I went to NARA in NY and looked at the microfilms of the ships. I was determined to find her. This grandmother is still very elusive. I can't find her birth record. I found the records of her siblings and I am beginning to think that she just dropped out of a sky one day. -----Original Message----- From: jakki szymanowski <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:29 pm Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com i- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my randmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a roject of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of hips. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had rrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she ould have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname orribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the otterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did he ship manifest could have misspelt the name. Concerning the difference=2 0in the marriage year. I have found several instances f wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was ith the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it as discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the kty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to he year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ncestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two hildren during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry ecord and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded ate. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 02009 12:05 am Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found hem here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry for > verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my ncestors ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and > ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We know20 pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed hey did, then those records are lost. ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years fter the date we originally had. Joseph -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com o: [email protected] a te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, ple ase send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Have you tried Find My past? That is how I found my elusive ancestors'- they came to Canada from (what is now) Ukraine- via LIVERPOOL (her hubby, who preceeded her took another route- TRIESTE). Melanie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: January-20-09 9:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I went to NARA in NY and looked at the microfilms of the ships. I was determined to find her. This grandmother is still very elusive. I can't find her birth record. I found the records of her siblings and I am beginning to think that she just dropped out of a sky one day. -----Original Message----- From: jakki szymanowski <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:29 pm Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com i- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my randmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a roject of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of hips. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had rrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she ould have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname orribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the otterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did he ship manifest could have misspelt the name. Concerning the difference=2 0in the marriage year. I have found several instances f wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was ith the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it as discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the kty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to he year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ncestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two hildren during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry ecord and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded ate. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 02009 12:05 am Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found hem here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry for > verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my ncestors ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and > ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We > know20 pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed hey did, then those records are lost. ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years fter the date we originally had. Joseph -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com o: [email protected] a te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, ple ase send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know it is OK to send this to the board but it is worth looking at, only wish I understood Polish so I could enjoy the song. The pictures are beautiful and with so many board members having gone to Poland there may be pictures that bring back memories to them. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=FK05Xqtt71M