Hello. I've found a ship manifest for my relatives. Ship name: Majestic, sailing from Cherbourg 8 Nov 1922 and arriving to New York 14 Nov 1922, line 1 and 2, passenger Adam Zakrzewski and his wife Wladyslawa Zakrzewski. They came back from Poland to USA. Here is a link to this record: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-c&_80004000=Adam+Zakrzewski&_81004010=1886&_81004200=1922&pcat=40&h=4026919623&recoff=1+2&db=nypl&indiv=1 If you can see this record you'll notice that there is a postscript with number in the line where are Adam's details. This number is: 11-784573-2683 and for Wladyslawa this number is: 3-3683 which probably means that the beginning of this number is the same, so full number for Wladyslawa is: 11-784573-3683. I would like to ask you what those numbers mean? Is it passport number or ticket number or something else? I see on this page that there are many pasengers have those numbers in their lines. Does someone can explain me what it means? Adam Zakrzewski (born 1886) arrived to USA in 1913 (I have his manifest) and Wladyslawa Slodkowska (born 1891) I don't know where she arrived (I can't find her manifest but I suppose it was between 1910-1914). Then they married at 26 Aug 1914 in Chicago. Next they visited Poland but I can't find their ship manifest when they're sailing from USA to Europe (I think it was between 1920-1921). Does Ancestry has databases of people who came back from USA to Europe? And for the end they came back from Poland to USA in 1922 (this manifest which you see). I also can't find their passports. On the second page of this ship manifest there is also postscript with a strange date... Feb-1911 and a bit below something like... 1920 but I'm not sure this year. Those dates are in the column "Whether ever before in the US; and if so, when and where" so maybe it means when they were before in US? Does someone can help me and and explain me all those postripts. I'll very grateful for any help. Regards from Poland.

For my husband's grandfather, I was able to match some numbers similiar to that to his naturalization papers-- but I don't know if they used the same system all the time, but I think that's often what that refers to, which is why there are also often much later dates included on the lists as well. Like I said, though, I've only found this to be true for sure one time. Laura On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Tom <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello. I've found a ship manifest for my relatives. Ship name: Majestic, > sailing from Cherbourg 8 Nov 1922 and arriving to New York 14 Nov 1922, line > 1 and 2, passenger Adam Zakrzewski and his wife Wladyslawa Zakrzewski. They > came back from Poland to USA. Here is a link to this record: > > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-c&_80004000=Adam+Zakrzewski&_81004010=1886&_81004200=1922&pcat=40&h=4026919623&recoff=1+2&db=nypl&indiv=1 > > If you can see this record you'll notice that there is a postscript with > number in the line where are Adam's details. This number is: 11-784573-2683 > and for Wladyslawa this number is: 3-3683 which probably means that the > beginning of this number is the same, so full number for Wladyslawa is: > 11-784573-3683. I would like to ask you what those numbers mean? Is it > passport number or ticket number or something else? I see on this page that > there are many pasengers have those numbers in their lines. Does someone can > explain me what it means? > > Adam Zakrzewski (born 1886) arrived to USA in 1913 (I have his manifest) > and Wladyslawa Slodkowska (born 1891) I don't know where she arrived (I > can't find her manifest but I suppose it was between 1910-1914). Then they > married at 26 Aug 1914 in Chicago. Next they visited Poland but I can't find > their ship manifest when they're sailing from USA to Europe (I think it was > between 1920-1921). Does Ancestry has databases of people who came back from > USA to Europe? And for the end they came back from Poland to USA in 1922 > (this manifest which you see). I also can't find their passports. > > On the second page of this ship manifest there is also postscript with a > strange date... Feb-1911 and a bit below something like... 1920 but I'm not > sure this year. Those dates are in the column "Whether ever before in the > US; and if so, when and where" so maybe it means when they were before in > US? > > Does someone can help me and and explain me all those postripts. > I'll very grateful for any help. > Regards from Poland. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tom, This is a return trip to the US, after having living here. Apparently the only time they arrived here previously was in 1911, so that must be the year they moved to this country. On this manifest, they are not numbers for citizenship verification. Between 1906 and 1926, the US did not make notations regarding citizenship on the ship manifests. I think these numbers were most likely for passport verification. They would have had to have passports if they wished to travel between countries. This website explains numbers you see on the manifests: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Manifests/occ/. You can use it for future reference. I have not found the manifests for their entry into the US the first time they arrived. I'll try for a while to run some more searches as I have time. Tina On 11/24/08, Tom <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello. I've found a ship manifest for my relatives. Ship name: Majestic, > sailing from Cherbourg 8 Nov 1922 and arriving to New York 14 Nov 1922, line > 1 and 2, passenger Adam Zakrzewski and his wife Wladyslawa Zakrzewski. They > came back from Poland to USA. Here is a link to this record: > > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-c&_80004000=Adam+Zakrzewski&_81004010=1886&_81004200=1922&pcat=40&h=4026919623&recoff=1+2&db=nypl&indiv=1 > > If you can see this record you'll notice that there is a postscript with > number in the line where are Adam's details. This number is: 11-784573-2683 > and for Wladyslawa this number is: 3-3683 which probably means that the > beginning of this number is the same, so full number for Wladyslawa is: > 11-784573-3683. I would like to ask you what those numbers mean? Is it > passport number or ticket number or something else? I see on this page that > there are many pasengers have those numbers in their lines. Does someone can > explain me what it means? > > Adam Zakrzewski (born 1886) arrived to USA in 1913 (I have his manifest) > and Wladyslawa Slodkowska (born 1891) I don't know where she arrived (I > can't find her manifest but I suppose it was between 1910-1914). Then they > married at 26 Aug 1914 in Chicago. Next they visited Poland but I can't find > their ship manifest when they're sailing from USA to Europe (I think it was > between 1920-1921). Does Ancestry has databases of people who came back from > USA to Europe? And for the end they came back from Poland to USA in 1922 > (this manifest which you see). I also can't find their passports. > > On the second page of this ship manifest there is also postscript with a > strange date... Feb-1911 and a bit below something like... 1920 but I'm not > sure this year. Those dates are in the column "Whether ever before in the > US; and if so, when and where" so maybe it means when they were before in > US? > > Does someone can help me and and explain me all those postripts. > I'll very grateful for any help. > Regards from Poland. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >