Hi Mary, I believe my grandmother worked in a mill or cigar factory. My dad and uncle said their dad worked for a railroad, (he worked in one for sure when the kids were little and in Pa). I have used Heritage Quest through the library, is there something special I do to search to get the information you got? can you cut and paste or send me the page to my e-mail address? I am dying to look at it myself. It sounds so interesting and may be some names on the page that look familiar to names on other papers I have. Thanks, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > Oneida County, NY in the 1910 census: two close-but-not-close > possibilities, though single people who were usually boarders were not > always included, spelling, pronunciation could all confuse the census > enumerators. Utica is 3.96 miles from New York Mills according to > Mapquest. Utica, Oneida County, Ward 2, Apolionia Starash (well, it > starts with an ST-), age 20, cotton mill worker, Aust Polish, immigrated > 1909. Oneida County, Ward 8, Wallenti Tulik (well, it starts with a > T-), age 27, washer in cloth room, Aust Polish, immigrated 1907. If > they both worked in the cotton mills for a time, this would be an > explanation of their marriage in Oneida County. The Lehigh Valley > railroad was a north-south railroad that would go through Syracuse, but > not New York Mills, which is 50 miles east of Syracuse; Lehigh County, > PA is about 200 miles from Oneida County, NY. > > Using Heritage Quest 1910 census, you could search Lehigh County, PA for > males between 21-30, born; females 11-20, born Austria; and the same for > Oneida County, NY; as you can tell by browsing, there was not a separate > census for New York Mills, NY nor for Stiles, PA. I don't find them > anywhere in 1920. Did they stay in New York Mills after their marriage? > > You did a great job finding Walenti and Apolonia; especially because > there was also an Apolonia Toczek who lived in Allentown, PA, and her > cousin Marya Starzak came through Ellis Island on the way to Apolonia in > 1912; there was more than one Walenty Toczek who went to Lehigh County. > Many many Toczeks from Nozdrzec went to Stiles and other cities in > Lehigh County; Maria and Jendrzej Toczek fromNozdrzec went to Allentown > in 1905; why oh why does Walenty's manifest use the town of Narnecz; > maybe it was close to Nozdrzec? You could do a name study on Toczek > from Nozdrzec to Lehigh County! By the way, it is easier to look for > ship manifests on Ellis Island by using the Steve Morse search engine, > using 'sounds like' rather than the Ellis Island site. > http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html > > I can see the dilemma in finding these folks. > > Regards, > Mary > > Tina Ellis wrote: >> Hello Barbara, >> >> The ship manifest shows he was going to the home of his brother Jedrzej >> Toczek, in Stiles, PA. That is in Lehigh County, PA. In English his >> name >> translates to Andrew. In Polish, it would be Andrzej. >> >> There is a man listed as Andy Toczek living in Fayette, PA, on September >> 17, >> 1918 according to his WWI Draft card. This card shows that he was from >> Austria. >> >> There is a draft card for a Walenty Toczek living at 622 N 2nd, >> Allentown. >> PA. This city is in Lehigh County. He was born May 15, 1890. He was >> listed >> as an alien from Austria. He was born in Dynow, Galicia, >> Austria/Hungary. >> It shows he was still single on June 5, 1917, which is when he completed >> the >> card. He was working for American Steel Company in Allentown. Dyno~w is >> in >> southern Poland, which used to be in Galicia, which was part of the >> Austro/Hungarian Empire. >> >> You can use http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp or >> http://www.mapa.szukacz.pl to locate Dyno~w. You may be able to find >> some >> photos of the area by using http://www.google.com and clicking on Images >> at >> the top of the screen. >> >> The ship manifest on Apolonia Starzak shows she was traveling with Zofia >> Lach, who was going to the same house in Northampton, PA. Zofia filed to >> become a citizen. That's what the numbers on her line represent. >> Apolonia's mother is listed as Marya Starzak. Zofia's father is listed >> as >> Jan Lach. They were going to the same address in Northampton. They were >> both from Nozdrzec, also located in southern Poland. >> >> >> On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >>> Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. >>> Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in >>> 1884. >>> >>> The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak came >>> to the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest >>> said >>> she went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were >>> married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. Any help would be greatly >>> appreciated. >>> >>> By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally >>> found him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the >>> manifest >>> sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. >>> >>> Tina wrote: >>>> How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. >>>> >>>> Are you sure they were here before 1910? >>>> >>>> On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give >>>>> me any suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This >>>>> is a missing link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for >>>>> both my grandparents, marriage certificate from 1911, I have the >>>>> 1920 and 1930 but can find no record for 1910. I've tried Heritage >>>>> Quest and Ancestry. Because they were not married then could it be >>>>> that because they were boarders they were never listed? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tina, I didn't think abouot getting a guarantee, but I had only planned to give the documents signed by the priest, not the original, but copies. If that would not have been enough I guess they would be out of luck, it took me two years and tons of searching in every church in Allentown, and Onedia county, NY. If it weren't for almost the last priest in Allentown who suggested several churches in NY I would probably still be looking. Don't have time this AM to search your suggested sight, can't wait until this afternoon. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > Barbara, > > What guarantee do they give you that they will return these same two > documents to you. I wonder if they woudl accept notorized copies of them. > Are the two records you have notorized. Back in those times, the midwives > would not file the records and keep the filing fee they received from the > parents of a newborn child. This may be that type of situation. > > Go to http://www.stevemorse.org. In the spot where you put in a town name > type in Nozdrzec. Click on Search. You will get a list of 53 people from > that village who came to the US. You may have many more family members > from > there in the US. > > There is a Walenty Toczak listed form Nozdrzec at this site. He went to > Allentown in 1912. > > The 1925 Slownik Geograficzny show that Dynow is only 7 kilometers from > Nozdrzec. Was he born in Nozdrzec or did he live there before leaving for > the US? > > Tina > > > On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Tina, >> I did give wrong information, he did go to a br. (I read "in law") in >> Styles, Pa. I have the baptism record from Poland and he definetely was >> born in 1884. Also, he was also from the same town (Nozdrzec) as my >> grandmother, although my dad always said they didn't know one another >> there. >> The town was spelled incorectly on both manifests. I am positive of the >> town and the birth dates of both from the information from the church >> there. >> I do have their 1911 marriage document from the church in NY. >> Dad told me his dad always went by three names, Valentinus (from his >> baptism >> and I was told the Latin name) Walenty his Polish name and William his >> American name. >> In 1918 they were living in Cleveland, Ohio where their fourth child was >> born and I have compared the signatures on his petition and also a >> document >> he signed as a wittness to a tragic accident. (sent to me by perhaps a >> very >> distant cousin but we don't know how, a lot of the travel companions seem >> to >> be in weddings and god parents, but we can't make positive connections.) >> so >> I doubt the registration is his. >> It's funny, I have the baptism papers of my dad and his older sister >> saying >> they were born in Rome, NY and when I tried to get their birth >> certificates, >> there is no record, anywhere. They want me to send them the documents so >> they can add them, have you ever heard of anything like this? >> Barbara >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> >> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census >> >> >> > Hello Barbara, >> > >> > The ship manifest shows he was going to the home of his brother Jedrzej >> > Toczek, in Stiles, PA. That is in Lehigh County, PA. In English his >> name >> > translates to Andrew. In Polish, it would be Andrzej. >> > >> > There is a man listed as Andy Toczek living in Fayette, PA, on >> > September >> > 17, >> > 1918 according to his WWI Draft card. This card shows that he was from >> > Austria. >> > >> > There is a draft card for a Walenty Toczek living at 622 N 2nd, >> Allentown. >> > PA. This city is in Lehigh County. He was born May 15, 1890. He was >> > listed >> > as an alien from Austria. He was born in Dynow, Galicia, >> Austria/Hungary. >> > It shows he was still single on June 5, 1917, which is when he >> > completed >> > the >> > card. He was working for American Steel Company in Allentown. Dyno~w >> is >> > in >> > southern Poland, which used to be in Galicia, which was part of the >> > Austro/Hungarian Empire. >> > >> > You can use http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp or >> > http://www.mapa.szukacz.pl to locate Dyno~w. You may be able to find >> some >> > photos of the area by using http://www.google.com and clicking on >> > Images >> > at >> > the top of the screen. >> > >> > The ship manifest on Apolonia Starzak shows she was traveling with >> > Zofia >> > Lach, who was going to the same house in Northampton, PA. Zofia filed >> to >> > become a citizen. That's what the numbers on her line represent. >> > Apolonia's mother is listed as Marya Starzak. Zofia's father is listed >> as >> > Jan Lach. They were going to the same address in Northampton. They >> were >> > both from Nozdrzec, also located in southern Poland. >> > >> > Tina Ellis >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. >> >> Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in >> >> 1884. >> >> >> >> The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak >> came >> >> to >> >> the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest >> >> said >> >> she >> >> went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were >> >> married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Barbara >> >> By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally >> >> found >> >> him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the manifest >> >> sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> >> >> To: < polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census >> >> >> >> >> >> > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. >> >> > >> >> > Are you sure they were here before 1910? >> >> > >> >> > Tina Ellis >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give >> me >> >> any >> >> >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a >> >> >> missing >> >> >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my >> >> grandparents, >> >> >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can >> find >> >> no >> >> >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because >> >> >> they >> >> >> were >> >> >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they >> were >> >> >> never >> >> >> listed? >> >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oneida County, NY in the 1910 census: two close-but-not-close possibilities, though single people who were usually boarders were not always included, spelling, pronunciation could all confuse the census enumerators. Utica is 3.96 miles from New York Mills according to Mapquest. Utica, Oneida County, Ward 2, Apolionia Starash (well, it starts with an ST-), age 20, cotton mill worker, Aust Polish, immigrated 1909. Oneida County, Ward 8, Wallenti Tulik (well, it starts with a T-), age 27, washer in cloth room, Aust Polish, immigrated 1907. If they both worked in the cotton mills for a time, this would be an explanation of their marriage in Oneida County. The Lehigh Valley railroad was a north-south railroad that would go through Syracuse, but not New York Mills, which is 50 miles east of Syracuse; Lehigh County, PA is about 200 miles from Oneida County, NY. Using Heritage Quest 1910 census, you could search Lehigh County, PA for males between 21-30, born; females 11-20, born Austria; and the same for Oneida County, NY; as you can tell by browsing, there was not a separate census for New York Mills, NY nor for Stiles, PA. I don't find them anywhere in 1920. Did they stay in New York Mills after their marriage? You did a great job finding Walenti and Apolonia; especially because there was also an Apolonia Toczek who lived in Allentown, PA, and her cousin Marya Starzak came through Ellis Island on the way to Apolonia in 1912; there was more than one Walenty Toczek who went to Lehigh County. Many many Toczeks from Nozdrzec went to Stiles and other cities in Lehigh County; Maria and Jendrzej Toczek fromNozdrzec went to Allentown in 1905; why oh why does Walenty's manifest use the town of Narnecz; maybe it was close to Nozdrzec? You could do a name study on Toczek from Nozdrzec to Lehigh County! By the way, it is easier to look for ship manifests on Ellis Island by using the Steve Morse search engine, using 'sounds like' rather than the Ellis Island site. http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html I can see the dilemma in finding these folks. Regards, Mary Tina Ellis wrote: > Hello Barbara, > > The ship manifest shows he was going to the home of his brother Jedrzej > Toczek, in Stiles, PA. That is in Lehigh County, PA. In English his name > translates to Andrew. In Polish, it would be Andrzej. > > There is a man listed as Andy Toczek living in Fayette, PA, on September 17, > 1918 according to his WWI Draft card. This card shows that he was from > Austria. > > There is a draft card for a Walenty Toczek living at 622 N 2nd, Allentown. > PA. This city is in Lehigh County. He was born May 15, 1890. He was listed > as an alien from Austria. He was born in Dynow, Galicia, Austria/Hungary. > It shows he was still single on June 5, 1917, which is when he completed the > card. He was working for American Steel Company in Allentown. Dyno~w is in > southern Poland, which used to be in Galicia, which was part of the > Austro/Hungarian Empire. > > You can use http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp or > http://www.mapa.szukacz.pl to locate Dyno~w. You may be able to find some > photos of the area by using http://www.google.com and clicking on Images at > the top of the screen. > > The ship manifest on Apolonia Starzak shows she was traveling with Zofia > Lach, who was going to the same house in Northampton, PA. Zofia filed to > become a citizen. That's what the numbers on her line represent. > Apolonia's mother is listed as Marya Starzak. Zofia's father is listed as > Jan Lach. They were going to the same address in Northampton. They were > both from Nozdrzec, also located in southern Poland. > > > On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. >> Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in >> 1884. >> >> The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak came >> to the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest >> said >> she went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were >> married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. Any help would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally >> found him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the >> manifest >> sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. >> >> Tina wrote: >>> How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. >>> >>> Are you sure they were here before 1910? >>> >>> On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give >>>> me any suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This >>>> is a missing link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for >>>> both my grandparents, marriage certificate from 1911, I have the >>>> 1920 and 1930 but can find no record for 1910. I've tried Heritage >>>> Quest and Ancestry. Because they were not married then could it be >>>> that because they were boarders they were never listed?

Barbara, What guarantee do they give you that they will return these same two documents to you. I wonder if they woudl accept notorized copies of them. Are the two records you have notorized. Back in those times, the midwives would not file the records and keep the filing fee they received from the parents of a newborn child. This may be that type of situation. Go to http://www.stevemorse.org. In the spot where you put in a town name type in Nozdrzec. Click on Search. You will get a list of 53 people from that village who came to the US. You may have many more family members from there in the US. There is a Walenty Toczak listed form Nozdrzec at this site. He went to Allentown in 1912. The 1925 Slownik Geograficzny show that Dynow is only 7 kilometers from Nozdrzec. Was he born in Nozdrzec or did he live there before leaving for the US? Tina On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > Hi Tina, > I did give wrong information, he did go to a br. (I read "in law") in > Styles, Pa. I have the baptism record from Poland and he definetely was > born in 1884. Also, he was also from the same town (Nozdrzec) as my > grandmother, although my dad always said they didn't know one another > there. > The town was spelled incorectly on both manifests. I am positive of the > town and the birth dates of both from the information from the church > there. > I do have their 1911 marriage document from the church in NY. > Dad told me his dad always went by three names, Valentinus (from his > baptism > and I was told the Latin name) Walenty his Polish name and William his > American name. > In 1918 they were living in Cleveland, Ohio where their fourth child was > born and I have compared the signatures on his petition and also a > document > he signed as a wittness to a tragic accident. (sent to me by perhaps a > very > distant cousin but we don't know how, a lot of the travel companions seem > to > be in weddings and god parents, but we can't make positive connections.) > so > I doubt the registration is his. > It's funny, I have the baptism papers of my dad and his older sister > saying > they were born in Rome, NY and when I tried to get their birth > certificates, > there is no record, anywhere. They want me to send them the documents so > they can add them, have you ever heard of anything like this? > Barbara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > > > > Hello Barbara, > > > > The ship manifest shows he was going to the home of his brother Jedrzej > > Toczek, in Stiles, PA. That is in Lehigh County, PA. In English his > name > > translates to Andrew. In Polish, it would be Andrzej. > > > > There is a man listed as Andy Toczek living in Fayette, PA, on September > > 17, > > 1918 according to his WWI Draft card. This card shows that he was from > > Austria. > > > > There is a draft card for a Walenty Toczek living at 622 N 2nd, > Allentown. > > PA. This city is in Lehigh County. He was born May 15, 1890. He was > > listed > > as an alien from Austria. He was born in Dynow, Galicia, > Austria/Hungary. > > It shows he was still single on June 5, 1917, which is when he completed > > the > > card. He was working for American Steel Company in Allentown. Dyno~w > is > > in > > southern Poland, which used to be in Galicia, which was part of the > > Austro/Hungarian Empire. > > > > You can use http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp or > > http://www.mapa.szukacz.pl to locate Dyno~w. You may be able to find > some > > photos of the area by using http://www.google.com and clicking on Images > > at > > the top of the screen. > > > > The ship manifest on Apolonia Starzak shows she was traveling with Zofia > > Lach, who was going to the same house in Northampton, PA. Zofia filed > to > > become a citizen. That's what the numbers on her line represent. > > Apolonia's mother is listed as Marya Starzak. Zofia's father is listed > as > > Jan Lach. They were going to the same address in Northampton. They > were > > both from Nozdrzec, also located in southern Poland. > > > > Tina Ellis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > >> > >> Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. > >> Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in > >> 1884. > >> > >> The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak > came > >> to > >> the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest said > >> she > >> went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were > >> married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. > >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >> Barbara > >> By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally > >> found > >> him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the manifest > >> sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> > >> To: < polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM > >> Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > >> > >> > >> > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. > >> > > >> > Are you sure they were here before 1910? > >> > > >> > Tina Ellis > >> > > >> > > >> > On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give > me > >> any > >> >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a > >> >> missing > >> >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my > >> grandparents, > >> >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can > find > >> no > >> >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because > >> >> they > >> >> were > >> >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they > were > >> >> never > >> >> listed? > >> >> Thanks for your help. > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Usually the library in the city or county seat have old city diretories. On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > Hi Darlene, > I can't believe how helpful the people on this board are. > The marriage record just gave their names, their parents names and and the > wittnesses. How do I find the city directories? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen & Darlene Dowhaniuk" <addowhaniuk@shaw.ca> > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:02 AM > Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > > > > Hi Barbara, > > > > Did the 1911 marriage record give a street address? Perhaps you can > check > > the census manually if you have an address. Also, you can try checking > > city > > directories. > > > > Regards > > Darlene > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Darlene, I can't believe how helpful the people on this board are. The marriage record just gave their names, their parents names and and the wittnesses. How do I find the city directories? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen & Darlene Dowhaniuk" <addowhaniuk@shaw.ca> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > Hi Barbara, > > Did the 1911 marriage record give a street address? Perhaps you can check > the census manually if you have an address. Also, you can try checking > city > directories. > > Regards > Darlene >

Manifests, Census and church records do not guarantee correct spelling. We Americans tend to expect everybody understands the need for correct spelling. Manifests were written at the port of departure. If the purser (?) could not speak the same language as the passenger he would have guessed what it sounded like. If the passenger was illiterate or had documents hard to read that was another source of confused spelling. And if you are working from an index transliterated in the US the error rate is high. Leo In a message dated 9/13/2007 3:43:37 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, toomanycrafts@verizon.net writes: Yes Terissa, I do have the manifest for Ellis Island. Her name is spelled correctly. As far as I know they never lived in Wisconsin. I am so sorry for the misinformation, I think he went to Stiles, and she went to Northampton, Pa.----- Original Message ----- From: "Terissa Schor" <terissa.schor@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > My mistake you said you have the manifests. Is her name spelled the same? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

You should make sure to check the handwritten (the actual scans) version of these documents with names that are similar. The 1920 census was elusive for me for a long time until i found that the transcriber had messed up and changed "Yakimicki" to "Yamich" or something along those lines. It would not show up on any searches because the name was spelled so incorrectly that soundex wouldn't even pick it up. I found it by manually looking through the pages that were around the address that they lived in prior and after. -Joe Yakimicki On Sep 13, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Terissa Schor wrote: > My mistake you said you have the manifests. Is her name spelled the > same? > > On 9/13/07, Terissa Schor <terissa.schor@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Do you have the immigration manifests? >> >> Interestingly, there doesn't seem to be a Stiles, Pa, but there IS a >> Stiles, Wisconsin. >> >> >> On 9/13/07, Terissa Schor <terissa.schor@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> There is a Walentine "Tomczak" who has the correct age and >>> arrival year >>> living in Milwaukee at that time. I know it's a stretch, but >>> perhaps it's >>> possible? >>> >>> Year: *1910*; Census Place: *Milwaukee Ward 14, Milwaukee, >>> Wisconsin *; >>> Roll: *T624_1726*; Page: *7A*; Enumeration District: *146*; >>> Image: *990* >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/13/07, Barbara < toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. >>>> Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in >>>> Poland in >>>> 1884. >>>> The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak >>>> came to >>>> the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest >>>> said she >>>> went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they >>>> were >>>> married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. >>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>>> Barbara >>>> By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I >>>> finally >>>> found >>>> him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the >>>> manifest >>>> sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Tina Ellis" < polska.research@gmail.com> >>>> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census >>>> >>>> >>>>> How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. >>>>> >>>>> Are you sure they were here before 1910? >>>>> >>>>> Tina Ellis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/9/07, Barbara < toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can >>>>>> give >>>> me any >>>>>> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This >>>>>> is a >>>>>> missing >>>>>> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my >>>> grandparents, >>>>>> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can >>>> find no >>>>>> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. >>>>>> Because >>>> they >>>>>> were >>>>>> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they >>>> were >>>>>> never >>>>>> listed? >>>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Terissa Schor >>> terissa.schor@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Terissa Schor >> terissa.schor@gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Terissa Schor > terissa.schor@gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Hi Tina, I did give wrong information, he did go to a br. (I read "in law") in Styles, Pa. I have the baptism record from Poland and he definetely was born in 1884. Also, he was also from the same town (Nozdrzec) as my grandmother, although my dad always said they didn't know one another there. The town was spelled incorectly on both manifests. I am positive of the town and the birth dates of both from the information from the church there. I do have their 1911 marriage document from the church in NY. Dad told me his dad always went by three names, Valentinus (from his baptism and I was told the Latin name) Walenty his Polish name and William his American name. In 1918 they were living in Cleveland, Ohio where their fourth child was born and I have compared the signatures on his petition and also a document he signed as a wittness to a tragic accident. (sent to me by perhaps a very distant cousin but we don't know how, a lot of the travel companions seem to be in weddings and god parents, but we can't make positive connections.) so I doubt the registration is his. It's funny, I have the baptism papers of my dad and his older sister saying they were born in Rome, NY and when I tried to get their birth certificates, there is no record, anywhere. They want me to send them the documents so they can add them, have you ever heard of anything like this? Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > Hello Barbara, > > The ship manifest shows he was going to the home of his brother Jedrzej > Toczek, in Stiles, PA. That is in Lehigh County, PA. In English his name > translates to Andrew. In Polish, it would be Andrzej. > > There is a man listed as Andy Toczek living in Fayette, PA, on September > 17, > 1918 according to his WWI Draft card. This card shows that he was from > Austria. > > There is a draft card for a Walenty Toczek living at 622 N 2nd, Allentown. > PA. This city is in Lehigh County. He was born May 15, 1890. He was > listed > as an alien from Austria. He was born in Dynow, Galicia, Austria/Hungary. > It shows he was still single on June 5, 1917, which is when he completed > the > card. He was working for American Steel Company in Allentown. Dyno~w is > in > southern Poland, which used to be in Galicia, which was part of the > Austro/Hungarian Empire. > > You can use http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp or > http://www.mapa.szukacz.pl to locate Dyno~w. You may be able to find some > photos of the area by using http://www.google.com and clicking on Images > at > the top of the screen. > > The ship manifest on Apolonia Starzak shows she was traveling with Zofia > Lach, who was going to the same house in Northampton, PA. Zofia filed to > become a citizen. That's what the numbers on her line represent. > Apolonia's mother is listed as Marya Starzak. Zofia's father is listed as > Jan Lach. They were going to the same address in Northampton. They were > both from Nozdrzec, also located in southern Poland. > > Tina Ellis > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. >> Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in >> 1884. >> >> The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak came >> to >> the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest said >> she >> went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were >> married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> Barbara >> By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally >> found >> him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the manifest >> sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> >> To: < polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census >> >> >> > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. >> > >> > Are you sure they were here before 1910? >> > >> > Tina Ellis >> > >> > >> > On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give me >> any >> >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a >> >> missing >> >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my >> grandparents, >> >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can find >> no >> >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because >> >> they >> >> were >> >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they were >> >> never >> >> listed? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes Terissa, I do have the manifest for Ellis Island. Her name is spelled correctly. As far as I know they never lived in Wisconsin. I am so sorry for the misinformation, I think he went to Stiles, and she went to Northampton, Pa.----- Original Message ----- From: "Terissa Schor" <terissa.schor@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > My mistake you said you have the manifests. Is her name spelled the same?

Hello Barbara, The ship manifest shows he was going to the home of his brother Jedrzej Toczek, in Stiles, PA. That is in Lehigh County, PA. In English his name translates to Andrew. In Polish, it would be Andrzej. There is a man listed as Andy Toczek living in Fayette, PA, on September 17, 1918 according to his WWI Draft card. This card shows that he was from Austria. There is a draft card for a Walenty Toczek living at 622 N 2nd, Allentown. PA. This city is in Lehigh County. He was born May 15, 1890. He was listed as an alien from Austria. He was born in Dynow, Galicia, Austria/Hungary. It shows he was still single on June 5, 1917, which is when he completed the card. He was working for American Steel Company in Allentown. Dyno~w is in southern Poland, which used to be in Galicia, which was part of the Austro/Hungarian Empire. You can use http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp or http://www.mapa.szukacz.pl to locate Dyno~w. You may be able to find some photos of the area by using http://www.google.com and clicking on Images at the top of the screen. The ship manifest on Apolonia Starzak shows she was traveling with Zofia Lach, who was going to the same house in Northampton, PA. Zofia filed to become a citizen. That's what the numbers on her line represent. Apolonia's mother is listed as Marya Starzak. Zofia's father is listed as Jan Lach. They were going to the same address in Northampton. They were both from Nozdrzec, also located in southern Poland. Tina Ellis On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. > Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in 1884. > > The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak came > to > the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest said > she > went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were > married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Barbara > By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally > found > him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the manifest > sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> > To: < polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM > Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > > > > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. > > > > Are you sure they were here before 1910? > > > > Tina Ellis > > > > > > On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > >> > >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give me > any > >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a > >> missing > >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my > grandparents, > >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can find > no > >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because they > >> were > >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they were > >> never > >> listed? > >> Thanks for your help. >

My mistake you said you have the manifests. Is her name spelled the same? On 9/13/07, Terissa Schor <terissa.schor@gmail.com> wrote: > > Do you have the immigration manifests? > > Interestingly, there doesn't seem to be a Stiles, Pa, but there IS a > Stiles, Wisconsin. > > > On 9/13/07, Terissa Schor <terissa.schor@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > There is a Walentine "Tomczak" who has the correct age and arrival year > > living in Milwaukee at that time. I know it's a stretch, but perhaps it's > > possible? > > > > Year: *1910*; Census Place: *Milwaukee Ward 14, Milwaukee, Wisconsin *; > > Roll: *T624_1726*; Page: *7A*; Enumeration District: *146*; Image: *990* > > . > > > > > > > > On 9/13/07, Barbara < toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. > > > Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in > > > 1884. > > > The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak > > > came to > > > the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest > > > said she > > > went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were > > > married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > Barbara > > > By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally > > > found > > > him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the manifest > > > sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tina Ellis" < polska.research@gmail.com> > > > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM > > > Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > > > > > > > > > > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. > > > > > > > > Are you sure they were here before 1910? > > > > > > > > Tina Ellis > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/07, Barbara < toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give > > > me any > > > >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a > > > >> missing > > > >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my > > > grandparents, > > > >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can > > > find no > > > >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because > > > they > > > >> were > > > >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they > > > were > > > >> never > > > >> listed? > > > >> Thanks for your help. > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' > > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Terissa Schor > > terissa.schor@gmail.com > > > > > -- > Terissa Schor > terissa.schor@gmail.com > -- Terissa Schor terissa.schor@gmail.com

Do you have the immigration manifests? Interestingly, there doesn't seem to be a Stiles, Pa, but there IS a Stiles, Wisconsin. On 9/13/07, Terissa Schor <terissa.schor@gmail.com> wrote: > > There is a Walentine "Tomczak" who has the correct age and arrival year > living in Milwaukee at that time. I know it's a stretch, but perhaps it's > possible? > > Year: *1910*; Census Place: *Milwaukee Ward 14, Milwaukee, Wisconsin *; > Roll: *T624_1726*; Page: *7A*; Enumeration District: *146*; Image: *990*. > > > > On 9/13/07, Barbara < toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. > > Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in > > 1884. > > The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak came > > to > > the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest said > > she > > went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were > > married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Barbara > > By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally > > found > > him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the manifest > > sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tina Ellis" < polska.research@gmail.com> > > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM > > Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > > > > > > > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. > > > > > > Are you sure they were here before 1910? > > > > > > Tina Ellis > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/07, Barbara < toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > >> > > >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give me > > any > > >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a > > >> missing > > >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my > > grandparents, > > >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can find > > no > > >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because > > they > > >> were > > >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they > > were > > >> never > > >> listed? > > >> Thanks for your help. > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Terissa Schor > terissa.schor@gmail.com -- Terissa Schor terissa.schor@gmail.com

There is a Walentine "Tomczak" who has the correct age and arrival year living in Milwaukee at that time. I know it's a stretch, but perhaps it's possible? Year: *1910*; Census Place: *Milwaukee Ward 14, Milwaukee, Wisconsin*; Roll: *T624_1726*; Page: *7A*; Enumeration District: *146*; Image: *990*. On 9/13/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. > Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in 1884. > The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak came > to > the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest said > she > went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were > married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Barbara > By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally > found > him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the manifest > sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM > Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > > > > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. > > > > Are you sure they were here before 1910? > > > > Tina Ellis > > > > > > On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > >> > >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give me > any > >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a > >> missing > >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my > grandparents, > >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can find > no > >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because they > >> were > >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they were > >> never > >> listed? > >> Thanks for your help. > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Terissa Schor terissa.schor@gmail.com

Thank you so much for showing an interest to my problem. Yes, Walenty Toczek came to the US in 1905, he was born in Poland in 1884. The ship manifest said he went to Allelntown, Pa. Apolonia Starzak came to the US in 1909, she also born in Poland in 1893, her ship manifest said she went to Stiles, Pa. The next record I find on them is that they were married in New York Mills, NY. in 1911. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Barbara By the way, through Ellis Island after searching for a month I finally found him as Walenti Taczek, however when I actually brought up the manifest sheet, it was spelled the way he wrote it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. > > Are you sure they were here before 1910? > > Tina Ellis > > > On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give me any >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a >> missing >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my grandparents, >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can find no >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because they >> were >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they were >> never >> listed? >> Thanks for your help. >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I too have found Najmolowski in the 20 & 30 census, but have never found either Naj or Padniewitz in the 1910 census. I know they were here. They were married in Chicago in June of 1910. I think perhaps that some records may have been lost or damaged. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] 1910 Census > How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. > > Are you sure they were here before 1910? > > Tina Ellis > > > On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give me any >> suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a >> missing >> link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my grandparents, >> marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can find no >> record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because they >> were >> not married then could it be that because they were boarders they were >> never >> listed? >> Thanks for your help. >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

His first name is misspelled. It should be Bartlomiej. That is Bartholomew in Polish. I just looked at the 1930 census, and it says that he arrived in the US in 1912. He will not be in the 1910 census. The 1930 census also shows that he had filed his Declaration of Intention to become a citizen ... That paperwork the first step. Try finding that document. It should say where he was born. Tina Ellis On 9/10/07, Marilyn Kowalski <ma_kowalski@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Hello to all > I'm stumped on this fellow Bartoney Marcewicz. He came over from Poland > (possibly the Warszawski Co area) about 1910, married to a younger woman, > Antionette Kendzierski. They left a son in Poland, and had several more in > Michigan, Detroit area. Both died in 1927-28 in Michigan > Any suggestions?? Thanks > marilynk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

How about giving us some information? Maybe we can help you. Are you sure they were here before 1910? Tina Ellis On 9/9/07, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > I've seen so many people get help here I wonder if anyone can give me any > suggestions for locating two people on the 1910 census. This is a missing > link for me. I have baptism papers from Poland for both my grandparents, > marriage certificate from 1911, I have the 1920 and 1930 but can find no > record for 1910. I've tried Heritage Quest and Ancestry. Because they > were > not married then could it be that because they were boarders they were > never > listed? > Thanks for your help. >

You may want to explore the possibility that your great grandparents came to the United States by entering through a port of entry in Canada. Some others on the list may be able to provide more information on which Canadian ports of entry were active at the time that they emigrated and located close to the area that your ancestors emigrated to. Another possibility is that your relative's original destination was different from where they eventually settled. My relatives went to Cleveland, Ohio and then immigrated to Canada. Other relatives went to one location in Canada (that I had never heard of) and then settled in a different location in Canada. Good luck ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marilyn-------------possibly try the Ancetry.com Family tree link below----------charles http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&_8000C002=&_8000C003=Marcewicz&_80004002=&_80004003=Marcewicz&_80008002=&_80008003=&gsby=&gsb1co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb1pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd1co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd1pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3B_80000002%3B_80000003&srchb=t&prox=1&db=&;ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=ansmp&so=3 Marilyn Kowalski <ma_kowalski@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hello to all I'm stumped on this fellow Bartoney Marcewicz. He came over from Poland (possibly the Warszawski Co area) about 1910, married to a younger woman, Antionette Kendzierski. They left a son in Poland, and had several more in Michigan, Detroit area. Both died in 1927-28 in Michigan Any suggestions?? Thanks marilynk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message