In response to your kind suggestions regarding my GFather's leaving Poland. All good questions. Yes, he was Polish of the Jewish faith. He was in Manitoba, All of my father's siblings were all born in Manitoba. They came to the US in 1921. I found them in the Canadian Census in 1901, but can't find them after that, but do know that all of the kids were born there. Have found most of their B- certificates. They show up again in California in 1930 Census and remained their until death and are buried in Oakland, CA. Also don't know where he was born, but the name Turkieltaub was found in Plock, Sierpc, Siedlce, common in Radz, Chel, Lubin and Wloclawek. Other spellings are Tarkieltaub, Terkieltaub, Terkieltop, Turkientaub. Turkientaub was also found in Warsaw. That is about as far as I can get, as least at the moment Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:47:45 -0600 From: jim gambrel <jgambrel@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: [PBS] Leaving Galicia etc. To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000301c79b41$a5e66db0$63d74e18@Gambrels> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Leah - My husband's grandparents applied for some farmland. We searched for the land patent, on line, and found out when it had been applied for, and then searched ship arrivals for that time. Have you checked the 1901 census? Did your grandparents stay in Winnipeg? Or did they farm? If they farmed, what area were they in? Several books have been written about immigrants in Manitoba. One is "Spruce, Swamp and Stone" by Michael Ewanchuk. It is about the area north of Winnipeg near Gimli. The Canadian Archives would have a record of farmers. The site is online. And was your grandfather Polish? Or did he come from a part of Galicia that once belonged to Poland? If you have only searched for Roman Catholic, try Greek Catholic. My husband's grandparents came from Kopyczency, which at one time was Polish. But they were married in the Greek Catholic church in Kopyczency. Try the ships lists from Liverpool to Montreal or Quebec City. Could the surname have been spelled various ways? Ellis Island could sometimes make a new name out of an old one. Check the registry of Immigrants that was taken when WW2 began. It could perhaps have the place of birth. Check the Winnipeg archives for a certificate of death that might give you information. Muriel