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    1. Re: [PBS] Surname- KRAKOWIAK
    2. Tina Ellis
    3. The questions are for us to try to help you. Sometimes we get very lucky. The more information we have the more chance there is we can helpl you find other researchers in your family if they are researching. Doing Polish research is not easy if you do not speak the language. Most descendants of Polish people in the US today do not speak Polish. Your other research was easy because you know the language. As stated before there are two places named Radom. One is a village in a different part of Poland. In the area where you are working, Radom is a city, a powiat (county) and a województwo (province). So ... now we know Ilza and Biedrzychow are villages in that area. Thank you. If you are truly interested in doing a genealogical research, the next thing is to find out the names of the parishes for these places, by using the Slownik. Once you know that you can order microfilm from the LDS and work on researching your stepmother in law's family. It can be done, but I gather you are interested in doing the research yourself. You are trying to find someone who has already done all the legwork. That's okay. I hope if you found someone else's work on the other side of your family that you someday confirm the other "person's" research by obtaining your own documention. I have had instances where people have assumed two different branches of my English side of my family tree were their family. I had to threaten one before he would remove my information from his family tree. I wrote and told him that I was going to make a list of surnames in his tree and send a letter to every mail list that for those names and tell them that his entire family tree is fiction and explain how he put my family in his his tree. Luckily he saved me a lot of work. He removed my data. With English names is is much easier to make mistakes like that. We should never assume anything in genealogical research. The other person removed my data when she realized my family was of a different race. This is all true. You can have strange things happen, when people assume you are related to them. You need documentation. Someday I hope you will do this with the rest of your research. Genealogy is not a game. It's a work of love. Someone gave you the Surname Navigator link. That is an excellent site to use to find other researchers. http://www.kuijsten.de/navigator/. It can search the US and Poland sites for you. Just select the country you want. There's a spot wehre you can do that. Good luck to you. :) Tina On 10/7/07, Pamela Jansen <pamela_jansen@yahoo.com> wrote: > I don't have a pare trail to follow. This is my step mother in laws > family, an she has told me all she knows. He brother and parents are dead. > She has one sister, and she has questione her already,as she has tried to do > the family tree. Ibelieve these places come rom her. > It wsmy belief, and I may be wromg, but I thouight Radom was either a > large city or a County, and that Ilza and Biedrzychow / Biedzychow might be > smaller villages within the area of Radom. > The Census, that I have are in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. They > all just say they are from Poland/Russia. No towns or hints there. Most > changed their names from Polish toan English equivalent (Marcin became > Martin, Katerzina, Catherine, Antoninm Anthony, etc. > I appreciate you trying to help me. But I am afraid this list is so much > differentthanthe British ones I am use to that I don't know what else to > do. I do not have money to spend on birth and death certificates etc. I have > already spent more than I can count on y own family. I just wanted my > Stepmother in law to be happy, and be included in the work I plan to give my > family at Christmas. My hopes were that someone else on this list, including > possiblly er sister might respond that they are ealted and have some > answers, and where to go once studying in Poland. > I am sorry I cannot provide what you need, please don't spend any more > time trying to help me, I will just give her what I have typed up already. > > Thanks Again for all your help so far, Pamela > > pam.jansen @ insightbb. com > > Reasearching in Poland and Pennsylvania ; RZEPKA, KRAKOWIAK, KOTARSKI, > PLUSA > > > Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Pam, > > You need to find records ... physical records ... paper documents. You > cannot work do research using misspelled places or names or maybes. There > are two places named Biedrzychow, one named Ilza and two named Radom. > Please narrow it down for us. We need to know the exact place because > records are filed by the place born, married or died, their religion and > their parish or administrative district. If they are over 100 years old, > they will be in an archive. We need places and time frames on where to let > you know you can find records on your family. > > Please explain how you came up three place names. > > Thank you. > > Tina > > > On 10/6/07, Pamela Jansen > wrote: > > > > I have done ancestry.com and asked family, and googled the names. > > > > Tina Ellis > wrote: Where have you searched? > > > > You left the playing field wide open. We could all give you suggestions, > > which you may have already tried. Please narrow it down for us so we are > > not repeating what you have done. > > > > Tina Ellis > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Pamela Jansen > > wrote: > > > > > > Jan KRAKOWIAK *married* Uliana RZEPKA / somewhere in Poland, maybe > > > Ilza > > > or > > > Biedzychow, or Radom. > > > > > > > > > > > > Children: > > > > > > Antoinette KRAKOWIAK B: 2-16-1887 Biedzychow, Radom, Poland > > > D: 9-22-1942 Pittsburgh, > > > Pennsylvania, U.S.A. > > > > > > Bolek KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Inducted into Russian Army and > > > never > > > seen or > > > heard from again. > > > > > > Geofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > > > > > Teofil (aka) Theofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > > > > > Feliks (aka) Felix KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > > > > > Amelia KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: Mr. Zebroski in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? D: > ? > > > > > > Zdieslaw KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > > > > > Stanislava aka (Stella) B: ? M: 1st time in U.S.A. 2nd time in France > 1 > > > son each marriage. > > > D: ? > > > > > > Can anyone help me find the missing links here ? Thank You, Pamela > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! 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