Gee Whiz JH post it - us Posey's would love to compare it

Not in what I've collected. Sorry. J.H.

do you have any WV Poseys?

Can you tell me where I might post the information I've collected while searching for my Posey line? It's lot of different kinds of things, like census, land, etc. Maybe someone can use it. It's no good to me, anymore. Looking forward to hearing from you. J.H.

I found these in Genforum under the POSEY surname list. Rev. Humphrey Posey's childrens names - Hannah Bailey Foust 2/17/00 Does anyone have the names a birthdates of Humphrey and Lettie Jolly Posey's children ten children? I had a nice article on Humphrey and his life with all of the information included but I have mis-placed it. Thanks in advance. Hannah Bailey Foust tnnonnie@webtv.net Re: Rev. Humphrey Posey's childrens names - jack 4/09/00 iknow one girl cecila victoria posey born 1814 in nc married george crone moved to ala then ark then tex if you have anything more email me thanks jack --- Winnie Brooks <wab@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > Posted on: Posey Queries > From: "Catherine Drevas" <WildHorse002@webtv.net> > Reply Here: > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Posey/164 > > Surname: Posey, Davis > ------------------------- > > > > Hello, I'm Hoping to find the decendents of Rev. > Humphrey Posey and his > wife Lettice Jolly. Why? I am looking for my > grandmother Freida Or Frederica > Posey, She married Joseph Davis and had 8 children, > My Mother Martha Davis > was the oldest girl and She MArried George Drevas. I > hope someone will > help me for i am limited on what I can do with webtv > and funds. > Thank You!!!!! > > > > > ===== Joe Crouse jwcnky@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

JH, please post your information here. I am sure it will help someone here and at least it will be archived in the email archives. By the way, if I may ask, which POSEY line are you from? That may help someone too. Jerry Vernon ----- Original Message ----- From: <Esims4@aol.com> To: <POSEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 10 January, 2001 19:43 Subject: [POSEY-L] Posey File > Can you tell me where I might post the information I've collected while > searching for my Posey line? It's lot of different kinds of things, like > census, land, etc. Maybe someone can use it. It's no good to me, anymore. > Looking forward to hearing from you. > J.H. > >

Posted on: Posey Queries From: "Catherine Drevas" <WildHorse002@webtv.net> Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Posey/164 Surname: Posey, Davis ------------------------- Hello, I'm Hoping to find the decendents of Rev. Humphrey Posey and his wife Lettice Jolly. Why? I am looking for my grandmother Freida Or Frederica Posey, She married Joseph Davis and had 8 children, My Mother Martha Davis was the oldest girl and She MArried George Drevas. I hope someone will help me for i am limited on what I can do with webtv and funds. Thank You!!!!!

oddly enough, I have a Sarah Ann Posey in my family file. However, she cant be yours as she was born in 1824 the daughter of Edward Posey, Jr. and Catherine Skinner. They were from Braxton County. ginnie

On March 17, 1828, in Hampshire Co, WV (then VA), one William Posey posted bond for a marriage contract between one Sarah Ann Posey and one Hiram Pickering. My great-great-great grandfather Hiram Pickering lived and died in that county, but censuses give his wife's name as Sophia. Census ages suggest the birth year of the eldest child in his household was 1832, but the next eldest wasn't born until 1838. Hiram would have been about 25 in 1828, so let's presume this Sarah was born somewhere around 1810, give or take about five years. Does anyone know this lady, or whether the marriage was ever completed? Researching these 8 greats: Pickering-Snyder-Roach-Teegardin-Hodges-Evans-Kantner-Shifflet + these contributing Pickering/Snyder lines: Orndorff-Kinsey-Beall And, of course, many more! HAPPY HUNTING! Kurt Pickering La Vergne, TN _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Where is this site? My computer probably erased the message it was on -- I am only 600+ behind in my reading. In a message dated 10/6/00 12:10:01 AM, SharonS639@aol.com writes: << Shirley, thanks for the George Washington site...it was really interesting! I was able to print images of actual letters and read transciptions of them. Sharon Posey Smith ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <POSEY-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.33]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Fri, 06 Oct 2000 03:10:01 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Fri, 06 Oct 2000 03:09:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e9679XD01689; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:09:33 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:09:33 -0700 X-Original-Sender: SharonS639@aol.com Fri Oct 6 00:09:32 2000 From: SharonS639@aol.com Message-ID: <73.766c288.270ed4a8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 03:09:28 EDT Subject: Re: [POSEY-L] George Washington & Posey Old-To: POSEY-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 108 Resent-Message-ID: <ELmvsC.A.4Z.tqX35@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: POSEY-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: POSEY-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: POSEY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <POSEY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/880 X-Loop: POSEY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: POSEY-L-request@rootsweb.com >>

Thanks, Karen Fieldstad, for your timely post! I've not been able to visit the cemetery at County Line Christian Church, though I don't live too far from Brooks, Georgia, but I have long wished to do so, for several reasons. Thanks to the information that you've added by your visit, I think that I can now identify the people in your list. James Posey (b. 5 Mar 1813; d. 28 Mar 1906) was identified by his 2nd great grandson, John Posey Spencer Woods, in Lloyd Posey's book; he was identified as James D. Posey, son of Rev. Humphrey Posey (b. 12 Jan 1780; d. 28 Dec 1846) and Lettice Jolly (b. abt. 1782; d. 22 Jun 1842). Elizabeth Ann Posey (b. 3 Nov 1822; d. 4 Apr 1882) was the wife of James D. Posey. Rev. Humphrey Posey was a famous Baptist missionary among the Cherokee Indians (a copy of his biography may be found in rare books collection at Woodruff Library of Emory University, Atlanta, GA); I believe that he was the son of Francis Posey and Mary Kimzey, of Buncombe County, NC, and the grandson of Thomas Shuttleworth Posey and Elizabeth Ratcliff. Since other sources have indicated that the children of James D. Posey and his wife Elizabeth Ann were also buried in the cemetery of County Line Christian Church, circumstantial evidence strongly suggests that Jessie George Posey (b. 2 Mar 1848; d. 24 Jan 1922) was their son; Ida Jones Posey (b. 24 Nov 1856; d. 20 Jan 1945) was the wife of Jessie George Posey. Carl Posey (b. 10 Dec 1880; d. 3 Dec 1955) and Grover Posey (b. 8 Aug 1885; d. 8 Oct 1943) were both sons of Jessie George Posey and Ida Jones Posey. Clara Mask Posey (b. 20 Oct 1890; d. 2 Oct 1978) was the wife of Grover Posey. Emma Clara Mask Posey was also a distant Posey cousin to her husband Grover Posey. She was the 2nd great granddaughter of John Chambers, Jr., and Martha Frances Posey Chambers. I would be very interested in corresponding with descendants of James D. and Elizabeth Ann Posey, and most especially with descendants of Grover Posey and Emma Clara Mask Posey. I would also be glad to hear from anyone with an interest in the family of Rev. Humphrey Posey. Thanks again to Karen for your unselfish contribution to Posey family history. Sincerely, Rev. Richard M. Rodgers Decatur, GA -----Original Message----- From: Karen Fieldstad [mailto:KarenFieldstad@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 3:56 PM To: POSEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [POSEY-L] Posey Burials, Fayette Co GA I was driving by this church and noticed a few Posey headstones so I stopped and wrote down the information. I don't know who these people are but thought someone else might be interested. County Line Christain Church, Brooks, Georgia, by the Fayette/Spalding County Line. These five were together: Grover Posey b.August 8, 1885 d. October 8, 1943 Clara Mask Posey b.October 20, 1890 d. October 2, 1978 Ida Jones Posey b. November 24, 1856 d. January 20, 1945 Jessie George Posey b. May 2, 1848 d. January 24, 1922 Carl Posey b. December 10, 1880 d. December 3, 1955 These two were buried together: James Posey b. March 5, 1813 d. March 28, 1906 Elizabeth Ann Posey b. November 3, 1822 d. April 4, 1882

Posted on: Posey Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Posey/160 Surname: ------------------------- My Dearest Carolyn, I had spoken with one of your husband's cousins in TX who is a land lawyer several years ago. He stated you still could sue the Hays County Hypocrites for the land grant and get information on DB Posey in that manner. He stated you would never be able to acquire any property since they would O.J. you to death. Supposedly this could be done on many properties including downtown San Marcos. The DB Posey Land Scam free ranch property is located on RR 12 one mile west of San Marcos directly across from the San Marcos Baptist Academy. The eastern fence of this property is straight across RR 12 from the Academy entrance and the western boundary is a high fence which is unmistakable. A black water tank is located along the highway halfway across the property. The entrance gate bears a small yellow sign reading Freeman Ranch which is Southwest Texas State University. I think you should bear in mind most of the courthouse records have probably been sabotaged by local Baptists. Pretty sad isn't it. I guess the New York Times would love this one. Battling Baptists sue each other over historical information long kept silent. Actually, these people have known who DB Poseys descendants were for decades and kept quite about it. If a prize bull shows up in your pasture then by all means keep quite and don't tell the owners you have it. There are those in San Marcos who would like to say something about this but are scared too. Why are they scared Carolyn? Because they fear retaliation from powerful local gentry who are Good Christians. Yes Good Christians are people who move into an area and slaughter the local inhabitants and then like good little hypocrites set up a system where stealing, lying, and killing are not acceptable unless you are a member of the upper class. These are the same type people who would have a President killed on a crisp autumn day and set beside you in church the following Sunday and tell you how much they love Jesus. The appearance of looking good is all that matters. The DB Posey Land Scam was such a method to look good in the eyes of the populace and many local residents actually believed this garbage. So why won't the Good Christians give you any information and look down upon you like trash. SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CAN. It's a power thing. If your husband were a member of the James River Country Club he would already have this requested information. It's really sad but due to the DB Posey Land Scam you may never get any factual information on your ancestor aside from what your local family already had. Even if the Texans gave you some info - how do you know it's true? In the process of stealing his land grant how much information was destroyed, hidden, or lost forever? It's sad but Captain Posey was omitted from history due to greed. The Good Christians from San Marcos have in their possession an oil painting of Captain DB Posey. How do you know this artwork actually resembles your husband's ancestor or was just part of the Land Scam Giveaway? They may have wanted to ask someone is this what your ancestor looked like when in reality they have no idea what he looked like themselves. The Captain Posey in the painting had long flowing black hair down to his shoulders and much resembled a pirate much like Lafitte. The only resemblance to your husband's family was his Aaron Oscar Posey like nose. Then again, Lyndon Baines Johnson had a similar nose so this really doesn't mean anything does it? Next time on Hays County History we will discuss the first ten days your husband's cousin spent in San Marcos back in 1988. Should be an interesting lesson in Posey History. Until then, please ponder over the following information. Lie #1 Anybody who can prove he is descended from Captain DB Posey will be given a free ranch. Lie #2 His name is not David - his Christian name was DB. Lie #3 He didn't fight in the Texas Revolution he was just an ole indian fighter. Lie #4 In 1988 one of your husband's cousins asked SWTSU officials for information on DB Posey and they said they had none - that was just an ole legend around town. But if he could prove he was descended from DB Posey they would give him a free ranch. He offered documentation of descent from David Berryhill Posey but University officials declined to view this material. How would you like it if someone said you were descended from a warrior and refused to give you any info on him? And Besides * How can one determine if one is descended from Captain Posey if you aint got no info on him?* If they had no info on him then how did they know he fought in the Grass Fight and was born in 1805? Sincerely, Dago Bear

I was driving by this church and noticed a few Posey headstones so I stopped and wrote down the information. I don't know who these people are but thought someone else might be interested. County Line Christain Church, Brooks, Georgia, by the Fayette/Spalding County Line. These five were together: Grover Posey b.August 8, 1885 d. October 8, 1943 Clara Mask Posey b.October 20, 1890 d. October 2, 1978 Ida Jones Posey b. November 24, 1856 d. January 20, 1945 Jessie George Posey b. May 2, 1848 d. January 24, 1922 Carl Posey b. December 10, 1880 d. December 3, 1955 These two were buried together: James Posey b. March 5, 1813 d. March 28, 1906 Elizabeth Ann Posey b. November 3, 1822 d. April 4, 1882

Dear Charlotte & other Posey researchers, A lot of bad history has been written about the relationship between my ancestor Capt. John Posey and George Washington. Unlike many other researchers, I do not believe that Capt. Posey was incompetent, nor do I believe that Washington was necessarily either a hero or a villain in this piece of history. In fairness both to Capt. Posey and to Washington, I thought that a few notes of clarification might be in order here: 1. John Price Posey was the son of Capt. John Posey, and Washington had few kind words for Price Posey. Some people (though not necessarily Charlotte or others reading this thread) have confused the two. 2. Capt. John Posey was the owner of only a small parcel of the Posey property which eventually became a part of Mount Vernon (more about this in 5. below); Capt. Posey was also the person to whom Washington lent large sums of money. George Mason also lent Capt. Posey large sums, but there is no evidence that he did so in order to gain possession of Capt. Posey's real estate. 3. It is perhaps worthwhile to note that Capt. Posey acted as Washington's agent for several land purchases. Many of these transactions happened after Capt. Posey's bankruptcy. 4. Washington fell out with John Price Posey because Price Posey took Washington's place as manager of the Custis estate when Washington's stepson, John Parke Custis, came of age. Price Posey and John Parke "Jackie" Custis had been close friends since childhood, and Washington had no confidence in the management abilities of either Price Posey or Jackie Custis. The Custis estate was, at the time, the largest personal estate in VA, perhaps in America. Therefore, it would be fairer to say, not that Washington was the largest landholder in America, but rather that he, as trustee for his stepchildren, had managed the Custis estate, which was the largest estate, etc. 5. Washington definitely wanted the Posey property in Fairfax County, VA, but it should be remembered that Capt. Posey's home there, "Rover's Delight," was not owned by Capt. Posey outright. Most of the land at "Rover's Delight" was in fact owned by Capt. Posey's second wife by right of dower. When she died, her portion of the property reverted to her late husband's family (she was the widow of George Harrison when she married Capt. Posey), and it was from that family that Washington ultimately purchased the real estate in question. 6. There is ample evidence that the death of Capt. Posey's second wife, combined with a wheat blight which ruined many farmers in the vicinity, was what caused Capt. Posey's financial ruin. The wheat blight almost certainly had a negative impact on Capt. Posey's income, but it was the loss of the Fairfax County property to the Harrison heirs that left him with insufficient property to repay his debts. (By the way, Washington noted in his journal his own losses on account of this wheat blight, and except for his other sources of income, he might have suffered a fate similar to that of so many of neighbors who were not so well off.) 7. Though Capt. Posey was definitely in financial trouble, the records indicate that it was he himself, and not Fairfax County officials, who advertised the auction of his properties. Therefore, it is fair to say that he took charge of the situation himself, and since there were no subsequent legal actions taken against him, we must conclude that he voluntarily settled his debts before he was forced to do so. I hope that these points will help to clear the air concerning Capt. John Posey's relationship with George Washington. The evidence that they were long-time friends far outweighs any evidence that Washington might have engineered Capt. Posey's downfall. Nevertheless, it is true that Washington did ultimately profit from Capt. Posey's loss. I am simply unable to find any real evidence that this was Washington's ulterior motive when he lent money to Posey, since I believe that Washington knew full well who actually owned the property in question. Best wishes to all, Rev. Richard M. Rodgers -----Original Message----- From: MarieCSW@aol.com [mailto:MarieCSW@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 7:53 AM To: POSEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POSEY-L] George Washington & Posey Dear Posey Researchers, I have my doubts about this relationship. History paints a bad picture of Posey, but George Washington benefited greatly from Posey's demise. The whole southern end of Mount Vernon on the Potomac was originally Posey's property("Dogue Run"), although the Washington family had originally owned it. Posey bought it from Charles Washington I think. At any rate, Old George was determined to get that property back. He kept lending Posey money long after everyone else knew that Posey was getting deeper and deeper into debt and had stopped lending to him. History has painted it as George's benevolence with his old friend, but I have my suspicions. George Washington didn't become the largest land holder in North America by 1799 by being a total "good guy". And BTW, lots of people were in Posey's positions during those years just before and just after the revolution. There were economic hardships and lots of what we call "recession" and "depression". Lots of landholders lost their shirts and their lands and ended up in debt and debtors prison, which was really easy to do in those times. So Old George let Posey get into him so deep for money that the only solution, short of jail, was to sell his land at auction (way below the "market price") and then guess who snapped it up for a song? None other than old George Washington. Very interesting history. I have some articles on it. If you remind me at regular intervals, I'll send....have to be a few weeks or months from now. best, Charlotte Rigg Nugent

Dear Posey Researchers, I have my doubts about this relationship. History paints a bad picture of Posey, but George Washington benefited greatly from Posey's demise. The whole southern end of Mount Vernon on the Potomac was originally Posey's property("Dogue Run"), although the Washington family had originally owned it. Posey bought it from Charles Washington I think. At any rate, Old George was determined to get that property back. He kept lending Posey money long after everyone else knew that Posey was getting deeper and deeper into debt and had stopped lending to him. History has painted it as George's benevolence with his old friend, but I have my suspicions. George Washington didn't become the largest land holder in North America by 1799 by being a total "good guy". And BTW, lots of people were in Posey's positions during those years just before and just after the revolution. There were economic hardships and lots of what we call "recession" and "depression". Lots of landholders lost their shirts and their lands and ended up in debt and debtors prison, which was really easy to do in those times. So Old George let Posey get into him so deep for money that the only solution, short of jail, was to sell his land at auction (way below the "market price") and then guess who snapped it up for a song? None other than old George Washington. Very interesting history. I have some articles on it. If you remind me at regular intervals, I'll send....have to be a few weeks or months from now. best, Charlotte Rigg Nugent

Shirley, yes Gen. Washington was really put out with John Price Posey. I wonder if this is the same one that was jailed because he didn't keep his word? I have the details on that at home and I'm in NE right now. What a character! Sharon

Posted on: Posey Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Posey/159 Surname: ------------------------- My dearest Caroyln, I am the spirit of your husband's dead ancestor. I have come back to haunt those who have mistreated my descendants. My name is not David - IT'S DB. You can just call me Dago Bear. I notice your husband has not received his free ranch in San Marcos and those bad boys wont give you any information. It's OK for them not to give any info on DB because a dead President declared it was OK not to. I might add that President was very fond of melanics. Texas state Archives Microlfilm 1184 had clearly been forged with a marxalot sometime in late 1999 or early 2000. If you would like to see what the original signature looked look I'll be glad to forward that to you. Oh what a Spenserian nightmare! First of all, I think you should understand Texans love a Lie. The bigger the tale is the more they love it. The great lie here is that someone is going to give away a ranch worth millions to anyone who can prove descent from DB Posey. If there ever was anything true said about the DB Posey legend it must have been by Mr. Lloyd Posey Sr. who stated - "Aint nobody gonna give you some property. Dont you ever let somebody tell you they gonna give you some property. I know you think its pretty out there but you stay away from them people. That's just a scam designed to make somebody look good and cover up sompun that happened long ago." If you would like, we can discuss some items in my forthcoming book "Blood on the Bluebonnets Volume II : The Hays County Hypocrites." Here we can travel back to 1973 & 1974 and learn of a Baptist preacher associated with the San Marcos Baptist Academy who used a child as a go-between to forward false information and encite to anger Mr. Lloyd Posey, Sr. of Rayville, LA. "The pastor said his name wasn't David-it was DB. He didnt fight with a calvary unit in the Tex. Rev. this man was just an old indian fighter." We can discuss direct quotes from San Marcos finest with one of your husband's cousins. Such as: "You need to stop telling people you are descended from David Posey." and classroom quotes from a Southwest Texas State University professor like: " You are not saved. You need to be baptized. Dont you let that devil tell you to lie to me. You arent't descended from DB Posey are you? That name Lloyd runs in your family line. Well, I don't give a damn if you are descended from George Washington I'm gonna bust your ass." "We don't like people from Louisiana. I thought you were a Texas Posey. If I had known you were from LA I would never have let you on my ranch. You are not welcome here in San Marcos. I think you are hunting for something. You aren't descended from DB Posey are you?" We can also discuss tales from Mattie Crider Posey such as: "An David Posey's father's name was David also. His nickname was DB. One day yore gr-gr-great granddeddy DB got on his horse and rode off to Texas. Yes he did. An he killed many Indians. He had a passion for killing Indians. He was a Captain in the Revolution. An thar's a sprang out there, the biggest sprang you've ever seen." Well, I've run out of room here. If you would like to here more tales of DB (not David) Posey and the You Can't Do It - Oh but I Can Believers then by all means just say so. Sincerely, Dago Bear

Posted on: Posey Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Posey/158 Surname: posey ------------------------- I am a direct descendant of Capt.D.B.Posey (a.k.a. David Berryhill Posey in La.). I have examined only a few Texas documents,but they were sufficient to confirm that Capt.D.B. Posey of Texas and David Berryhill Posey of Catahoula and Franklin Parishes in La. are one and the same. There are numerous documents in the courthouses of the above parishes bearing D.B.'s signature. I can recall one in particular that I deemed to be a copy or a forgery.I suppose it is possible that a court recorder made a copy of the original document and filed the copy. For some reason, there seem to be some documents unavailable in Texas.For instance, where is D.B.'s certificate of character(passport)?It is indeed strange that the Indiana branch of the family remains silent regarding Capt. D.B.Posey. Our family's oral tradition says that he was from Indiana.

Posted on: Posey Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Posey/152 Surname: Posey ------------------------- Mr. Posey: My husband is descended from David Berryhill Posey (D.B. Posey) of Franklin Parish, Louisiana. He and his relatives would be interested in any information you can provide concerning Capt. D. B. Posey. D. B. Posey from Franklin Parish, Louisiana was friends with the Jim Bowie Family and he seems to have followed the Bowies around wherever they went. As far as we know, he is the same D. B. Posey that signed up in Nagdoches, Texas, fought in the Texas Revolution and received property in Bryan, Texas which he later sold. How are you connected with this man? We would appreciate it very much if you would get in touch with us. We have copies of old documents that he signed in Franklin Parish. Could you explain the signatures made with a marxalot that are appearing on archive microfilm and courthouse records.