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Re: Gruszcz & Galwa (Tina Ellis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:33:51 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] Buczynski search To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Hi: Thank you for this very complete information. Your thoroughness is great. The links were things I did not know. It is great you took the time to direct many of us. I love this board....Although very rarely anything pertains to my family, I read all the postings and pick up alot of tidbits. I check out the contributor's name and find myself marveling how unselfish the many "regulars" are with their knowledge and TIME. You all are appreciated! Claudia Linda, I trust you do not mind my posting this to the list, just in case anyone else is unfamiliar with some of the workings of the FHC. Once you have identified a film you wish to order from the library catalogue http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp you can order it from your FHC. In some cases they may already hold the film - unlikely for Przedezc unless someone else is also interested in this place. (If so it would be good to discover who they are...) The staff will usually suggest that you check the inventory of films they currently hold. Most of the films I order take months and months to arrive (I'm in the UK) so be prepared for something of a wait. When the film arrives there is a time limit (usually four weeks, but extendable) for reading it. You cannot take it away with you but will use one of the FHCs film readers. I believe most FHCs are happy with you taking digital photos of entries; usually there is also the facility to have them copied on paper or as digital images. You have probably noticed that the films will be in Polish or Russian (Cyrillic). http://www.esisnet.com/~jackbowmanstc/poltrans.htm will give you an idea of what you will be looking at. With Polish you should still recognise your names. Cyrillic is used from 1868 to the end of WWI - after a time many of the names are written in both Cyrillic and Russian script. This Russian alphabet page will help you immensely http://www.esisnet.com/~jackbowmanstc/russian.htm when needing to transliterate surnames from Cyrillic to Polish. Do also take at look at publications by Shea and Hoffman which explain pretty much everything you will need to know! http://www.langline.com/ esp publications. I'm sure you will have many more questions, and good luck with your searches. Bronwyn. Thanks Tina, Andre, and Bronwyn! I have seen the reference to the microfilms of the Przedezc parishes on the LDS site but didn't know how to go about actually viewing the mircofilms. I do have an LDS center near me but I wasn't sure if all the sites had the same microfilms available or if they could be ordered somewhere. What do you think is the best way to go about seeing these microfilms? On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Linda Boris <[email protected]> wrote: > HiI I'm new to PBS so not sure how this works, but I am looking for > information on the marriage of my great grandparents Ignacy Buczynski > (born > Jan 31, 1880 in Warsaw) and Sophia Karpinski (born Mar 3, 1885 in > Dlugi). > They both emigrated to the US (in 1907 and 1909) from Przedezc, Poland. > When Sophia came to the US she already had a 2 year old (born in 1907) > so I > assume the marriage occurred sometime around 1905 or 1906 in Przedecz. > They > are Roman Catholic. Does anyone know how I can find this info? > > Thanks. > > Linda Boris > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:33:52 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] Buczynski search To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Hi: Thank you for this very complete information. Your thoroughness is great. The links were things I did not know. It is great you took the time to direct many of us. I love this board....Although very rarely anything pertains to my family, I read all the postings and pick up alot of tidbits. I check out the contributor's name and find myself marveling how unselfish the many "regulars" are with their knowledge and TIME. You all are appreciated! Claudia Linda, I trust you do not mind my posting this to the list, just in case anyone else is unfamiliar with some of the workings of the FHC. Once you have identified a film you wish to order from the library catalogue http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp you can order it from your FHC. In some cases they may already hold the film - unlikely for Przedezc unless someone else is also interested in this place. (If so it would be good to discover who they are...) The staff will usually suggest that you check the inventory of films they currently hold. Most of the films I order take months and months to arrive (I'm in the UK) so be prepared for something of a wait. When the film arrives there is a time limit (usually four weeks, but extendable) for reading it. You cannot take it away with you but will use one of the FHCs film readers. I believe most FHCs are happy with you taking digital photos of entries; usually there is also the facility to have them copied on paper or as digital images. You have probably noticed that the films will be in Polish or Russian (Cyrillic). http://www.esisnet.com/~jackbowmanstc/poltrans.htm will give you an idea of what you will be looking at. With Polish you should still recognise your names. Cyrillic is used from 1868 to the end of WWI - after a time many of the names are written in both Cyrillic and Russian script. This Russian alphabet page will help you immensely http://www.esisnet.com/~jackbowmanstc/russian.htm when needing to transliterate surnames from Cyrillic to Polish. Do also take at look at publications by Shea and Hoffman which explain pretty much everything you will need to know! http://www.langline.com/ esp publications. I'm sure you will have many more questions, and good luck with your searches. Bronwyn. Thanks Tina, Andre, and Bronwyn! I have seen the reference to the microfilms of the Przedezc parishes on the LDS site but didn't know how to go about actually viewing the mircofilms. I do have an LDS center near me but I wasn't sure if all the sites had the same microfilms available or if they could be ordered somewhere. What do you think is the best way to go about seeing these microfilms? On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Linda Boris <[email protected]> wrote: > HiI I'm new to PBS so not sure how this works, but I am looking for > information on the marriage of my great grandparents Ignacy Buczynski > (born > Jan 31, 1880 in Warsaw) and Sophia Karpinski (born Mar 3, 1885 in > Dlugi). > They both emigrated to the US (in 1907 and 1909) from Przedezc, Poland. > When Sophia came to the US she already had a 2 year old (born in 1907) > so I > assume the marriage occurred sometime around 1905 or 1906 in Przedecz. > They > are Roman Catholic. Does anyone know how I can find this info? > > Thanks. > > Linda Boris > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:33:52 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] Buczynski search To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Hi: Thank you for this very complete information. Your thoroughness is great. The links were things I did not know. It is great you took the time to direct many of us. I love this board....Although very rarely anything pertains to my family, I read all the postings and pick up alot of tidbits. I check out the contributor's name and find myself marveling how unselfish the many "regulars" are with their knowledge and TIME. You all are appreciated! Claudia Linda, I trust you do not mind my posting this to the list, just in case anyone else is unfamiliar with some of the workings of the FHC. Once you have identified a film you wish to order from the library catalogue http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp you can order it from your FHC. In some cases they may already hold the film - unlikely for Przedezc unless someone else is also interested in this place. (If so it would be good to discover who they are...) The staff will usually suggest that you check the inventory of films they currently hold. Most of the films I order take months and months to arrive (I'm in the UK) so be prepared for something of a wait. When the film arrives there is a time limit (usually four weeks, but extendable) for reading it. You cannot take it away with you but will use one of the FHCs film readers. I believe most FHCs are happy with you taking digital photos of entries; usually there is also the facility to have them copied on paper or as digital images. You have probably noticed that the films will be in Polish or Russian (Cyrillic). http://www.esisnet.com/~jackbowmanstc/poltrans.htm will give you an idea of what you will be looking at. With Polish you should still recognise your names. Cyrillic is used from 1868 to the end of WWI - after a time many of the names are written in both Cyrillic and Russian script. This Russian alphabet page will help you immensely http://www.esisnet.com/~jackbowmanstc/russian.htm when needing to transliterate surnames from Cyrillic to Polish. Do also take at look at publications by Shea and Hoffman which explain pretty much everything you will need to know! http://www.langline.com/ esp publications. I'm sure you will have many more questions, and good luck with your searches. Bronwyn. Thanks Tina, Andre, and Bronwyn! I have seen the reference to the microfilms of the Przedezc parishes on the LDS site but didn't know how to go about actually viewing the mircofilms. I do have an LDS center near me but I wasn't sure if all the sites had the same microfilms available or if they could be ordered somewhere. What do you think is the best way to go about seeing these microfilms? On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Linda Boris <[email protected]> wrote: > HiI I'm new to PBS so not sure how this works, but I am looking for > information on the marriage of my great grandparents Ignacy Buczynski > (born > Jan 31, 1880 in Warsaw) and Sophia Karpinski (born Mar 3, 1885 in > Dlugi). > They both emigrated to the US (in 1907 and 1909) from Przedezc, Poland. > When Sophia came to the US she already had a 2 year old (born in 1907) > so I > assume the marriage occurred sometime around 1905 or 1906 in Przedecz. > They > are Roman Catholic. Does anyone know how I can find this info? > > Thanks. > > Linda Boris > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:47:19 -0800 From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PBS] Gruszcz & Galwa To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 I'm sorry for my error. I went through this one too fast. Andre is correct. I did not go far enough down on the list at the LDS catalog. That's because the Z has a diacritical mark,and those are listed at the end after the places starting with the regular Z. http://www.genpol.com/Katalog_Zasobow_Metrykalnych-parafia_10415.html The LDS has the microfilmed list indexed at this site: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=769854&disp=Ksi%C4%99gi+metrykalne%20%20&columns=*,0,0. They have records from 1758 through 1948. Tina On 1/8/09, Andre Switala <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have to disagree with Tina on this one - since the Poznan Project > database found the couple in the Zon parish, this is where the Catholic > church is! > > What you can do to find out more is to see if you can get a copy of the > original marriage entry of the church book. This will most likely not > give you the parents' names (otherwise they would be listed in the > Poznan Project), but maybe it will tell you from which village both of > them came. > > The other option is to see if you can get the civil record from the > marriage. Civil records in Germany started in late 1874, which means > there should be one for the marriage you are looking for. You want to > look for civil records from Margonin for this! Right now the LDS page > gives an error when searching (at least for me) - see if civil records > where filmed by the LDS. If they weren't, you may have to write to the > archive. > > I also suggest that you sign up for the Posen (Poznan) mailing list, > since there will be more people who can help there (for information go > to www.posen-l.com) > > Best, Andre > > Tina Ellis wrote: > > *?o?* - wie? w Polsce po?o?ona w wojew?dztwie wielkopolskim, w powiecie > > chodzieskim, w gminie Margonin. W latach 1975-1998 miejscowo?? > > administracyjnie nale?a?a do wojew?dztwa pilskiego. > > > > The church is in Margonin, the gmina. The LDS have microfilmed the > records > > for 1690 thorugh 1955. > > > > > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=344582&subject_disp=Germany%2C+Preu%C3%9Fen%2C+Posen%2C+Margonin+%2D+Church+records&columns=*,0,0 > > > > I hope they were in this parish for this entire period of time. Good > luck > > in your search. > > > > Tina Ellis > > > > > > > >> Hello All - > >> After a very long search I think I had a breakthrough courtesy of the > >> Poznan Project. I am throwing these names and location out there in > case > >> anyone has any connection. > >> > >> Martinus Gruszcz married Catharina Galwas in 1880 in a place called > >> ?o?. If anyone has any info to share on this town (or more importantly > what > >> the Catholic Church was/is in this town) or these last names I'd greatly > >> appreciate it. 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