I did note that Josiah Murphy was living next door to Rachell. I have placed messages on different list-serves, hoping that a descendant of the Lowndes county Powells would emerge. Interestingly, I have a potential contact point with a descendant of a Sam Powell who was also living in Lowndes county. Another contemporaneous Powell was Allen Powell (VA 1791), died in Hayneville, AL in 1873, with several children (and 22 slaves). TKS Ron #93410 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of diane branam Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Help! Powells in Lowndes County Alabama Hi Ron,I was looking on Ancestry and saw the same thing you did. Do you know if Dickey ever replyed to your first email regarding Rachel Powell, with Josiah Murphy living next door?This looks to me like a family we should be looking for a DNA donor for if it isn't already in the project. TTYL~Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone in our group have any connections with the Powells of Lowndes county Alabama. (1800-1860)? Thank you, Ron Powell #93410

Hi Ron,I was looking on Ancestry and saw the same thing you did. Do you know if Dickey ever replyed to your first email regarding Rachel Powell, with Josiah Murphy living next door?This looks to me like a family we should be looking for a DNA donor for if it isn't already in the project. TTYL~Diane

I am in the gold group kit # 95503. Does anyone think it would be helpful to know where gold group members live- not address but town-although I have no problem sharing my address which is 12905 SW 116 Court, Miami, Florida.Phone # 305-232-0442?I was suprised to gather from a?few e-mails about our site that indicate a number of members live in Florida.We could be?in the same area and not know it. I have my direct line traced back to 1790 Columbia County, Ga?and of course we all seem to share the Virginia ancestors. My problem is connecting the Virginia Powells with the ones in 1790 Georgia. I believe there is a connection with Mecklenburg, NC based on a land sale in 1800 Georgia; however, I have been unable to find what the connection is. My Powells migrated from Columbia County to Morgan County to Houston County, Ga where I grew up. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Powell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 9:19 pm Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our website Nell, Which kit are you in the gold group? Robert Powell Nell Thomason wrote: > I am in the gold group in our project website. If anyone is interested in > comparing information, please contact me. > Nell Powell Thomason > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kit 136640 has been added with markers 1 - 12.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

** Reply Requested by 12/11/2008 (Thursday) ** I'm David with Kit # 31545 from Lebanon. David E.Smith TDOT/Reg #3/Right of Way/Excess Land 6601 Centennial Bvld, 2nd Floor Nashville, TN 37243 [email protected] (615) 350-4229 fax (615) 350-4291/4410 >>> On 12/9/2008 at 7:46 PM, in message <[email protected]>, "Nell Thomason" <[email protected]> wrote: I am in the gold group in our project website. If anyone is interested in comparing information, please contact me. Nell Powell Thomason ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am in the Gold Group and will share information with anyone in this group if it will help unlock our mystery. Sam Powell #115503 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Powell Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our website Nell, Which kit are you in the gold group? Robert Powell Nell Thomason wrote: > I am in the gold group in our project website. If anyone is interested in > comparing information, please contact me. > Nell Powell Thomason > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nell, Which kit are you in the gold group? Robert Powell Nell Thomason wrote: > I am in the gold group in our project website. If anyone is interested in > comparing information, please contact me. > Nell Powell Thomason > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am in the gold group in our project website. If anyone is interested in comparing information, please contact me. Nell Powell Thomason

Markers 13 - 25 have been added to kit 132854.  Markers 26 - 37 had already been added.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Diane,You might want to read ZEKE AND NED by Larry Mcmurtry and Diana Ossana .It covers the Indians after the Trail of Tears.Might explain the reason somweone shot Thomas Powell in Arkansas.It is about Zeke Procter and Ned Christie who actually lived.The feds.hired outlaws to serve as marshalls and they treated Indians poorly.It is worth a read. sylvia jones ferriter a powell by dna.also a descendant on maternal side of father was Billy McIntosh chief of creeks. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:12 PM, [email protected] wrote: > ---- diane branam <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Jessica,I had a few minutes and because of the family stories I >> heard heard growing up and comparing them to what I found I thougt I >> would see if I could be of help.I think your Powell line is like my >> Powell line. It is not the Powell who was the Native American, but >> who they married.When we did our Powell DNA the Native American >> didn't show up. But it shows in the faces of descendants, so for our >> line it mustbe in the line of one of the wives. On Ancestry all of >> the records for Hanford and his father JimmyL. Powell born about 1881 >> in AL then migrates to OK before Hanfords birth about 1910 list them >> as white. Jimmy L. reportedlymarried a Dora Clifton when she was 16 >> and then lived in the Choctaw Nation,of OK. They show Jimmy Lee's >> father as as this Thomas Powell whoaccording to their site was killed >> by Federal Men for unknownreasons. They said that Thomas had >> operated a Ferry across theArkansas River. The F.C. Powell listed >> listes hisstate >> of birth as Virginia. Hope this is helpful.TTYL~Diane1860 United >> States Federal Census about Thomas Powell Name:Thomas PowellAge in >> 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 Birthplace:Alabama Home in 1860:Southern >> Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post Office:MoultonValue of >> real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C Powell47 Martha J >> Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas >> Powell3 James L Powell4.12 View >> Original >> Record >> View original image >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When I first had a DNA test (or whatever it was for females) I was > notified that I had 10% American Indian ancestry. I have not been > successful in finding it yet. It is one of the mysteries Ron and I > are trying to pursue in the Powell DNA. > Claire > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

---- diane branam <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Jessica,I had a few minutes and because of the family stories I heard heard growing up and comparing them to what I found I thougt I would see if I could be of help.I think your Powell line is like my Powell line. It is not the Powell who was the Native American, but who they married.When we did our Powell DNA the Native American didn't show up. But it shows in the faces of descendants, so for our line it mustbe in the line of one of the wives. On Ancestry all of the records for Hanford and his father JimmyL. Powell born about 1881 in AL then migrates to OK before Hanfords birth about 1910 list them as white. Jimmy L. reportedlymarried a Dora Clifton when she was 16 and then lived in the Choctaw Nation,of OK. They show Jimmy Lee's father as as this Thomas Powell whoaccording to their site was killed by Federal Men for unknownreasons. They said that Thomas had operated a Ferry across theArkansas River. The F.C. Powell listed listes hisstate > of birth as Virginia. Hope this is helpful.TTYL~Diane1860 United States Federal Census > about Thomas Powell Name:Thomas PowellAge in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 Birthplace:Alabama Home in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C Powell47 Martha J Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas Powell3 James L Powell4.12 View > Original > Record > View original image > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When I first had a DNA test (or whatever it was for females) I was notified that I had 10% American Indian ancestry. I have not been successful in finding it yet. It is one of the mysteries Ron and I are trying to pursue in the Powell DNA. Claire

Jessica: Look up Seminole Chief Osceola on the net his last name may have been Powell Cleve Powell, Jax., /fla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website > > Hi~ > > I have not gotten into the dna aspect of this site. I know with > the surname and dna most if not all of you guys. :) I have had a hard > time, as mentioned, actually finding who is who..etc. My Grandfather's > name was Hanford, born in Stigler, Oklahoma around the 1920. His father's > name was Jimmy, AKA Jimmie, AKA James. His father my great-great > grandfather's name was Thomas. My family runs around from Florida to SC, > GA, Oklahoma, AK. They were natives--my grandfather moved to CA in the > 1940s, said he was white and shaved his head. And passed himswelf off as > white--except when he went back to OK, or reservations.. because he spoke > both Cherokee and Seminole fluently. There are lot of issues with who is > who--remarriages, death, children from previous marriages..etc. > > Does this help? I'll look up my kit # and go back to the site and see if > we match, :) > > Jessica. > > > > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:35:07 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website >> >> Jessica >> This sounds like my family also. My grandfather was from Georgia and >> was also in moonshine. He was also in a family that was (had to deal >> with the klu klux klan). Not so sure that he himself was in it but >> knew of it. So much mystery. Also was suppose to be native american. >> Not much talking of that either. Maybe a name change there also. But >> can't find any real true information on that. >> Rebba # 103902 >> >> On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels wrote: >> >> > >> > Sylvia-- >> > >> > My family liked to take things to the grave too.. However, my >> > grandfather (Hanford Powell) left us tapes. These tapes explained >> > the why of his decisions. Most of my family kept their mouths shut >> > for fear of the government and things that could and would happen to >> > them if they were caught. My family (so I hear) was pretty well >> > known for moonshine, horse thievery, etc. Most refused to live on a >> > reservation--instead living in the hills.. hiding out, most of their >> > lives. Thus, providing records becomes quite difficult. :) >> > >> > Sometimes, family members make desicions for us, our lineage, in >> > hopes that it will benefit us--secure our positions. Or keep the >> > governmnet from finding them (us). It's something to consider--it >> > might not always be shame. I know my family did it for pride/fear/ >> > and to keep the next generation safe. >> > >> > :) >> > >> > Jessica >> > >> > P.S. There was a village of related "Powell's" that were >> > slaughtered some 100 years ago or so.. thus causing an enormous >> > amount of apprehension--tension and fear among those that survived.. >> > The fear began there.> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:55:04 -0600> From: >> > [email protected] >> > > To: [email protected]> CC: [email protected]> Subject: >> > Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website> > > IM pretty sure im an illigetimate >> > powell.i dont care.it is sad to see > people be ashamed of things >> > that happened so long ago.we dont know of > the experiences our >> > ancestors lived through. so we cant judge them now. > alas i have a >> > cousin that knew the secrets but took them to her > grave.she hung >> > up on anyone who inquired.so sad.shame has no place in > our quest >> > for who we came from. sylvia ferriter.> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at >> > 12:05 PM, David.E Smith wrote:> > > ** Reply Requested by 12/5/2008 >> > (Friday) **> > I got the grill ready!! David> > >>> On 12/3/2008 at >> > 4:46 PM, in message <cc3.35ff8a46.3! >> > [email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >, <[email protected] > >>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> > > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:> Jim and Jessica.....> > >> > Thanks for such great replys, and you are both absolutely right, > >> > regarding> that I left out adoption. Thinking back, I didn't >> > mention the > Guardianship> stuff either. > > I've lately been >> > researching the NC genweb site, and discovered another> possibility >> > that is transcribed on some of their county sites. I can't > >> > remember> the exact terminology used there (bastardy cases?), but >> > there are some> transcriptions where women who became pregnant were >> > ordered by the > court to show up> and name the father of their >> > baby, so that he could be made financially> responsible, regarding >> > the unborn child. Sometimes this happened after > the child> was >> > born, but it wasn't unusual if it happened before the > >> > birth...especially> if the woman had no oth! >> > er means of support. Some of the surnames I'm> researching showed up >> > there...on both sides of the court, either as the > woman or> the >> > father. Sadly, I could find nothing I could link to at this point >> > > in my> research. Maybe later....so I didn't put this in my post >> > either. > Forgive me> please for saving it for last. Can only >> > figure that we all wish to > think the> best of our ancestors, but >> > when you enter DNA research, you'd rather > have> facts and correct >> > answers and accept the fact that what you though > "was",> >> > sometimes insn't. I have one exact match at 37 on our Powell page, >> > and > 4 others at> 67 with other surnames. David Smith....I agree! >> > We're gonna ride this > bull> or have steak for dinner!!> > I love >> > seeing input like Jim and Jessica added to our postings. YDNA> >> > research will aid us all, but it's still up to all of us to make > >> > connections and do> research on our own to bring it together.> > >> > Jim Barrett, thank you again for all you do. > > Sue in KY> >> > **************Make your life easier with all your friends,! >> > email, and> favorite sites in one place. 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Hi Jessica,I had a few minutes and because of the family stories I heard heard growing up and comparing them to what I found I thougt I would see if I could be of help.I think your Powell line is like my Powell line. It is not the Powell who was the Native American, but who they married.When we did our Powell DNA the Native American didn't show up. But it shows in the faces of descendants, so for our line it mustbe in the line of one of the wives. On Ancestry all of the records for Hanford and his father JimmyL. Powell born about 1881 in AL then migrates to OK before Hanfords birth about 1910 list them as white. Jimmy L. reportedlymarried a Dora Clifton when she was 16 and then lived in the Choctaw Nation,of OK. They show Jimmy Lee's father as as this Thomas Powell whoaccording to their site was killed by Federal Men for unknownreasons. They said that Thomas had operated a Ferry across theArkansas River. The F.C. Powell listed listes hisstate of birth as Virginia. Hope this is helpful.TTYL~Diane1860 United States Federal Census about Thomas Powell Name:Thomas PowellAge in 1860:3 Birth Year:abt 1857 Birthplace:Alabama Home in 1860:Southern Division, Lawrence, AlabamaGender:Male Post Office:MoultonValue of real estate:View ImageHousehold Members:NameAgeF C Powell47 Martha J Powell34 Peter Powell17 John Powell14 Cornelius Powell5 Thomas Powell3 James L Powell4.12 View Original Record View original image

Hi~ I have not gotten into the dna aspect of this site. I know with the surname and dna most if not all of you guys. :) I have had a hard time, as mentioned, actually finding who is who..etc. My Grandfather's name was Hanford, born in Stigler, Oklahoma around the 1920. His father's name was Jimmy, AKA Jimmie, AKA James. His father my great-great grandfather's name was Thomas. My family runs around from Florida to SC, GA, Oklahoma, AK. They were natives--my grandfather moved to CA in the 1940s, said he was white and shaved his head. And passed himswelf off as white--except when he went back to OK, or reservations.. because he spoke both Cherokee and Seminole fluently. There are lot of issues with who is who--remarriages, death, children from previous marriages..etc. Does this help? I'll look up my kit # and go back to the site and see if we match, :) Jessica. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:35:07 -0800 > Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website > > Jessica > This sounds like my family also. My grandfather was from Georgia and > was also in moonshine. He was also in a family that was (had to deal > with the klu klux klan). Not so sure that he himself was in it but > knew of it. So much mystery. Also was suppose to be native american. > Not much talking of that either. Maybe a name change there also. But > can't find any real true information on that. > Rebba # 103902 > > On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels wrote: > > > > > Sylvia-- > > > > My family liked to take things to the grave too.. However, my > > grandfather (Hanford Powell) left us tapes. These tapes explained > > the why of his decisions. Most of my family kept their mouths shut > > for fear of the government and things that could and would happen to > > them if they were caught. My family (so I hear) was pretty well > > known for moonshine, horse thievery, etc. Most refused to live on a > > reservation--instead living in the hills.. hiding out, most of their > > lives. Thus, providing records becomes quite difficult. :) > > > > Sometimes, family members make desicions for us, our lineage, in > > hopes that it will benefit us--secure our positions. Or keep the > > governmnet from finding them (us). It's something to consider--it > > might not always be shame. I know my family did it for pride/fear/ > > and to keep the next generation safe. > > > > :) > > > > Jessica > > > > P.S. There was a village of related "Powell's" that were > > slaughtered some 100 years ago or so.. thus causing an enormous > > amount of apprehension--tension and fear among those that survived.. > > The fear began there.> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:55:04 -0600> From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected]> CC: [email protected]> Subject: > > Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website> > > IM pretty sure im an illigetimate > > powell.i dont care.it is sad to see > people be ashamed of things > > that happened so long ago.we dont know of > the experiences our > > ancestors lived through. so we cant judge them now. > alas i have a > > cousin that knew the secrets but took them to her > grave.she hung > > up on anyone who inquired.so sad.shame has no place in > our quest > > for who we came from. sylvia ferriter.> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at > > 12:05 PM, David.E Smith wrote:> > > ** Reply Requested by 12/5/2008 > > (Friday) **> > I got the grill ready!! David> > >>> On 12/3/2008 at > > 4:46 PM, in message <cc3.35ff8a46.3! > > [email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > > <mailto:[email protected]> >, <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:> Jim and Jessica.....> > > > Thanks for such great replys, and you are both absolutely right, > > > regarding> that I left out adoption. Thinking back, I didn't > > mention the > Guardianship> stuff either. > > I've lately been > > researching the NC genweb site, and discovered another> possibility > > that is transcribed on some of their county sites. I can't > > > remember> the exact terminology used there (bastardy cases?), but > > there are some> transcriptions where women who became pregnant were > > ordered by the > court to show up> and name the father of their > > baby, so that he could be made financially> responsible, regarding > > the unborn child. Sometimes this happened after > the child> was > > born, but it wasn't unusual if it happened before the > > > birth...especially> if the woman had no oth! > > er means of support. Some of the surnames I'm> researching showed up > > there...on both sides of the court, either as the > woman or> the > > father. Sadly, I could find nothing I could link to at this point > > > in my> research. Maybe later....so I didn't put this in my post > > either. > Forgive me> please for saving it for last. Can only > > figure that we all wish to > think the> best of our ancestors, but > > when you enter DNA research, you'd rather > have> facts and correct > > answers and accept the fact that what you though > "was",> > > sometimes insn't. I have one exact match at 37 on our Powell page, > > and > 4 others at> 67 with other surnames. David Smith....I agree! > > We're gonna ride this > bull> or have steak for dinner!!> > I love > > seeing input like Jim and Jessica added to our postings. YDNA> > > research will aid us all, but it's still up to all of us to make > > > connections and do> research on our own to bring it together.> > > > Jim Barrett, thank you again for all you do. > > Sue in KY> > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends,! > > email, and> favorite sites in one place. 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Jessica This sounds like my family also. My grandfather was from Georgia and was also in moonshine. He was also in a family that was (had to deal with the klu klux klan). Not so sure that he himself was in it but knew of it. So much mystery. Also was suppose to be native american. Not much talking of that either. Maybe a name change there also. But can't find any real true information on that. Rebba # 103902 On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels wrote: > > Sylvia-- > > My family liked to take things to the grave too.. However, my > grandfather (Hanford Powell) left us tapes. These tapes explained > the why of his decisions. Most of my family kept their mouths shut > for fear of the government and things that could and would happen to > them if they were caught. My family (so I hear) was pretty well > known for moonshine, horse thievery, etc. Most refused to live on a > reservation--instead living in the hills.. hiding out, most of their > lives. Thus, providing records becomes quite difficult. :) > > Sometimes, family members make desicions for us, our lineage, in > hopes that it will benefit us--secure our positions. Or keep the > governmnet from finding them (us). It's something to consider--it > might not always be shame. I know my family did it for pride/fear/ > and to keep the next generation safe. > > :) > > Jessica > > P.S. There was a village of related "Powell's" that were > slaughtered some 100 years ago or so.. thus causing an enormous > amount of apprehension--tension and fear among those that survived.. > The fear began there.> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:55:04 -0600> From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]> CC: [email protected]> Subject: > Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website> > > IM pretty sure im an illigetimate > powell.i dont care.it is sad to see > people be ashamed of things > that happened so long ago.we dont know of > the experiences our > ancestors lived through. so we cant judge them now. > alas i have a > cousin that knew the secrets but took them to her > grave.she hung > up on anyone who inquired.so sad.shame has no place in > our quest > for who we came from. sylvia ferriter.> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at > 12:05 PM, David.E Smith wrote:> > > ** Reply Requested by 12/5/2008 > (Friday) **> > I got the grill ready!! David> > >>> On 12/3/2008 at > 4:46 PM, in message <cc3.35ff8a46.3! > [email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >, <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:> Jim and Jessica.....> > > Thanks for such great replys, and you are both absolutely right, > > regarding> that I left out adoption. Thinking back, I didn't > mention the > Guardianship> stuff either. > > I've lately been > researching the NC genweb site, and discovered another> possibility > that is transcribed on some of their county sites. I can't > > remember> the exact terminology used there (bastardy cases?), but > there are some> transcriptions where women who became pregnant were > ordered by the > court to show up> and name the father of their > baby, so that he could be made financially> responsible, regarding > the unborn child. Sometimes this happened after > the child> was > born, but it wasn't unusual if it happened before the > > birth...especially> if the woman had no oth! > er means of support. Some of the surnames I'm> researching showed up > there...on both sides of the court, either as the > woman or> the > father. Sadly, I could find nothing I could link to at this point > > in my> research. Maybe later....so I didn't put this in my post > either. > Forgive me> please for saving it for last. Can only > figure that we all wish to > think the> best of our ancestors, but > when you enter DNA research, you'd rather > have> facts and correct > answers and accept the fact that what you though > "was",> > sometimes insn't. I have one exact match at 37 on our Powell page, > and > 4 others at> 67 with other surnames. David Smith....I agree! > We're gonna ride this > bull> or have steak for dinner!!> > I love > seeing input like Jim and Jessica added to our postings. YDNA> > research will aid us all, but it's still up to all of us to make > > connections and do> research on our own to bring it together.> > > Jim Barrett, thank you again for all you do. > > Sue in KY> > **************Make your life easier with all your friends,! > email, and> favorite sites in one place. 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Jessica,Do I match you closely?Im kit 36906 james jones. sylvia ferriter On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Jecca Pow-Pow Wheels wrote: > Sylvia--           My family liked to take things to the grave too.. However, my grandfather (Hanford Powell) left us tapes. These tapes explained the why of his decisions.  Most of my family kept their mouths shut for fear of the government and things that could and would happen to them if they were caught.  My family (so I hear) was pretty well known for moonshine, horse thievery, etc. Most refused to live on a reservation--instead living in the hills.. hiding out, most of their lives.  Thus, providing records becomes quite difficult. :)   Sometimes, family members make desicions for us, our lineage, in hopes that it will benefit us--secure our positions.  Or keep the governmnet from finding them (us).  It's something to consider--it might not always be shame.  I know my family did it for pride/fear/and to keep the next generation safe.   :)   Jessica   P.S.  There was a village of related "Powell's" that were slaughtered some 100 years ago or so.. thus causing an enormous amount of apprehension--tension and fear among those that survived.. The fear began there.> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:55:04 -0600> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > CC: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website> > > IM pretty sure im an illigetimate powell.i dont care.it is sad to see > people be ashamed of things that happened so long ago.we dont know of > the experiences our ancestors lived through. so we cant judge them now. > alas i have a cousin that knew the secrets but took them to her > grave.she hung up on anyone who inquired.so sad.shame has no place in > our quest for who we came from. sylvia ferriter.> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:05 PM, David.E Smith wrote:> > > ** Reply Requested by 12/5/2008 (Friday) **> > I got the grill ready!!  David> > >>> On 12/3/2008 at 4:46 PM, in message <cc3.35ff8a46.3!  [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]>  > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> >   > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > >, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]>  > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> >   <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > > wrote:> Jim and  Jessica.....> > Thanks for such great replys, and you  are both absolutely right, > regarding> that I left out adoption.  Thinking  back, I didn't mention the > Guardianship> stuff either. > > I've lately been researching the NC  genweb site, and discovered another> possibility that is transcribed on some of  their county sites.  I can't > remember> the exact terminology used there  (bastardy cases?), but there are some> transcriptions where women who became  pregnant were ordered by the > court to show up> and name the father of their baby,  so that he could be made financially> responsible, regarding the unborn  child.  Sometimes this happened after > the child> was born, but it wasn't  unusual if it happened before the > birth...especially> if the woman had no oth!  er  means of support.  Some of the surnames I'm> researching showed up   there...on both sides of the court, either as the > woman or> the father.   Sadly, I could find nothing I could link to at this point > in my> research.   Maybe later....so I didn't put this in my post either.  > Forgive me> please  for saving it for last.  Can only figure that we all wish to > think the> best  of our ancestors, but when you enter DNA research, you'd rather > have> facts and  correct answers and accept the fact that what you though > "was",> sometimes  insn't.  I have one exact match at 37 on our Powell page, and > 4 others at> 67 with other surnames. David Smith....I agree!  We're gonna ride this  > bull> or have steak for dinner!!> > I love seeing input like Jim and Jessica  added to our postings.  YDNA> research will aid us all, but it's still up to  all of us to make > connections and do> research on our own to bring it  together.> > Jim Barrett, thank you again for all you  do. > > Sue in  KY> **************Make your life easier with all your friends,!   email, and> favorite sites in one place.  Try it now.> > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010 <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010>   <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010>  > <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010 <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010>   <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010> > >   > <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010 <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010>   <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010> > > )> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]>  <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > >   <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> >  with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message>  > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]>  <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > >   <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> >  with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, ple!  ase send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]>  with the word 'un subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 <http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008>   <http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008>   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]>  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sylvia-- My family liked to take things to the grave too.. However, my grandfather (Hanford Powell) left us tapes. These tapes explained the why of his decisions. Most of my family kept their mouths shut for fear of the government and things that could and would happen to them if they were caught. My family (so I hear) was pretty well known for moonshine, horse thievery, etc. Most refused to live on a reservation--instead living in the hills.. hiding out, most of their lives. Thus, providing records becomes quite difficult. :) Sometimes, family members make desicions for us, our lineage, in hopes that it will benefit us--secure our positions. Or keep the governmnet from finding them (us). It's something to consider--it might not always be shame. I know my family did it for pride/fear/and to keep the next generation safe. :) Jessica P.S. There was a village of related "Powell's" that were slaughtered some 100 years ago or so.. thus causing an enormous amount of apprehension--tension and fear among those that survived.. The fear began there.> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:55:04 -0600> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> CC: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Our Website> > > IM pretty sure im an illigetimate powell.i dont care.it is sad to see > people be ashamed of things that happened so long ago.we dont know of > the experiences our ancestors lived through. so we cant judge them now. > alas i have a cousin that knew the secrets but took them to her > grave.she hung up on anyone who inquired.so sad.shame has no place in > our quest for who we came from. sylvia ferriter.> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:05 PM, David.E Smith wrote:> > > ** Reply Requested by 12/5/2008 (Friday) **> > I got the grill ready!! David> > >>> On 12/3/2008 at 4:46 PM, in message <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >, <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:> Jim and Jessica.....> > Thanks for such great replys, and you are both absolutely right, > regarding> that I left out adoption. Thinking back, I didn't mention the > Guardianship> stuff either. > > I've lately been researching the NC genweb site, and discovered another> possibility that is transcribed on some of their county sites. I can't > remember> the exact terminology used there (bastardy cases?), but there are some> transcriptions where women who became pregnant were ordered by the > court to show up> and name the father of their baby, so that he could be made financially> responsible, regarding the unborn child. Sometimes this happened after > the child> was born, but it wasn't unusual if it happened before the > birth...especially> if the woman had no other means of support. Some of the surnames I'm> researching showed up there...on both sides of the court, either as the > woman or> the father. Sadly, I could find nothing I could link to at this point > in my> research. Maybe later....so I didn't put this in my post either. > Forgive me> please for saving it for last. Can only figure that we all wish to > think the> best of our ancestors, but when you enter DNA research, you'd rather > have> facts and correct answers and accept the fact that what you though > "was",> sometimes insn't. I have one exact match at 37 on our Powell page, and > 4 others at> 67 with other surnames. David Smith....I agree! We're gonna ride this > bull> or have steak for dinner!!> > I love seeing input like Jim and Jessica added to our postings. YDNA> research will aid us all, but it's still up to all of us to make > connections and do> research on our own to bring it together.> > Jim Barrett, thank you again for all you do. > > Sue in KY> **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and> favorite sites in one place. 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IM pretty sure im an illigetimate powell.i dont care.it is sad to see people be ashamed of things that happened so long ago.we dont know of the experiences our ancestors lived through. so we cant judge them now. alas i have a cousin that knew the secrets but took them to her grave.she hung up on anyone who inquired.so sad.shame has no place in our quest for who we came from. sylvia ferriter. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:05 PM, David.E Smith wrote: > ** Reply Requested by 12/5/2008 (Friday) ** I got the grill ready!!  David >>> On 12/3/2008 at 4:46 PM, in message <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>   >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >, <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Jim and  Jessica..... Thanks for such great replys, and you  are both absolutely right, regarding that I left out adoption.  Thinking  back, I didn't mention the Guardianship stuff either.  I've lately been researching the NC  genweb site, and discovered another possibility that is transcribed on some of  their county sites.  I can't remember the exact terminology used there  (bastardy cases?), but there are some transcriptions where women who became  pregnant were ordered by the court to show up and name the father of their baby,  so that he could be made financially responsible, regarding the unborn  child.  Sometimes this happened after the child was born, but it wasn't  unusual if it happened before the birth...especially if the woman had no other  means of support.  Some of the surnames I'm researching showed up  there...on both sides of the court, either as the woman or the father.   Sadly, I could find nothing I could link to at this point in my research.   Maybe later....so I didn't put this in my post either.  Forgive me please  for saving it for last.  Can only figure that we all wish to think the best  of our ancestors, but when you enter DNA research, you'd rather have facts and  correct answers and accept the fact that what you though "was", sometimes  insn't.  I have one exact match at 37 on our Powell page, and 4 others at 67 with other surnames. David Smith....I agree!  We're gonna ride this  bull or have steak for dinner!! I love seeing input like Jim and Jessica  added to our postings.  YDNA research will aid us all, but it's still up to  all of us to make connections and do research on our own to bring it  together. Jim Barrett, thank you again for all you  do.  Sue in  KY **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place.  Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010 <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010>   <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010> ) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]>  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]>  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Im kit 36906 james n jones (my brother) im descended from william mcintosh the half breed creek indian chief on my fathers mothers side.i have info if any of you are connected to him. sylvia jones ferriter On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Jim Barrett wrote: > Bev,   On my maternal side my Julia Frances Powell, born Hood Co., TX 1857 married Preston Aiken McIntosh, born South Carolina 1850. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Barrett Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm <http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm>   <http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm>   Powell Surname DNA - http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm <http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm>   <http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm> --- On Thu, 12/4/08, bev powell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: From: bev powell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [POWELL-DNA] MT connections To: "Powell DNA List" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:05 AM Hi My MT connections are Some of the names have different spellings; but all part of their respective Clan Robinson/Robison/Robertson  McIntosh/MacIntosh/MacKintosh McLachlan/McLachlin/McLaughlan Carr/Karr/Kerr My Robinson family ancestory originated in  Ireland Except for the Robinson surname the remainder of my "Mothers"  all derive their ancestory from Scotland. So, as I understand the MT matching process, if you have a llow resolution matches to me then you must also have similar Scottish routes.  If its a high resolution then the same applies but a closer connection. The entire list of both  my MT AND Y  biological surname connections are Beatty, Bennett, Boyce, Burgess, Butler, Carr, Downham, McIntosh, McLachlan, Morgan, O'Neil, Powell(X2), Pritchard, Robinson, Russell, Sanborn, Smith, and Wood. So my ancestory is all mixed up with the English, Irish, Scottish and Welch Take care Bev Powell [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]> Strathroy  Ontario  Canada     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>   <mailto:[email protected]>  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message