 (Wednesday) ** > This would sure explain a lot about why some of us have hit a wall in thier > histories. David > > DAVID E. SMITH > TDOT/Reg #3/Right of Way/Excess Land > 6601 Centennial Bvld, 2nd Floor > Nashville, TN 37243 > [email protected] > (615) 350-4229 > fax (615) 350-4291/4410 > > > >>> Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels 7/21/2008 10:19 PM >>> > My Grandfather, Hanford Eugene Powell left a tape. A recorded message of an oral tradition. He died in 1991. On the tape my grandfather tells about the Powell's history. One of these is a story regarding Powellstown or Powell's Town, Alabama. There was a surplus of us there and according to him, most of the family settled and stayed in that area. These Powell's had A LOT of problems with government officials.. Ranging from refusing to move to Oklahoma, horse thievery, murder, etc. (Isn't pretty, but true and all of the "retalations" the > family did on surrounding people did not sit well)... Soo, the government did a > "sweep." They came in and killed every man, woman and child that were part of > these Powell's.. (Think tribal lands not "city" and it seems more feasible) and > it was in the late 18th century, early 19th.. A few Powell's got away and fled > (those who weren't there) They ran to either Arkansas, Oklahoma or anywhere in > between, e.g. Texas. These Powell's that fl! > ed, hid in remote mountains and other areas (thus, making it extremely > difficult to find and record).. Thomas Powell (My great-great grandfather, > Thomas Powell was later murdered---don't know exact circumstances as of yet).. > and other members are either murdered, or changed their name and vanished. So, > my great-grandfather hid in Oklahoma. You can find him in census' with a name > ranging from James, Jimmie, Jinnie, Jimmy, Jinny..etc.. > > fascinating.. but really, really hard to negotiate a geneology.. > > sooo, sound familiar? > > Jessica > _________________________________________________________________ > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Ref > resh_messenger_video_072008 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Markers 13 - 37 have been added to kit 122891. Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Jessica, I didn't find your kit number with the Powell's. Did you match someone else. Frances In a message dated 7/22/2008 12:13:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: My father, Billy Gene Powell (1949) dna, born in California (Parents are both from Oklahoma) Kit #N63296 Billy (Bill) was Hanford Powell's son. Hanford had two biological children, Jimmie (female) and Billy Powell. He adopted four more children... His father, Jimmie or James Powell had several children from two different wives, those are Willie, Hanford, Jesse, Edna, Cecil, Elise and more.... His father Thomas had Billy and Jimmie. P.S. The name Billy, Jimmie, James, and Thomas are repeated continually.. and usually their middle names are Gene, Eugene, G. And.. my father says, that to throw people off they always named their first born boys anything ending in IE or Y. (Helps the confused madness). My Grandfather said on his tapes that there was a Stuart that came over to US from England/Scotland and married a Native, changing his name to Powell.. that's were the Powell begins (don't really know why Powell.. ?) It's said that his son, had a Native name and the soldiers (native english speakers) couldn't pronounce his name and therefore called him Billy Powell (Don't know exact root of that).. And from there.. my great-grandfathers continued to marry either Natives or Blacks.. (Stuarts son was a half breed and not allowed to marry a white person, therefore continued to marry within his mother's race).... Billy Powell's son was said to be from his second wife, a freed slave. That is all oral recording from my Grandfather.. and I have yet to substantiate it... I got a hold of book about Billy Powell's geneology and hopefully will see what I can make of it... :) Thanks, Jessica ~Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?~ ****When I give food to the poor they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. (Don Helder Camara)**** > From: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:36:36 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) > > Jessica, > Have you done DNA on your Powell's and if you have where can I find it on > the chart? I live in Morgan cty and just a few miles from Lawrence county and > would like to know more about your Powell's. Thanks, Frances > > > > > > > Thomas PowellAgeThomas PowellAge in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 > Birthplace:Alabama Home in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post > Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C Powell47 > Martha J Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas > Powell3 James L Powell4.12 in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 Birthplace:Alabama Home > in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post > Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C Powell47 Martha J > Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas Powell3 James > L Powell4.12 > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Frances, Jessica's kit is in the fifth group down on the Powell website (DNA) Surname group. Hank Wenzler [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) > Jessica, > I didn't find your kit number with the Powell's. Did you match someone > else. > Frances > > > In a message dated 7/22/2008 12:13:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > My father, Billy Gene Powell (1949) dna, born in California (Parents are > both from Oklahoma) > > Kit #N63296 > > > Billy (Bill) was Hanford Powell's son. > > Hanford had two biological children, Jimmie (female) and Billy Powell. He > adopted four more children... > His father, Jimmie or James Powell had several children from two > different > wives, those are Willie, Hanford, Jesse, Edna, Cecil, Elise and more.... > His father Thomas had Billy and Jimmie. > > > P.S. The name Billy, Jimmie, James, and Thomas are repeated > continually.. > and usually their middle names are Gene, Eugene, G. > And.. my father says, that to throw people off they always named their > first > born boys anything ending in IE or Y. (Helps the confused madness). > > My Grandfather said on his tapes that there was a Stuart that came over > to > US from England/Scotland and married a Native, changing his name to > Powell.. > that's were the Powell begins (don't really know why Powell.. ?) It's > said > that his son, had a Native name and the soldiers (native english > speakers) > couldn't pronounce his name and therefore called him Billy Powell (Don't > know > exact root of that).. And from there.. my great-grandfathers continued to > marry > either Natives or Blacks.. (Stuarts son was a half breed and not allowed > to > marry a white person, therefore continued to marry within his mother's > race).... Billy Powell's son was said to be from his second wife, a freed > slave. > > That is all oral recording from my Grandfather.. and I have yet to > substantiate it... I got a hold of book about Billy Powell's geneology > and hopefully > will see what I can make of it... :) > > Thanks, > > Jessica > > > ~Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is > wrong?~ > > ****When I give food to the poor they call me a saint. When I ask why > the > poor have no food, they call me a communist. (Don Helder Camara)**** > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:36:36 -0400 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) >> >> Jessica, >> Have you done DNA on your Powell's and if you have where can I find it >> on >> the chart? I live in Morgan cty and just a few miles from Lawrence >> county > and >> would like to know more about your Powell's. Thanks, Frances >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thomas PowellAgeThomas PowellAge in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 >> Birthplace:Alabama Home in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, > AlabamaGender:Male Post >> Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF >> C > Powell47 >> Martha J Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas >> Powell3 James L Powell4.12 in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 > Birthplace:Alabama Home >> in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post >> Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF >> C > Powell47 Martha J >> Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas Powell3 > James >> L Powell4.12 >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for >> FanHouse Fantasy Football today. >> (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! > http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jessica, I have been watching the messages going back and forth between you and others about different Powell families. Thought you might be interested in some history of Alabama and the Indian tribes that inhabited the area around the beginning of the 19th century. You spoke of your family intermarrying with the Indians and other natives of the area. The quote that you will see below is part of a collection of letters written by Gen. Thomas S. Woodard. He knew the Indian tribes of Alabama, Georgia and western Florida better than any man or account I have read. Read down into this letter and you will see the Powell name and how it applies.......maybe to your family, who knows. Letter from Gen. Thomas S. Woodard: WHEELING, WINN PARISH, LA., December 9, 1857. E. HANRICK, Esq.: My Old Friend: - Your letter came to hand safe, after taking its time, as I have, in going through the world, quite leisurely. You will find five dollars enclosed: pay yourself, and hand the other two and a half to the editor of the Mail: say to him, that after he has worked that out, and he learns that I have not worked out, he may continue to send his paper. I see my letter to you, of May last, in the Mail. The editor speaks in very flattering terms of my capability in giving sketches and making them accurate and interesting. I would be proud that I could do so, and prove to his readers that he was not mistaken. It is true, I have known Alabama a great while, and many of its earliest settlers - particularly Indians and Indian countrymen. And I would most willingly, if I thought any facts that have come within my knowledge, or circumstances related to me by others in whom I could place the most implicit reliance, would be interesting to the readers of the Mail, give them. But as I write no better than in my younger days, but much worse; and as anything I might write would to most persons be of little interest, I must now abandon it. Besides, you know my capacity for embellishment (the only thing that suits too many readers,) is not such as would render my sketches very interesting to many. I have no doubt but that, if I could be with you, and many more old acquaintances that I left in Alabama, (and hope they still live,) and could get around a lightwood fire, I could interest you - or, at least, spin over old times and bring many things to your recollection that you have forgotten. (I do not allude to old store accounts. Though you have lost many, I never heard of your forgetting one.) I often wish myself back in Alabama, and have as often regretted leaving Tuskegee. I was the founder of Tuskegee. I selected the place for the county site, or place for the court house, in 1833. I built the first house on that ridge, though James Dent built the first house on the court house square, after the lots were laid off. The day I made the selection, there was a great ball-play with the Tusgegees, Chunnanugges, Chehaws and Tallesees. A Col. Deas, a South Carolinian, was with me. Ned, those were good days, were they not? I can never recall them, nor many other things that were very cheering to me then. I wonder if my five cedar trees, that I planted at the McGarr place when I owned it, are living yet? Ned, I, in company with my family, old Aunt Betsy Kurnells, (or Connells,) Tuskeneha, and old John McQueen, dug up those cedars, when they were very small, from under a large cedar that shaded the birth-place of Ussa Yoholo, or, Black Drink, who, after the murder of General Thompson, in Florida, was known to the world as Oceola. This man was the great grand-son of James McQueen. You know his father - the little Englishman, Powell. His mother was Polly Copinger. The rail road from Montgomery to West Point runs within five feet, it not over the place, where the cabin stood in which Billy Powell, or Ussa Yoholo, was born. The old cedar was destroyed by Gen. McIver's negroes, when grading the road. It was in an old field, between the Nufaupba (what is now called Ufaupee), and a little creek that the Indians called Catsa Bogah, which mouths just below where the rail road crosses Nufaupba; and on the Montgomery side of Nufaupba, and on a plantation owned by a Mr. Vaughn, when I left the country, rests the remains of old James McQueen, a Scotchman, who died in 1811, aged - from what Col. Hawkins and many others said he was - 128 years. He informed Col. Hawkins that he was born 1683, and came into the Creek nation in 1716, a deserter from an English vessel anchored at St. Augustine, East Florida, for striking a naval officer. When I planted those cedars, I had a wife and three children. I thought, then, to make at the foot of one of them a resting place. But more than twenty years have elapsed, and many changes have taken place with me and those that were with me then, and I care but little now when or where I may be picked up. But still, I would be glad to know that the cedars were spared; for, none who knew the hands of those that assisted me in planting them there, could think of molesting them - unless, there should be one with a marring hand, like him that destroyed the old lettered beech at the old Federal crossing of the Persimmon creek, and the old Council Oak that once stood in front of Suckey Kurnells' or Connells' house, which you knew well. Yes, it was under that oak, where you and I have heard many a good yarn spun, both by our white as well as red friends - many of whom have long since gone to that world of which we read and talk so much, and so much dreaded by many, (if not more,) and which never can be known to living man. Yes, friend, it was under that oak - held as sacred by the Indians, and should have been as memorable among Alabamians, as the old Charter Oak of New England was, among the people of the North where you and I have aided in placing the brand of Molly Thompson upon many a black bottle. I rented out the plantation one year, while I owned it, and forbid the tree being touched. The man renting it complained so much about it shading his crops, I allowed either three or five dollars for it, I now forget which, and would now pay $100 to have it living, as it was when I left the place, were it possible to restore it. You have often heard of our mutual friend, old Capt. Billy Walker, tell about him and myself, camping there with Cols. Hawkins, Barnett and McDonald, of the army, and Gen. John Sevier, one of the heroes of King's Mountain. (Col. Barnett was the father of Tom. and Nat. Barnett.) On the side of the Indians there were Billy McIntosh, Big Warrior, Alex. Kurnells, and many others. Kurnells was the interpreter, wearing that Iroquois coat you have often seen in the possession of the big woman, his wife. On that occasion, Kurnells exhibited many Indian curiosities; among them was the buck's horn, resembling a mans' hand, which you have seen in my possession since. Some years ago I gave the horn to Bishop Soule, of Nashville. There is not an Indian in the Creek nation that ever visited Alex. Kurnell's, but would recognize the horn as quick as you would your horse shoe. Gen. Sevier lived but a few days after this, and his remains lie in the hill near old Fort Decatur; but not a stone or board marks the resting place of the patriot, which is the case with hundreds of others that lived in his day, and like himself, served their country for their country's good, and not their own. This is becoming tedious to you, no doubt, and I must stop. But you can excuse it, as I live alone and have so little to employ my time about, that my mind is often led to contemplate things that have passed and would have been forgotten, but for my lonely situation. It affords me some satisfaction to think and talk, (when I meet an old friend,) of old times; and after commencing to write, these old things would appear, and I felt bound to give them some attention. Yours, T. S. W. Hope you found this interesting. There is much more written by Gen. Woodard at http://jrshelby.com/creek/woodward.htm Hank Wenzler [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) > > My father, Billy Gene Powell (1949) dna, born in California (Parents are > both from Oklahoma) > > Kit #N63296 > > > Billy (Bill) was Hanford Powell's son. > > Hanford had two biological children, Jimmie (female) and Billy Powell. He > adopted four more children... > His father, Jimmie or James Powell had several children from two different > wives, those are Willie, Hanford, Jesse, Edna, Cecil, Elise and more.... > His father Thomas had Billy and Jimmie. > > > P.S. The name Billy, Jimmie, James, and Thomas are repeated continually.. > and usually their middle names are Gene, Eugene, G. > And.. my father says, that to throw people off they always named their > first born boys anything ending in IE or Y. (Helps the confused madness). > > My Grandfather said on his tapes that there was a Stuart that came over to > US from England/Scotland and married a Native, changing his name to > Powell.. that's were the Powell begins (don't really know why Powell.. ?) > It's said that his son, had a Native name and the soldiers (native english > speakers) couldn't pronounce his name and therefore called him Billy > Powell (Don't know exact root of that).. And from there.. my > great-grandfathers continued to marry either Natives or Blacks.. (Stuarts > son was a half breed and not allowed to marry a white person, therefore > continued to marry within his mother's race).... Billy Powell's son was > said to be from his second wife, a freed slave. > > That is all oral recording from my Grandfather.. and I have yet to > substantiate it... I got a hold of book about Billy Powell's geneology and > hopefully will see what I can make of it... :) > > Thanks, > > Jessica > > > ~Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is > wrong?~ > > ****When I give food to the poor they call me a saint. When I ask why the > poor have no food, they call me a communist. (Don Helder Camara)**** > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:36:36 -0400 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) >> >> Jessica, >> Have you done DNA on your Powell's and if you have where can I find it on >> the chart? I live in Morgan cty and just a few miles from Lawrence county >> and >> would like to know more about your Powell's. Thanks, Frances >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thomas PowellAgeThomas PowellAge in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 >> Birthplace:Alabama Home in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, >> AlabamaGender:Male Post >> Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF >> C Powell47 >> Martha J Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas >> Powell3 James L Powell4.12 in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 >> Birthplace:Alabama Home >> in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post >> Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C >> Powell47 Martha J >> Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas Powell3 >> James >> L Powell4.12 >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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Markers 38 - 67 have been added to kit 49408. Several people ordered upgrades recently, some before and many during the FTDNA special. Any time you order additional standard markers FTDNA resets your Y-Search which allows you to automatically load your new results to Y-Search. Go to your "myFTDNA" and click on the "Y-DNA Matches" link. Just above the list of your matches there is a "Click here to upload to Ysearch.org" link. Click on it and follow the directions. Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

I'm working on the green group, which is all haplotype I1.  Your group doesn't seem to have it's own color for some reason, but it might not be a bad idea for you or someone else in your group to put all the data in a spreadsheet and sort it a few different ways, and maybe gather the information on the distance between donors and ancestors.   Chris --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 7:12 PM My father, Billy Gene Powell (1949) dna, born in California (Parents are both from Oklahoma) Kit #N63296 Billy (Bill) was Hanford Powell's son. Hanford had two biological children, Jimmie (female) and Billy Powell. He adopted four more children... His father, Jimmie or James Powell had several children from two different wives, those are Willie, Hanford, Jesse, Edna, Cecil, Elise and more.... His father Thomas had Billy and Jimmie. P.S. The name Billy, Jimmie, James, and Thomas are repeated continually.. and usually their middle names are Gene, Eugene, G. And.. my father says, that to throw people off they always named their first born boys anything ending in IE or Y. (Helps the confused madness). My Grandfather said on his tapes that there was a Stuart that came over to US from England/Scotland and married a Native, changing his name to Powell.. that's were the Powell begins (don't really know why Powell.. ?) It's said that his son, had a Native name and the soldiers (native english speakers) couldn't pronounce his name and therefore called him Billy Powell (Don't know exact root of that).. And from there.. my great-grandfathers continued to marry either Natives or Blacks.. (Stuarts son was a half breed and not allowed to marry a white person, therefore continued to marry within his mother's race).... Billy Powell's son was said to be from his second wife, a freed slave. That is all oral recording from my Grandfather.. and I have yet to substantiate it... I got a hold of book about Billy Powell's geneology and hopefully will see what I can make of it... :) Thanks, Jessica ~Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?~ ****When I give food to the poor they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. (Don Helder Camara)**** > From: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:36:36 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Jessica ( Thomas Powell) > > Jessica, > Have you done DNA on your Powell's and if you have where can I find it on > the chart? I live in Morgan cty and just a few miles from Lawrence county and > would like to know more about your Powell's. Thanks, Frances > > > > > > > Thomas PowellAgeThomas PowellAge in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 > Birthplace:Alabama Home in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post > Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C Powell47 > Martha J Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas > Powell3 James L Powell4.12 in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 Birthplace:Alabama Home > in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post > Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C Powell47 Martha J > Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas Powell3 James > L Powell4.12 > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dickey, I think I was in contact with you a while back about the connection between your Powell's and mine. Dewel Lott whose mother was connected to the (she was a Powell) Powell's from Blount has done genealogy for many years and has written several books on his different surnames said, my Powell's and your's (if your's are the Blount county Powell's are cousin's. Dewel started a book on the Powell's and got sick and hasn't completed it. I talked to his wife recently and she is trying to finish the book with his help. Dewel is in his 80's and he lived in that area most of his life and my gr. gr. uncle Tilmon Powell was a Methodist preacher in that area where he was raise too. Dewel's mother always invited him to eat with them when Tilmon preached at their church. She said they were first cousin's. I am sure she would have known who her cousin's were.. Our DNA matches some Hooper's but our written genealogy hasn't confirmed anything other than our Powell lineage for several generations. Frances In a message dated 7/22/2008 9:34:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: my generations are: James Powell b.1787 James Powell, Jr. b. 1829 Francis Marion Powell b. 1857 John B.Little Powell b. 1896 Loyd Lee Powell b. 1920 Dickey L. Powell b. 1941 kit#29585 So I am 5 generations removed from James Powell Dickey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Powell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Powell green group donors The more I look at the DNA results the more I think it's important to know how many generations removed the donors are from the time frame of the earliest known ancestor of each donor. Mine is: Allen Powell b.1822 Jesse Nicholson Powell b. 1850 Jesse James Powell b. 1898 Clifford Vernon Powell b. 1943 Christopher Powell b. 1971 - kit #27450 So I am four generations removed from Allen Powell Would you folks in the green group please share the number of generations from earliest known ancestor to donor with me? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)