My father Antoni Gajewski came to the USA in 1914 on the Kronprinz Wilheim. The manifest lists point of departure as Bremen, Germany , it shows his last residence as Gelczyn, Russia and his father's name as Frank. On his Social security application, dated 12/3/1936, it shows his last place of employment in Duchny Stare, Poland. I'm trying to find out where he was born and can't find a town named Gelczyn in Russia or Poland. I looked at both since he left when Poland was part of the Russia Empire until 1921. John Gajewski

I must be lucky. I have my own drawer at the local FHC. They let me keep them for as long as I want. I think each FHC has it's own rules. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM, swiss77 <swiss77@cox.net> wrote: > FYI : They only keep the films if they have the room. When they run short > on > storage space, they go through the films, checking the back of the film > boxes to see which "permanent" films are being used. If films haven't been > used in a long time, that "permanent" film may be sent back to Salt Lake > City. That's why it's so important to fill in the back of the film box > whenever you use the film at the LDS FHC...if it's been awhile since I > looked at a particular film, I'll sometimes jot down a date on a film box > so > it won't end up being sent back to SLC. > > Carolyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS]STOPINSKI, LANDSHÖFT, HERMANSKI, BEHREND, STEGEN > > > This is wonderful news. You are a very lucky person. > > I have the microfilm for all of two churches and almost for another one on > permanent loan at my local FHC. I am always going back and finding more > data. Soon as you get a new generation, you have another branch to track. > I have only had time to do the downlines of the males in my family. i > still > need to do the same for the females. > > The fee for permanently keeping the film in the FHC is $16.75 each. If > your > family has been in that parish for hundreds of years, it may be worth it > for > you to do the same. > > Tina > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Maria Peck > <peckconstruction@interbaun.com>wrote: > > > Tina and Bronwyn, > > > > Thank you Bronwyn for those additional sites to research. You're > > correct - there is a lot of information there. I will take the time to > > review them over the next few weeks. > > > > Tina, I took your advice and I went to my family history centre and > > ordered three films covering Wartenburg Catholic baptism records for > > the time period I'm researching as well as one film containing > > marriage records. However, I've been told it can take up to six weeks > > before they arrive so I'll just have to be patient (when it comes to > > genealogy, not one of my better traits). There are sixteen films in > > all for the Catholic records and three films for the Evangelical > > records. I can see I'll be looking through a lot of film over the next > > few months. > > > > When I came home from work I was again browsing the web and came > > across a very interesting site on Wartenburg: > > > > http://www.familienforschung.jorczik-musik.de/ > > > > It is the webpage of Lothar Jorczik. To my utter amazement he has > > typed up the index for marriages in the Catholic Church of St. Anna in > > Wartenburg, Kreis Allenstein. Dates are from 1691 - 1900 with the > > exception of years 1765 - 1797 which are missing. I found the possible > > listing for my great great grandparents, Valentin LANDSHÖFT and > > Elisabeth BEHREND. The spelling of their names was slightly different. > > LANDSHÖFT was LAMSHOEFT and BEHREND was BEHRENDT. They were married > > April 29, 1850. Now I want to see the actual church record to verify > > the data. It looks as if Lothar still has some names to add as the > > listing for my great grandparents isn't there yet. Now that's what I > > consider a lucky break! > > > > The site also has some beautiful photographs of the town and some of > > the local people. Very interesting indeed. > > > > I'll keep you all posted on my progress. > > > > Again, thank you for your help. > > > > Maria > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

FYI : They only keep the films if they have the room. When they run short on storage space, they go through the films, checking the back of the film boxes to see which "permanent" films are being used. If films haven't been used in a long time, that "permanent" film may be sent back to Salt Lake City. That's why it's so important to fill in the back of the film box whenever you use the film at the LDS FHC...if it's been awhile since I looked at a particular film, I'll sometimes jot down a date on a film box so it won't end up being sent back to SLC. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [PBS]STOPINSKI, LANDSHÖFT, HERMANSKI, BEHREND, STEGEN This is wonderful news. You are a very lucky person. I have the microfilm for all of two churches and almost for another one on permanent loan at my local FHC. I am always going back and finding more data. Soon as you get a new generation, you have another branch to track. I have only had time to do the downlines of the males in my family. i still need to do the same for the females. The fee for permanently keeping the film in the FHC is $16.75 each. If your family has been in that parish for hundreds of years, it may be worth it for you to do the same. Tina On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Maria Peck <peckconstruction@interbaun.com>wrote: > Tina and Bronwyn, > > Thank you Bronwyn for those additional sites to research. You're > correct - there is a lot of information there. I will take the time to > review them over the next few weeks. > > Tina, I took your advice and I went to my family history centre and > ordered three films covering Wartenburg Catholic baptism records for > the time period I'm researching as well as one film containing > marriage records. However, I've been told it can take up to six weeks > before they arrive so I'll just have to be patient (when it comes to > genealogy, not one of my better traits). There are sixteen films in > all for the Catholic records and three films for the Evangelical > records. I can see I'll be looking through a lot of film over the next > few months. > > When I came home from work I was again browsing the web and came > across a very interesting site on Wartenburg: > > http://www.familienforschung.jorczik-musik.de/ > > It is the webpage of Lothar Jorczik. To my utter amazement he has > typed up the index for marriages in the Catholic Church of St. Anna in > Wartenburg, Kreis Allenstein. Dates are from 1691 - 1900 with the > exception of years 1765 - 1797 which are missing. I found the possible > listing for my great great grandparents, Valentin LANDSHÖFT and > Elisabeth BEHREND. The spelling of their names was slightly different. > LANDSHÖFT was LAMSHOEFT and BEHREND was BEHRENDT. They were married > April 29, 1850. Now I want to see the actual church record to verify > the data. It looks as if Lothar still has some names to add as the > listing for my great grandparents isn't there yet. Now that's what I > consider a lucky break! > > The site also has some beautiful photographs of the town and some of > the local people. Very interesting indeed. > > I'll keep you all posted on my progress. > > Again, thank you for your help. > > Maria > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is wonderful news. You are a very lucky person. I have the microfilm for all of two churches and almost for another one on permanent loan at my local FHC. I am always going back and finding more data. Soon as you get a new generation, you have another branch to track. I have only had time to do the downlines of the males in my family. i still need to do the same for the females. The fee for permanently keeping the film in the FHC is $16.75 each. If your family has been in that parish for hundreds of years, it may be worth it for you to do the same. Tina On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Maria Peck <peckconstruction@interbaun.com>wrote: > Tina and Bronwyn, > > Thank you Bronwyn for those additional sites to research. You're > correct - there is a lot of information there. I will take the time to > review them over the next few weeks. > > Tina, I took your advice and I went to my family history centre and > ordered three films covering Wartenburg Catholic baptism records for > the time period I'm researching as well as one film containing > marriage records. However, I've been told it can take up to six weeks > before they arrive so I'll just have to be patient (when it comes to > genealogy, not one of my better traits). There are sixteen films in > all for the Catholic records and three films for the Evangelical > records. I can see I'll be looking through a lot of film over the next > few months. > > When I came home from work I was again browsing the web and came > across a very interesting site on Wartenburg: > > http://www.familienforschung.jorczik-musik.de/ > > It is the webpage of Lothar Jorczik. To my utter amazement he has > typed up the index for marriages in the Catholic Church of St. Anna in > Wartenburg, Kreis Allenstein. Dates are from 1691 - 1900 with the > exception of years 1765 - 1797 which are missing. I found the possible > listing for my great great grandparents, Valentin LANDSHÖFT and > Elisabeth BEHREND. The spelling of their names was slightly different. > LANDSHÖFT was LAMSHOEFT and BEHREND was BEHRENDT. They were married > April 29, 1850. Now I want to see the actual church record to verify > the data. It looks as if Lothar still has some names to add as the > listing for my great grandparents isn't there yet. Now that's what I > consider a lucky break! > > The site also has some beautiful photographs of the town and some of > the local people. Very interesting indeed. > > I'll keep you all posted on my progress. > > Again, thank you for your help. > > Maria > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jakki, You can upload your mtDNA results for free from any testing company at both http://mitosearch.org and at http://dna.ancestry.com which can increase your chances of finding matches from other companies. If you got tested at ftdna, make sure you configure your kit to allow matches from the whole database, instead of just your surname project. Otherwise, there may be matches you will not know about, with people not in the same project. On 3/18/10, jakki szymanowski <jakkiszy@hotmail.com> wrote: > > If anyone's mtDNA is Haplogroup W4 please let me know. > > Jacqueline > >

If anyone's mtDNA is Haplogroup W4 please let me know. Jacqueline Jacqueline Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 jakkiszy@hotmail.com > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:19:36 -0800 > From: the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PBS] Mackiewicz DNA Project > > Hi Tina, > > Just in case the long url is a problem for folks to find or remember > or copy, there also is a surname search box on the home page at > http://familytreedna.com and all people have to do is search for > Mackiewicz and your project pops up! > > That's true for any surname. I also strongly recommend adding > membership in the Polish project as well as being in the Mackiewicz > project, as the Polish project owner's feedback on results and > matches is awesome, and you can then also see who else in the Polish > project has results like yours. > > On 3/18/10, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have begun a Mackiewicz DNA project. If there is a Mackiewicz reseacher > > interested in participating or if you know of anyone researching this > > surname, please refer them to this website: > > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Mackiewicz&code=U25640. > > That is the registered project with Family Tree DNA, which is based in > > Houston, Texas. If anyone is interested, they can order the test through > > the link on that page for my email address for contact regarding the > > project. It is probably best if they contact me first, because they may not > > have to take a full 67 marker test, which would save them money. Doing > > tests through the project versus on an individual basis is also less > > expensive. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2

Thank you Tina. This show, Who Do You Think You Are is fabulous and I urge everyone to watch. The other show is Faces Of America narrated by Harvard scholar Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. They have already been shown on PBS, but you can go to PBS.org and view the episodes. There is much good genealogical information given including the use of DNA and the autosomal DNA. Since genealogy appears to be a hot trend now, I have been asked to submit two articles to the local newspaper. Shaloha, Harriet Hoffman Honolulu, HI

Hi Tina, Just in case the long url is a problem for folks to find or remember or copy, there also is a surname search box on the home page at http://familytreedna.com and all people have to do is search for Mackiewicz and your project pops up! That's true for any surname. I also strongly recommend adding membership in the Polish project as well as being in the Mackiewicz project, as the Polish project owner's feedback on results and matches is awesome, and you can then also see who else in the Polish project has results like yours. On 3/18/10, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have begun a Mackiewicz DNA project. If there is a Mackiewicz reseacher > interested in participating or if you know of anyone researching this > surname, please refer them to this website: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Mackiewicz&code=U25640. > That is the registered project with Family Tree DNA, which is based in > Houston, Texas. If anyone is interested, they can order the test through > the link on that page for my email address for contact regarding the > project. It is probably best if they contact me first, because they may not > have to take a full 67 marker test, which would save them money. Doing > tests through the project versus on an individual basis is also less > expensive.

http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny has worked fine for me today, and yesterday... Bronwyn. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:31 PM, <SGemcutter@aol.com> wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/17/2010 11:58:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > SGemcutter@aol.com writes: > > i cannot find this site still > > > In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:24:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > chrishuk@aol.com writes: > > http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Who Do You Think You Are? is a series of shows on NBC on Friday nights. On the west coast they are on at 8 p.m. The first show I saw was the search for the ancestors of Sarah Jessica Parker. She learned that one of her great grandmothers was arrested in Salem, Massachusetts during the witch trials in the late 1700's. It turned out that the case never went to trial. It was the last one filed before a law came into effect banning them. It saved her from being burned at the stake. Last week the show featured retired football player Emmett Smith. He was from Alabama, but was able to search his family back to Mecklenburg County, Virginia where his 5th great grandmother was a slave. He learned that the was 7% native American through DNA testing, 12 % Caucasian and 81% African. His 5th great grandmother was willed to the first owner's son when the owner died. Through the blood test, Smith learned that his African ancestry was from Bedin, Africa. He went there and learned that today there is still a slave trade business in Bedin. Young children are being sold by their parents. This week the show features Lisa Kudrow, the actress from the TV show Friends. In the previews, it shows her going to Gdansk. On the ad on the Internet, it says she goes to Belarus in her search for her ancestry. She is also one of the executive producers for the show. In the upcoming weeks, they will feature episodes on Matthew Broderick, Spike Lee and Susan Sarandon. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700012878/NBCs-Who-Do-You-Think-You-Are-TV-series-explores-7-stars-family-histories.html?pg=2 Thought those of you who have not been watching the series may be interested in them. I'm very interested in the show with Lisa Kudrow since her ancestry is from the areas so many of us are researching. I have programmed my TV to go to that show tomorrow night. :) Tina Ells

Hello Everyone, I have begun a Mackiewicz DNA project. If there is a Mackiewicz reseacher interested in participating or if you know of anyone researching this surname, please refer them to this website: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Mackiewicz&code=U25640. That is the registered project with Family Tree DNA, which is based in Houston, Texas. If anyone is interested, they can order the test through the link on that page for my email address for contact regarding the project. It is probably best if they contact me first, because they may not have to take a full 67 marker test, which would save them money. Doing tests through the project versus on an individual basis is also less expensive. This should prove to be intersting. So far, we have two tests ordered for two different individuals. One is my cousin and the other one is on the father of another researcher. Tina Ellis

Ancestry Magazine shares my article on Displaced Persons in their March /April issue. Please see pp.30-33. This downloadable feature (pdf) from the March/April 2010 issue of Ancestry Magazine follows three projects that showcase how genealogy is being used to expand on textbook history. By focusing on families who were there when history happened, our trio of modern-day researchers is uncovering stories of the everyday that give us all a better understanding of how lives and history intertwine. http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2010/03/genealogy/what-a-project/ Ceil

thanks it worked this time thanks lou In a message dated 3/18/2010 11:43:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bronklimach@gmail.com writes: http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny

In a message dated 3/17/2010 11:58:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SGemcutter@aol.com writes: i cannot find this site still In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:24:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, chrishuk@aol.com writes: http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Seeker, You may also like to see who shows up as born in Warsaw gubernia in 1888 on this site: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/jriplweb.htm Good luck, Bronwyn. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com>wrote: > I have found some discrepancies in what you have posted, or perhaps, I have > found a totally different Harry Swiss. All of the mentioned records were > found listed at Ancestry.com. > > 1st Harry Swiss arrived by himself in 1906 at the age of 18 as a single > man: > > New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 > Name: Harry Swiss > Arrival Date: 22 Sep 1906 > Estimated birth year: abt 1888 > Age: 18 > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Southampton > Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Hebrew > Ship Name: St Louis > Port of Arrival: New York, New York > Line: 15 > Microfilm Serial: T715 > Microfilm Roll: T715_769 > Page Number: 51 > > He was going to the home of a sister, who was married to a man named Isaac > Akerman, who was living at 280 Stanton Street, NY, NY > > 2nd Harry Swiss arrived by himself in 1909 at that age of 21, as a married > man: > > New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 > about Harry Swiss > Name: Harry Swiss > Arrival Date: 7 Feb 1909 > Estimated birth year: abt 1888 > Age: 21 > Gender: Female (must be an error - he had a wife named R. Swiss in London) > Port of Departure: Southampton > Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Hebrew > Ship Name: Philadelphia > Port of Arrival: New York, New York > NATIVITY: Russia > Line: 10 > Microfilm Serial: T715 > Microfilm Roll: T715_1197 > Birth Location: Russia > Birth Location Other: Warsaw > Page Number: 16 > > This time he was going to the home of a brother listed as P. Swiss, with an > address of c/o Kleinman, 124 Orchard Street, NY, NY. His wife is listed as > R. Swiss, who is living in London at 14 ____field (Can't read all the > letters). > > Marriage record: > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 > Name: Harry Woolf Swiss > Year of Registration: 1909 > Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar > District: Mile End Old Town > County: London, Middlesex > Volume: 1c > Page: 468 > > Looks like he also filed to become a citizen of the US: > > Index to Declaration of Intent for Naturalization: New York County, > 1907-1924 > Name: Harry Swiss > Petition > Volume: 398 > Petition > Page: 340 > > In 1917 he filled out his WW I draft card stating he was born April 23, > 1888 > in Warsaw. Since all indications are that he was born in Warsaw, have you > tried searching records from Warsaw? That is the best place to begin to > further your research. The archives in Warsaw has the Warsaw Jewish birth > records for 1888. > > http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en&miejscowosc=Warszawa&gmina=&wojewodztwo_id=0&wyznanie_id=0&rodzajaktu_id=0&search=search > > Tina Ellis > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:57 AM, <SeekerOfLostKin@aol.com> wrote: > > > SCHWEISS/Swiss>Warsaw Russia>Liverpool>New York > > > > Isaac Schweiss and Harry Schweiss I found on ships records 1905 traveling > > from Liverpool to NY , and again in 1910 Liverpool to NY as Isaac Swiss > and > > Harry Swiss both said Hebrew race, born Russia (a photo of my grandfather > > as a child on back says warsawza(sp?) The only Schwiess' I find are > from > > Germany and all seem to have settled in Minnesota and out that way. > > > > Anybody come across or have Schweiss' in their tree? My grandfather Harry > > was a deckhand in British Merchant marines think he was 13. He also had a > > SS > > card that has his name as Harry Pomper, headstone says Harry Pomper > > Swiss. > > > > Any ideas or pointers would be greatly appreciated, I have been on this > > list for many years hoping that someone else will post looking for same > > family. > > > > Thanks in advance > > Stacey Lee-McDonald > > SCHWEISS/Swiss>Warsaw Russia>Liverpool>New York > > GRUSKY/Gress>Russia(keiv)>NY > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

i cannot find this site In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:24:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, chrishuk@aol.com writes: http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny.

Hi Jim.....How is registration for June trip coming along? How do I make payment Canadian from US? I sent an email to Ihor asking this question but didn't get an answer. I wish I could attend the upcoming meeting--if the speaker has a handout, please send me a copy or ask the speaker to do so: Ann Bainbridge 22 Stroudwater Place Westbrook, Maine, USA 04092 Phone: 240-344-4863 --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Jim Onyschuk <jodanji@rogers.com> wrote: > From: Jim Onyschuk <jodanji@rogers.com> > Subject: [PBS] Meeting of the Toronto Ukrainian Genealogy Group - (TUGG) > To: "EPOSHTA2" <myroslava@rogers.com>, Galicia_Poland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com, genealogy@infoukes.com, "KONTACT" <studio@kontakt.ca>, "Marta Olynyk EPOSHTA" <m.olynyk@sympatico.ca>, PolandBorderSurnames-L@rootsweb.com, "Svitohliad" <Stefan.Berezowsky@rci.rogers.com> > Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 2:19 PM > The Next Meeting of the Toronto > Ukrainian Genealogy Group - (TUGG) > > Will be held on Tues April 13, 2010 > > Dr. Romana Bahry (York University) - Will speak on > "Ukrainian Genealogy in Vienna, Austria." > > From 7:30 – 9:30 pm > St Vladimir Institute > 620 Spadina Avenue, Toronto. > Contact: (905)-841-6707 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Tina and Bronwyn, Thank you Bronwyn for those additional sites to research. You're correct - there is a lot of information there. I will take the time to review them over the next few weeks. Tina, I took your advice and I went to my family history centre and ordered three films covering Wartenburg Catholic baptism records for the time period I'm researching as well as one film containing marriage records. However, I've been told it can take up to six weeks before they arrive so I'll just have to be patient (when it comes to genealogy, not one of my better traits). There are sixteen films in all for the Catholic records and three films for the Evangelical records. I can see I'll be looking through a lot of film over the next few months. When I came home from work I was again browsing the web and came across a very interesting site on Wartenburg: http://www.familienforschung.jorczik-musik.de/ It is the webpage of Lothar Jorczik. To my utter amazement he has typed up the index for marriages in the Catholic Church of St. Anna in Wartenburg, Kreis Allenstein. Dates are from 1691 - 1900 with the exception of years 1765 - 1797 which are missing. I found the possible listing for my great great grandparents, Valentin LANDSHÖFT and Elisabeth BEHREND. The spelling of their names was slightly different. LANDSHÖFT was LAMSHOEFT and BEHREND was BEHRENDT. They were married April 29, 1850. Now I want to see the actual church record to verify the data. It looks as if Lothar still has some names to add as the listing for my great grandparents isn't there yet. Now that's what I consider a lucky break! The site also has some beautiful photographs of the town and some of the local people. Very interesting indeed. I'll keep you all posted on my progress. Again, thank you for your help. Maria

They are not in Makow Mazowiecki as Makow was not in the Prussian area. It was about 50 miles south of the Prussian division of Poland. Consequently, they would not be in any of the parishes close to Makow.The Prussian border started just north of Mlawa. -----Original Message----- From: Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 12:35 pm Subject: Re: [PBS] trying to figure out who my polish family was The LDS have the Roman Catholic records from 1666-1900 for Makow Mazowiecki. Szcynto is misspelled. It should be Szczytno. There are 7 places in Poland urrently with that name. Not knowing much about you family, I'm at a loss s to suggesting the one you want. I would begin with the closest ones to akow Mazowiecki, if they married in Poland. If they did not, you would ant to start with the ones closes to Makow Mazowiecki. The reason I say his is because many people, who came to the US, tended to settle close to eople already here, who were from places close to where they lived in oland. You will be trying to fing the correct place by the process of limination. This is the LDS online catalog: ttp://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. This is the site to locate an LDS Family History Center near you: ttp://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp. They will get ou started with ordering microfilm, and will show you how to search films nd help you with copying the records on the films. Records in Poland are filed by parish. You can used this site to determine he names of all of the parishes for places named Szczytno You can find hem using this Polish site: http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny. t consists of many textbooks called the Slownik Geograficzny Krolestwa olskiego (Geographic Gazetteer for the Kingdom of Poland). These books ere published between 1880 and 1902. Find the places named Szczytno in ook # XI (#11). If you do not know Polish, look for the words parafia and mina. the word following those words will be the name of the parish or mina in which the places are located. Gmina is a small administrative istrict with in a powiat (county) in which the places are located. I found no place in Eastern Europe named Brevier. On what record did you ind this place name? Tina Ellis On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:56 PM, roberta hall <jhallvoyager@att.net> wrote: > Yeah, that is the problem I'm trying to solve. I don't know where in Poland they came from. I posted a query on a Polish message board and I was given this information about the name Siemionkowski (I have a 2nd cousin who told me this is the Polish spelling but I have not seen the headstones so I don't know this for sure). Any way the respondent to my query wrote to say that the Polish letter "a" had a tail on it and that the spelling could be Siemiathowski. He then directed me to a website for Polish surnames where he typed in the name Siemiatkowski, on this map it has 10 location where in Poland this name is found. The largest concentration is in 2 towns: Szcytno (15 people) and Makow Mazowiecki (14 people). I don't known if this is the right place to look as I can't verify the spelling. Also I don't know if these town are current day names. I need to find the town names as of 1882. I live in a small usually quiet town called Darien. I was born and raised here. Darien has been in the news lately, the 3 family members shot by a friend of the daughters x-boy friend. My daughter graduated with the girl who hid in the closet and is the mother of the child of the now arrested father. What is your family name that you are looking for? Roberta ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Petraitis" <dorothykp@comcast.net> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] trying to figure out who my polish family was > Sounds like you are eligible for the DAR. > > I know how frustrating it is to hit that brick wall. Like you I have > some really great information but it is those dead ends that are so > hard to get around. For instance, I have a great uncle who was > hospitalized at a state hospital in New York. I have the family > "story" about him, I have his various addresses over the years, I > have letters he wrote while in the institution, I have his social > security number, I have his immigration records, and I have him and > his family in 1900 - l940 census records, I even have had contact with > a distant cousin whose family the great uncle lived with for a time. > It all stops there. I've written to the records department of the > state hospital without results. I may have to quite butting my head > against that brick wall, but . . . > > I may have missed it, but it seems that you do not have specific > information as to where in West Prussia your family comes from so you > have two problems: an exact location in Poland, and the variability > of the surname. Two things come to mind: 1)Have you tried National > Archives online? 2)How about a certified genealogist in Poland? > > I have obtained a good bit of Polish information through a genealogist > located in Torun near Warsaw. Most of my family came from either > Galicia or Bialystok neither close to where the genealogist is > located, but it beats beating my head against a wall I cannot knock > down. And I have a good translator who doesn't charge an arm and a leg. > > Where are you located in Chicago? I live in Evanston. If you'd like, > I'll send you my phone number. Like you, I am the only one in the > family who has any interest in geneology. They are interested in the > results but not in the process. > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > Dorothy > > Hi Dorothy, > I have a membership to Ancestry.com, I don't have the international > subscription though. I have worked on my fathers line for about 20 > years, > fortunately his family line has been here in the states since 1636, I > have > had little difficulty tracing his line. There were some slight name > changes > over the years but DNA has settled what part of the clan we descend > from. > > Ellis Island will be of no help to me. My family arrived here in 1882 at > that time Ellis Island was being used as an Ammunition storage facility. > Ellis Island didn't start receiving immigrants until 1890. > > I have census records for the family starting in 1900 thru my > subscription > with Ancestry.com. I was able to online locate newspaper obits for > many of > my great grandparents immediate family. I however didn't find the obit > for > Frank my great grandfather. I was able to obtain a copy of these obits > thru > the local libraries in Wis. where my family members lived. I even have a > funeral card for > my great grandmother in which a family member saved all these years. I > have > located on line a record for my great grandparents marriage license but > haven't been able to send off for a copy yet. > > It sounds like I have a lot to go on but as I have stated not knowing > the > actual spelling has caused serious brick walls. I do have an LDS site > about > 20 minutes from here but haven't used it in probably 20 years. Unless > I can > find clues on line I am unable to move forward. What I mean by that is I > work for a school dist. and my hours don't allow me to visit the center > while they are open. I do have time off in the summer but am unable to > get > in during that time as that's when everyone else flocks to the center. > > You have mentioned a couple of sites I haven't tried. I will look into > them. > Thank you for your suggestions and hopefully I will find a clue, no > matter > how small a clue is a clue that can only prove or disprove a hunch as > very > helpful. > > Thank you, > Roberta Hall > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D Petraitis" <dorothykp@comcast.net> > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:27 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS] trying to figure out who my polish family was > > >> Roberta, >> >> It seems you have much information that could lead to further >> discoveries. Have you tried Familysearch.org? That is the site of >> the Latter Day Saints. Try their International Geanealogical Index. >> >> Since you have the month, year and port of immigration, google Ellis >> Island and try a stearch. Search PGSA.org. Lots of information >> there. Join Polish Genealogical Society of America, attend >> conferences. They have lots of worhtwhile books listed at their site. >> >> Your library may have a subscription to Ancestry.com (limited edition) >> which you can search from your home computer if you have a library >> card. Join a couple of genealogy lists (can be found on rootsweb.com, >> search Polish, Poland, Surnames). Ancestry is a good place to search >> for census records. >> >> You have a wonderful start with your current information. What is >> the source of your current information? It sounds like starting at >> Ellis Island would give you lots more information if you can find >> Arrival and Departure Documents. >> >> Google your closest Mormon Family History Library (LDS). There are >> several in the Metro Chicago area. >> >> Happpy Hunting, >> Dorothy >> On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:17 AM, roberta hall wrote: >> >> Hi my name is Roberta Hall. I am a 5th generation Polish American. I >> have no Polish heritage left as my family has fully integrated the >> American way of life. Only Polish I have left is in my blood, only >> wish I knew how to speak the language. >> >> My ancestor's arrived in the States via the Port of New York in >> December of 1882. Their names have been Americanized and based on >> documents I have found not one person spelled it the same way. >> This is want I have: >> 1) My great great grandparents: Joseph Schemenkowski and Mary >> Wisnovsky/Wisnewski. >> >> 1900 W. Kewaunee, Kewaunee Co., Wis. USA >> Household # 252 >> Scimenkufsky, Joseph b. Dec. 1838 in Polish, Rus. (possibly Brevier?) >> Mary (wife) b. Jan. 1847 in Polish, Ger. >> Anna (dau.) b. Jun. 1878 in Polish, Ger. >> Frank (son) b. Oct. 1879 in Polish, Ger. >> Daniel (son) b. Dec. 1883 in Wis., USA >> >> 2) Frank my great grandfather's marriage license is spelled Franz, >> Sieniskowski. He married in Wisconsin in 1901. >> >> 3) Frank believed he was a citizen of the U.S. based on the papers his >> father showed him. I don't have a copy of those papers but Frank was 3 >> at the time the family emigrated to the States. As it turned out >> Frank was not naturalized at the time of emigration so in 1913 he >> filed papers to naturalize. On those papers Frank spells his name >> Shenenkowfski. He states he was born in West Prussia, Germany and that >> he emigrated thru Bremen in November of 1882 arriving in New York in >> December of that same year. He doesn't know the name of the ship. >> >> 4) Generations of the family follow the Catholic religion. >> buried at St. Hedwig Catholic Cemetery >> Schemenkowski, Joseph, wife Mary, son Frank his wife Eva, >> grand son Louis his wife Sophie, and great grand children Louis and >> Regina. Along with son John Wisnicky. >> buried in another Catholic cemetery is another of Joseph and >> Mary's son's Daniel Sheninkosky. >> >> The correct spelling of the name is an obvious issue and has made my >> search difficult. I have no experience researching in Polish archives >> and language would be a problem and I can't read or speak it. >> >> Can anyone help me, I would really appreciate it. My grandmother has >> since passed but she had 8 children resulting in 27 grand children. I >> am the only one in the family who is attempting to find our roots. I >> have many cousins waiting to see what I can learn. >> >> Thank you to anyone who can help, >> Roberta Hall >> Chicago, Ill. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

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