Hi Tina, I didn't think abouot getting a guarantee, but I had only planned to give the documents signed by the priest, not the original, but copies. If that would not have been enough I guess they would be out of luck, it took me two years and tons of searching in every church in Allentown, and Onedia county, NY. If it weren't for almost the last priest in Allentown who suggested several churches in NY I would probably still be looking. Don't have time this AM to search your suggested sight, can't wait until this afternoon. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > Barbara, > > What guarantee do they give you that they will return these same two > documents to you. I wonder if they woudl accept notorized copies of them. > Are the two records you have notorized. Back in those times, the midwives > would not file the records and keep the filing fee they received from the > parents of a newborn child. This may be that type of situation. > > Go to http://www.stevemorse.org. In the spot where you put in a town name > type in Nozdrzec. Click on Search. You will get a list of 53 people from > that village who came to the US. You may have many more family members > from > there in the US. > > There is a Walenty Toczak listed form Nozdrzec at this site. He went to > Allentown in 1912. > > The 1925 Slownik Geograficzny show that Dynow is only 7 kilometers from > Nozdrzec. Was he born in Nozdrzec or did he live there before leaving for > the US? > > Tina > > > On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Tina, >> I did give wrong information, he did go to a br. (I read "in law") in >> Styles, Pa. I have the baptism record from Poland and he definetely was >> born in 1884. Also, he was also from the same town (Nozdrzec) as my >> grandmother, although my dad always said they didn't know one another >> there. >> The town was spelled incorectly on both manifests. I am positive of the >> town and the birth dates of both from the information from the church >> there. >> I do have their 1911 marriage document from the church in NY. >> Dad told me his dad always went by three names, Valentinus (from his >> baptism >> and I was told the Latin name) Walenty his Polish name and William his >> American name. >> In 1918 they were living in Cleveland, Ohio where their fourth child was >> born and I have compared the signatures on his petition and also a >> document >> he signed as a wittness to a tragic accident. (sent to me by perhaps a >> very >> distant cousin but we don't know how, a lot of the travel companions seem >> to >> be in weddings and god parents, but we can't make positive connections.) >> so >> I doubt the registration is his. >> It's funny, I have the baptism papers of my dad and his older sister >> saying >> they were born in Rome, NY and when I tried to get their birth >> certificates, >> there is no record, anywhere. They want me to send them the documents so >> they can add them, have you ever heard of anything like this? >> Barbara >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> >> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census >> >> >> > Hello Barbara, >> > >> > The ship manifest shows he was going to the home of his brother Jedrzej >> > Toczek, in Stiles, PA. That is in Lehigh County, PA. In English his >> name >> > translates to Andrew. In Polish, it would be Andrzej. >> > >> > There is a man listed as Andy Toczek living in Fayette, PA, on >> > September >> > 17, >> > 1918 according to his WWI Draft card. This card shows that he was from >> > Austria. >> > >> > There is a draft card for a Walenty Toczek living at 622 N 2nd, >> Allentown. >> > PA. This city is in Lehigh County. He was born May 15, 1890. He was >> > listed >> > as an alien from Austria. He was born in Dynow, Galicia, >> Austria/Hungary. >> > It shows he was still single on June 5, 1917, which is when he >> > completed >> > the >> > card. He was working for American Steel Company in Allentown. Dyno~w >> is >> > in >> > southern Poland, which used to be in Galicia, which was part of the >> > Austro/Hungarian Empire. >> > >> > You can use http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp or >> > http://www.mapa.szukacz.pl to locate Dyno~w. You may be able to find >> some >> > photos of the area by using http://www.google.com and clicking on >> > Images >> > at >> > the top of the screen. >> > >> > The ship manifest on Apolonia Starzak shows she was traveling with >> > Zofia >> > Lach, who was going to the same house in Northampton, PA. Zofia filed >> to >> > become a citizen. That's what the numbers on her line represent. >> > Apolonia's mother is listed as Marya Starzak. Zofia's father is listed >> as >> > Jan Lach. They were going to the same address in Northampton. They >> were >> > both from Nozdrzec, also located in southern Poland. >> > >> > Tina Ellis >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. >> >> Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in >> >> 1884. >> >> >> >> The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak >> came >> >> to >> >> the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest >> >> said >> >> she >> >> went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were >> >> married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Barbara >> >> By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally >> >> found >> >> him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the manifest >> >> sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> >> >> To: < polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census >> >> >> >> >> >> > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. >> >> > >> >> > Are you sure they were here before 1910? >> >> > >> >> > Tina Ellis >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give >> me >> >> any >> >> >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a >> >> >> missing >> >> >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my >> >> grandparents, >> >> >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can >> find >> >> no >> >> >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because >> >> >> they >> >> >> were >> >> >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they >> were >> >> >> never >> >> >> listed? >> >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message