Has anyone ordered the computer printout instead of a photostat? I am wondering if it includes everything on the initial application, or just selected portions? I am also wondering if the computer report shows the name when the person applied, or just the person's last known name. This is an issue because it might tell us another married name for a woman who I cannot find after 1910, until her death in 1994. Thanks On 9/24/09, Linda Boris <lboris0217@yahoo.com> wrote: > I have ordered Social security info from the SSA site on a few of my > ancestors. The info on the applications are: > > Name, mailing address, full name at birth, age, birthdate, place of birth, > father and mothers full names, gender, race, business. > > So you can see there is quite a bit of good info, if the copy is a good one. >

There are two places near Pruska Wielka named Zebry. Have you given any thought about Zebny possibly being Zebry? On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:10 AM, barry kaminski <barrykaminski@yahoo.com>wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions. > > Harriet, your strategies have not worked for me, but I do appreciate your > support. I have tried all of your suggestions to no avail, that is the > reason I put my original post out to the group. I used your same approach > with the Kaminski side of the family and that is how I have succeded to thus > far reach back to the mid 1700's. I think most people don't put as much > effort as we have before they give up, but I refuse to quit. I know there > is one clue out there that will help to get me to the right town or > village. The Kozatek's and Rominski's just want me to appreciate all of my > research I guess :-) > > Tina, the Kaminski's and Blyszczek's were from the Suwalki region. Janowka > and Pruska Wielka to be exact, where they have lived since the 1500's. > However, I don't believe the Kozatek's and Rominski's were. I am leaning to > a little more SW towards Warsaw, since that it is what my grandmother always > said. Although I did find a small village, which I don't think exists > anymore, by the name of Warszawa in the Suwalki region. ( It was SE of > Dowspuda near what is now Kurianki.) Most of the records that do have any > actual residence on indicate that everyone was from the Lomza province > (which encompassed the Suwalki area in the1800's). Except of course my > great grandparents Ellis Island records that say they were from Grebonka in > the Lubelskie province, but I believe whoever was recording the passengers > just lumped everyone on that page into the Lubelskie province if they were > from Russian Poland.(Imagine that, mistakes on official records. Unheard > of!) I tend to think Grebonka might be Zielonka and that Zebny may be > Zebki (with the nasal e), both just outside of Warsaw. That is the angle I > am working on now. > > Happy researching and HAPPY NEW YEAR! > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Rominski and Kozatek families in Poland (Bronwyn Klimach) > 2. Re: Rominski and Kozatek families in Poland (marlo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the suggestions.   Harriet, your strategies have not worked for me, but I do appreciate your support.  I have tried all of your suggestions to no avail, that is the reason I put my original post out to the group.  I used your same approach with the Kaminski side of the family and that is how I have succeded to thus far reach back to the mid 1700's.  I think most people don't put as much effort as we have before they give up, but I refuse to quit.  I know there is one clue out there that will help to get me to the right town or village.  The Kozatek's and Rominski's just want me to appreciate all of my research I guess :-)   Tina, the Kaminski's and Blyszczek's were from the Suwalki region.  Janowka and Pruska Wielka to be exact, where they have lived since the 1500's.  However, I don't believe the Kozatek's and Rominski's were.  I am leaning to a little more SW towards Warsaw, since that it is what my grandmother always said.  Although I did find a small village, which I don't think exists anymore, by the name of Warszawa in the Suwalki region. ( It was SE of Dowspuda near what is now Kurianki.) Most of the records that do have any actual residence on indicate that everyone was from the Lomza province (which encompassed the Suwalki area in the1800's).  Except of course my great grandparents Ellis Island records that say they were from Grebonka in the Lubelskie province, but I believe whoever was recording the passengers just lumped everyone on that page into the Lubelskie province if they were from Russian Poland.(Imagine that, mistakes on official records. Unheard of!)  I tend to think Grebonka might be Zielonka and that Zebny may be Zebki (with the nasal e), both just outside of Warsaw.  That is the angle I am working on now.   Happy researching and HAPPY NEW YEAR! Today's Topics:    1. Re: Rominski and Kozatek families in Poland (Bronwyn Klimach)    2. Re: Rominski and Kozatek families in Poland (marlo) ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Following from your comment Tina, I would suggest watching for the spelling Krisbin and variants in between. I have a rather elusive Krisbin line from Sidorowka just to the north of Suwalki. Bronwyn. On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: > Were they by chance from the Suwalki area? > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:44 AM, har <harcardinal@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Hi Barry, >> >> I had similar difficulties while researching my Polish ancestors who >> immigrated to the same area of Pennsylvania as yours did.  I will >> share my strategy in hopes that it helps you.  My goal was to find the >> village of birth for my ancestors.  I was able to narrow it down to >> three villages which all went to the same parish church in Poland.  I >> found the Polish church records for my ancestors and met a living >> relative in Poland.  I hope you are at least as successful. >> >> I cast a wider net. Relying on the idea of chain migration, I searched >> for every possible record in the US for anyone with surnames similar >> to my ancestors and who  lived in a certain geographical area in >> Pennsylvania (for you, that may be a certain number of towns around >> Wilkes Barre). Alternative spellings were significant here.  I placed >> all my data from these records in a large spread sheet.  This allowed >> me to compare the data. The records include: >> >> ships passenger lists >> naturalization records >> census records in Pennsylvania >> mining accidents (my ancestors worked in the mines in Pennsylvania) >> WWI draft records >> Haller's Army records >> cemetery records in Pennsylvania >> wills in Pennsylvania >> court documents in Pennsylvania >> church records in Pennsylvania where they lived (these were very >> valuable, as frequently they list the providence or village of birth >> in Poland) >> civil marriage records in Pennsylvania >> newspapers >> etc. >> >> I did the same research for anyone listed as a sponsor on any >> christening and/or witness on any marriage. >> >> When working with passenger lists, I searched for anyone with similar >> surnames to my ancestors. I put their data in my spreadsheet.  For >> passengers listed just above or just below on the passenger lists, if >> they were from the same village or province, I put them in my >> spreadsheet, as well (regardless of surname). >> Of particular help was Steve Morse's database search engine.  I used >> it to search passenger lists for everyone from the same village or >> province in Poland. >> http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html >> >> Also, in identifying villages, the following website was extremely >> helpful: >> http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp >> >> I did the same research for anyone who married into the family either >> in Poland or in the US. >> >> This required a significant amount of work, but was worth it.  I found >> that people with surnames similar to my ancestors (who immigrated to >> the same area of Pennsylvania) were born in three villages and >> attended the same parish church in Poland.  So, I made an educated >> guess that my ancestors came from one of these three villages.  And I >> was right! >> >> Happy Researching! And Good Luck! >> Harriet >>

Harriett, I just read your message and I am very impressed at all the work you did and you were so thorough. I am happy you did have success. It would be a very good program for anyone to follow and see where it takes them. I only write because I could not believe how thorough you were in everything you did. Congratulations on being such a great researcher. I am sure it took a lot of time but you succeeded and I salute you. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "har" <harcardinal@earthlink.net> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Cc: <barrykaminski@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: [PBS] Rominski and Kozatek families in Poland > Hi Barry, > > I had similar difficulties while researching my Polish ancestors who > immigrated to the same area of Pennsylvania as yours did. I will > share my strategy in hopes that it helps you. My goal was to find the > village of birth for my ancestors. I was able to narrow it down to > three villages which all went to the same parish church in Poland. I > found the Polish church records for my ancestors and met a living > relative in Poland. I hope you are at least as successful. > > I cast a wider net. Relying on the idea of chain migration, I searched > for every possible record in the US for anyone with surnames similar > to my ancestors and who lived in a certain geographical area in > Pennsylvania (for you, that may be a certain number of towns around > Wilkes Barre). Alternative spellings were significant here. I placed > all my data from these records in a large spread sheet. This allowed > me to compare the data. The records include: > > ships passenger lists > naturalization records > census records in Pennsylvania > mining accidents (my ancestors worked in the mines in Pennsylvania) > WWI draft records > Haller's Army records > cemetery records in Pennsylvania > wills in Pennsylvania > court documents in Pennsylvania > church records in Pennsylvania where they lived (these were very > valuable, as frequently they list the providence or village of birth > in Poland) > civil marriage records in Pennsylvania > newspapers > etc. > > I did the same research for anyone listed as a sponsor on any > christening and/or witness on any marriage. > > When working with passenger lists, I searched for anyone with similar > surnames to my ancestors. I put their data in my spreadsheet. For > passengers listed just above or just below on the passenger lists, if > they were from the same village or province, I put them in my > spreadsheet, as well (regardless of surname). > Of particular help was Steve Morse's database search engine. I used > it to search passenger lists for everyone from the same village or > province in Poland. > http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html > > Also, in identifying villages, the following website was extremely > helpful: > http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp > > I did the same research for anyone who married into the family either > in Poland or in the US. > > This required a significant amount of work, but was worth it. I found > that people with surnames similar to my ancestors (who immigrated to > the same area of Pennsylvania) were born in three villages and > attended the same parish church in Poland. So, I made an educated > guess that my ancestors came from one of these three villages. And I > was right! > > Happy Researching! And Good Luck! > Harriet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2595 - Release Date: 12/31/09 08:52:00

Were they by chance from the Suwalki area? On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:44 AM, har <harcardinal@earthlink.net> wrote: > Hi Barry, > > I had similar difficulties while researching my Polish ancestors who > immigrated to the same area of Pennsylvania as yours did. I will > share my strategy in hopes that it helps you. My goal was to find the > village of birth for my ancestors. I was able to narrow it down to > three villages which all went to the same parish church in Poland. I > found the Polish church records for my ancestors and met a living > relative in Poland. I hope you are at least as successful. > > I cast a wider net. Relying on the idea of chain migration, I searched > for every possible record in the US for anyone with surnames similar > to my ancestors and who lived in a certain geographical area in > Pennsylvania (for you, that may be a certain number of towns around > Wilkes Barre). Alternative spellings were significant here. I placed > all my data from these records in a large spread sheet. This allowed > me to compare the data. The records include: > > ships passenger lists > naturalization records > census records in Pennsylvania > mining accidents (my ancestors worked in the mines in Pennsylvania) > WWI draft records > Haller's Army records > cemetery records in Pennsylvania > wills in Pennsylvania > court documents in Pennsylvania > church records in Pennsylvania where they lived (these were very > valuable, as frequently they list the providence or village of birth > in Poland) > civil marriage records in Pennsylvania > newspapers > etc. > > I did the same research for anyone listed as a sponsor on any > christening and/or witness on any marriage. > > When working with passenger lists, I searched for anyone with similar > surnames to my ancestors. I put their data in my spreadsheet. For > passengers listed just above or just below on the passenger lists, if > they were from the same village or province, I put them in my > spreadsheet, as well (regardless of surname). > Of particular help was Steve Morse's database search engine. I used > it to search passenger lists for everyone from the same village or > province in Poland. > http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html > > Also, in identifying villages, the following website was extremely > helpful: > http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp > > I did the same research for anyone who married into the family either > in Poland or in the US. > > This required a significant amount of work, but was worth it. I found > that people with surnames similar to my ancestors (who immigrated to > the same area of Pennsylvania) were born in three villages and > attended the same parish church in Poland. So, I made an educated > guess that my ancestors came from one of these three villages. And I > was right! > > Happy Researching! And Good Luck! > Harriet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Harriet, Thank you very much for your response. I will follow up on your suggestions. Happy New Year! Sincerely, Mercedes Sowko Crispin > From: harcardinal@earthlink.net > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:44:32 -0500 > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > CC: barrykaminski@yahoo.com > Subject: [PBS] Rominski and Kozatek families in Poland > > Hi Barry, > > I had similar difficulties while researching my Polish ancestors who > immigrated to the same area of Pennsylvania as yours did. I will > share my strategy in hopes that it helps you. My goal was to find the > village of birth for my ancestors. I was able to narrow it down to > three villages which all went to the same parish church in Poland. I > found the Polish church records for my ancestors and met a living > relative in Poland. I hope you are at least as successful. > > I cast a wider net. Relying on the idea of chain migration, I searched > for every possible record in the US for anyone with surnames similar > to my ancestors and who lived in a certain geographical area in > Pennsylvania (for you, that may be a certain number of towns around > Wilkes Barre). Alternative spellings were significant here. I placed > all my data from these records in a large spread sheet. This allowed > me to compare the data. The records include: > > ships passenger lists > naturalization records > census records in Pennsylvania > mining accidents (my ancestors worked in the mines in Pennsylvania) > WWI draft records > Haller's Army records > cemetery records in Pennsylvania > wills in Pennsylvania > court documents in Pennsylvania > church records in Pennsylvania where they lived (these were very > valuable, as frequently they list the providence or village of birth > in Poland) > civil marriage records in Pennsylvania > newspapers > etc. > > I did the same research for anyone listed as a sponsor on any > christening and/or witness on any marriage. > > When working with passenger lists, I searched for anyone with similar > surnames to my ancestors. I put their data in my spreadsheet. For > passengers listed just above or just below on the passenger lists, if > they were from the same village or province, I put them in my > spreadsheet, as well (regardless of surname). > Of particular help was Steve Morse's database search engine. I used > it to search passenger lists for everyone from the same village or > province in Poland. > http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html > > Also, in identifying villages, the following website was extremely > helpful: > http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp > > I did the same research for anyone who married into the family either > in Poland or in the US. > > This required a significant amount of work, but was worth it. I found > that people with surnames similar to my ancestors (who immigrated to > the same area of Pennsylvania) were born in three villages and > attended the same parish church in Poland. So, I made an educated > guess that my ancestors came from one of these three villages. And I > was right! > > Happy Researching! And Good Luck! > Harriet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/

Hi Barry, I had similar difficulties while researching my Polish ancestors who immigrated to the same area of Pennsylvania as yours did. I will share my strategy in hopes that it helps you. My goal was to find the village of birth for my ancestors. I was able to narrow it down to three villages which all went to the same parish church in Poland. I found the Polish church records for my ancestors and met a living relative in Poland. I hope you are at least as successful. I cast a wider net. Relying on the idea of chain migration, I searched for every possible record in the US for anyone with surnames similar to my ancestors and who lived in a certain geographical area in Pennsylvania (for you, that may be a certain number of towns around Wilkes Barre). Alternative spellings were significant here. I placed all my data from these records in a large spread sheet. This allowed me to compare the data. The records include: ships passenger lists naturalization records census records in Pennsylvania mining accidents (my ancestors worked in the mines in Pennsylvania) WWI draft records Haller's Army records cemetery records in Pennsylvania wills in Pennsylvania court documents in Pennsylvania church records in Pennsylvania where they lived (these were very valuable, as frequently they list the providence or village of birth in Poland) civil marriage records in Pennsylvania newspapers etc. I did the same research for anyone listed as a sponsor on any christening and/or witness on any marriage. When working with passenger lists, I searched for anyone with similar surnames to my ancestors. I put their data in my spreadsheet. For passengers listed just above or just below on the passenger lists, if they were from the same village or province, I put them in my spreadsheet, as well (regardless of surname). Of particular help was Steve Morse's database search engine. I used it to search passenger lists for everyone from the same village or province in Poland. http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html Also, in identifying villages, the following website was extremely helpful: http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp I did the same research for anyone who married into the family either in Poland or in the US. This required a significant amount of work, but was worth it. I found that people with surnames similar to my ancestors (who immigrated to the same area of Pennsylvania) were born in three villages and attended the same parish church in Poland. So, I made an educated guess that my ancestors came from one of these three villages. And I was right! Happy Researching! And Good Luck! Harriet

Will be glad to help if you post the image of the original record somewhere on the internet and give us a link. Only by examining the original pages one can determine what's written there. Working from transcripts (done by people who do not know the language, history, geography and handwriting of the country) - for the most part - is completely useless. ella -----Original Message----- From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of barry kaminski Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 2:17 AM To: PolandBorderSurnames@rootsweb.com Subject: [PBS] Rominski and Kozatek families in Poland I am searching for the origins of my great grandparents in Poland. None of the records in America have helped thus far. My great grandparents were Gregory and Frances Kozatek(or Koziatek) Rominski (or Ruminski) and they arrived at Ellis Island on April 9,1899. This I found by accident since they are listed as Gezegorz Rieminusky. He arrived with Froncziska and their son Josef to join a brother-in-law, Adam David (?) in Wilkes-Barre, PA. It states that they left from Hamburg and that they came from Grebonka in the Lubelski province in Russian Poland. My grandmother always said that her family came from Warszawa and I have yet to find a Grebonka or Lubelski anywhere near Warsaw. My great grandmother had 2 sisters and a brother who I have found on Ellis Island records. The oldest sister, Rose DeMorat is listed as Rosalia Haberlart arriving on June 22, 1900 from Zebny in the Lomza province also departing from Hamburg. Her children, Josef and Felice, are listed as being Domorat, and her husband, that she is coming to join in Wilkes-Barre, PA, as Josef Domorad. Her husband arrived on November 18, 1899 from Ortrolojeso in Lomza province via Hamburg to join his brother Pete Domorad. My great grandmother's brother,Stanislaus Kozatek,and wife, Maria and daughter, Stanislawa arrived via Hamburg on April 20,1901 from Dzaha (some places listed as Dzalin), Lomza province. The wife and daughter were in quarantine for some time before being released to my great grandfather. The other sister I found arrived, again via Hamburg, on June 13, 1907 from Dyki or Grzyski, her name was correct as Katarina Block (or Bloch). She is listed as a widow age 38 coming to Lonsdale, R.I. to join a cousin Antonia Mrosz (?). I have found descendants of another brother, Josef Kozatek who was killed by a train in the early 1900's, in the Pawtucket, R.I. area. The newspaper report lists him as a Russian. All they can confirm is that the parents of the Kozatek siblings were Josef and Rosalia Sarniak Kozatek and that they were told they came from White Russia. [Church records from a brief marriage of my great grandmother state her mother was Rose Shumitski (?).] Realizing the difficulty people had with transcribing and translating the names and places from Polish, I still have come to a road block in finding any records that would help me find what towns they all came from. By the way, I have been able to trace the Kaminski side in the Suwalki (now Podlaskie region) back to the mid-1700's and that was with every male having 2 marriages! If anyone could be of any help I would greatly appreciate it, then perhaps I can make some headway in finding records in Poland. Thanks, Barry J.Kaminski ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barry, Are you familiar with the Rymut surname census for Poland? You can find it here: _http://www.herby.com.pl/naz_query.html_ (http://www.herby.com.pl/naz_query.html) I put Lubelski into the search "szukaj" box and there were 255 people with the surname Lubelski in Warsaw in the early 1990's. I do not know if this will be any help to you. This is the home page with the directions for using that search engine. _http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:5yQdg0YutksJ:nancy.polishsite.us/art158 jagafr.htm+rymut+Poland&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&ie=UTF-8_ (http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:5yQdg0YutksJ:nancy.polishsite.us/art158jagafr.htm+rymut+ Poland&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&ie=UTF-8) Reen

I am searching for the origins of my great grandparents in Poland. None of the records in America have helped thus far. My great grandparents were Gregory and Frances Kozatek(or Koziatek) Rominski (or Ruminski) and they arrived at Ellis Island on April 9,1899. This I found by accident since they are listed as Gezegorz Rieminusky. He arrived with Froncziska and their son Josef to join a brother-in-law, Adam David (?) in Wilkes-Barre, PA. It states that they left from Hamburg and that they came from Grebonka in the Lubelski province in Russian Poland.  My grandmother always said that her family came from Warszawa and I have yet to find a Grebonka or Lubelski anywhere near Warsaw. My great grandmother had 2 sisters and a brother who I have found on Ellis Island records.  The oldest sister, Rose DeMorat is listed as Rosalia Haberlart arriving on June 22, 1900 from Zebny in the Lomza province also departing from Hamburg. Her children, Josef and Felice, are listed as being Domorat, and her husband,  that she is coming to join in Wilkes-Barre, PA, as Josef Domorad. Her husband arrived on November 18, 1899 from Ortrolojeso in Lomza province via Hamburg to join his brother Pete Domorad.  My great grandmother's brother,Stanislaus Kozatek,and wife, Maria and daughter, Stanislawa arrived via Hamburg on April 20,1901 from Dzaha (some places listed as Dzalin), Lomza province.  The wife and daughter were in quarantine for some time before being released to my great grandfather. The other sister I found arrived, again via Hamburg, on June 13, 1907 from Dyki or Grzyski, her name was correct as Katarina Block (or Bloch).  She is listed as a widow age 38 coming to Lonsdale, R.I. to join a cousin Antonia Mrosz (?).   I have found descendants of another brother, Josef Kozatek who was killed by a train in the early 1900's, in the Pawtucket, R.I. area.  The newspaper report lists him as a Russian.  All they can confirm is that the parents of the Kozatek siblings were Josef and Rosalia Sarniak Kozatek and that they were told they came from White Russia.  [Church records from a brief marriage of my great grandmother state her mother was Rose Shumitski (?).]   Realizing the difficulty people had with transcribing and translating the names and places from Polish, I still have come to a road block in finding any records that would help me find what towns they all came from.  By the way, I have been able to trace the Kaminski side in the Suwalki (now Podlaskie region) back to the mid-1700's and that was with every male having 2 marriages!  If anyone could be of any help I would greatly appreciate it, then perhaps I can make some headway in finding records in Poland. Thanks, Barry J.Kaminski 

Try Google. :) 2009/12/26 Nicholas Prosinski <nprosinski@gmail.com> > Hi Tina and John: > > According to what I have so far, his immigration record when he came over > on > the ship said he was from a town called Jozefowo. I looked up and there > were quite a few towns in Poland bearing such a name. Through looking at > other Proszynskis that immigrated to this country, I found that most of > them > were from the Warsaw and Lomza areas. Plus, since my great-grandfather was > listed as being born in Russian Poland, I have reason to believe that he is > likely from one of the many Jozefowo's located in present-day Masovian > Voivodeship or possibly one of the four Jozefowo's located in Podlaskie > Voivodeship, which were both part of the Russian Empire at the time of his > birth in 1884. > > John, it's funny, yet coincidental that you mention that you mention New > Britain, CT. On that same ship record, that's the exact place that my > grandpa was listed as going as his final destination. If I read correctly, > there appeared to be an uncle with a name that I cannot decipher that had a > residence there at the time of his arrival in October 1905. With that > being > said, do you have any contact information for that film department? > > Thank you guys for you help! > > --Nick > > > > > > 2009/12/24 Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> > > > Nick, I do not recall if you have established where your family was in > > Poland???? > > > > Proszyński 21 Wa:2, Ch:4, Gd:1, Ka:6, Lu:4, Ol:1, Su:3 > > > > Prószyński 427 Wa:103, Bs:11, By:5, Ch:2, Ci:3, Cz:5, Gd:21, Go:24, > JG:23, > > Ka:6, Kn:8, Kr:2, Lu:50, Ło:30, Łd:14, NS:1, Ol:32, Op:6, Os:4, Pł:14, > > Pr:4, > > Ra:2, Sd:3, Sk:8, Su:25, Tb:4, To:1, Wł:2, Wr:11, Za:1, ZG:2 > > > > Rymut gives us two spellings for the name. Kazimierz's was the latter. > > > > wikipedia.org give says that he had a son named Kazimierz, Jr. and a > > daughter named Irena. His wife was named Dorothy and English born. > There > > is nothing more about her in the Wikipedia article. > > > > Kazimierz, Sr. died in a concentration camp in 1945. I think you may > need > > to show how you were related to him to locate his two descendants. I > think > > Mary's suggestions are good. See if you can find someplace on the > Internet > > where he was born. If you know where your ancestors came from, and they > > are > > close to the place, you may be related to him, but you are going to need > to > > do this the old fashioned way ... > > > > Tina > > > > Tina > > > > > > 2009/12/19 Nicholas Prosinski <nprosinski@gmail.com> > > > > > Good evening, > > > > > > Over the past few weeks I have been researching people who may be > related > > > to > > > me. One person really seemed to stand out though. In Poland, there > was > > a > > > gentleman by the name of Kazimierz Proszynski (1875-1945), who was an > > > inventor that perfected the motion picture camera at the turn of the > 20th > > > century. He appeared to be quite influential to the development of > > cinema, > > > especially in Poland. Since I already discovered that my last name was > > > originally spelled in the same way as his, I was naturally curious and > > now > > > I > > > am wondering if I could be related to this man. Does anyone know where > I > > > can find more information regarding Kazimierz's family tree, or could > > > somebody send me information on his siblings, relatives, parents, etc.? > > I > > > think it would be interesting to find a connection between his and my > > > families, if that is possible. > > > > > > Thank you very much, > > > > > > Nick Prosinski > > > > > > ----------- > > > C/3C NICHOLAS PROSINSKI, AFROTC > > > Delta Flight, Eagle Wing II, Detachment 610 > > > nicholas.prosinski@und.nodak.edu > > > nprosinski@gmail.com > > > 406-696-0026 > > > ----------- > > > "Mikołaj Pawła Proszynski" > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > --------- > C/3C NICHOLAS PROSINSKI, AFROTC > Delta Flight, Eagle Wing II, Detachment 610 > nicholas.prosinski@und.nodak.edu > nprosinski@gmail.com > 406-696-0026 > ----------- > "Mikołaj Pawła Proszynski" > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wow, I have so many places you have found for me to look! I would love the census pages. It sure gets confusing with folks changing names all the time. Carl apparently was called Charles by his parents when he got to America. He didn't change his name to Williams till he became a naturalized citizen. His mom married a Williams , so he decided he liked that name... Thanks you for so many directions to look. It amazes me that I found the site and found you!!!!I didn't have the foggiest what I was signing up for! Thanks , Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 3:13 PM To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Plinske > You certainly have quite a bit of information and documentation! > > Illinois Archives: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html > If you click on the Global Database Search, you will see several > databases to check for Plinske, Plinsky, and Plinski. Any marriage and > death records found can be ordered inexpensively online through > chicagogenealogy.com. > > Eugen and Emilie (index Ennilie) PLINSKY, with their children, arrived > at Ellis Island on March 30, 1892, on the ship Moravia. Free > registration required for Ellis Island; click to enlarge the ship > manifest. Their 'Hailing Place or Place of Starting' was listed as > Kinten, Austria; all census records and other online records show them > to be German. > http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=104919090864 > > Steve Morse search engine for Ellis Island: > http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html > > Records for Kinten, Germany, for 1803-1875 were microfilmed by the > Mormons and can found using the Place Search in the familysearch library > catalog: > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > Parish registers of baptisms and marriages for Kinten (Kr. Heydekrug), > Ostpreusen, Germany; now Kintai, Luthuania. Text in German. > By using 'view film notes', you can find the numbers of the microfilm to > order from a Family History Center. > 1810870, 1810869, 1810871 Items 1-2 > Location of Family History Centers: > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp > > At the pilot site for family search, you can download the 1900 census > for the family in Cook County. It is indexed as Chas Planske, appears > at the bottom of the page and continues on the next page. > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1325221 > > For census purposes in 1900 and 1910, Eugene used the name Charles and > his death certificate may be under that name in the deaths in the > Chicago Archives. In 1920, Amelia, widow, and children are found in > Cook County. Let me know if you would like me to send you the census > pages. > > There is a downloadable birth certificate for August Wilhelm Plinsky, > son of Eugene Plinsky and Emilie Berman, from Kinten, Germany in the > Cook County Birth database at the familysearch pilot site, also. > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1462519 > > You may know the spouses of Charles and his brother and sisters; if so, > you may find the marriage records at: > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1463145 > > All collections at familysearch pilot site are found here: > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0;p=allCollections > > Did your grandfather Charles Plinske change his name to Charles > Williams? What was the name of his wife? He was still living with his > mother in 1920, so marriage occurred after that. > > Best wishes on your search, > Mary > > Ellie Dowling wrote: >> Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several >> places >> and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I have >> on >> Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so far >> no >> success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try >> different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his >> naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when I >> went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under >> either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my >> grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. >> I >> tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried some >> Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't >> succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the >> advice >> I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> >> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 PM >> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) >> >> >>> Ellie Dowling wrote: I know my grandfathers name, Charles Rollo >>> Plinske, and his birth and death >>> dates .but I want to find out more about his origins. >>> >>> Ellie, >>> >>> The information you seek will be in documents in the United States. >>> Documentation will be your key to finding information. If you post >>> where your grandfather lived and died, dates, names of wife, children, >>> brothers, sisters, we may be able to jump start your search for you. >>> The courthouse of the county where your father died will have his death >>> certificate, which can give place of birth. Naturalization papers may >>> be filed there, also. If you know the church he attended, you can >>> contact the church for records, also. There was more than one Charles >>> Plinske in census records (Kansas, Michigan, Connecticut, Wisconsin, >>> Missouri, Chicago), so more specific information will help us help you. >>> >>> You can search at ancestry.com without cost. If you click on the link >>> below, you can see what is available to know whether you wish to >>> subscribe to see the information. Members of this list have >>> subscriptions to various databases. Just let us know so we can try to >>> get you started! >>> http://www.ancestry.com/search/ >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, I missed the brackets. I think it will be things like that might confuse me from time to time. I am still so excited that one site cleared up something that no one in the family knew, including Charles Daughter who is the only family left. I was just about to call her so I am glad I checked my emails first so I didn't mis- inform her. She will be thrilled! Ellie From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:29 PM To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Plinske > Notice the } (brackets) on the manifest - showing the whole family from > Austria and Kinten. It was the entry above the family that you are > seeing from Russia. > > Mary > > Ellie Dowling wrote: >> Mary!!!! Your Wonderful!!!! I am so amazed! It runs chills up my back to >> see those record and imagine the hopes and fears of my family as they >> embarked on a new life. I can't thank you enough!!! I am a little >> confused >> because upon looking at how they wrote the manifest, it looks as if Eugen >> came from Russia, but his kids were from AustriaTo save time writing it >> looked as if they just did check marks till they came to a word change. >> and >> the Austria notation doesn't start till the kids are mentioned. It looks >> as >> if the checks are for someplace called Fesnamky or Fesnanchy Russia. >> anyway, thanks you so much, I never dreamed I could get so much >> information >> off one site! Thankyou , Thankyou, Thankyou!!!!!!!! Ellie >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 3:13 PM >> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Plinske >> >> >>> You certainly have quite a bit of information and documentation! >>> >>> Illinois Archives: >>> http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html >>> If you click on the Global Database Search, you will see several >>> databases to check for Plinske, Plinsky, and Plinski. Any marriage and >>> death records found can be ordered inexpensively online through >>> chicagogenealogy.com. >>> >>> Eugen and Emilie (index Ennilie) PLINSKY, with their children, arrived >>> at Ellis Island on March 30, 1892, on the ship Moravia. Free >>> registration required for Ellis Island; click to enlarge the ship >>> manifest. Their 'Hailing Place or Place of Starting' was listed as >>> Kinten, Austria; all census records and other online records show them >>> to be German. >>> http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=104919090864 >>> >>> Steve Morse search engine for Ellis Island: >>> http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html >>> >>> Records for Kinten, Germany, for 1803-1875 were microfilmed by the >>> Mormons and can found using the Place Search in the familysearch library >>> catalog: >>> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp >>> Parish registers of baptisms and marriages for Kinten (Kr. Heydekrug), >>> Ostpreusen, Germany; now Kintai, Luthuania. Text in German. >>> By using 'view film notes', you can find the numbers of the microfilm to >>> order from a Family History Center. >>> 1810870, 1810869, 1810871 Items 1-2 >>> Location of Family History Centers: >>> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp >>> >>> At the pilot site for family search, you can download the 1900 census >>> for the family in Cook County. It is indexed as Chas Planske, appears >>> at the bottom of the page and continues on the next page. >>> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1325221 >>> >>> For census purposes in 1900 and 1910, Eugene used the name Charles and >>> his death certificate may be under that name in the deaths in the >>> Chicago Archives. In 1920, Amelia, widow, and children are found in >>> Cook County. Let me know if you would like me to send you the census >>> pages. >>> >>> There is a downloadable birth certificate for August Wilhelm Plinsky, >>> son of Eugene Plinsky and Emilie Berman, from Kinten, Germany in the >>> Cook County Birth database at the familysearch pilot site, also. >>> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1462519 >>> >>> You may know the spouses of Charles and his brother and sisters; if so, >>> you may find the marriage records at: >>> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1463145 >>> >>> All collections at familysearch pilot site are found here: >>> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0;p=allCollections >>> >>> Did your grandfather Charles Plinske change his name to Charles >>> Williams? What was the name of his wife? He was still living with his >>> mother in 1920, so marriage occurred after that. >>> >>> Best wishes on your search, >>> Mary >>> >>> Ellie Dowling wrote: >>> >>>> Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several >>>> places >>>> and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I >>>> have >>>> on >>>> Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so >>>> far >>>> no >>>> success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try >>>> different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his >>>> naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when >>>> I >>>> went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under >>>> either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my >>>> grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. >>>> I >>>> tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried >>>> some >>>> Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't >>>> succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the >>>> advice >>>> I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 PM >>>> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ellie Dowling wrote: I know my grandfathers name, Charles Rollo >>>>> Plinske, and his birth and death >>>>> dates .but I want to find out more about his origins. >>>>> >>>>> Ellie, >>>>> >>>>> The information you seek will be in documents in the United States. >>>>> Documentation will be your key to finding information. If you post >>>>> where your grandfather lived and died, dates, names of wife, children, >>>>> brothers, sisters, we may be able to jump start your search for you. >>>>> The courthouse of the county where your father died will have his >>>>> death >>>>> certificate, which can give place of birth. Naturalization papers may >>>>> be filed there, also. If you know the church he attended, you can >>>>> contact the church for records, also. There was more than one Charles >>>>> Plinske in census records (Kansas, Michigan, Connecticut, Wisconsin, >>>>> Missouri, Chicago), so more specific information will help us help >>>>> you. >>>>> >>>>> You can search at ancestry.com without cost. If you click on the link >>>>> below, you can see what is available to know whether you wish to >>>>> subscribe to see the information. Members of this list have >>>>> subscriptions to various databases. Just let us know so we can try to >>>>> get you started! >>>>> http://www.ancestry.com/search/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Notice the } (brackets) on the manifest - showing the whole family from Austria and Kinten. It was the entry above the family that you are seeing from Russia. Mary Ellie Dowling wrote: > Mary!!!! Your Wonderful!!!! I am so amazed! It runs chills up my back to > see those record and imagine the hopes and fears of my family as they > embarked on a new life. I can't thank you enough!!! I am a little confused > because upon looking at how they wrote the manifest, it looks as if Eugen > came from Russia, but his kids were from AustriaTo save time writing it > looked as if they just did check marks till they came to a word change. and > the Austria notation doesn't start till the kids are mentioned. It looks as > if the checks are for someplace called Fesnamky or Fesnanchy Russia. > anyway, thanks you so much, I never dreamed I could get so much information > off one site! Thankyou , Thankyou, Thankyou!!!!!!!! Ellie > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 3:13 PM > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Plinske > > >> You certainly have quite a bit of information and documentation! >> >> Illinois Archives: >> http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html >> If you click on the Global Database Search, you will see several >> databases to check for Plinske, Plinsky, and Plinski. Any marriage and >> death records found can be ordered inexpensively online through >> chicagogenealogy.com. >> >> Eugen and Emilie (index Ennilie) PLINSKY, with their children, arrived >> at Ellis Island on March 30, 1892, on the ship Moravia. Free >> registration required for Ellis Island; click to enlarge the ship >> manifest. Their 'Hailing Place or Place of Starting' was listed as >> Kinten, Austria; all census records and other online records show them >> to be German. >> http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=104919090864 >> >> Steve Morse search engine for Ellis Island: >> http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html >> >> Records for Kinten, Germany, for 1803-1875 were microfilmed by the >> Mormons and can found using the Place Search in the familysearch library >> catalog: >> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp >> Parish registers of baptisms and marriages for Kinten (Kr. Heydekrug), >> Ostpreusen, Germany; now Kintai, Luthuania. Text in German. >> By using 'view film notes', you can find the numbers of the microfilm to >> order from a Family History Center. >> 1810870, 1810869, 1810871 Items 1-2 >> Location of Family History Centers: >> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp >> >> At the pilot site for family search, you can download the 1900 census >> for the family in Cook County. It is indexed as Chas Planske, appears >> at the bottom of the page and continues on the next page. >> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1325221 >> >> For census purposes in 1900 and 1910, Eugene used the name Charles and >> his death certificate may be under that name in the deaths in the >> Chicago Archives. In 1920, Amelia, widow, and children are found in >> Cook County. Let me know if you would like me to send you the census >> pages. >> >> There is a downloadable birth certificate for August Wilhelm Plinsky, >> son of Eugene Plinsky and Emilie Berman, from Kinten, Germany in the >> Cook County Birth database at the familysearch pilot site, also. >> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1462519 >> >> You may know the spouses of Charles and his brother and sisters; if so, >> you may find the marriage records at: >> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1463145 >> >> All collections at familysearch pilot site are found here: >> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0;p=allCollections >> >> Did your grandfather Charles Plinske change his name to Charles >> Williams? What was the name of his wife? He was still living with his >> mother in 1920, so marriage occurred after that. >> >> Best wishes on your search, >> Mary >> >> Ellie Dowling wrote: >> >>> Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several >>> places >>> and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I have >>> on >>> Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so far >>> no >>> success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try >>> different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his >>> naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when I >>> went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under >>> either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my >>> grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. >>> I >>> tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried some >>> Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't >>> succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the >>> advice >>> I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 PM >>> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) >>> >>> >>> >>>> Ellie Dowling wrote: I know my grandfathers name, Charles Rollo >>>> Plinske, and his birth and death >>>> dates .but I want to find out more about his origins. >>>> >>>> Ellie, >>>> >>>> The information you seek will be in documents in the United States. >>>> Documentation will be your key to finding information. If you post >>>> where your grandfather lived and died, dates, names of wife, children, >>>> brothers, sisters, we may be able to jump start your search for you. >>>> The courthouse of the county where your father died will have his death >>>> certificate, which can give place of birth. Naturalization papers may >>>> be filed there, also. If you know the church he attended, you can >>>> contact the church for records, also. There was more than one Charles >>>> Plinske in census records (Kansas, Michigan, Connecticut, Wisconsin, >>>> Missouri, Chicago), so more specific information will help us help you. >>>> >>>> You can search at ancestry.com without cost. If you click on the link >>>> below, you can see what is available to know whether you wish to >>>> subscribe to see the information. Members of this list have >>>> subscriptions to various databases. Just let us know so we can try to >>>> get you started! >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/search/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Mary!!!! Your Wonderful!!!! I am so amazed! It runs chills up my back to see those record and imagine the hopes and fears of my family as they embarked on a new life. I can't thank you enough!!! I am a little confused because upon looking at how they wrote the manifest, it looks as if Eugen came from Russia, but his kids were from AustriaTo save time writing it looked as if they just did check marks till they came to a word change. and the Austria notation doesn't start till the kids are mentioned. It looks as if the checks are for someplace called Fesnamky or Fesnanchy Russia. anyway, thanks you so much, I never dreamed I could get so much information off one site! Thankyou , Thankyou, Thankyou!!!!!!!! Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 3:13 PM To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Plinske > You certainly have quite a bit of information and documentation! > > Illinois Archives: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html > If you click on the Global Database Search, you will see several > databases to check for Plinske, Plinsky, and Plinski. Any marriage and > death records found can be ordered inexpensively online through > chicagogenealogy.com. > > Eugen and Emilie (index Ennilie) PLINSKY, with their children, arrived > at Ellis Island on March 30, 1892, on the ship Moravia. Free > registration required for Ellis Island; click to enlarge the ship > manifest. Their 'Hailing Place or Place of Starting' was listed as > Kinten, Austria; all census records and other online records show them > to be German. > http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=104919090864 > > Steve Morse search engine for Ellis Island: > http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html > > Records for Kinten, Germany, for 1803-1875 were microfilmed by the > Mormons and can found using the Place Search in the familysearch library > catalog: > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > Parish registers of baptisms and marriages for Kinten (Kr. Heydekrug), > Ostpreusen, Germany; now Kintai, Luthuania. Text in German. > By using 'view film notes', you can find the numbers of the microfilm to > order from a Family History Center. > 1810870, 1810869, 1810871 Items 1-2 > Location of Family History Centers: > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp > > At the pilot site for family search, you can download the 1900 census > for the family in Cook County. It is indexed as Chas Planske, appears > at the bottom of the page and continues on the next page. > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1325221 > > For census purposes in 1900 and 1910, Eugene used the name Charles and > his death certificate may be under that name in the deaths in the > Chicago Archives. In 1920, Amelia, widow, and children are found in > Cook County. Let me know if you would like me to send you the census > pages. > > There is a downloadable birth certificate for August Wilhelm Plinsky, > son of Eugene Plinsky and Emilie Berman, from Kinten, Germany in the > Cook County Birth database at the familysearch pilot site, also. > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1462519 > > You may know the spouses of Charles and his brother and sisters; if so, > you may find the marriage records at: > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1463145 > > All collections at familysearch pilot site are found here: > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0;p=allCollections > > Did your grandfather Charles Plinske change his name to Charles > Williams? What was the name of his wife? He was still living with his > mother in 1920, so marriage occurred after that. > > Best wishes on your search, > Mary > > Ellie Dowling wrote: >> Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several >> places >> and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I have >> on >> Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so far >> no >> success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try >> different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his >> naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when I >> went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under >> either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my >> grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. >> I >> tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried some >> Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't >> succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the >> advice >> I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> >> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 PM >> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) >> >> >>> Ellie Dowling wrote: I know my grandfathers name, Charles Rollo >>> Plinske, and his birth and death >>> dates .but I want to find out more about his origins. >>> >>> Ellie, >>> >>> The information you seek will be in documents in the United States. >>> Documentation will be your key to finding information. If you post >>> where your grandfather lived and died, dates, names of wife, children, >>> brothers, sisters, we may be able to jump start your search for you. >>> The courthouse of the county where your father died will have his death >>> certificate, which can give place of birth. Naturalization papers may >>> be filed there, also. If you know the church he attended, you can >>> contact the church for records, also. There was more than one Charles >>> Plinske in census records (Kansas, Michigan, Connecticut, Wisconsin, >>> Missouri, Chicago), so more specific information will help us help you. >>> >>> You can search at ancestry.com without cost. If you click on the link >>> below, you can see what is available to know whether you wish to >>> subscribe to see the information. Members of this list have >>> subscriptions to various databases. Just let us know so we can try to >>> get you started! >>> http://www.ancestry.com/search/ >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You certainly have quite a bit of information and documentation! Illinois Archives: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html If you click on the Global Database Search, you will see several databases to check for Plinske, Plinsky, and Plinski. Any marriage and death records found can be ordered inexpensively online through chicagogenealogy.com. Eugen and Emilie (index Ennilie) PLINSKY, with their children, arrived at Ellis Island on March 30, 1892, on the ship Moravia. Free registration required for Ellis Island; click to enlarge the ship manifest. Their 'Hailing Place or Place of Starting' was listed as Kinten, Austria; all census records and other online records show them to be German. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=104919090864 Steve Morse search engine for Ellis Island: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html Records for Kinten, Germany, for 1803-1875 were microfilmed by the Mormons and can found using the Place Search in the familysearch library catalog: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Parish registers of baptisms and marriages for Kinten (Kr. Heydekrug), Ostpreusen, Germany; now Kintai, Luthuania. Text in German. By using 'view film notes', you can find the numbers of the microfilm to order from a Family History Center. 1810870, 1810869, 1810871 Items 1-2 Location of Family History Centers: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp At the pilot site for family search, you can download the 1900 census for the family in Cook County. It is indexed as Chas Planske, appears at the bottom of the page and continues on the next page. http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1325221 For census purposes in 1900 and 1910, Eugene used the name Charles and his death certificate may be under that name in the deaths in the Chicago Archives. In 1920, Amelia, widow, and children are found in Cook County. Let me know if you would like me to send you the census pages. There is a downloadable birth certificate for August Wilhelm Plinsky, son of Eugene Plinsky and Emilie Berman, from Kinten, Germany in the Cook County Birth database at the familysearch pilot site, also. http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1462519 You may know the spouses of Charles and his brother and sisters; if so, you may find the marriage records at: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1463145 All collections at familysearch pilot site are found here: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0;p=allCollections Did your grandfather Charles Plinske change his name to Charles Williams? What was the name of his wife? He was still living with his mother in 1920, so marriage occurred after that. Best wishes on your search, Mary Ellie Dowling wrote: > Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several places > and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I have on > Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so far no > success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try > different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his > naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when I > went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under > either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my > grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. I > tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried some > Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't > succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the advice > I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 PM > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) > > >> Ellie Dowling wrote: I know my grandfathers name, Charles Rollo >> Plinske, and his birth and death >> dates .but I want to find out more about his origins. >> >> Ellie, >> >> The information you seek will be in documents in the United States. >> Documentation will be your key to finding information. If you post >> where your grandfather lived and died, dates, names of wife, children, >> brothers, sisters, we may be able to jump start your search for you. >> The courthouse of the county where your father died will have his death >> certificate, which can give place of birth. Naturalization papers may >> be filed there, also. If you know the church he attended, you can >> contact the church for records, also. There was more than one Charles >> Plinske in census records (Kansas, Michigan, Connecticut, Wisconsin, >> Missouri, Chicago), so more specific information will help us help you. >> >> You can search at ancestry.com without cost. If you click on the link >> below, you can see what is available to know whether you wish to >> subscribe to see the information. Members of this list have >> subscriptions to various databases. Just let us know so we can try to >> get you started! >> http://www.ancestry.com/search/ >> >> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Roman, Haven't tried that yet, but I will . thanks for the help. Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roman" <romankal@verizon.net> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:59 AM To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) > Ellie, > > Have you tried searching on variations of the surname? > > I would suggest PLINSKI, PLINSKY, PLIŃSKI, PLENSKI, PLENSKY > > and perhaps female forms PLINSKA, PLENSKA. > > Roman > > On 12/28/2009 1:19 AM, Ellie Dowling wrote: >> Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several >> places >> and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I have >> on >> Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so far >> no >> success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try >> different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his >> naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when I >> went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under >> either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my >> grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. >> I >> tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried some >> Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't >> succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the >> advice >> I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ellie, Have you tried searching on variations of the surname? I would suggest PLINSKI, PLINSKY, PLIŃSKI, PLENSKI, PLENSKY and perhaps female forms PLINSKA, PLENSKA. Roman On 12/28/2009 1:19 AM, Ellie Dowling wrote: > Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several places > and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I have on > Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so far no > success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try > different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his > naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when I > went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under > either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my > grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. I > tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried some > Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't > succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the advice > I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year >

Thank You Mary! I just tried searching for the Plinske name several places and batted zero again...I wrote to Marlo with all the information I have on Charles and his dad Eugene Plinske. I tried the site mentioned and so far no success , but I need to go back to it when I am less tired, and try different combinations of the facts? that I do have. I have his naturalization papers, and even the record of his name change, but when I went to the cook County records in Illinois, I couldn't find him under either Charles Plinske or Charles Williams. I know when he married my grandmother and when he died and can't pull up anything on that either. I tried what I knew actual dates on first to see how it works. Tried some Ellis Island sites too and got nowhere.. Oh well, if at first I don't succeed I will continue to try. thanks for writing, I can use all the advice I can get. Ellie Oh Happy almost New Year -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 PM To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PBS] Charles Rollo Plinske - (was Genealogy Joy!) > Ellie Dowling wrote: I know my grandfathers name, Charles Rollo > Plinske, and his birth and death > dates .but I want to find out more about his origins. > > Ellie, > > The information you seek will be in documents in the United States. > Documentation will be your key to finding information. If you post > where your grandfather lived and died, dates, names of wife, children, > brothers, sisters, we may be able to jump start your search for you. > The courthouse of the county where your father died will have his death > certificate, which can give place of birth. Naturalization papers may > be filed there, also. If you know the church he attended, you can > contact the church for records, also. There was more than one Charles > Plinske in census records (Kansas, Michigan, Connecticut, Wisconsin, > Missouri, Chicago), so more specific information will help us help you. > > You can search at ancestry.com without cost. If you click on the link > below, you can see what is available to know whether you wish to > subscribe to see the information. Members of this list have > subscriptions to various databases. Just let us know so we can try to > get you started! > http://www.ancestry.com/search/ > > Regards, > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message