I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry.  At the Clayton Genealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found them there, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry.  But I checked Ancestry for everything else and did not find anything.  That is why I know that my ancestors came here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL    The National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and since it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there.  We know approximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not found anything yet.  If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed they did, then those records are lost.   One neat thing happened last July.  I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec line in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s Reif line.  August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna Kapczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869.   While that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years after the date we originally had.  Joseph --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com To: [email protected] Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record?