I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my grandmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a project of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of ships. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had arrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she could have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname horribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the Rotterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did the ship manifest could have misspelt the name. Concerning the difference in the marriage year. I have found several instances of wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was with the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it was discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the Akty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to the year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ancestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two children during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry record and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded date. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 02009 12:05 am Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry.  At the Clayton enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found them here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry.  But I checked Ancestry for verything else and did not find anything.  That is why I know that my ancestors ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL  he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there.  We know pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not ound anything yet.  If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed hey did, then those records are lost. ne neat thing happened last July.  I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s eif line.  August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years fter the date we originally had. Joseph -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com o: [email protected] a te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my grandmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a project of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of ships. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had arrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she could have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname horribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the Rotterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did the ship manifest could have misspelt the name. > > Concerning the difference in the marriage year. I have found several instances of wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was with the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it was discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the Akty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to the year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ancestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two children during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry record and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded date. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 > 02009 12:05 am > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > > > I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton > enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found them > here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry for > verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my ancestors > ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL > > he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and > ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We know > pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not > ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed > hey did, then those records are lost. > > ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec > ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s > eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna > apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. > > hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years > fter the date we originally had. > Joseph > > -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> > ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > o: [email protected] > a > te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM > You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my grandmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a project of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of ships. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had arrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she could have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname horribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the Rotterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did the ship manifest could have misspelt the name. > > Concerning the difference in the marriage year. I have found several instances of wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was with the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it was discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the Akty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to the year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ancestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two children during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry record and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded date. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 > 02009 12:05 am > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > > > I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton > enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found them > here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry for > verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my ancestors > ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL > > he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and > ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We know > pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not > ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed > hey did, then those records are lost. > > ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec > ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s > eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna > apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. > > hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years > fter the date we originally had. > Joseph > > -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> > ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > o: [email protected] > a > te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM > You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message