I see Leman is a little north and east of Okalewo where my cousin was from. He was picked up on the road and taken to Stutthof. He did write his memoirs of this time there, came out to be 42 pages. I went with him twice to the camp it was very sad. No movie can describe what happened at those camps. Kuba On Jan 31, 2010, at 8:33 PM, lorraine wrote: > His name is Piotr Szczesny, he was from Leman. There were several people > from his village killed in that camp. His crime? 'being too Polish' in > other words 'suspected of being in the Polish Underground'. And knowing my > family here I believe he was and we here are proud of him. My cousin gave > my friend copies his papers from there. It breaks my heart that all she has > of her father is one old picture, but soon to be two and his papers from > Stutoff. I received his papers via email yesterday afternoon. I have busy > calling and emailing relatives and have not had a chance to attempt > translating them. They sort of look like I found on the internet years ago. > Unfortunately that website is no longer available. > Lorraine > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jakub Przedzienkowski" <jimpres1@mac.com> > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS] Finally It's My Turn > > >> Lorraine, >> >> I am happy you have had success. >> >> >> What is your cousin's father's last name. I had a cousine Jaskolski >> who was in Stutthof until it was liberated. >> If you contact the Museum at Stutthof you might be able to get >> some paperwork on your cousin. >> I got the release papers for my cousin. >> >> Kuba >> >> >> On Jan 31, 2010, at 12:34 PM, lorraine wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I just have to share. After all these years of searching for relatives >>> in Poland I can finally say someone has been found! >>> >>> So many people over the years have asked why I have not given up but my >>> answer is that everyday technology is changing, the world is getting >>> smaller and smaller plus in many ways in Europe things are moving much >>> faster than here and I just knew if I kept at it - then one day - just >>> like yesterday morning - I will find that email or when I go to the >>> mailbox - there will be a letter from Poland. >>> >>> A few months ago, using the social group http://nasza-klasa.pl/ I found >>> a lovely woman in my grandparents' birth village and we have been >>> emailing. It has been quite an adventure since I do not speak Polish and >>> she does not speak English. She has been trying to locate family for me. >>> Viola's mother-in-law thought she knew some of my family but I would have >>> to wait until she visited where they now live. She visited this past >>> week. She told of how I have been searching for family. >>> >>> I keep tearing up. I was told that my cousin cried too, hearing someone >>> in America has been trying find them. They do not do not have a >>> computer. So I guess I'll be using the Post Office. And fortunately for >>> me, my cousin's granddaughter speaks English. >>> >>> My cousin is Jadwiga must in her 80's.. A few years ago I found that her >>> father had been murdered by the Nazi's in the Stutthof Concentration >>> Camp. No one here in America knew this. He was my Grandpa's only >>> brother. Jadwiga sent me via my Polish friend, Viola copies of two >>> photos. Wow, what a family resemblance! She only has one picture of >>> her father and so do I. Imagine how pleased I was when I saw the photo >>> was not the same one I have. You can bet I'm sending her a copy of my >>> picture of her father. >>> >>> The only sad thing about this is that my mother did not live long enough >>> to see that I have succeeded in finding cousins in Poland and that there >>> is someone in Poland that looks just like her. Sadly, my Mom passed this >>> past October. I like to think that knowing my obsession, somehow Mom was >>> able to help from the other side. >>> >>> Whenever someone in the group would write to tell us of their finding >>> family I have to admit besides being thrilled for them there was that >>> little bit of jealously. When would it be my turn? Well it was >>> yesterday! So please do not give up. You too, will one day, get that >>> email or find that letter in your mailbox. >>> >>> Lorraine >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> Kuba Przedzienkowski >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Kuba Przedzienkowski

Do you have a copy of his memoirs? Was he charged with anything? Did his family know where he was? I have read some things about Stutthof - horrible is not a word extreme enough to describe what people went through in those prisons. Since no one here in America knew my great-uncle was in Stutthof, there are no stories of how he was picked up. At some point my grandparents must have heard he was missing but probably prayed his was alive. When I studied WW II in school I asked my grandparents if anyone in our family was in or died in a concentration camp - I was told no, not that anyone knew of. They did say yes, there were rumors of people being arrested so maybe very distant cousins were taken. We must remember that in the 40's and 50's there was very little communication with Poland, maybe a letter every year or so. And always the same thing. Usually one page saying we are fine, so and so married or had a baby. My grandfather often when drinking a bit too much would become sad and angry and he would tell the story of being a very young boy in the field with his younger sister. He talked of the Russian soldiers coming, raping his mother and sister then killing them. He would tell of feeling helpless and holding his hand over his sister's mouth to keep her from crying out. So if he knew of his brother's imprisonment and death I'm sure it would have been spoken about. Because of this I think some of my family including my mother believed I found someone actually not related to us. But the Stutthof record showed his name, date of birth, place of birth, residence and father's name. Last year I hired someone to find his birth record so I had proof of his birth date. Still, relatives would ask me how we did not know. Sadly, I don't think there is family in Poland that does not have such horrible stories in their family. Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jakub Przedzienkowski" <jimpres1@mac.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Finally It's My Turn >I see Leman is a little north and east of Okalewo where my cousin was from. > He was picked up on the road and taken to Stutthof. > He did write his memoirs of this time there, came out to be 42 pages. > I went with him twice to the camp it was very sad. No movie can describe > what happened at those camps. > > Kuba > > > On Jan 31, 2010, at 8:33 PM, lorraine wrote: > >> His name is Piotr Szczesny, he was from Leman. There were several people >> from his village killed in that camp. His crime? 'being too Polish' in >> other words 'suspected of being in the Polish Underground'. And knowing >> my >> family here I believe he was and we here are proud of him. My cousin >> gave >> my friend copies his papers from there. It breaks my heart that all she >> has >> of her father is one old picture, but soon to be two and his papers from >> Stutoff. I received his papers via email yesterday afternoon. I have >> busy >> calling and emailing relatives and have not had a chance to attempt >> translating them. They sort of look like I found on the internet years >> ago. >> Unfortunately that website is no longer available. >> Lorraine >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jakub Przedzienkowski" <jimpres1@mac.com> >> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [PBS] Finally It's My Turn >> >> >>> Lorraine, >>> >>> I am happy you have had success. >>> >>> >>> What is your cousin's father's last name. I had a cousine Jaskolski >>> who was in Stutthof until it was liberated. >>> If you contact the Museum at Stutthof you might be able to get >>> some paperwork on your cousin. >>> I got the release papers for my cousin. >>> >>> Kuba >>> >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2010, at 12:34 PM, lorraine wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I just have to share. After all these years of searching for relatives >>>> in Poland I can finally say someone has been found! >>>> >>>> So many people over the years have asked why I have not given up but my >>>> answer is that everyday technology is changing, the world is getting >>>> smaller and smaller plus in many ways in Europe things are moving much >>>> faster than here and I just knew if I kept at it - then one day - just >>>> like yesterday morning - I will find that email or when I go to the >>>> mailbox - there will be a letter from Poland. >>>> >>>> A few months ago, using the social group http://nasza-klasa.pl/ I >>>> found >>>> a lovely woman in my grandparents' birth village and we have been >>>> emailing. It has been quite an adventure since I do not speak Polish >>>> and >>>> she does not speak English. She has been trying to locate family for >>>> me. >>>> Viola's mother-in-law thought she knew some of my family but I would >>>> have >>>> to wait until she visited where they now live. She visited this past >>>> week. She told of how I have been searching for family. >>>> >>>> I keep tearing up. I was told that my cousin cried too, hearing >>>> someone >>>> in America has been trying find them. They do not do not have a >>>> computer. So I guess I'll be using the Post Office. And fortunately >>>> for >>>> me, my cousin's granddaughter speaks English. >>>> >>>> My cousin is Jadwiga must in her 80's.. A few years ago I found that >>>> her >>>> father had been murdered by the Nazi's in the Stutthof Concentration >>>> Camp. No one here in America knew this. He was my Grandpa's only >>>> brother. Jadwiga sent me via my Polish friend, Viola copies of two >>>> photos. Wow, what a family resemblance! She only has one picture of >>>> her father and so do I. Imagine how pleased I was when I saw the photo >>>> was not the same one I have. You can bet I'm sending her a copy of my >>>> picture of her father. >>>> >>>> The only sad thing about this is that my mother did not live long >>>> enough >>>> to see that I have succeeded in finding cousins in Poland and that >>>> there >>>> is someone in Poland that looks just like her. Sadly, my Mom passed >>>> this >>>> past October. I like to think that knowing my obsession, somehow Mom >>>> was >>>> able to help from the other side. >>>> >>>> Whenever someone in the group would write to tell us of their finding >>>> family I have to admit besides being thrilled for them there was that >>>> little bit of jealously. When would it be my turn? Well it was >>>> yesterday! So please do not give up. You too, will one day, get that >>>> email or find that letter in your mailbox. >>>> >>>> Lorraine >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> Kuba Przedzienkowski >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Kuba Przedzienkowski > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message