This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------95A82D3F1D68689B67D82E29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You didn't sign your name, but it seems like we have at least 2 lines in common - Posey and Pratt. Who were your Posey ancestors and who were your Pratts? Emma Gene Gentry Lcky2888@cs.com wrote: > Thank-You for getting on your soap box. I myself have been gathering > information on my family not just the Poseys but the Pratts and from time to > time I try to comfirm my information and until I'm as positive as I can be > the infromation will not be made public as I have found alot of information > out there there doen't fit and when I go to find documation at the place or > birth or marriage there are no records not even in the census. I think some > of get to excited at the idea of who our family might be as opposed to who > they really are -- Emma Gene Gentry <hgentry@inetport.com> Austin, Texas --------------95A82D3F1D68689B67D82E29 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="hgentry.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Emma Gene Gentry Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="hgentry.vcf" begin:vcard n:;Emma Gene (Seale) Gentry x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 fn:Emma Gene (Seale) Gentry end:vcard --------------95A82D3F1D68689B67D82E29--

HERE HERE HELEN (THATS MY NAME TOO)

I don't know about the grand family. I heard my Posey were either part or all indian and thats harder to verify and find out since most times no one in the middle to late 1800's wanted to admit they were indians if they could help it.

Thank-You for getting on your soap box. I myself have been gathering information on my family not just the Poseys but the Pratts and from time to time I try to comfirm my information and until I'm as positive as I can be the infromation will not be made public as I have found alot of information out there there doen't fit and when I go to find documation at the place or birth or marriage there are no records not even in the census. I think some of get to excited at the idea of who our family might be as opposed to who they really are

Lcky2888@cs.com wrote: > I don't know about the grand family. I heard my Posey were either part or all > indian and thats harder to verify and find out since most times no one in the > middle to late 1800's wanted to admit they were indians if they could help it. I can only imagine the research difficulties with that one. Good luck. And it is nice to hear that not everyone has been subjected to the Poschet fairy tale!<g> There's hope yet for building a factual Posey history!!! Michael

Another vote for documenting but I also think it is important to not ignore the controversies for our surname lines when we are writing about them. I want future folks who read my Posey stuff to know about the myths, their apparent origins, and why we believe they are myths, so I they run into the material elsewhere down the line, they are already on alert AND if they've already added the mystical generations to their database, maybe they'll rethink it before they pass on the misinformation. I have 4 other lines with similar great old stories, a couple of "leap-of-faith" connections to 2 different Vice-presidents, etc. etc. I don't ignore any of them but try to discuss it so any newcomer will no be led too far astray. Gretchen Kohl [Alameda,CA] - GKohlFamly@aol.com

I don't have any problems with soap boxes. I really don't care who turns out to be the father of my Richard Posey. I just want some real evidence and not someone who has assumed something. just because they were in the state at the same time doesn't make them brothers or parents. helen

"Fredric Z. Saunders" wrote: > I think it is valuable for everyone from time to time to review basic genealogical standards. --snip-- > I'll get off my soapbox now. > > Rick Saunders NO need to apologize for your stint on the soapbox in Posey research circles. There is not place it is needed more! Posey history has been so badly mistreated by irresponsible people that if the true story is ever told, half the family won't believe it because it doesn't include the grand Poschet fairy tale! And I not ashamed at all about being on that soapbox! Michael Allison

Helen, Do you have a bit more info on John Posey? My grandfather was John Posey. Thanks, Linda LBoggs1222@aol.com

Can any one tell me the children of John Posey and Ann Ford? Helen at <cpygmy1@mon-cre.net>

I would love to read the article. Can you post it to the list? Pat in Texas

I think it is valuable for everyone from time to time to review basic genealogical standards. See some guidelines from the National Genealogical Society at: http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/main/body_frame.html and then click on Genealogical Standards, and then on Standards For Use of Technology in Genealogical Research. Considering the proliferation of undocumented records and misinformation regarding the early POSEY generations passed around, I find the ninth point about personally verifying information or noting it as unverified before passing it on to others very pertinent to POSEY. There are also newly releaed (May 2000) guidelines for anyone who has webpages on the Internet. I'll get off my soapbox now. Rick Saunders http://pweb.netcom.com/~fzsaund/posey.html

on 6/12/00 5:31 AM, MarieCSW@aol.com at MarieCSW@aol.com wrote: > Dear Friends, > The Fairfax bunch are probably the Cpt. John Posey and the > John Price Posey who are living in Fairfax during the Rev. Period. They are > the ones that the famous General Thomas Posey descends from. John Price may > be Thomas's brother, Cpt. John Posey definately his father. And the Thomas > Posey in Augusta County, VA is Gen. Posey. Don't know whether he was a > general yet, but he lived there before going on to KY and VA and finally > Indiana and Illinois to die in Shawneetown, Illinois about 1818. He was > buried in the "Old" Westwood Cemetery in Shawneetown. He had been the Indian > agent there just before he died. Before that Governor of KY and then Indiana. > Posey County in southwestern Illinois is named after him. There is a good > book about this bunch of Posey's by a Posey (can't remember the first name > off the top of my head, but all good genealogy collections should have it. It > is called "General Thomas Posey" or something like that. > I had occasion to research the Fairfax County Posey's in line > with my research of my Rigg family who (I think) followed them from Charles > County, MD to Fairfax County, VA about the time of the Rev. War. Cpt. John > Posey was successful there in politics and a buddy of George Washington for a > while. Later, when Posey's debts mounted, Old George claimed all of his > property for a "song", > namely Dogue Run, at the southern part of what is now the Mount Vernon > properties. > I have a great article called the "Improvident Ferryman of Mount Vernon: Cpt. > John Posey" for anyone interested. > Charlotte Rigg Nugent > I would be extremely interested in the article. Would you send it to me?

on 6/12/00 2:42 PM, Emma Gene Gentry at hgentry@inetport.com wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------B75EE398A04534D1CC08C9D1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Charlotte, I'm interested. Do you need my snail mail address? Many years ago > when I was beginning genealogical research, I was reading census for Posey > Co., > IN (I think you meant to say Indiana instead of Illinois). My husband's > Whipple > family lived in Posey Co., IN. An older lady who was also reading census told > me > that she originally came from Posey Co., IN, and that "everyone" there knew > that > Gen. Posey, for whom the county was named, was really the son of George > Washington. Since then I have seen that in print on several occasions, but > does > anyone really know? Thanks. Emma Gene Gentry > > MarieCSW@aol.com wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> The Fairfax bunch are probably the Cpt. John Posey and the >> John Price Posey who are living in Fairfax during the Rev. Period. They are >> the ones that the famous General Thomas Posey descends from. John Price may >> be Thomas's brother, Cpt. John Posey definately his father. And the Thomas >> Posey in Augusta County, VA is Gen. Posey. Don't know whether he was a >> general yet, but he lived there before going on to KY and VA and finally >> Indiana and Illinois to die in Shawneetown, Illinois about 1818. He was >> buried in the "Old" Westwood Cemetery in Shawneetown. He had been the Indian >> agent there just before he died. Before that Governor of KY and then Indiana. >> Posey County in southwestern Illinois is named after him. There is a good >> book about this bunch of Posey's by a Posey (can't remember the first name >> off the top of my head, but all good genealogy collections should have it. It >> is called "General Thomas Posey" or something like that. >> I had occasion to research the Fairfax County Posey's in line >> with my research of my Rigg family who (I think) followed them from Charles >> County, MD to Fairfax County, VA about the time of the Rev. War. Cpt. John >> Posey was successful there in politics and a buddy of George Washington for a >> while. Later, when Posey's debts mounted, Old George claimed all of his >> property for a "song", >> namely Dogue Run, at the southern part of what is now the Mount Vernon >> properties. >> I have a great article called the "Improvident Ferryman of Mount Vernon: Cpt. >> John Posey" for anyone interested. >> Charlotte Rigg Nugent > > -- > Emma Gene Gentry > <hgentry@inetport.com> > Austin, Texas > > > --------------B75EE398A04534D1CC08C9D1 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="hgentry.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Emma Gene Gentry > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="hgentry.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:;Emma Gene (Seale) Gentry > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > fn:Emma Gene (Seale) Gentry > end:vcard > > --------------B75EE398A04534D1CC08C9D1-- > I don't guess there is anyone alive now who would know for sure!!!! Seriously, I have read a couple of versions. The most plausible is that he was the child of George and a barmaid in town. The posey's were friends and George took the child to them for them to raise. Don't guess Martha would have taken to the little guy. At any rate, when John Posey bankrupt, George educated Thomas and his sister. The other version has him the son of George and John's wife. Ann Posey Kelly

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B75EE398A04534D1CC08C9D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charlotte, I'm interested. Do you need my snail mail address? Many years ago when I was beginning genealogical research, I was reading census for Posey Co., IN (I think you meant to say Indiana instead of Illinois). My husband's Whipple family lived in Posey Co., IN. An older lady who was also reading census told me that she originally came from Posey Co., IN, and that "everyone" there knew that Gen. Posey, for whom the county was named, was really the son of George Washington. Since then I have seen that in print on several occasions, but does anyone really know? Thanks. Emma Gene Gentry MarieCSW@aol.com wrote: > Dear Friends, > The Fairfax bunch are probably the Cpt. John Posey and the > John Price Posey who are living in Fairfax during the Rev. Period. They are > the ones that the famous General Thomas Posey descends from. John Price may > be Thomas's brother, Cpt. John Posey definately his father. And the Thomas > Posey in Augusta County, VA is Gen. Posey. Don't know whether he was a > general yet, but he lived there before going on to KY and VA and finally > Indiana and Illinois to die in Shawneetown, Illinois about 1818. He was > buried in the "Old" Westwood Cemetery in Shawneetown. He had been the Indian > agent there just before he died. Before that Governor of KY and then Indiana. > Posey County in southwestern Illinois is named after him. There is a good > book about this bunch of Posey's by a Posey (can't remember the first name > off the top of my head, but all good genealogy collections should have it. It > is called "General Thomas Posey" or something like that. > I had occasion to research the Fairfax County Posey's in line > with my research of my Rigg family who (I think) followed them from Charles > County, MD to Fairfax County, VA about the time of the Rev. War. Cpt. John > Posey was successful there in politics and a buddy of George Washington for a > while. Later, when Posey's debts mounted, Old George claimed all of his > property for a "song", > namely Dogue Run, at the southern part of what is now the Mount Vernon > properties. > I have a great article called the "Improvident Ferryman of Mount Vernon: Cpt. > John Posey" for anyone interested. > Charlotte Rigg Nugent -- Emma Gene Gentry <hgentry@inetport.com> Austin, Texas --------------B75EE398A04534D1CC08C9D1 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="hgentry.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Emma Gene Gentry Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="hgentry.vcf" begin:vcard n:;Emma Gene (Seale) Gentry x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 fn:Emma Gene (Seale) Gentry end:vcard --------------B75EE398A04534D1CC08C9D1--

Dear Friends, The Fairfax bunch are probably the Cpt. John Posey and the John Price Posey who are living in Fairfax during the Rev. Period. They are the ones that the famous General Thomas Posey descends from. John Price may be Thomas's brother, Cpt. John Posey definately his father. And the Thomas Posey in Augusta County, VA is Gen. Posey. Don't know whether he was a general yet, but he lived there before going on to KY and VA and finally Indiana and Illinois to die in Shawneetown, Illinois about 1818. He was buried in the "Old" Westwood Cemetery in Shawneetown. He had been the Indian agent there just before he died. Before that Governor of KY and then Indiana. Posey County in southwestern Illinois is named after him. There is a good book about this bunch of Posey's by a Posey (can't remember the first name off the top of my head, but all good genealogy collections should have it. It is called "General Thomas Posey" or something like that. I had occasion to research the Fairfax County Posey's in line with my research of my Rigg family who (I think) followed them from Charles County, MD to Fairfax County, VA about the time of the Rev. War. Cpt. John Posey was successful there in politics and a buddy of George Washington for a while. Later, when Posey's debts mounted, Old George claimed all of his property for a "song", namely Dogue Run, at the southern part of what is now the Mount Vernon properties. I have a great article called the "Improvident Ferryman of Mount Vernon: Cpt. John Posey" for anyone interested. Charlotte Rigg Nugent

Dear List, I was browsing through the index to the Virginia Revolutionary "Public" Claims (VA Record Group 48, at the VA State Library) and came across the following names. Most of the public claims were from 1779 to 1781. In most cases they were submitted in 1782. Colonel Posey from Charlotte Co. Humphry Posey from Henry Co. John P. Posey from New Kent Co. John Price Posey from New Kent Co. Thomas Posey from Augusta Co. Thomas Posey from Fairfax Co, John Posie from Orange Co. John P. Possey from King William Co. Can anyone claim them?

Dear Listers Do you ever see the name Pozzie among your queries? My Pozzie was from Italy. Thank You Marjorie in Akron, Ohio marjorie61@Aol.com

Rebecca, Please forgive my slowness in responding to your e-mail. i am usually more efficient but I have experienced a death in my family and this has been my first opportunity to read my mail. I am not sure if this is the same Nehemiah but I am sure it is some kin. There are so many Poseys with the same names and born near the same times with so many records destroyed that it makes it so difficult to connect everyone. I will try to keep you posted on what I find out and you do the same for me. Thanks again , Helen RCFamHist@aol.com wrote: > Helen, > I don't know if this is the same Nehemiah Posey, but I have a census > reference showing a Nehemiah Posey still in Orangeburg Co., SC in 1830 (see > below). I am interested in Nehemiah Posey because he (one of them?) is > involved in a land transaction in Edgefield Co., SC, (1 February 1797) in > which my ancestor Zachariah Posey is one of the witnesses. Nehemiah Posey, > yeoman, is "of Orangeburgh". > > CD#148 1830-1839 US Census Indexes: Mid-Atl., SO, Mid-West (Automated > Archives edition 1994) > Orangeburg Co., SC 1830 POSEY, Nehemiah p.48 Orange Parrish > Orangeburg Co., SC 1830 POSEY, Mark p.48 Orange Parrish > > Rebecca Christensen > > In a message dated 5/12/00 10:39:49 AM CST, cpygmy1@mon-cre.net writes: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I am searching for any information on a Richard and Nehemiah Posey > > from Orangeburgh SC. They are both found living there in 1800 and > > 1810 census. I do not find them listed after this time in SC, > > however I do find both men listed in 1830 and 1840 Montgomery Co., > > AL and in later census records they claim SC as their place of > > birth. Does anyone have any knowledge of the these men in > > Orangeburgh SC ? Is anyone else doing this same research ? > > > > Thanks, > > Helen

nope - got right in - it's a very good place to look at what others are doing - but it's in Ancestors.com. and most of the info is locked behind a $.