Mary!!!! Your Wonderful!!!! I am so amazed! It runs chills up my back to see those record and imagine the hopes and fears of my family as they embarked on a new life. I can't thank you enough!!! I am a little confused because upon looking at how they wrote the manifest, it looks as if Eugen came from Russia, but his kids were from AustriaTo save time writing it looked as if they just did check marks till they came to a word change. and the Austria notation doesn't start till the kids are mentioned. It looks as if the checks are for someplace called Fesnamky or Fesnanchy Russia. anyway, thanks you so much, I never dreamed I could get so much information off one site! Thankyou , Thankyou, Thankyou!!!!!!!! Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 3:13 PM To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Plinske > You certainly have quite a bit of information and documentation! > > Illinois Archives: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html > If you click on the Global Database Search, you will see several > databases to check for Plinske, Plinsky, and Plinski. Any marriage and > death records found can be ordered inexpensively online through > chicagogenealogy.com. > > Eugen and Emilie (index Ennilie) PLINSKY, with their children, arrived > at Ellis Island on March 30, 1892, on the ship Moravia. Free > registration required for Ellis Island; click to enlarge the ship > manifest. Their 'Hailing Place or Place of Starting' was listed as > Kinten, Austria; all census records and other online records show them > to be German. > http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=104919090864 > > Steve Morse search engine for Ellis Island: > http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html > > Records for Kinten, Germany, for 1803-1875 were microfilmed by the > Mormons and can found using the Place Search in the familysearch library > catalog: > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > Parish registers of baptisms and marriages for Kinten (Kr. Heydekrug), > Ostpreusen, Germany; now Kintai, Luthuania. Text in German. > By using 'view film notes', you can find the numbers of the microfilm to > order from a Family History Center. > 1810870, 1810869, 1810871 Items 1-2 > Location of Family History Centers: > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp > > At the pilot site for family search, you can download the 1900 census > for the family in Cook County. It is indexed as Chas Planske, appears > at the bottom of the page and continues on the next page. > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1325221 > > For census purposes in 1900 and 1910, Eugene used the name Charles and > his death certificate may be under that name in the deaths in the > Chicago Archives. In 1920, Amelia, widow, and children are found in > Cook County. Let me know if you would like me to send you the census > pages. > > There is a downloadable birth certificate for August Wilhelm Plinsky, > son of Eugene Plinsky and Emilie Berman, from Kinten, Germany in the > Cook County Birth database at the familysearch pilot site, also. > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1462519 > > You may know the spouses of Charles and his brother and sisters; if so, > you may find the marriage records at: > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1463145 > > All collections at familysearch pilot site are found here: > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0;p=allCollections > > Did your grandfather Charles Plinske change his name to Charles > Williams? What was the name of his wife? He was still living with his > mother in 1920, so marriage occurred after that. > > Best wishes on your search, > Mary > > Ellie Dowling wrote: >> Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several >> places >> and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I have >> on >> Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so far >> no >> success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try >> different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his >> naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when I >> went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under >> either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my >> grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. >> I >> tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried some >> Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't >> succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the >> advice >> I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> >> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 PM >> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) >> >> >>> Ellie Dowling wrote: I know my grandfathers name, Charles Rollo >>> Plinske, and his birth and death >>> dates .but I want to find out more about his origins. >>> >>> Ellie, >>> >>> The information you seek will be in documents in the United States. >>> Documentation will be your key to finding information. If you post >>> where your grandfather lived and died, dates, names of wife, children, >>> brothers, sisters, we may be able to jump start your search for you. >>> The courthouse of the county where your father died will have his death >>> certificate, which can give place of birth. Naturalization papers may >>> be filed there, also. If you know the church he attended, you can >>> contact the church for records, also. There was more than one Charles >>> Plinske in census records (Kansas, Michigan, Connecticut, Wisconsin, >>> Missouri, Chicago), so more specific information will help us help you. >>> >>> You can search at ancestry.com without cost. If you click on the link >>> below, you can see what is available to know whether you wish to >>> subscribe to see the information. Members of this list have >>> subscriptions to various databases. Just let us know so we can try to >>> get you started! >>> http://www.ancestry.com/search/ >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Notice the } (brackets) on the manifest - showing the whole family from Austria and Kinten. It was the entry above the family that you are seeing from Russia. Mary Ellie Dowling wrote: > Mary!!!! Your Wonderful!!!! I am so amazed! It runs chills up my back to > see those record and imagine the hopes and fears of my family as they > embarked on a new life. I can't thank you enough!!! I am a little confused > because upon looking at how they wrote the manifest, it looks as if Eugen > came from Russia, but his kids were from AustriaTo save time writing it > looked as if they just did check marks till they came to a word change. and > the Austria notation doesn't start till the kids are mentioned. It looks as > if the checks are for someplace called Fesnamky or Fesnanchy Russia. > anyway, thanks you so much, I never dreamed I could get so much information > off one site! Thankyou , Thankyou, Thankyou!!!!!!!! Ellie > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 3:13 PM > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Plinske > > >> You certainly have quite a bit of information and documentation! >> >> Illinois Archives: >> http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html >> If you click on the Global Database Search, you will see several >> databases to check for Plinske, Plinsky, and Plinski. Any marriage and >> death records found can be ordered inexpensively online through >> chicagogenealogy.com. >> >> Eugen and Emilie (index Ennilie) PLINSKY, with their children, arrived >> at Ellis Island on March 30, 1892, on the ship Moravia. Free >> registration required for Ellis Island; click to enlarge the ship >> manifest. Their 'Hailing Place or Place of Starting' was listed as >> Kinten, Austria; all census records and other online records show them >> to be German. >> http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=104919090864 >> >> Steve Morse search engine for Ellis Island: >> http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html >> >> Records for Kinten, Germany, for 1803-1875 were microfilmed by the >> Mormons and can found using the Place Search in the familysearch library >> catalog: >> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp >> Parish registers of baptisms and marriages for Kinten (Kr. Heydekrug), >> Ostpreusen, Germany; now Kintai, Luthuania. Text in German. >> By using 'view film notes', you can find the numbers of the microfilm to >> order from a Family History Center. >> 1810870, 1810869, 1810871 Items 1-2 >> Location of Family History Centers: >> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp >> >> At the pilot site for family search, you can download the 1900 census >> for the family in Cook County. It is indexed as Chas Planske, appears >> at the bottom of the page and continues on the next page. >> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1325221 >> >> For census purposes in 1900 and 1910, Eugene used the name Charles and >> his death certificate may be under that name in the deaths in the >> Chicago Archives. In 1920, Amelia, widow, and children are found in >> Cook County. Let me know if you would like me to send you the census >> pages. >> >> There is a downloadable birth certificate for August Wilhelm Plinsky, >> son of Eugene Plinsky and Emilie Berman, from Kinten, Germany in the >> Cook County Birth database at the familysearch pilot site, also. >> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1462519 >> >> You may know the spouses of Charles and his brother and sisters; if so, >> you may find the marriage records at: >> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1463145 >> >> All collections at familysearch pilot site are found here: >> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0;p=allCollections >> >> Did your grandfather Charles Plinske change his name to Charles >> Williams? What was the name of his wife? He was still living with his >> mother in 1920, so marriage occurred after that. >> >> Best wishes on your search, >> Mary >> >> Ellie Dowling wrote: >> >>> Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several >>> places >>> and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I have >>> on >>> Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so far >>> no >>> success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try >>> different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his >>> naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when I >>> went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under >>> either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my >>> grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. >>> I >>> tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried some >>> Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't >>> succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the >>> advice >>> I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 PM >>> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) >>> >>> >>> >>>> Ellie Dowling wrote: I know my grandfathers name, Charles Rollo >>>> Plinske, and his birth and death >>>> dates .but I want to find out more about his origins. >>>> >>>> Ellie, >>>> >>>> The information you seek will be in documents in the United States. >>>> Documentation will be your key to finding information. If you post >>>> where your grandfather lived and died, dates, names of wife, children, >>>> brothers, sisters, we may be able to jump start your search for you. >>>> The courthouse of the county where your father died will have his death >>>> certificate, which can give place of birth. Naturalization papers may >>>> be filed there, also. If you know the church he attended, you can >>>> contact the church for records, also. There was more than one Charles >>>> Plinske in census records (Kansas, Michigan, Connecticut, Wisconsin, >>>> Missouri, Chicago), so more specific information will help us help you. >>>> >>>> You can search at ancestry.com without cost. If you click on the link >>>> below, you can see what is available to know whether you wish to >>>> subscribe to see the information. Members of this list have >>>> subscriptions to various databases. Just let us know so we can try to >>>> get you started! >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/search/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you, I missed the brackets. I think it will be things like that might confuse me from time to time. I am still so excited that one site cleared up something that no one in the family knew, including Charles Daughter who is the only family left. I was just about to call her so I am glad I checked my emails first so I didn't mis- inform her. She will be thrilled! Ellie From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:29 PM To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Plinske > Notice the } (brackets) on the manifest - showing the whole family from > Austria and Kinten. It was the entry above the family that you are > seeing from Russia. > > Mary > > Ellie Dowling wrote: >> Mary!!!! Your Wonderful!!!! I am so amazed! It runs chills up my back to >> see those record and imagine the hopes and fears of my family as they >> embarked on a new life. I can't thank you enough!!! I am a little >> confused >> because upon looking at how they wrote the manifest, it looks as if Eugen >> came from Russia, but his kids were from AustriaTo save time writing it >> looked as if they just did check marks till they came to a word change. >> and >> the Austria notation doesn't start till the kids are mentioned. It looks >> as >> if the checks are for someplace called Fesnamky or Fesnanchy Russia. >> anyway, thanks you so much, I never dreamed I could get so much >> information >> off one site! Thankyou , Thankyou, Thankyou!!!!!!!! Ellie >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 3:13 PM >> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Plinske >> >> >>> You certainly have quite a bit of information and documentation! >>> >>> Illinois Archives: >>> http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html >>> If you click on the Global Database Search, you will see several >>> databases to check for Plinske, Plinsky, and Plinski. Any marriage and >>> death records found can be ordered inexpensively online through >>> chicagogenealogy.com. >>> >>> Eugen and Emilie (index Ennilie) PLINSKY, with their children, arrived >>> at Ellis Island on March 30, 1892, on the ship Moravia. Free >>> registration required for Ellis Island; click to enlarge the ship >>> manifest. Their 'Hailing Place or Place of Starting' was listed as >>> Kinten, Austria; all census records and other online records show them >>> to be German. >>> http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=104919090864 >>> >>> Steve Morse search engine for Ellis Island: >>> http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html >>> >>> Records for Kinten, Germany, for 1803-1875 were microfilmed by the >>> Mormons and can found using the Place Search in the familysearch library >>> catalog: >>> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp >>> Parish registers of baptisms and marriages for Kinten (Kr. Heydekrug), >>> Ostpreusen, Germany; now Kintai, Luthuania. Text in German. >>> By using 'view film notes', you can find the numbers of the microfilm to >>> order from a Family History Center. >>> 1810870, 1810869, 1810871 Items 1-2 >>> Location of Family History Centers: >>> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp >>> >>> At the pilot site for family search, you can download the 1900 census >>> for the family in Cook County. It is indexed as Chas Planske, appears >>> at the bottom of the page and continues on the next page. >>> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1325221 >>> >>> For census purposes in 1900 and 1910, Eugene used the name Charles and >>> his death certificate may be under that name in the deaths in the >>> Chicago Archives. In 1920, Amelia, widow, and children are found in >>> Cook County. Let me know if you would like me to send you the census >>> pages. >>> >>> There is a downloadable birth certificate for August Wilhelm Plinsky, >>> son of Eugene Plinsky and Emilie Berman, from Kinten, Germany in the >>> Cook County Birth database at the familysearch pilot site, also. >>> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1462519 >>> >>> You may know the spouses of Charles and his brother and sisters; if so, >>> you may find the marriage records at: >>> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1463145 >>> >>> All collections at familysearch pilot site are found here: >>> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0;p=allCollections >>> >>> Did your grandfather Charles Plinske change his name to Charles >>> Williams? What was the name of his wife? He was still living with his >>> mother in 1920, so marriage occurred after that. >>> >>> Best wishes on your search, >>> Mary >>> >>> Ellie Dowling wrote: >>> >>>> Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several >>>> places >>>> and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I >>>> have >>>> on >>>> Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so >>>> far >>>> no >>>> success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try >>>> different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his >>>> naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when >>>> I >>>> went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under >>>> either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my >>>> grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. >>>> I >>>> tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried >>>> some >>>> Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't >>>> succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the >>>> advice >>>> I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 PM >>>> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ellie Dowling wrote: I know my grandfathers name, Charles Rollo >>>>> Plinske, and his birth and death >>>>> dates .but I want to find out more about his origins. >>>>> >>>>> Ellie, >>>>> >>>>> The information you seek will be in documents in the United States. >>>>> Documentation will be your key to finding information. If you post >>>>> where your grandfather lived and died, dates, names of wife, children, >>>>> brothers, sisters, we may be able to jump start your search for you. >>>>> The courthouse of the county where your father died will have his >>>>> death >>>>> certificate, which can give place of birth. Naturalization papers may >>>>> be filed there, also. If you know the church he attended, you can >>>>> contact the church for records, also. There was more than one Charles >>>>> Plinske in census records (Kansas, Michigan, Connecticut, Wisconsin, >>>>> Missouri, Chicago), so more specific information will help us help >>>>> you. >>>>> >>>>> You can search at ancestry.com without cost. If you click on the link >>>>> below, you can see what is available to know whether you wish to >>>>> subscribe to see the information. Members of this list have >>>>> subscriptions to various databases. Just let us know so we can try to >>>>> get you started! >>>>> http://www.ancestry.com/search/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message