You mentioned Ambrose Powell. I don't have any genealogy on Ambrose Powell, and you probably know his connection with Powell Valley, Virginia, but this is what I found. Ambrose Powell was a member of Dr. Thomas Walker's expedition that went through Powell Valley. On April 12, 1750 Ambrose cut his name on a tree on the bank of a river located ten miles from Cumberland Gap. In 1770 the tree was found by a party of 15 to 20 Virginians on their way to Kentucky on a hunting expedition. They gave it the name of Powell's river, and the other names came from that. HAROLD POWELL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 8:29 PM To: POWELL-DNA-L; POWELL Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Three Centuries of Ballingers in America I made it to the SFA Library today.  I didn't see any mention of Ambrose or William Powell.  I only checked the Powell listings in the index.  In the information below dates are in d-m-y format, and = means married.   Page 70 - Richard Ballinger, b c 1800 d 1858; = Mary Ann, d/o Robert & Rebecca (Powell) Haines.   Page 126 - Rosa May Lovelace, b 9-2-1883 d 20-11-1968 = (1) in 1909 to Rev. James M. Powell; (2) in 1939 to R. L. Chrisman; (3) B. N. Chrisman   Page 156 - Robert Oakford Nunn, Jr., b 27-7-1912; = 20-12-1941 Lura Powell; lived in Manistee, Mich.   Page 206 - Wilfred Lovelace Bowels b 21-4-1908 in Fabin's Twp, Marion Co., Mo.; = 20-8-1929 in Kansas City, Kans. by Rev. James Powell, to Eva Margaret Gillespie, b 2-11-1905 near La Prairie, in Adams Co., Ill.   Page 236 - (Pampa, Tex. area) - Belinda Jill Richardson b. 3-1-1947; = Dean Powell.   Page 399 - Thomas Powell is a witness to the will of Joseph Ballinger of Amherst Co., Vir.  Will dated 3 Feb. 1802.   Page 414 13 Jan. 1756 - Francis Ballinger & Sarah Ballinger named as wittnesses to the will of Elias Powell.      Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I made it to the SFA Library today.  I didn't see any mention of Ambrose or William Powell.  I only checked the Powell listings in the index.  In the information below dates are in d-m-y format, and = means married.   Page 70 - Richard Ballinger, b c 1800 d 1858; = Mary Ann, d/o Robert & Rebecca (Powell) Haines.   Page 126 - Rosa May Lovelace, b 9-2-1883 d 20-11-1968 = (1) in 1909 to Rev. James M. Powell; (2) in 1939 to R. L. Chrisman; (3) B. N. Chrisman   Page 156 - Robert Oakford Nunn, Jr., b 27-7-1912; = 20-12-1941 Lura Powell; lived in Manistee, Mich.   Page 206 - Wilfred Lovelace Bowels b 21-4-1908 in Fabin's Twp, Marion Co., Mo.; = 20-8-1929 in Kansas City, Kans. by Rev. James Powell, to Eva Margaret Gillespie, b 2-11-1905 near La Prairie, in Adams Co., Ill.   Page 236 - (Pampa, Tex. area) - Belinda Jill Richardson b. 3-1-1947; = Dean Powell.   Page 399 - Thomas Powell is a witness to the will of Joseph Ballinger of Amherst Co., Vir.  Will dated 3 Feb. 1802.   Page 414 13 Jan. 1756 - Francis Ballinger & Sarah Ballinger named as wittnesses to the will of Elias Powell.      Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

I would appreciate it if the Kit #127468 PA-5 descendant would contact me off-list at [email protected] Jerry Powell NC-16 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:43 AM To: POWELL-DNA-L Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website Markers 26 - 37 have been added to kit 127468.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm   Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Markers 26 - 37 have been added to kit 127468.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm   Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

FYI Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm   Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Sun, 9/14/08, Bennett Greenspan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bennett Greenspan <[email protected]> Subject: Family Tree DNA More on Hurricane IKE To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 11:58 PM Dear Customers,   As a follow-up to our letter informing you of the level of preparedness Family Tree DNA established regarding the coming of Hurricane Ike to Houston, we are coming to you now to update you on our status post-Ike.   a) As you may know, all of our standard Y-DNA and mtDNA tests are processed at the lab in Arizona, and therefore, this processing has not been affected at all.   b) Also, as we advised previously, we have taken appropriate measures to safeguard and protect the data and our servers and therefore all computer systems are in place and functioning normally.  You may have noticed that our web sites have been up, available, and are running normally as they were before and during the storm.   c) The building where Family Tree DNA's offices and Houston laboratory are located is without power, like most of Houston office buildings, and sustained damage, like so many other Houston office buildings.  This means that the building will be closed for the next few days until it is ready for tenants to return.  Despite this situation, several members of our staff have worked over the weekend to transfer equipment to other locations so that our normal office operations can resume on Monday, or at the latest on Tuesday, from an alternate location.  All postal mail will be picked up normally at our local post office, so that kits can be checked-in and processed normally.   d) The coming days will allow us to have a better assessment of when our Houston lab will resume normal operations, at which point we will be back to you again with additional information about any delays in delivering results for the advanced tests that our lab processes in Houston. (Advanced panels, FGS and Deep Clade Y SNP's)   Please forgive us if in the next few days we don't meet our standard level of customer service as to e-mails and phone calls.  We will be back to normal as soon as possible.  We appreciate your continued support .   E-mail us anytime!   Bennett Greenspan Max Blankfeld President Vice-President, Operations and Marketing                                           http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" 713-868-1438

Was FTDNA affected by the storm? Jerry Powell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barrett" <[email protected]> To: "BARRETT-DNA-L" <[email protected]>; "POWELL-DNA-L" <[email protected]>; "Reuben Barrett List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:37 AM Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Jim Barrett Family & Ike Just a quick note to let everyone know we are okay. We lost power about noon Saturday and phone service about noon on Sunday. I went to Fort Worth yesterday morning to pick up a generator I bought last week. Jan called me about noon to let me know our power was back on. Our phone service was restored during the night We had no damage to the house. We lost one small tree that was already in bad shape. We lost about half a dozen limbs out of two big pine trees and our fall pepper and tomato pants were destroyed. A VERY small loss compared to many. A large tree did fall on my in-laws grave but didn't hurt the marker but did beat up the fence behind it. We cleaned most of it up Sunday afternoon. I'll work through my e-mail during the next few days. Thanks to all for your good wishes and prayers. I hope everyone else did as well but I sure those closer to the coast were hit much harder. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a quick note to let everyone know we are okay.  We lost power about noon Saturday and phone service about noon on Sunday.   I went to Fort Worth yesterday morning to pick up a generator I bought last week.  Jan called me about noon to let me know our power was back on.  Our phone service was restored during the night   We had no damage to the house. We lost one small tree that was already in bad shape.  We lost about half a dozen limbs out of two big pine trees and our fall pepper and tomato pants were destroyed.  A VERY small loss compared to many.   A large tree did fall on my in-laws grave but didn't hurt the marker but did beat up the fence behind it.  We cleaned most of it up Sunday afternoon.   I'll work through my e-mail during the next few days.   Thanks to all for your good wishes and prayers.  I hope everyone else did as well but I sure those closer to the coast were hit much harder. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Descendants of Unknown Powell Generation No. 1 1. Unknown1 Powell Children of Unknown Powell are: + 2 i. Alexander G.2 Powell, born Abt. 1824 in NC; died in Monroe Co., Miss. ?. 3 ii. William Powell. + 4 iii. Charles Powell, born 1820 in NC; died Sep 29, 1878 in Miller Co., Ark.. Generation No. 2 2. Alexander G.2 Powell (Unknown1) was born Abt. 1824 in NC, and died in Monroe Co., Miss. ?. He married Sarah Thrailkill May 02, 1847 in Monroe Co., Mississippi, daughter of Morgan Thrailkill and Sarah Rodman. She was born Nov 28, 1829 in S.C., and died 1866 in Monroe Co., Mississippi. Notes for Alexander G. Powell: Found in 1870 Census, Smithville P.O. Monroe Co., Miss. He was listed in the 1850 census as 26 years old and being a Miller by trade. 1850 census A.G. Powell 26 m Sarah Powell 19 f In 1850, he was living on the east side of the Tombigbee River, In Aberdeen, Miss. More About Alexander Powell and Sarah Thrailkill: Marriage: May 02, 1847, Monroe Co., Mississippi Children of Alexander Powell and Sarah Thrailkill are: 5 i. Martha D.3 Powell, born 1849 in Miss.. Notes for Martha D. Powell: Shows up on the 1850 and 1860 census of Monroe Co., Miss. 6 ii. William Powell, born 1852 in Mississippi. Notes for William Powell: Shows up on the 1860 census of Monroe Co., Miss. Shows up on the 1880 census for Monroe Co., Miss. as a farmer. and single living with his sister Almedia Powell. 7 iii. Charles Powell, born 1854 in Mississippi. Notes for Charles Powell: Shows up on the 1860 census of Monroe Co., Miss. 8 iv. Sarah Powell, born 1855 in Mississippi. Notes for Sarah Powell: Shows up on the 1860 census for Monroe Co., Miss. 9 v. Margaret Almedia Powell, born Nov 18, 1857 in Ala.; died May 10, 1940. She married William Jefferson Stratton Aug 10, 1886 in Monroe Co., Miss.; born Jun 16, 1847 in Alabama; died Apr 26, 1912 in Clay Co. Mississippi. Notes for Margaret Almedia Powell: Her grave stones says she was born 1856,but their family bible says 1857. She shows up as Almedia Powell on the 1860 census for Monroe Co., Miss. The 1860 census show her born in Miss. More About Margaret Almedia Powell: Burial: Greenwood Cem., West Point, Clay Co. Mississippi Notes for William Jefferson Stratton: Enlisted Sept. 01,1863 and present at Andersonville. Admitted to Ocmulgee Hospital in Macon, Georgie on July 07, 1864 due to Rubeola (small pox). Paroled on May 19, 1865 in Columbus, Mississippi with residence listed as Fayette Co. His widow Almeta Stratton applied for pension in Clay County, Mississippi in 1921. More About William Jefferson Stratton: Burial: Greenwood Cem., West Point, Clay Co. Mississippi More About William Stratton and Margaret Powell: Marriage: Aug 10, 1886, Monroe Co., Miss. 4. Charles2 Powell (Unknown1) was born 1820 in NC, and died Sep 29, 1878 in Miller Co., Ark.. He married (1) Hannah Thrailkill Jan 23, 1846 in Monroe Co., Miss., daughter of Morgan Thrailkill and Sarah Rodman. She was born Abt. 1827 in SC. He married (2) Sarah Ann Gilbert 1873. She died 1879. Notes for Charles Powell: He was a Plantation Overseer. He is also listed as Charles L. Powell. More About Charles Powell and Hannah Thrailkill: Marriage: Jan 23, 1846, Monroe Co., Miss. More About Charles Powell and Sarah Gilbert: Marriage: 1873 Children of Charles Powell and Hannah Thrailkill are: 10 i. Charles L.3 Powell. He married Paralee Boyd Jan 01, 1866 in Lamar Co., Texas. More About Charles Powell and Paralee Boyd: Marriage: Jan 01, 1866, Lamar Co., Texas 11 ii. Sarah Powell, born Abt. 1846 in Monroe Co. Miss.. She married P. S. Dockrey Feb 16, 1865. More About P. Dockrey and Sarah Powell: Marriage: Feb 16, 1865 12 iii. Frank Powell, born Abt. 1848 in Monroe Co. Miss.. 13 iv. Calvin Preston Powell, born Jan 22, 1852 in West Monroe Co. Miss.; died Jul 04, 1929 in Miller Co., Ark.. He married (1) Mary J. Vanderbilt Feb 15, 1879 in Miller Co., Ark.; died Mar 12, 1880 in Miller Co., Ark.. He married (2) Mary Elizabeth Welch Sep 22, 1880 in Miller Co., Ark.; born Oct 15, 1862 in Ark.; died Dec 21, 1931 in Miller Co., Ark.. More About Mary J. Vanderbilt: Burial: Shiloh Cem., Miller Co., Ark More About Calvin Powell and Mary Vanderbilt: Marriage: Feb 15, 1879, Miller Co., Ark. More About Calvin Powell and Mary Welch: Marriage: Sep 22, 1880, Miller Co., Ark. 14 v. Lucy Powell, born Abt. 1855 in Monroe Co. Miss.. 15 vi. Matilda Powell, born Abt. 1857 in Monroe Co. Miss.; died Aug 01, 1933 in Lamar Co., Texas. She married (1) W. H. Pitts. She married (2) G. J. Pridemoore. Does anyone belong to this family. Please let contact me at India J. Wolf [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) or [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

If I had known about you then we would have stopped in last year on our way back from Yellowstone.  Some genious I am------I didn't know why they called it "Yellowstone" until some months later---duh!!  hehehehe  David  (My stepdaughter is still in love with a waiter over at the Cracker Barrell there. ) --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Peggy Powell <[email protected]> wrote: From: Peggy Powell <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website To: [email protected] Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 8:48 PM My thoughts and prayers are with all of you in the path of the Hurricane, rain, tornados, etc. and the future path of Hurricane Hanna. God be with you. We're safe up here in Sioux City, Iowa. Thanks, Peggy Powell [email protected] Hornick IA Treasurer, Martha Washington Chapter DAR Senior Registrar, Iowa Society C.A.R. Senior Advisor, Sgt Charles Floyd Society C.A.R. Genealogist Researcher since June 1975 Charter Member of WCGS, Member, Legion Auxiliary since 1990 Member, DAR since 1986 Genealogical Researcher for Northwest Iowa, Northeast Nebraska Grange Township Clerk grandmother of 10 8th great granddaughter, Daniel Boone family names researching Bahr, Bartz, Campbell, Craig, Crockford, Dimond, Elam, Haessel, Kearnes, Kinnamon, Lee, Lechelt, Leedom, Mayberry, McGlothlen, Peasley, Powell, Schweissberger, Sweisberger, Thiel, Thorn, Van Bibber, Young England, Ireland, Scotland, Prussia/Germany Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barrett" <[email protected]> To: "POWELL-DNA-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website Markers 26 - 37 have been added to kit 126021. I have added a link to Descendant tree for Charles Powell - Kit 129582 to the bottom of the website. Values for the kit have not been added yet. FYI - I live in Shelby Co., TX. If you follow the state line south from Texarkana Shelby Co. is the county where the state line stops being a straight line. We are in the path of Gustav. We should start getting wind and rain in a few hours. We live in the country and will probably lose our power. If we do it may be out for a few days. We are on high ground so we don't have to worry about flooding. If we lose power I'll lose my Internet connection also. I shall return! Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Markers 48 - 60 have been added to kit 22139.   Thanks Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Markersa 38 - 67 have been added to kits 76764 and 126021.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Kit 91869 with markers 1 - 37 and kit 3213 with markers 1 - 67 have been added. Kit 3213 is from the Sizemore surname and has been accepted into our project because of his close match with some of our other members. Both of the new kits are in Haplogroup T. Thanks Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX - [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Kit 127468, with markers 1 - 12, has been added.  More markers to come. Markers 38 - 67 have been added to kit 91029. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

I want to thank everyone for their prayers and good wishes.  It seem we are out of the woods.    The weather people were predicting 10 to 20 inches of rain and strong winds for our area.  In the last 24 hours we got almost 1 inch of rain.  We did have some strong winds, but nothing like I expected.  A few broken limbs but no trees down.  We never did lose our power.   I hope all of our friends were as lucky. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm   Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

My thoughts and prayers are with all of you in the path of the Hurricane, rain, tornados, etc. and the future path of Hurricane Hanna. God be with you. We're safe up here in Sioux City, Iowa. Thanks, Peggy Powell [email protected] Hornick IA Treasurer, Martha Washington Chapter DAR Senior Registrar, Iowa Society C.A.R. Senior Advisor, Sgt Charles Floyd Society C.A.R. Genealogist Researcher since June 1975 Charter Member of WCGS, Member, Legion Auxiliary since 1990 Member, DAR since 1986 Genealogical Researcher for Northwest Iowa, Northeast Nebraska Grange Township Clerk grandmother of 10 8th great granddaughter, Daniel Boone family names researching Bahr, Bartz, Campbell, Craig, Crockford, Dimond, Elam, Haessel, Kearnes, Kinnamon, Lee, Lechelt, Leedom, Mayberry, McGlothlen, Peasley, Powell, Schweissberger, Sweisberger, Thiel, Thorn, Van Bibber, Young England, Ireland, Scotland, Prussia/Germany Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barrett" <[email protected]> To: "POWELL-DNA-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website Markers 26 - 37 have been added to kit 126021. I have added a link to Descendant tree for Charles Powell - Kit 129582 to the bottom of the website. Values for the kit have not been added yet. FYI - I live in Shelby Co., TX. If you follow the state line south from Texarkana Shelby Co. is the county where the state line stops being a straight line. We are in the path of Gustav. We should start getting wind and rain in a few hours. We live in the country and will probably lose our power. If we do it may be out for a few days. We are on high ground so we don't have to worry about flooding. If we lose power I'll lose my Internet connection also. I shall return! Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Markers 26 - 37 have been added to kit 126021.   I have added a link to Descendant tree for Charles Powell - Kit 129582 to the bottom of the website.  Values for the kit have not been added yet.   FYI - I live in Shelby Co., TX.  If you follow the state line south from Texarkana Shelby Co. is the county where the state line stops being a straight line.  We are in the path of Gustav.  We should start getting wind and rain in a few hours.  We live in the country and will probably lose our power.  If we do it may be out for a few days.  We are on high ground so we don't have to worry about flooding.  If we lose power I'll lose my Internet connection also.  I shall return! Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm   Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Markers 38 - 67 have been added to kit 107720.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

This sale applies to ALL of the surname projects at FTDNA not just ours.  To check for other projects go to http://www.familytreedna.com/ and enter the surname into the search box on the right hand side of the page.  Click on the "Submit" button.  If you need help please let me know.   Due to popular demand Family Tree DNA is extending its Sizzling Summer Sale until September 30th!   Product Promotion Original  Sale  Y-DNA12 Free mtDNA $189 $99 Y-DNA25 Free mtDNA $238 $148 Y-DNA37 Reduced $189 $119 Y-DNA37+mtDNA Reduced $339 $189 Y-DNA67 Reduced $269 $218 Y-DNA67+mtDNAplus Reduced $409 $288 mtDNAplus Reduced $189 $149   IMPORTANT: This promotion requires that payment is either made by credit card or received by the conclusion of the sale on September 30th, 2008.   For the Barrett Surname project use the following link to place your order: https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=Y63652    For the Powell Surname project use the following link to place your order: https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=E35819 Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm   Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Depending on your Haplotype FTDNA will predict your Haplogroup.  Once that has been done you will be offered the opportunity to take SNP tests.  They use their prediction to tell them where to start testing.  Depending on the number of levels below your predicted Haplogroup they'll offer a "Backbone" test or a "Deep Clade" test.   If you look at http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR08.html you'll see how complex the R1b portion of the Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree 2008 is.   Now to answer the question: kit 36906 had a Backbone SNP test and kits 8586 and 84479 had Deep Clade SNP test.  Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm   Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Wed, 8/27/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 6:24 PM What difference is there between Kit 36906 with a haplogroup of R1b1 and Kits 84479 and 8586 with haplogroup of R1b1b2 ? All three are in same gold group and all have been snip tested. Barbara

What difference is there between Kit 36906 with a haplogroup of R1b1 and Kits 84479 and 8586 with haplogroup of R1b1b2 ? All three are in same gold group and all have been snip tested. Barbara ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)