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    1. Re: [POWELL] Re: POWELL-D Digest V05 #7
    2. Stephanie Cecil
    3. Wayne and others....please note that these "Naming Patterns" were NOT absolute... Consider this family of mine..... I am descended from the second of TWO brothers.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.James R/S McMullen [1760-1794 son of William and Margaret "Nancy"] m. Sarah Vick [ 1762- 1842 d/o Benjamin and Mary ] ....2. William [1742-1847]m. Lavinia Fain [1787-1858, d/o Thomas and Mary] their issue...... 3.Mary [ mother's mom and father's grandmom.] 3.James [father's dad and only brother] 3.John ? 3.Sarah [father's mom] 3.Rebecca [ mother's sister? see below] 3. Elijah ? 3. William [ Father and mother's brother] 3. Elizabeth [mother's oldest sister] 3. Nancy [father's grandmom and mother's sister] 3. Luvenia [ Mother] 3. Thomas [mother's father and brother] 3. Noah [?] ...2. James [1788-1862] m. Rebecca Fain[1793-1858 d/o Thomas and Mary] their issue 3. Martha [?] 3. William [father's and mother's brothers] 3. Thomas [mother's father] 3. Lavincia [mother's sister?] 3. Mary [mother's mother and father's grandmom] 3. James [Father and HIS father] 3. Daniel [?] 3. Sarah [father's mother] 3. Lavinia [ mother's sister] 3. John [?] 3. David [?] 3. Malcolm Laurence [ ?. my ggrandpa] 2. Sarah [1790-1827] m. Henry Marshall These three were the only children of James R/S[revolutionary soldier] and Sarah McMullen. He died young in an accident. Thomas R/S Fain did have brothers named John and David and James R/ S McMullen had a brother named Eli, maybe Elijah.? but I cannot find a "Martha , a Daniel, a Noah a Malcolm nor a Laurence" anywhere and ,as you see , the naming pattern is somewhat irregular. The mother's oldest brother was Matthew and the father's father;s other brothers were Robert and Nathaniel [no sisters known] and then there is the father's mother's father Benjamin Vick??? Of course ,it is also possible that these names were given to infants who died which was VERY common in the early 19th century, but they were usually recorded anyway in these families. One wonders if perhaps those " left out" names belonged to family members with whom the parents had fallen out at the time the children were born. William and Lavinia's children were b. between 1804 and 1830 and James and Rebecca's, between 1813 and 1840. Interesting anyway Regards. Steph Powell Cecil stephaxi@mindspring.com

    01/16/2005 06:50:03
    1. Re: [POWELL] Re: POWELL-D Digest V05 #7
    2. Ellen L Martin
    3. The Patterns are seldom followed with absolute certainty, especially after the first 3 or 4 children but it is helpful to find that some semblance of a pattern is duplicated amongst siblings families and generations. It shows, at the very least, that certain families may be related. Another name that frequently shows up is that of a deceased sibling and/or aunt/uncle -- honoring such a relative, particularly one who died young, can throw the traditional naming pattern off, but it may also help arrange the earlier generation, indicate approximate date of death etc. Different ethnic groups adhere to somewhat different patterns and traditions. The common names like John, William, Elizabeth, Mary, Sarah etc. frequently appear in both the father's and the mother's family so that it would have been impossible to adhere strictly to the pattern without repeating the same name several times within the "new" family. Even though both maternal and paternal grandfathers are named John, we are not likely to see the two eldest sons both named John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Cecil" <stephaxi@mindspring.com> To: <POWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [POWELL] Re: POWELL-D Digest V05 #7 > Wayne and others....please note that these "Naming Patterns" were NOT > absolute... > Consider this family of mine..... I am descended from the second of TWO > brothers.... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1.James R/S McMullen [1760-1794 son of William and > Margaret "Nancy"] > m. Sarah Vick [ 1762- 1842 d/o Benjamin and Mary ] > ....2. William [1742-1847]m. Lavinia Fain [1787-1858, d/o > Thomas and Mary] their issue...... > 3.Mary [ mother's mom and father's grandmom.] > 3.James [father's dad and only brother] > 3.John ? > 3.Sarah [father's mom] > 3.Rebecca [ mother's sister? see below] > 3. Elijah ? > 3. William [ Father and mother's brother] > 3. Elizabeth [mother's oldest sister] > 3. Nancy [father's grandmom and mother's sister] > 3. Luvenia [ Mother] > 3. Thomas [mother's father and brother] > 3. Noah [?] > > ...2. James [1788-1862] m. Rebecca Fain[1793-1858 d/o > Thomas and Mary] their issue > 3. Martha [?] > 3. William [father's and mother's brothers] > 3. Thomas [mother's father] > 3. Lavincia [mother's sister?] > 3. Mary [mother's mother and father's grandmom] > 3. James [Father and HIS father] > 3. Daniel [?] > 3. Sarah [father's mother] > 3. Lavinia [ mother's sister] > 3. John [?] > 3. David [?] > 3. Malcolm Laurence [ ?. my ggrandpa] > 2. Sarah [1790-1827] m. Henry Marshall > These three were the only children of James R/S[revolutionary soldier] > and > Sarah McMullen. He died young in an accident. > > Thomas R/S Fain did have brothers named John and David and James R/ S > McMullen had a brother named Eli, maybe Elijah.? but I cannot find a > "Martha , a Daniel, a Noah a Malcolm nor a Laurence" anywhere and ,as > you > see , the naming pattern is somewhat irregular. > > The mother's oldest brother was Matthew and the father's father;s other > brothers were Robert and Nathaniel [no sisters known] and then there is > the > father's mother's father Benjamin Vick??? > Of course ,it is also possible that these names were given to infants who > died which was VERY common in the early 19th century, but they were > usually > recorded anyway in these families. > One wonders if perhaps those " left out" names belonged to family members > with whom the parents had fallen out at the time the children were born. > William and Lavinia's children were b. between 1804 and 1830 and James and > Rebecca's, between 1813 and 1840. > Interesting anyway > Regards. > Steph Powell Cecil stephaxi@mindspring.com > > > ==== POWELL Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

    01/16/2005 09:01:10