Hi Charlotte, The page has moved--try this: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/ There is a Posey section--takes you to Posey queries at GenConnect. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MarieCSW@aol.com> To: <POSEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 5:41 AM Subject: Re: [POSEY-L] Posey > In a message dated 6/15/00 11:14:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > swarren2@prodigy.net writes: > > << http://www.nyx.net/~damorgan/rodgers.html > >> > Shirley, I got a Page Not There message when I tried this...what gives? > Charlotte >

In a message dated 6/16/00 7:55:59 PM Central Daylight Time, swarren2@prodigy.net writes: << Isn't she a movie or tv actress? >> Yes. She (Parker Posey) hit the big time as Greg Linnear's girlfriend in You'v e Got Mail. She is known for her indy film work, including quite possibly the funniest movie I've ever seen, Waiting for Guffman. I just checked out her bio and it says she was born in Baltimore; father is Chris. I don't where I heard Miss. Sorry.

There is a Mary L Posey listed in the NAIL files as well as my Mary E but they don't tell you much, you have to send for the files. Then again I have a copy of the 1902 last call and there are alot of stricken from the roll places. so even if they're not there that doesn't mean anything alot of indians didn't regeister because they didn't want anyone to know they were indian back then. I did find looking at the rolls that the indians took everything from Irish to German names and when your doing your famil tree just because the name looks Irish etc. check it out it may not be, thats what makes it so hard to trace. Do you know where your family came from? I started working backwards, my grandfather, than his parents,then his grandparents sometimes you can find out things that way. My ggrandmother lived in ND but I'm fairly sure she was born in WI (no records of birth back then ).You can usually find out where they were born from the census of the last place you know they were sometimes your luck and get a good listing some states you don't. Anyway it goes this way so far Mary E Posey was born in WI (Marietta a civil town) her father was George Posey IL(Washington middle name ? ) mother was Abra Mongonery Huckions Kielley from OH the thing that I can't figure out is the indians combined tribes to protect themselves when the white man was forcing them to move and Creek indians as well as the other tribes are a mix of tribes. You maybe lucky and have someone in your family remember a little piece of something that can help you connect.If I have any information I'll send it. By the way there was another Mary Posey in ND in 1885 any possability it is connected to your ma?

Hi, Isn't she a movie or tv actress? (You can tell I'm of the 'older' generation). There is probably some background on her on some of the movie/tv sites. Shirley

In a message dated 6/16/00 11:13:55 AM Central Daylight Time, swarren2@prodigy.net writes: << Washington Posey illegitimate son". >> Shirley, After putting this in Google, I noticed something about Parker Posey came up. I wonder where she fits into the Posey family. She is from Mississippi, where "my " Poseys are from. Anybody know? Leslie

Hi Charlotte, I was just interested to see if I could find any information online about this story. It is amazing what there is out there on the internet! There are two search engines that I find useful. They are Google and All The Web. Google is getting so popular that I read where the term "have you googled" was used by someone referring to searching with Google. "All The Web" has an advanced search where you can add conditions to limit the search. I found this information from Google by typing "Washington Posey illegitimate son". Shirley

Hello. Saw your message and would love to trade info with you. My mother was Mary L. Posey, her mother was Sallie F. Johnson. I'm trying to trace this line back to the Creeks. According to info (not completely verfied yet) they were both full blooded Creek Indians. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Linda LBoggs1222@aol.com

Dear Shirley, Thanks so much for the synopsis of the Gen. Thomas Posey book. I think this may very well be the book I take to Europe with me for reading. Great idea!! Thanks so much Shirley. Wherever you go you always offer so much to others, thanks again. Best Always, Your "mdroots-cousin", Charlotte (R-N)

Shirley, I'm interested in looking at the site. Thanks for asking. Sharon Posey Smith

OK how did you get the address or list of the five tribes? My ancestry lists a Bokavar who married a Friend and when he died, married another white man She is said to be Shawnee. I tried writing to them, but no answer. There is some info that she was b. 1700 and died 1764, but not sure of the source.....Would appreciate any help you can give me in tracing an Indian source......Ginnie

Here I am I was told when I was younger that my greatgrandmother was Indian so far I have had no luck in verifying this fact except that there is a Mary E Posey listed with the 5 civilized tribes. Care to trade information?

http://www.nyx.net/~damorgan/rodgers.html

This book is available at Barnes and Noble >From The Publisher Revolutionary War General Thomas Posey (1750-1818) lived his life through one of the most dramatic periods in American history. An advocate of the Revolutionary cause, Posey's military career was highlighted by his participation in the seizure of the fort at Stony Point in 1779 and his role in the defeat of British generals "Gentleman Johnny" Burgoyne and Charles Cornwallis at the Battle of Yorktown in 1781. Following the colonial victory in 1783, Posey played an active role in the development of the Transappalachian West, taking part in local and regional politics in several states and territories. His experiences on the late eighteenth- and early nineteenth-century American frontier were varied and, in a certain sense, extraordinary. Serving as Indian agent in Illinois Territory, as U.S. Senator from Louisiana, as Lieutenant-Governor of Kentucky, and as Governor of Indiana during its transition from territorial status to statehood, he supported and aided in advancement of the young nation. Throughout his lifetime, Posey was personally associated with six presidents, as well as with most national political figures of the era. A sketch of Thomas Posey's childhood in Virginia includes the biographer's speculation on the contrasting influences of his ne'er-do-well father, Captain John Posey, and the family's close friend and neighbor, General George Washington. Finally, the author offers analyses of the popular nineteenth-century speculation that Thomas Posey was George Washington's illegitimate son. In summary, Thomas Posey: Son of the American Revolution presents a fascinating look into life in the newly independent nation. Reviews >From Booknews The subject of this biography, well-known in his time, participated in decisive victories in the Revolution and subsequently served as an Indian agent in Illinois Territory, US Senator from Louisiana, Lieutenant-Governor of Kentucky, and Governor of Indiana during that state's transition from territorial status. An archetypical rugged individualist, he had close relationships with the notables of his time and influence on emerging American domestic and foreign policy. Annotation c. Book News, Inc., Portland, OR (booknews.com) FROM THE BOOK Table of Contents Introduction 1 1 "...born of respectable parentage...."(1750-1774) 5 2 "The glorious cause" (1775-1778) 27 3 "The fort's our own!" (1778-1779) 48 4 "The veracity of Posey was as unquestioned as his courage." (1780-1782) 74 5 "...we are to loose you, perhaps for ever....(1783-1793) 109 6 "...a most amiable wife and sweet little family of children...." (1793-1800) 132 7 "I was not born to riches or... high birth, or great family." (1800-1810) 159 8 "I am not...above shewing an example to my fellow citizens...." (1810-1813) 186 9 "... under your auspices, we have become as one people." (1813-1816) 207 10 "... he knew him and gave him his hand." (1816-1818) 234 App. A: "...being in Company with her revives my former Passion for your Low Land Beauty...." 263 App. B: "The unfortunate and most unhappy John Price Posey".... 278 Select Bibliography 295 Index 309

Dear Posey Folks, I read with interest this controversy mentioned by Rick Sanders and Micheal Allison and others about the "Posey Myths". I had to laugh because it is so similar to the controversy in my Rigg line about the "prevailing myth" around origins. We have/had the "Charles Rigg-and-Mary-Townley-shipboard-romance-story" in our line which goes like this: "Once about a time there was a (read "beautiful") young girl, born into a noble family named Townley, who's given name was Mary. One day, while riding her horse on the grounds of the (read "vast") Townley estate, her horse ran away with her. A (read "handsome") commoner named Charles Rigg, who lived in her "shire", and was riding through the woods that day, saw the runaway horse and the (read "damsel in distress") stopped the runaway. Thus Charles and Mary met and romance blossomed. Because of Charles's class status, Mary's father, Sir John Townley, disapproved of the romance and forbid them to marry. Charles Rigg and Mary Townley ran away to America, in opposition to the father's wishes. They were married onboard ship and the records were listed in a courthouse near the shore where they landed. The courthouse, unfortunately, burned,leaving no record of this marriage. They settled in (Virginia) and raised a "large family of boys". Mary Townley named her first son, Townley, after her surname." An early ancestor of mine in the Rigg line is Townley Rigg. As it turns out, Townley's father and mother are Thomas Rigg and Mary Peel of Charles County, Maryland. As it turns out, they are related to a long string of Thomas Riggs that stretch back in Charles County to maybe as early as 'ante 1675" or before. We have still not found the "Townley connection" yet, but there are Townley connections in early Charles County in the period we are looking at. Up until recently, almost everybody in the Rigg genealogical research circles believed this myth. Myself and a few others had our suspicions and continued to try to "bust this myth". It so clearly looked to me like a fairy tale. If I have a chance this weekend, I will tell my story of how I believe this myth devolped and the hold it took in the family. I understand Rick's frustrations only too well. It has taken all the time we have since we found the new material to make a dent in this myth. My guess is that it is still on a number of web sites. The story of how it devoloped is more interesting than the tale itself, I think. All the best, Charlotte Rigg Nugent

MarieCSW@aol.com wrote: > Dear Posey Folks, > I read with interest this controversy mentioned by Rick Sanders > and Micheal Allison and others about the "Posey Myths". I had to laugh > because it is so similar to the controversy in my Rigg line about the > "prevailing myth" around origins. We have/had the "Charles > Rigg-and-Mary-Townley-shipboard-romance-story" in our line which goes like > this: > What a hoot! Thanks. LOL! Michael

Dear Posey Friends, I'm not sure. I do have some records indicating he was married to her, but how that came about, or exactly WHICH John Posey it was, I'm not sure. If you will email me at "mariecsw@aol.com" I will look at my material this weekend and try to figure it out. Charlotte Rigg Nugent

Dear Friends on the Posey line: I have read the research on that, the ones I read didn't think that Thomas WAS the son of old George, but you never know? I will send stuff but suggest that you email me after I come back from my trip abroad, about July 19 or so. I am overwhelmed with trip plans now...just don't think I'll be able to get to it before. Thanks, Charlotte Rigg Nugent or mariecsw@aol.com

Thanks for the site. Will look into it! Paula

I would be most interested in hearing from anyone who has Posey family that claims to be Indian, part Indian, some Indian, or a wanna-be Indian! I am having a verrrrry difficult time placing my gg-g/mother with any Posey line! Thanks to all! Paula Lee

PSLeegal@aol.com wrote: > I would be most interested in hearing from anyone who has Posey family that > claims to be Indian, part Indian, some Indian, or a wanna-be Indian! I am > having a verrrrry difficult time placing my gg-g/mother with any Posey line! > > Thanks to all! > Paula Lee Did you notice the lengthy discussion of POSEY / Native American on the Posey Genforum. Take a look. Quite a number of Posey apparently interested in or trying to establish Native American lines. See: Posey Genforum at: http://genforum.genealogy.com/posey/ good luck! Michael