thank you Jadwiga >From: "Jadwiga Tabor" <igatabor@gmail.com> >Reply-To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com >To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PBS] Online Poland Telephone Directory - Bryzgiel >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:08:46 +0200 > >wojewodztwo: podlaskie >miasto: Bryzgiel >nazwisko: ? >regards, > > > >2007/6/21, Maryann Maciejewski <maryann_mack@hotmail.com>: > > > > I am looking for family in Bryzgiel. Does anyone know if this is part >of > > a > > village name in that phone directory? > > > > thanks for any offerings of help, > > Maryann > > > > > > >From: "vellis@jps.net" <vellis@jps.net> > > >Reply-To: vellis@jps.net, polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > > >To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [PBS] Online Poland Telephone Directory > > >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:02:33 -0400 > > > > > >Hi Everyone, > > > > > >I do not know why, but the wildcard % no longer works on the online > > >telephone directory @ http://www.ksiazka-telefoniczna.com/anymore. >Maybe > > >it became over used, and it caused their system to become jambed. You > > now > > >have to know the name of the village where anyone lives in order to >find > > >listings on your family surnames in all of the provinces. > > > > > >Tina Ellis > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft(r) Windows(r) and Linux web and >application > > >hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >-- >igatabor@gmail.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Fred. Shannan M Hinners "No matter what happens in life, remember that you don't have the power to control everything, But you do have the power to control how it affects you." -- Richard Llewellyn -----Original Message----- From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hoffman Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:19 PM To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Subject: [PBS] Letter from State Archive in Krakow Hi, John Dybowski <jdybowski@roadrunner.com> asked for help understanding a note from the Polish State Archives branch in Krakow. Shannon Hinners kindly offered a translation, but I'm afraid it was not too clear. The note said the Archive searched the records of the Roman Catholic parish in Iwanowice, to which the Sulkowice now in Krakow county belonged at the time in question, but found no birth records for Andrzej or Antoni Dybowski. They added that there are two other places named Sulkowice in Krakow province, one a town in Myslenice county, the other a village near Andrychow in Wadowice county. The records for those places are not held by the Archive, so they can't search them. If you're interested, they suggest contacting the Roman Catholic parish churches that would have the records in question. For the Sulkowice near Myslenice, the address is: Parafii Najswietszego Serca Pana Jezusa w Sulkowicach ul. Tysiaclecia 1a 32-440 Sulkowice POLAND For the one near Andrychow, the address is: Parafii Milosierdzia Bozego w Sulkowicah-Legu ul. Koscielna 8 34-120 Sulkowice-Leg POLAND To sum up, there are no birth records for Andrzej or Antoni Dybowski in the Sulkowice records the Archive possesses. But there are two other places named Sulkowice, and the Archive does not have those records. It makes sense to contact them, and see if that leads anywhere. You'll have to contact the individual parish churches for that -- unless, of course, the records you need are available from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. I assume you checked that first, since dealing with the FHL is much faster and cheaper than writing to Poland. I checked the FHL catalog just now and didn't find any records for any of the Sulkowices, so I'd say writing the individual churches is the next logical step. If you need help writing a letter in Polish, there's a letter-writing guide here: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/rg/images/36339_LWGPolish.pdf So one Sulkowice is a dead end -- maybe one of the other two will turn out to be the right one. Good luck! Fred Hoffman ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, John Dybowski <jdybowski@roadrunner.com> asked for help understanding a note from the Polish State Archives branch in Krakow. Shannon Hinners kindly offered a translation, but I'm afraid it was not too clear. The note said the Archive searched the records of the Roman Catholic parish in Iwanowice, to which the Sulkowice now in Krakow county belonged at the time in question, but found no birth records for Andrzej or Antoni Dybowski. They added that there are two other places named Sulkowice in Krakow province, one a town in Myslenice county, the other a village near Andrychow in Wadowice county. The records for those places are not held by the Archive, so they can't search them. If you're interested, they suggest contacting the Roman Catholic parish churches that would have the records in question. For the Sulkowice near Myslenice, the address is: Parafii Najswietszego Serca Pana Jezusa w Sulkowicach ul. Tysiaclecia 1a 32-440 Sulkowice POLAND For the one near Andrychow, the address is: Parafii Milosierdzia Bozego w Sulkowicah-Legu ul. Koscielna 8 34-120 Sulkowice-Leg POLAND To sum up, there are no birth records for Andrzej or Antoni Dybowski in the Sulkowice records the Archive possesses. But there are two other places named Sulkowice, and the Archive does not have those records. It makes sense to contact them, and see if that leads anywhere. You'll have to contact the individual parish churches for that -- unless, of course, the records you need are available from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. I assume you checked that first, since dealing with the FHL is much faster and cheaper than writing to Poland. I checked the FHL catalog just now and didn't find any records for any of the Sulkowices, so I'd say writing the individual churches is the next logical step. If you need help writing a letter in Polish, there's a letter-writing guide here: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/rg/images/36339_LWGPolish.pdf So one Sulkowice is a dead end -- maybe one of the other two will turn out to be the right one. Good luck! Fred Hoffman

Are you related to the Strelczyk family that came from the village of Stabienszczyzna, Poland from the parish of Sejny? This is on the eastern border of Poland with Lithuania.  I have information on this family going back to about 1795.  It seems that the family was originally from a village of Ryngielowicz in Lithuania. -----Original Message----- From: Warren Strelcheck <Strlczyk@charter.net> To: Rootsweb <PolandBordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 1:35 am Subject: [PBS] research help Hello: I need some help in obtaining a clear copy of my GGF's naturalization etition.The micro-fish that I copied has since gone missing from the Michigan ibrary.Can someone help me? The petition is to The Michigan circut court for ogebic county dated 11/05/1906 for George Strzelczyk and signed by A D ohnston. I would be willing to discuss payment for your research if necessary. hanks so much Warren Strlczyk@charter.net ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

John, Here's a translation as I understand it. This is in answer to your letters of archives in Krakow II 843-14/07 N Panstwowe, stored in local stock in records of civil statuses of Roman Catholic parishs 1810-1831 ( Iwanowicach, 1835-1906 ), for which przynalezaly Sulkowice, Kracow administrative district presently, recover your records of birth - Andrzej Dybowskiego, ur. In 28 November 1870 (1869) Sulkowicach; - Antoniego Dybowskiego, ur. to 12 May 1906 Sulkowicach. We informed the other two in Kracow province called Znajduja sie Miejscowosci Sulkowice you will say city in Sulkowice Myslenickim and in gmina wies Sulkowice Andrychów, you will say in wadowickim. However, records of civil statuses from the archives in Poland stored not limited to miejscowosci zadnym panstwowych. In case of interest in records with searches from Metrykalnych Sulkowic k. Myslenic and Sulkowic k. Andrychowa, Therefore, we suggest to properly sie zwrócic (write) to - Parish Heart Mr. Jesus Najswietszego Sulkowicach Street 1 Tysiaclecia 32-440 Sulkowice tel 012 273 25 46 ( Sulkowic. k. ) Myslenic; To - Parish Milosierdzia Bozego Sulkowicah-Legu, Street 8 Koscielna 34-120 Sulkowice-Leg tel 033 875 25 24 ( Sulkowic k. ) Andrychowa; Where they store moga byc. With Regards Powazaniem Pawel Zabczynski *The Polish that I could not translate are titles with no translation. I hope this helps.* Shannan M Hinners "No matter what happens in life, remember that you don't have the power to control everything, But you do have the power to control how it affects you." -- Richard Llewellyn -----Original Message----- From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John R Dybowski Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 6:57 AM To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Subject: [PBS] Letter from State Archive in Krakow Can someone out there please give me a hand? I received this letter today in my email from the State Archive in Krakow, however I can't seem to get the translation down in the online translators. I am not asking for a word for word translation, but rather just basically what it is telling me would be suffice. Thank you for your help once again! John Dybowski Nasz znak: N II 843-14/07 W odpowiedzi na Pana pismo Archiwum Panstwowe w Krakowie uprzejmie informuje, ze w przechowywanych w tutejszym zasobie aktach stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej w Iwanowicach (1810-1831, 1835-1906), do której przynalezaly Sulkowice, obecnie powiat krakowski, nie odnaleziono aktów urodzenia Panów: - Andrzeja Dybowskiego, ur. 28 listopada 1870 (1869) r. w Sulkowicach; - Antoniego Dybowskiego, ur. 12 maja 1906 r. w Sulkowicach. Informujemy, ze w województwie krakowskim znajduja sie jeszcze dwie inne miejscowosci o nazwie Sulkowice: miasto Sulkowice w powiecie myslenickim oraz wies Sulkowice w gminie Andrychów, w powiecie wadowickim. Akta stanu cywilnego z tych miejscowosci nie sa jednak przechowywane w zadnym z archiwów panstwowych w Polsce. W razie zainteresowania poszukiwaniami w aktach metrykalnych z Sulkowic k. Myslenic oraz Sulkowic k. Andrychowa, proponujemy sie zatem zwrócic odpowiednio do: - Parafii Najswietszego Serca Pana Jezusa w Sulkowicach, ul. Tysiaclecia 1a, 32-440 Sulkowice, tel. 012 273 25 46 (dotyczy Sulkowic. k. Myslenic); - Parafii Milosierdzia Bozego w Sulkowicah-Legu, ul. Koscielna 8, 34-120 Sulkowice-Leg, tel. 033 875 25 24 (dotyczy Sulkowic k. Andrychowa); gdzie moga byc one przechowywane. Z powazaniem Pawel Zabczynski ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret, Who was the Passenger and on what ship and when? Kevin -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~podgursky/ On 6/22/07, margaret walker <mgszk@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Is anyone familiar with findmypast.com ?? I've had someone send me some > info about a person in my family tree sailing from the UK to canada. Gives > the passenger name, ship info, date of dep. but when I go to look up the > same info on the collectionscanada website I can not find a match. Does > anyone know how I could match up the info? > thanks > Margaret >

Can someone out there please give me a hand? I received this letter today in my email from the State Archive in Krakow, however I can't seem to get the translation down in the online translators. I am not asking for a word for word translation, but rather just basically what it is telling me would be suffice. Thank you for your help once again! John Dybowski Nasz znak: N II 843-14/07 W odpowiedzi na Pana pismo Archiwum Panstwowe w Krakowie uprzejmie informuje, ze w przechowywanych w tutejszym zasobie aktach stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej w Iwanowicach (1810-1831, 1835-1906), do której przynalezaly Sulkowice, obecnie powiat krakowski, nie odnaleziono aktów urodzenia Panów: - Andrzeja Dybowskiego, ur. 28 listopada 1870 (1869) r. w Sulkowicach; - Antoniego Dybowskiego, ur. 12 maja 1906 r. w Sulkowicach. Informujemy, ze w województwie krakowskim znajduja sie jeszcze dwie inne miejscowosci o nazwie Sulkowice: miasto Sulkowice w powiecie myslenickim oraz wies Sulkowice w gminie Andrychów, w powiecie wadowickim. Akta stanu cywilnego z tych miejscowosci nie sa jednak przechowywane w zadnym z archiwów panstwowych w Polsce. W razie zainteresowania poszukiwaniami w aktach metrykalnych z Sulkowic k. Myslenic oraz Sulkowic k. Andrychowa, proponujemy sie zatem zwrócic odpowiednio do: - Parafii Najswietszego Serca Pana Jezusa w Sulkowicach, ul. Tysiaclecia 1a, 32-440 Sulkowice, tel. 012 273 25 46 (dotyczy Sulkowic. k. Myslenic); - Parafii Milosierdzia Bozego w Sulkowicah-Legu, ul. Koscielna 8, 34-120 Sulkowice-Leg, tel. 033 875 25 24 (dotyczy Sulkowic k. Andrychowa); gdzie moga byc one przechowywane. Z powazaniem Pawel Zabczynski

Is anyone familiar with findmypast.com ?? I've had someone send me some info about a person in my family tree sailing from the UK to canada. Gives the passenger name, ship info, date of dep. but when I go to look up the same info on the collectionscanada website I can not find a match. Does anyone know how I could match up the info? thanks Margaret _________________________________________________________________ Upgrade to Windows Live Hotmail for free today! www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA151

I am looking for family in Bryzgiel. Does anyone know if this is part of a village name in that phone directory? thanks for any offerings of help, Maryann >From: "vellis@jps.net" <vellis@jps.net> >Reply-To: vellis@jps.net, polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com >To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PBS] Online Poland Telephone Directory >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:02:33 -0400 > >Hi Everyone, > >I do not know why, but the wildcard % no longer works on the online >telephone directory @ http://www.ksiazka-telefoniczna.com/ anymore. Maybe >it became over used, and it caused their system to become jambed. You now >have to know the name of the village where anyone lives in order to find >listings on your family surnames in all of the provinces. > >Tina Ellis > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application >hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for family in Bryzgiel. Does anyone know if this is part of a village name in that phone directory? thanks for any offerings of help, Maryann >From: "vellis@jps.net" <vellis@jps.net> >Reply-To: vellis@jps.net, polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com >To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PBS] Online Poland Telephone Directory >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:02:33 -0400 > >Hi Everyone, > >I do not know why, but the wildcard % no longer works on the online >telephone directory @ http://www.ksiazka-telefoniczna.com/ anymore. Maybe >it became over used, and it caused their system to become jambed. You now >have to know the name of the village where anyone lives in order to find >listings on your family surnames in all of the provinces. > >Tina Ellis > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application >hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, I do not know why, but the wildcard % no longer works on the online telephone directory @ http://www.ksiazka-telefoniczna.com/ anymore. Maybe it became over used, and it caused their system to become jambed. You now have to know the name of the village where anyone lives in order to find listings on your family surnames in all of the provinces. Tina Ellis -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting

Hi John, Just a pssing comment: It seems strange to have Malopolskie called the Lesser Poland. I guess Washington would be hard to translate into Polish words, but in Poland they also call it Washington. :) Smile ... I think Malopolskie sounds better. http://mapa.szukacz.pl/ is a website for finding places on a map in Poland. There are 8 places named Sulkowice. There are a few near Krakow. Do you have any idea in what gmina or powiat this place is located? If you know that you can use this website to get a little history on the place and learn in what the parish was: http://www.dir.icm.edu.pl/dirop/index.php/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_I/1 They are in Polish. If you do not know the language, you can use these two sites to translate the words into English: http://www.poltran.com and http://www.pogonowski.com/Slowniki/pol-ang/pol_ang.php You have to use the Polish alphabet to use all but the first website. The first website will give you the proper Polish spelling for places. You can copy and paste the correct letters of the alphabet, if you have not installed them into your computer. Tina Ellis At 06:03 PM 6/18/2007 -0400, you wrote: > I was wondering if anyone knows of which Church to contact > (presumably catholic) in Sulkowice (formerly in the Krakow > voivodship...now the Lesser Poland voivodship). My family is originally > from there, but I cannot find any "real" information on the internet > about it. From what I can tell it is a very small town. Also, if there is > a known phone directory, that could be useful as well. > On another note....I was infromed by a pretty reliable source that > we had an "Uncle" Dr. Benedykt Dybowski (1833-1930). Now, I know the > basic history of him from what I have gathered on the net, but his family > history is VERY vague. He has a brother Wladislaw b.1838 and his father > was Jan, but I am trying to find a connection somewhere within the 3rd > generation. If anyone knows of a book that might be helpful or anything > that could be useful I would VERY much appreciate it. > > If anyone has any information that might help....I thank you, deeply, > in advance. > >John Dybowski

I was wondering if anyone knows of which Church to contact (presumably catholic) in Sulkowice (formerly in the Krakow voivodship...now the Lesser Poland voivodship). My family is originally from there, but I cannot find any "real" information on the internet about it. From what I can tell it is a very small town. Also, if there is a known phone directory, that could be useful as well. On another note....I was infromed by a pretty reliable source that we had an "Uncle" Dr. Benedykt Dybowski (1833-1930). Now, I know the basic history of him from what I have gathered on the net, but his family history is VERY vague. He has a brother Wladislaw b.1838 and his father was Jan, but I am trying to find a connection somewhere within the 3rd generation. If anyone knows of a book that might be helpful or anything that could be useful I would VERY much appreciate it. If anyone has any information that might help....I thank you, deeply, in advance. John Dybowski

Hi Jane, Thank you for calling Ancestry.com. I'm at work, and would have had to wait until tonight to do it. Please keep us posted on what they have to say. Have you forwarded them the letter from this company? Did they have anything to say about FTDNA? That's where I had my cousins DNA tests made, as have all of the other people with their surname. We are doing a Y chromosone study on them because everyone in the US doing research on this surname had hit a brickwall. We have been grouping the DNA studies to learn who the ones are more closely related, and working the areas where we know everyone has lived for other records. Tina Ellis Original Message: ----------------- From: JANE KRZYZANSKI janekriz@msn.com Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:23:19 -0500 To: vellis@jps.net, polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PBS] Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics FYI, I called Sorenson and found the person couldn't readily answer my questions. She did say they were partnered with ancestry.com, and I said I would call them which I did. Apparently, this merger happened this a.m. I expressed my concern to the supervisor I talked with about having to reply to remove my name from their list. She asked that I forward email to her to see how it was being handled. Told her the announcement should have come from ancestry.com so people would know it was legitimate, and, that subscribers should request their name be added. I don't like this 'no response is a positive response' Onus should not be on ancestry.com customer. ----- Original Message ----- From: vellis@jps.net<mailto:vellis@jps.net> To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com<mailto:polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics I have not heard anything from Ancestry.com on this company. Most genealogy researchers have been using FTDNA. Has anyone heard of this company? Maybe it is just spam. 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Unfortunately, I have looked at the marriage records transcribed from the Apatin church records and the following is what is listed: Simon Podolski (son of Simon P and Katharina Babarski) b. 1787 d. 17 Apr 1841 at 54 years married Elizabeth Kretzinger (daughter of Johann K and Elisabeth Burger) on 17 Feb 1817 Elisabeth was b. 06 Aug 1796 and d. 01 Jul 1866 This is the record that gave me the names Simon Podolski and Katharina Barbarski(y), but no other info. It may be hopeless since I simply don't have any leads that pre-date Apatin. Thanks, Beth Tolfree ----- Original Message ----- From: <vellis@jps.net> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Podolski 3xgr.grandparents Have you attempted to find the marriage record for Simon? Shouldn't that give you his place of birth and possibly his parish in Poland, if that is where he was born? Nazwisko Ogólna liczba Rozmieszczenie Podolski 3886 Wa:251, BP:3, Bs:13, BB:30, By:225, Ch:13, Ci:22, Cz:51, El:65, Gd:288, Go:93, JG:63, Kl:68, Ka:279, Ki:106, Kn:28, Ko:76, Kr:194, Ks:32, Lg:74, Ls:6, Lu:201, Lo:3, £d:100, NS:26, Ol:38, Op:86, Os:1, Pl:65, Pt:32, P³:51, Po:76, Pr:44, Ra:78, Rz:59, Sd:9, Sr:9, Sk:69, S³:112, Su:11, Sz:142, Tb:41, Ta:43, To:95, Wb:80, W³:278, Wr:97, Za:9, ZG:51 Trying to pinpoint an area from where he may have been, does not look possible, since in 1990, there were 3,886 adults with this surname. They were in 48 of the 49 provinces at that time. Tina Ellis Original Message: ----------------- From: Beth Tolfree cbtol43@bak.rr.com Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:33:06 -0700 To: PolandBorderSurnames-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PBS] Podolski 3xgr.grandparents I am trying to trace the origins of my Podolski g.g.g.grandparents, Simon Podolski and Katharina Barbarsky. I have no dates or places re life events for either one. I have rather complete data on their descendants except for the exact dob and birthplace of their son, Simon born about 1787 in ?. Simon married in Apatin, Bacs Bodrog Hungary (now in Serbia). I have all pertinent info from the date of his marriage through subsequent generations. His son b. 1834 in Apatin was also named Simon and his son, b. 1871 in Apatin, was another Simon. This last Simon was my grandfather who came to the U.S. in 1910. He spoke German, Hungarian and Serbo-Croatian. Nothing I have indicates a Polish background except, of course, for the surname. It has been suggested to me that they might have been from Silesia; that he may have been a soldier who was sent to settle in Apatin as apparently some veterans were. I simply don't know where to begin looking and any suggestions for where/how I might begin to look for Simon and Katharina would be most appreciated. Beth Tolfree ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/852 - Release Date: 6/17/2007 8:23 AM

I have not heard anything from Ancestry.com on this company. Most genealogy researchers have been using FTDNA. Has anyone heard of this company? Maybe it is just spam. Tina Ellis Original Message: ----------------- From: Allen James Krueger akrueger@frontiernet.net Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:32:43 -0500 To: POLANDBORDERSURNAMES@rootsweb.com Subject: [PBS] Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics ----- Original Message ----- From: The Relative Genetics Team To: akrueger@frontiernet.net Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics Dear Relative Genetics Valued Customer, Relative Genetics is pleased to announce an exciting new partnership with Ancestry.com, by way of our parent company, Sorenson Genomics. This new partnership will combine Ancestry.com's unrivaled collection of online family trees and historical documents with Sorenson Genomics' precision ancestral DNA testing. The powerful combination of these three major pillars of family history research - historical records, DNA and family trees - will revolutionize family history and add meaningful tools to assist you in your family history research. Ancestry.com currently has more than 14 million users and the world's largest collection of online family trees. In the coming months, Ancestry.com will release technology that captures DNA test results and integrates them with the historical documents already in their online family trees. This integration paired with the ability to collaborate with the Ancestry.com community gives you the ability to add branches to your family tree in one vast, ever-expanding online location. DNA testing and select genetic genealogy services formerly provided by Relative Genetics will soon be offered exclusively through Ancestry.com. At that time, your Relative Genetics information will migrate to Ancestry.com. Before this happens, you will receive an e-mail with more details regarding this transition. We are excited about the unprecedented possibilities this combination of historical records, DNA and family trees will provide for your family history research. For more information about the benefits of this exclusive partnership and to view our FAQs, please visit Relative Genetics News.Should you have any further questions, please e-mail Relative Genetics at info@relativegenetics.com or contact a member of the Relative Genetics customer support team at 1-800-956-9362. If you would like to completely exclude your DNA test results, contact information and surname project data from transferring to Ancestry.com, please contact Relative Genetics prior to July 15, 2007, by clicking on the link below: Relative Genetics Login Oh behalf of Relative Genetics, it has been our sincere pleasure to work with you, and we thank you for your support. Best regards, The Relative Genetics Team To request your Relative Genetics' user name and/or password, e-mail info@relativegenetics.com or contact a member of the Relative Genetics' customer support team at 1-800-956-9362. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web

Have you attempted to find the marriage record for Simon? Shouldn't that give you his place of birth and possibly his parish in Poland, if that is where he was born? Nazwisko Ogólna liczba Rozmieszczenie Podolski 3886 Wa:251, BP:3, Bs:13, BB:30, By:225, Ch:13, Ci:22, Cz:51, El:65, Gd:288, Go:93, JG:63, Kl:68, Ka:279, Ki:106, Kn:28, Ko:76, Kr:194, Ks:32, Lg:74, Ls:6, Lu:201, Lo:3, £d:100, NS:26, Ol:38, Op:86, Os:1, Pl:65, Pt:32, P³:51, Po:76, Pr:44, Ra:78, Rz:59, Sd:9, Sr:9, Sk:69, S³:112, Su:11, Sz:142, Tb:41, Ta:43, To:95, Wb:80, W³:278, Wr:97, Za:9, ZG:51 Trying to pinpoint an area from where he may have been, does not look possible, since in 1990, there were 3,886 adults with this surname. They were in 48 of the 49 provinces at that time. Tina Ellis Original Message: ----------------- From: Beth Tolfree cbtol43@bak.rr.com Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:33:06 -0700 To: PolandBorderSurnames-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PBS] Podolski 3xgr.grandparents I am trying to trace the origins of my Podolski g.g.g.grandparents, Simon Podolski and Katharina Barbarsky. I have no dates or places re life events for either one. I have rather complete data on their descendants except for the exact dob and birthplace of their son, Simon born about 1787 in ?. Simon married in Apatin, Bacs Bodrog Hungary (now in Serbia). I have all pertinent info from the date of his marriage through subsequent generations. His son b. 1834 in Apatin was also named Simon and his son, b. 1871 in Apatin, was another Simon. This last Simon was my grandfather who came to the U.S. in 1910. He spoke German, Hungarian and Serbo-Croatian. Nothing I have indicates a Polish background except, of course, for the surname. It has been suggested to me that they might have been from Silesia; that he may have been a soldier who was sent to settle in Apatin as apparently some veterans were. I simply don't know where to begin looking and any suggestions for where/how I might begin to look for Simon and Katharina would be most appreciated. Beth Tolfree ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail

I received this, too. My DNA research started with the National Geographic Genographic Project. From there I uploaded results to FTDNA and signed appropriate privacy statements. Has this outfit gotten hold of those lists somehow? I plan to call the number they provide and grill them about their sources, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: vellis@jps.net<mailto:vellis@jps.net> To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com<mailto:polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics I have not heard anything from Ancestry.com on this company. Most genealogy researchers have been using FTDNA. Has anyone heard of this company? Maybe it is just spam. Tina Ellis Original Message: ----------------- From: Allen James Krueger akrueger@frontiernet.net<mailto:akrueger@frontiernet.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:32:43 -0500 To: POLANDBORDERSURNAMES@rootsweb.com<mailto:POLANDBORDERSURNAMES@rootsweb.com> Subject: [PBS] Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics ----- Original Message ----- From: The Relative Genetics Team To: akrueger@frontiernet.net<mailto:akrueger@frontiernet.net> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics Dear Relative Genetics Valued Customer, Relative Genetics is pleased to announce an exciting new partnership with Ancestry.com, by way of our parent company, Sorenson Genomics. This new partnership will combine Ancestry.com's unrivaled collection of online family trees and historical documents with Sorenson Genomics' precision ancestral DNA testing. The powerful combination of these three major pillars of family history research - historical records, DNA and family trees - will revolutionize family history and add meaningful tools to assist you in your family history research. Ancestry.com currently has more than 14 million users and the world's largest collection of online family trees. In the coming months, Ancestry.com will release technology that captures DNA test results and integrates them with the historical documents already in their online family trees. This integration paired with the ability to collaborate with the Ancestry.com community gives you the ability to add branches to your family tree in one vast, ever-expanding online location. DNA testing and select genetic genealogy services formerly provided by Relative Genetics will soon be offered exclusively through Ancestry.com. At that time, your Relative Genetics information will migrate to Ancestry.com. Before this happens, you will receive an e-mail with more details regarding this transition. We are excited about the unprecedented possibilities this combination of historical records, DNA and family trees will provide for your family history research. For more information about the benefits of this exclusive partnership and to view our FAQs, please visit Relative Genetics News.Should you have any further questions, please e-mail Relative Genetics at info@relativegenetics.com<mailto:info@relativegenetics.com> or contact a member of the Relative Genetics customer support team at 1-800-956-9362. If you would like to completely exclude your DNA test results, contact information and surname project data from transferring to Ancestry.com, please contact Relative Genetics prior to July 15, 2007, by clicking on the link below: Relative Genetics Login Oh behalf of Relative Genetics, it has been our sincere pleasure to work with you, and we thank you for your support. Best regards, The Relative Genetics Team To request your Relative Genetics' user name and/or password, e-mail info@relativegenetics.com<mailto:info@relativegenetics.com> or contact a member of the Relative Genetics' customer support team at 1-800-956-9362. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web<http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: The Relative Genetics Team To: akrueger@frontiernet.net Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics Dear Relative Genetics Valued Customer, Relative Genetics is pleased to announce an exciting new partnership with Ancestry.com, by way of our parent company, Sorenson Genomics. This new partnership will combine Ancestry.com's unrivaled collection of online family trees and historical documents with Sorenson Genomics' precision ancestral DNA testing. The powerful combination of these three major pillars of family history research - historical records, DNA and family trees - will revolutionize family history and add meaningful tools to assist you in your family history research. Ancestry.com currently has more than 14 million users and the world's largest collection of online family trees. In the coming months, Ancestry.com will release technology that captures DNA test results and integrates them with the historical documents already in their online family trees. This integration paired with the ability to collaborate with the Ancestry.com community gives you the ability to add branches to your family tree in one vast, ever-expanding online location. DNA testing and select genetic genealogy services formerly provided by Relative Genetics will soon be offered exclusively through Ancestry.com. At that time, your Relative Genetics information will migrate to Ancestry.com. Before this happens, you will receive an e-mail with more details regarding this transition. We are excited about the unprecedented possibilities this combination of historical records, DNA and family trees will provide for your family history research. For more information about the benefits of this exclusive partnership and to view our FAQs, please visit Relative Genetics News.Should you have any further questions, please e-mail Relative Genetics at info@relativegenetics.com or contact a member of the Relative Genetics customer support team at 1-800-956-9362. If you would like to completely exclude your DNA test results, contact information and surname project data from transferring to Ancestry.com, please contact Relative Genetics prior to July 15, 2007, by clicking on the link below: Relative Genetics Login Oh behalf of Relative Genetics, it has been our sincere pleasure to work with you, and we thank you for your support. Best regards, The Relative Genetics Team To request your Relative Genetics' user name and/or password, e-mail info@relativegenetics.com or contact a member of the Relative Genetics' customer support team at 1-800-956-9362.

Hello, Do you have a Max Alfred Oscar Leo LIEBICH son of Immanuel Christopher Arkmann LIEBICH from near the border of Germany and Poland, Schelisian..? Thank you Ray M Lyons ----- Original Message ----- From: "louise smith" <brooklyngirl2005@yahoo.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] POLANDBORDERSURNAMES Digest, Vol 2, Issue 305 > > --- polandbordersurnames-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> >> >> When replying to a letter, which is in the digest, >> please delete the other letters out of your message. >> Please, also, change the subject, so the person to >> whom you are replying understands that your reply is >> for him/her. >> > > ZIP CODE NEEDED > > How can I find out the zip code for Zastavne Ukraine? > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > news, photos & more. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 2335 (20070616) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >