List - My g.g.grandfather was Jan TYSSOWSKI (1811-1857), a political figure in the short-lived 1846 Revolution of Krakow. He was jailed by the Austrians, escaped, and was later recaptured and exiled to the U.S. in 1847. We have reasons to suspect that the origins of this family may be found in Ukraine, specifically in Lviv/Lwow. Jan Tyssowski's father, Jozef Tyssowski (abt. 1779 - abt. 1820), also spelled TYSOWSKI, lived and worked in Lwow and was apparently a "local official, translator, and editor of the gubernatorial mandates published in the Lwów Polish Journal, who died while John [Jan] was a mere boy" (Rutkowska 1943). The date of Jozef's death is estimated to be about 1820, as Jan was born in Tarnow in 1811. Jozef's wife (Jan's mother) was Pelagia PACIORKOWSKA (1790-1879); her grave is in Tarnow but her birthplace is not known with certainty (possibly in Tuchow, a short distance S of Tarnow). Jozef & Pelagia were married in Tuchow in 1807 - interesting that their marriage was "blessed by the Bishop from Kielce, the administrator of the Tarnow Diocese" - unsure of the possible significance of this. These are some of the several clues we have to the possible origins of the Tyssowski/Tysowski family - Lwow seems to have been a frequent and repeated resort of the Tyssowskis, a place of strong familial ties: "... Tyssowski [John/Jan] entered the University of Lwów where he obtained his degree in philosophy and studied law for three years" (ibid.., p. 30). It is later stated, after spending some time in Vienna where he "received the doctorate of law in 1835", that "...homesickness drove him back in 1839 to Lwów" (ibid.,. pp. 33-34). [Sister M. Neomisia Rutkowska, Ph.D., was a scholar who wrote a detailed biography, "John Tyssowski", published by the Polish Roman Catholic Union of America, Chicago, 1943]. Does anyone have any knowledge of the "Lwów Polish Journal"? Are there perhaps any records of this journal known to exist? Might there be any early records of the University of Lwów? How would I go about finding possible birth/death records in Lwow for Jozef Tyssowski/Tysowski? Perhaps he, or someone in the family, once owned property or paid taxes there... Has anyone had any success in finding out if this sort of information might be available in Lviv/Lwow? Although John/Jan Tyssowski & his wife, Antoinette/Antonina LENSKA (1818-1892) produced a large progeny which is fairly well documented in America, this is our 'brick wall' which has stymied us for many years. Any suggestions or help in pursuing this would be very much appreciated! Thank you in advance, Frank

I'm not quite sure what this Journal is about that you want. Suggestion: Try http://www.google.com and run a search with quotes ... "Lwow Polish Journal". See if that brings up what you want. I have no idea where you may have searched for old records from Lwow. You did not mention that, so if this is redundant, please accept my apologies. The LDS have old records, which they have microfilmed from Lwow. This list pretty much covers Lwow: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=67925&subject_disp=Poland%2C+Lw%C3%B3w%2C+Lw%C3%B3w+%28Lw%C3%B3w%29&columns=*,0,0 They also have records for the Roman Catholic parish in Tuchow covering the years you are researching. It's possible they married in Tuchow, if this was indeed the parish at the time she married. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=616430&subject_disp=Poland%2C+Krak%C3%B3w%2C+Tuch%C3%B3w+%28Tarn%C3%B3w%29+%2D+Church+records&columns=*,0,0 This is what they have for Tarnow: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=67342&subject_disp=Poland%2C+Krak%C3%B3w%2C+Tarn%C3%B3w+%28Tarn%C3%B3w%29&columns=*,0,0 I take it that you meant the city of Tarnow. You much understand that Tarnow was the provincial capital of the province of Tarnow and would have been in the county of Tarnow. If these do not help try their catalog for other places in Tarnow: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,0,0 There is also the Polish archives site. They have a catalog. http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en They will do searches for you, but they do not do searches on words like maybe and possibly. You need to be specific, and must state the religion, since records are filed by that and their parish. They charge by the hour for searches and have fees for documents. With the LDS you order their microfilm and rent them for a fee. You can copy all the records you want from the film yourself at a minimal cost. They are a non-profic organization, so their costs are minimal. Hope this helps you. Tina Ellis On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Frank Johnson <paco@gbis.com> wrote: > List - > > My g.g.grandfather was Jan TYSSOWSKI (1811-1857), a political figure in the > short-lived 1846 Revolution of Krakow. He was jailed by the Austrians, > escaped, and was later recaptured and exiled to the U.S. in 1847. > > We have reasons to suspect that the origins of this family may be found in > Ukraine, specifically in Lviv/Lwow. Jan Tyssowski's father, Jozef Tyssowski > (abt. 1779 - abt. 1820), also spelled TYSOWSKI, lived and worked in Lwow and > was apparently a "local official, translator, and editor of the > gubernatorial mandates published in the Lwów Polish Journal, who died while > John [Jan] was a mere boy" (Rutkowska 1943). The date of Jozef's death is > estimated to be about 1820, as Jan was born in Tarnow in 1811. Jozef's wife > (Jan's mother) was Pelagia PACIORKOWSKA (1790-1879); her grave is in Tarnow > but her birthplace is not known with certainty (possibly in Tuchow, a short > distance S of Tarnow). Jozef & Pelagia were married in Tuchow in 1807 - > interesting that their marriage was "blessed by the Bishop from Kielce, the > administrator of the Tarnow Diocese" - unsure of the possible significance > of this. > > These are some of the several clues we have to the possible origins of the > Tyssowski/Tysowski family - Lwow seems to have been a frequent and repeated > resort of the Tyssowskis, a place of strong familial ties: "... Tyssowski > [John/Jan] entered the University of Lwów where he obtained his degree in > philosophy and studied law for three years" (ibid.., p. 30). It is later > stated, after spending some time in Vienna where he "received the doctorate > of law in 1835", that "...homesickness drove him back in 1839 to Lwów" > (ibid.,. pp. 33-34). > > [Sister M. Neomisia Rutkowska, Ph.D., was a scholar who wrote a detailed > biography, "John Tyssowski", published by the Polish Roman Catholic Union of > America, Chicago, 1943]. > > Does anyone have any knowledge of the "Lwów Polish Journal"? Are there > perhaps any records of this journal known to exist? Might there be any > early records of the University of Lwów? How would I go about finding > possible birth/death records in Lwow for Jozef Tyssowski/Tysowski? Perhaps > he, or someone in the family, once owned property or paid taxes there... > > Has anyone had any success in finding out if this sort of information might > be available in Lviv/Lwow? > > Although John/Jan Tyssowski & his wife, Antoinette/Antonina LENSKA > (1818-1892) produced a large progeny which is fairly well documented in > America, this is our 'brick wall' which has stymied us for many years. > > Any suggestions or help in pursuing this would be very much appreciated! > > Thank you in advance, Frank > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >