I'm a little slow at reading some of the questions, but I wanted to throw in a thought on this subject, and ask patience if this has been addressed already. There was a fire at Ellis Island in June of 1897, and records dating back to 1855 were destroyed due to this fire. Given the fact that the grandfather sent for grandmother-and they were married in 1898, if she came prior to the fire and came through Ellis, the records could be lost. Because the grandfather was already here prior to 1898, his records might also be lost (if they came through Ellis Island). The only other suggestion I would have to try besides Ellis, Hamburg, & Halifax might be some ports you already considered. Baltimore, the Barge Office, Castle Garden, and Boston. The largest Canadian Atlantic ports were Quebec and Montreal (summer) and St. John and Halifax (winter). (is there a list for Breman?). If you are relatively certain they came through Canadian ports, I found this information: A large number of immigrants came to the United States via Canada during the mid- and late nineteenth century, and for them there is no U.S. immigration record. They landed in Canada where no U.S. officer met them or recorded information about their arrival in the United States. The always-growing number of immigrants who chose this route in the late 1800s finally convinced the United States, in 1894, to build and operate the bureaucratic machinery necessary to document the many thousands who each year entered at points along its northern border. Maybe some of your relatives could shed light on if the grandfather come through Canada and stayed-or did he come through Canada, marry his wife in Winnipeg, then came to the US? There might be no immigration records for you. This would be disappointing news I realize, but it might help to know you're running up against brick walls this might be why and to look for records elsewhere. (church records, etc.) Vicky ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.