Hey n Ya'll ... I think what would be fun .. and helpfull would be to schedule a Go-To-Meeting type meeting where all who are interested could get together and learn from Jim at one-place-one-time. Maybe a set agenda to proitect time and information beneficial to all. David Powell -----Original Message----- From: mgpage <mgpage@att.net> To: powell-dna <powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2012 10:00 am Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding Jim, I'm not quite sure if you're saying they CAN not share a common ancestor (they may or may not), or they can NOT share a common ancestor (they do not)? -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:04 AM To: POWELL-DNA-L Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding I have been telling you, for a long time, that two people in different Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) can not share a common paternal ancestor.  I stand by that statement.   What I have not said is - just because two people are in the same Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) does not mean that they do share a common paternal ancestor.  Look at at website.  We have seven different groups that are R1b1a2.  The first kit number from each of these groups 201897, 220535, 131090, 201835, 159187, 146923 and 122891.  A report that I can see, but you can't, lets me check the genetic distance between different members of our project.  It doesn't list anyone if the genetic distance is greater than 20 on a 37 marker compare.   When I compare 201897 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 20 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 220535 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 13 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 131090 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 12 from 122891 and of 13 or more from the rest of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   I hope this makes my point. I keep repeating "tested to the same level at the same time" because a person can have a backbone test which tests only to the larger branches of the Haplotree.  Even when two people have ordered Deep Clade tests the results need to be from the same time frame as new SNPs are being added all of the time. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well said, Jim. I found myself recently trying to explain this concept to a potential DNA donor on the phone. I wish I had your eloquence of diction and "big picture" point of view. I am going to print your examples out and use them in my explanation, next time. Thanks for making this clear. John Powell In a message dated 9/6/2012 11:58:24 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, parino@flash.net writes: If two men are from a different major Haplogroups (for example one is a R--- and one is a T---) they CAN NOT and/or DO NOT (both apply) share a common paternal ancestor. Just because two men share a common backbone Haplogroug (R1b1a2 for an example) this does not imply that they DO share a common paternal ancestor. You must compare their STR results (the more markers the better) to determine if there was a possible common paternal ancestor. To me saying they CAN not and saying they can NOT means the same thing, but I'm far from being a English expert. In both cases I mean they DO NOT. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Thu, 9/6/12, mgpage@att.net <mgpage@att.net> wrote: From: mgpage@att.net <mgpage@att.net> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 11:58 AM Jim, I'm not quite sure if you're saying they CAN not share a common ancestor (they may or may not), or they can NOT share a common ancestor (they do not)? -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:04 AM To: POWELL-DNA-L Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding I have been telling you, for a long time, that two people in different Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) can not share a common paternal ancestor. I stand by that statement. What I have not said is - just because two people are in the same Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) does not mean that they do share a common paternal ancestor. Look at at website. We have seven different groups that are R1b1a2. The first kit number from each of these groups 201897, 220535, 131090, 201835, 159187, 146923 and 122891. A report that I can see, but you can't, lets me check the genetic distance between different members of our project. It doesn't list anyone if the genetic distance is greater than 20 on a 37 marker compare. When I compare 201897 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 20 or more from all of them. They do not share a common paternal ancestor. When I compare 220535 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 13 or more from all of them. They do not share a common paternal ancestor. When I compare 131090 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 12 from 122891 and of 13 or more from the rest of them. They do not share a common paternal ancestor. I hope this makes my point. I keep repeating "tested to the same level at the same time" because a person can have a backbone test which tests only to the larger branches of the Haplotree. Even when two people have ordered Deep Clade tests the results need to be from the same time frame as new SNPs are being added all of the time. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Or you could just send me questions off list and I would answer them on the list as time permits.  If you do send questions please be sure to include your kit number. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Thu, 9/6/12, dlp2300@aol.com <dlp2300@aol.com> wrote: From: dlp2300@aol.com <dlp2300@aol.com> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 5:50 PM Hey n Ya'll ... I think what would be fun .. and helpfull would be to schedule a Go-To-Meeting type meeting where all who are interested could get together and learn from Jim at one-place-one-time.  Maybe a set agenda to proitect time and information beneficial to all. David Powell

If possible, that would be great! --- On Thu, 9/6/12, dlp2300@aol.com <dlp2300@aol.com> wrote: From: dlp2300@aol.com <dlp2300@aol.com> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 5:50 PM Hey n Ya'll ... I think what would be fun .. and helpfull would be to schedule a Go-To-Meeting type meeting where all who are interested could get together and learn from Jim at one-place-one-time.  Maybe a set agenda to proitect time and information beneficial to all. David Powell -----Original Message----- From: mgpage <mgpage@att.net> To: powell-dna <powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2012 10:00 am Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding Jim, I'm not quite sure if you're saying they CAN not share a common ancestor (they may or may not), or they can NOT share a common ancestor (they do not)? -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:04 AM To: POWELL-DNA-L Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding I have been telling you, for a long time, that two people in different Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) can not share a common paternal ancestor.  I stand by that statement.   What I have not said is - just because two people are in the same Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) does not mean that they do share a common paternal ancestor.  Look at at website.  We have seven different groups that are R1b1a2.  The first kit number from each of these groups 201897, 220535, 131090, 201835, 159187, 146923 and 122891.  A report that I can see, but you can't, lets me check the genetic distance between different members of our project.  It doesn't list anyone if the genetic distance is greater than 20 on a 37 marker compare.   When I compare 201897 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 20 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 220535 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 13 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 131090 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 12 from 122891 and of 13 or more from the rest of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   I hope this makes my point. I keep repeating "tested to the same level at the same time" because a person can have a backbone test which tests only to the larger branches of the Haplotree.  Even when two people have ordered Deep Clade tests the results need to be from the same time frame as new SNPs are being added all of the time. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are a very patient man! Annie Waters ________________________________ From: Jim Barrett <parino@flash.net> To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding If two men are from a different major Haplogroups (for example one is a R--- and one is a T---) they CAN NOT and/or DO NOT (both apply) share a common paternal ancestor.   Just because two men share a common backbone Haplogroug (R1b1a2 for an example) this does not imply that they DO share a common paternal ancestor.  You must compare their STR results (the more markers the better) to determine if there was a possible common paternal ancestor.    To me saying they CAN not and saying they can NOT means the same thing, but I'm far from being a English expert.  In both cases I mean they DO NOT. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Thu, 9/6/12, mgpage@att.net <mgpage@att.net> wrote: From: mgpage@att.net <mgpage@att.net> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 11:58 AM Jim, I'm not quite sure if you're saying they CAN not share a common ancestor (they may or may not), or they can NOT share a common ancestor (they do not)? -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:04 AM To: POWELL-DNA-L Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding I have been telling you, for a long time, that two people in different Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) can not share a common paternal ancestor.  I stand by that statement.   What I have not said is - just because two people are in the same Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) does not mean that they do share a common paternal ancestor.  Look at at website.  We have seven different groups that are R1b1a2.  The first kit number from each of these groups 201897, 220535, 131090, 201835, 159187, 146923 and 122891.  A report that I can see, but you can't, lets me check the genetic distance between different members of our project.  It doesn't list anyone if the genetic distance is greater than 20 on a 37 marker compare.   When I compare 201897 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 20 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 220535 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 13 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 131090 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 12 from 122891 and of 13 or more from the rest of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   I hope this makes my point. I keep repeating "tested to the same level at the same time" because a person can have a backbone test which tests only to the larger branches of the Haplotree.  Even when two people have ordered Deep Clade tests the results need to be from the same time frame as new SNPs are being added all of the time. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If two men are from a different major Haplogroups (for example one is a R--- and one is a T---) they CAN NOT and/or DO NOT (both apply) share a common paternal ancestor.   Just because two men share a common backbone Haplogroug (R1b1a2 for an example) this does not imply that they DO share a common paternal ancestor.  You must compare their STR results (the more markers the better) to determine if there was a possible common paternal ancestor.    To me saying they CAN not and saying they can NOT means the same thing, but I'm far from being a English expert.  In both cases I mean they DO NOT. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Thu, 9/6/12, mgpage@att.net <mgpage@att.net> wrote: From: mgpage@att.net <mgpage@att.net> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 11:58 AM Jim, I'm not quite sure if you're saying they CAN not share a common ancestor (they may or may not), or they can NOT share a common ancestor (they do not)? -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:04 AM To: POWELL-DNA-L Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding I have been telling you, for a long time, that two people in different Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) can not share a common paternal ancestor.  I stand by that statement.   What I have not said is - just because two people are in the same Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) does not mean that they do share a common paternal ancestor.  Look at at website.  We have seven different groups that are R1b1a2.  The first kit number from each of these groups 201897, 220535, 131090, 201835, 159187, 146923 and 122891.  A report that I can see, but you can't, lets me check the genetic distance between different members of our project.  It doesn't list anyone if the genetic distance is greater than 20 on a 37 marker compare.   When I compare 201897 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 20 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 220535 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 13 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 131090 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 12 from 122891 and of 13 or more from the rest of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   I hope this makes my point. I keep repeating "tested to the same level at the same time" because a person can have a backbone test which tests only to the larger branches of the Haplotree.  Even when two people have ordered Deep Clade tests the results need to be from the same time frame as new SNPs are being added all of the time. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Jim, I'm not quite sure if you're saying they CAN not share a common ancestor (they may or may not), or they can NOT share a common ancestor (they do not)? -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:04 AM To: POWELL-DNA-L Subject: [POWELL-DNA] Haplogroup - Relationship Misunderstanding I have been telling you, for a long time, that two people in different Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) can not share a common paternal ancestor.  I stand by that statement.   What I have not said is - just because two people are in the same Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) does not mean that they do share a common paternal ancestor.  Look at at website.  We have seven different groups that are R1b1a2.  The first kit number from each of these groups 201897, 220535, 131090, 201835, 159187, 146923 and 122891.  A report that I can see, but you can't, lets me check the genetic distance between different members of our project.  It doesn't list anyone if the genetic distance is greater than 20 on a 37 marker compare.   When I compare 201897 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 20 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 220535 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 13 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 131090 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 12 from 122891 and of 13 or more from the rest of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   I hope this makes my point. I keep repeating "tested to the same level at the same time" because a person can have a backbone test which tests only to the larger branches of the Haplotree.  Even when two people have ordered Deep Clade tests the results need to be from the same time frame as new SNPs are being added all of the time. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been telling you, for a long time, that two people in different Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) can not share a common paternal ancestor.  I stand by that statement.   What I have not said is - just because two people are in the same Paternal Haplogroups (tested to the same level at the same time) does not mean that they do share a common paternal ancestor.  Look at at website.  We have seven different groups that are R1b1a2.  The first kit number from each of these groups 201897, 220535, 131090, 201835, 159187, 146923 and 122891.  A report that I can see, but you can't, lets me check the genetic distance between different members of our project.  It doesn't list anyone if the genetic distance is greater than 20 on a 37 marker compare.   When I compare 201897 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 20 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 220535 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 13 or more from all of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   When I compare 131090 to the other kits listed above he is a genetic distance of 12 from 122891 and of 13 or more from the rest of them.  They do not share a common paternal ancestor.   I hope this makes my point. I keep repeating "tested to the same level at the same time" because a person can have a backbone test which tests only to the larger branches of the Haplotree.  Even when two people have ordered Deep Clade tests the results need to be from the same time frame as new SNPs are being added all of the time. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

And PROUD "Bubbas" at that! HA HA! -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dlp2300@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 4:31 PM To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Ya'll just a bunch of Bubbas (LOL) ... My Family ... -----Original Message----- From: PATRICIA SPRINGER <springerpc@msn.com> To: powell-dna <powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2012 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 You tell him Jim, I will pat my foot!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha. Just joking David, know you will find a way to get me back!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha. Pat Powell, Springer ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Barrett<mailto:parino@flash.net> To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 David, You need to get a new computer. The link worked fine for me and I'm out in the sticks! Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm<http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm> --- On Tue, 9/4/12, David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov>> wrote: From: David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov>> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 To: "'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'<mailto:'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'>" <powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com>> Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 3:57 PM Hey Pat, sumpin's wrong wit' da' link! Ha Ha. Love David (Could'nt get it to go there) -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:31 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

UH HUH!! I just want you to know you're BOTH outta da' will!! (hehehehe LOL) David -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 4:25 PM To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 You tell him Jim, I will pat my foot!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha. Just joking David, know you will find a way to get me back!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha. Pat Powell, Springer ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Barrett<mailto:parino@flash.net> To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 David, You need to get a new computer. The link worked fine for me and I'm out in the sticks! Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm<http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm> --- On Tue, 9/4/12, David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov>> wrote: From: David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov>> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 To: "'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'<mailto:'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'>" <powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com>> Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 3:57 PM Hey Pat, sumpin's wrong wit' da' link! Ha Ha. Love David (Could'nt get it to go there) -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:31 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh yeah, go ahead, rub it in. Actually I don't know what happens to the system with Outlook. We went to that system back in January and it's been a challenge to say the least. I went to my "E"mail locker in Yahoo and it opened just fine. So I don't know................ But I got it and printed it. INTERESTING!! Gonna go home and read it. Been outside all day and it's a SWEATBOX around here. -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 4:15 PM To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 David,   You need to get a new computer.  The link worked fine for me and I'm out in the sticks! Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Tue, 9/4/12, David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov> wrote: From: David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 To: "'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'" <powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 3:57 PM Hey Pat, sumpin's wrong wit' da' link!  Ha Ha. Love David  (Could'nt get it to go there) -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:31 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War.  The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom .  Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle.  Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey Pat, sumpin's wrong wit' da' link! Ha Ha. Love David (Could'nt get it to go there) -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:31 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Charlie for informing me about this, it does help me to understand. Are you in the Haplogroup R1b1a2???? I have a Powell Chart that was copied by David Leon Powell from a Powell Family File from the Madoc Castle in Breconshire, Wales. I can send it to each and every person on the Powell site, but do not have it as a link, just a page and a attachment in a PDF File. If any one would like to have a copy of this chart, contact me off line at: springerpc@msn.com<mailto:springerpc@msn.com>. It is apart of the R1b1a2's family history. Thanks again, Pat Powell, Springer. springerpc@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlie<mailto:chpowell@charter.net> To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Patricia, Thanks for the informative article. By the way, the problem with opening the link as you have it is because the web address is duplicated as one long address! . To correct, simple delete half of the address up to the end of "120990". Charlie Powell -----Original Message----- From: PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:30 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patricia, Thanks for the informative article. By the way, the problem with opening the link as you have it is because the web address is duplicated as one long address! . To correct, simple delete half of the address up to the end of "120990". Charlie Powell -----Original Message----- From: PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:30 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is good David, glad you were able to open it, I do not know how to put a website address on another site, with the site I am putting it on, without a addition of something from the site I am putting it on. Hope everyone understands what I am trying to say. If all fails for everyone to open this site, search www.vfw.org<http://www.vfw.org/> and click on to News & Info, and Magazine will come up, click on that and let the magazine load up. It takes a while, depending on your server and computer hook up. Have fun everyone!!!!!!!! P. P. Springer ----- Original Message ----- From: David E. Smith<mailto:davidesmith99@yahoo.com> To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hey hon, false alarm, I got it to work on the "home" "E"mail. It wouldn't open up in "Outlook" for some reason. I printed it so I could take it home and read it. Stay tuned! From: David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov>> To: "'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'<mailto:'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'>" <powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hey Pat, sumpin's wrong wit' da' link! Ha Ha. Love David (Could'nt get it to go there) -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:31 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try this. Worked for me with AOL In a message dated 9/4/2012 5:26:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, springerpc@msn.com writes: <http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990

Ya'll just a bunch of Bubbas (LOL) ... My Family ... -----Original Message----- From: PATRICIA SPRINGER <springerpc@msn.com> To: powell-dna <powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2012 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 You tell him Jim, I will pat my foot!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha. Just joking David, know you will find a way to get me back!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha. Pat Powell, Springer ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Barrett<mailto:parino@flash.net> To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 David, You need to get a new computer. The link worked fine for me and I'm out in the sticks! Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm<http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm> --- On Tue, 9/4/12, David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov>> wrote: From: David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov>> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 To: "'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'<mailto:'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'>" <powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com>> Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 3:57 PM Hey Pat, sumpin's wrong wit' da' link! Ha Ha. Love David (Could'nt get it to go there) -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:31 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You tell him Jim, I will pat my foot!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha. Just joking David, know you will find a way to get me back!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha. Pat Powell, Springer ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Barrett<mailto:parino@flash.net> To: powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 David, You need to get a new computer. The link worked fine for me and I'm out in the sticks! Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Powell Surname DNA Project http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm<http://jpbdna.com/powell-surname-dna-project.htm> --- On Tue, 9/4/12, David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov>> wrote: From: David E. Smith <David.E.Smith@tn.gov<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov>> Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 To: "'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'<mailto:'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'>" <powell-dna@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna@rootsweb.com>> Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 3:57 PM Hey Pat, sumpin's wrong wit' da' link! Ha Ha. Love David (Could'nt get it to go there) -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:31 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David, Try www.vfw.org<http://www.vfw.org/>, and click on to News and Info, and the Sept. issue of the Magazine will come up. You will be able to view the whole magazine when completely loaded up. Pat Powell, Springer ----- Original Message ----- From: David E. Smith<mailto:David.E.Smith@tn.gov> To: 'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'<mailto:'powell-dna@rootsweb.com'> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hey Pat, sumpin's wrong wit' da' link! Ha Ha. Love David (Could'nt get it to go there) -----Original Message----- From: powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:powell-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA SPRINGER Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:31 PM To: powell-dna Subject: [POWELL-DNA] VFW Magazine September 2012 Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello R1b1a2 Haplogroup, The VFW magazine, featuring parents that surendered their sons, plus the father in the Rev. War. The 17 sons of Richard Powell and Charity Chew. fought in the Rev. War along side of each other, and their Father, Richard for America's freedom . Early family settlers came to settle in New Jersey, in the early 1600's, from Breconshire, Wales, and the Madoc Castle. Enjoy!!!!! P. Powell, Springer http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990<http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=120990>