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    1. Re: [PBS] Surname- KRAKOWIAK
    2. Mary Snow
    3. Looks like the Pennsylvania Krakowiaks lived in Russian occupied Poland when they immigrated. You can also search for 'sounds-like' Krakowiak; there are a few Krakoviaks from the same town. Ellis Island search engine: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html In 1913, Jan Krakowiak immigrated to Gastonville, PA, to his brother-in-law Tomasz Zebrowska, leaving his wife Julianna in 'Biedrzychow', Radom. Nationality Russia; race or people Polish; last permanent residence Russia.. This page and next page. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=100666050045 In 1910, Stanislaw Krakowiak immigrated to his uncle, Wojciech Malinowski in Pittsburgh, leaving his wife Helena in Bodrzechow, Radom. Nationality Russia; race or people Polish; last permanent residence Russia.. This page and next page. Eventually, Helena immigrated to the US, in the 1920 census in Pittsburgh is indicated she immigrated in 1912. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=101353010529 In 1907, Ludwik Krakowiak, Brs?rzachow, immigrated to his brother Jan Krakowiak in Pittsburgh. Nationality Russia; race or people Polish; last permanent residence Russia. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=101953160178 In 1910, Ludwik Krakowiak, immigrated to his brother Jan Krakowiak in Pittsburgh, leaving his wife, Katsrz in Biedrzychow, Radom.. Nationality Russia; race or people Polish; last permanent residence Russia..This page and next page. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=101460050271 Aniela Krakoviak going to her father Jan in Pittsburgh, 1910; mother Juliana in Biedryielow; this page and next http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=101429060307 Regards, Mary Jim Presenkowski wrote: > We all need to keep in mind that Poland did not exist for 150 years. > At that time it was occupied by Russia, Prussia and Austria. That is > why you see relatives traveling from those particular partitions. And > spelling of names may be a little off from those areas. > > Jim > > > On Sep 19, 2007, at 3:14 AM, Pamela Jansen wrote: > >> That is certainly a possibility. It makes sense to me anyway. Thanks >> >> Joe yakimicki <yakimicki@insightbb.com> wrote: I'm going to go out >> on a limb here, but doesn't Krakowiak mean >> something like "from Krakow" the major city in Poland (aka Cracow)? >> Obviously they could have moved around a bit. I would imagine these >> types of names were given to people AFTER they moved from the town >> they are named after. Would make a lot of sense to add "from Krakow" >> to the end of everyone's name living in the city. It would make >> sense though if, say, Jan and Rosalia moved to a little village, >> we'll call it Nova Siolo. In Nova Siolo the locals could all call >> the newcomers Jan and Rosalia Krakowiak rather than 'the new >> people". My last name is the same type of name, named after a >> village in Ukraine. >> >> This link will show you how frequently the borders have changed in >> that region of the world (and where the borders were). >> http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/polhistory.htm >> Just because the borders change, doesn't mean people will call >> themselves a different ethnicity. I have friends who have ancestors >> from Kiev (ukraine) that call themselves Polish, while others from >> the same city claim they are Russian. >> >> Joe Yakimicki >> >> On Sep 18, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Pamela Jansen wrote: >> >>> I am not sure, I really don't know much at all really. I think they >>> were from near Radom or Izla or Ilza if that makes any sense. >>> Everything I have ever found says Poland/ Russia which does not >>> make sense to me. The family says they are Polish. But one memeber >>> was inducted into Russian Army and never heard from again. Maybe >>> they are from near Russia ? >>> Thanks, Pam >>> >>> Terissa Schor wrote: >>> Pamela- >>> >>> Are you certain of the spelling of Biedzychow? I'm having >>> difficulty finding >>> it. There is a Biedrzychow near Ostrowiec Swie~tokrzyski. Is that the >>> village you're talking about? >>> >>> -Terissa >>> >>> On 9/17/07, Pamela Jansen >>> wrote: >>>> Jan KRAKOWIAK *married* Uliana RZEPKA / somewhere in Poland, maybe >>>> Ilza >>>> or Biedzychow, or Radom. >>>> Children: >>>> Antoinette KRAKOWIAK B: 2-16-1887 Biedzychow, Radom, Poland >>>> D: 9-22-1942 Pittsburgh, >>>> Pennsylvania, U.S.A. >>>> Bolek KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Inducted into Russian Army and >>>> never seen or heard from again. >>>> Geofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >>>> Teofil (aka) Theofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >>>> Feliks (aka) Felix KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >>>> Amelia KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: Mr. Zebroski in Pittsburgh, >>>> Pennsylvania? D: ? >>>> Zdieslaw KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >>>> Stanislava aka (Stella) B: ? M: 1st time in U.S.A. 2nd time in France 1 >>>> son each marriage. D: ? >>>> >>>> Can anyone help me find the missing links here ? Thank You, Pamela >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Terissa Schor >>> terissa.schor@gmail.com >>> Kuba Przedzienkowski > jimpres1@mac.com > kuba@przedzienkowski.com > www.przedzienkowski.com > > > >

    09/19/2007 04:05:54
    1. Re: [PBS] Surname- KRAKOWIAK
    2. Jim Presenkowski
    3. We all need to keep in mind that Poland did not exist for 150 years. At that time it was occupied by Russia, Prussia and Austria. That is why you see relatives traveling from those particular partitions. And spelling of names may be a little off from those areas. Jim On Sep 19, 2007, at 3:14 AM, Pamela Jansen wrote: > That is certainly a possibility. It makes sense to me anyway. Thanks > > Joe yakimicki <yakimicki@insightbb.com> wrote: I'm going to go out > on a limb here, but doesn't Krakowiak mean > something like "from Krakow" the major city in Poland (aka Cracow)? > Obviously they could have moved around a bit. I would imagine these > types of names were given to people AFTER they moved from the town > they are named after. Would make a lot of sense to add "from Krakow" > to the end of everyone's name living in the city. It would make > sense though if, say, Jan and Rosalia moved to a little village, > we'll call it Nova Siolo. In Nova Siolo the locals could all call > the newcomers Jan and Rosalia Krakowiak rather than 'the new > people". My last name is the same type of name, named after a > village in Ukraine. > > This link will show you how frequently the borders have changed in > that region of the world (and where the borders were). > http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/polhistory.htm > Just because the borders change, doesn't mean people will call > themselves a different ethnicity. I have friends who have ancestors > from Kiev (ukraine) that call themselves Polish, while others from > the same city claim they are Russian. > > Joe Yakimicki > > On Sep 18, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Pamela Jansen wrote: > >> I am not sure, I really don't know much at all really. I think they >> were from near Radom or Izla or Ilza if that makes any sense. >> Everything I have ever found says Poland/ Russia which does not >> make sense to me. The family says they are Polish. But one memeber >> was inducted into Russian Army and never heard from again. Maybe >> they are from near Russia ? >> Thanks, Pam >> >> Terissa Schor wrote: >> Pamela- >> >> Are you certain of the spelling of Biedzychow? I'm having >> difficulty finding >> it. There is a Biedrzychow near Ostrowiec Swie~tokrzyski. Is that the >> village you're talking about? >> >> -Terissa >> >> On 9/17/07, Pamela Jansen >> wrote: >>> >>> Jan KRAKOWIAK *married* Uliana RZEPKA / somewhere in Poland, maybe >>> Ilza >>> >>> or Biedzychow, or Radom. >>> >>> >>> >>> Children: >>> >>> Antoinette KRAKOWIAK B: 2-16-1887 Biedzychow, Radom, Poland >>> D: 9-22-1942 Pittsburgh, >>> Pennsylvania, U.S.A. >>> >>> Bolek KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Inducted into Russian Army and >>> never >>> seen or >>> heard from again. >>> >>> Geofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >>> >>> Teofil (aka) Theofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >>> >>> Feliks (aka) Felix KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >>> >>> Amelia KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: Mr. Zebroski in Pittsburgh, >>> Pennsylvania? D: >>> ? >>> >>> Zdieslaw KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >>> >>> Stanislava aka (Stella) B: ? M: 1st time in U.S.A. 2nd time in >>> France 1 >>> son each marriage. >>> D: ? >>> >>> Can anyone help me find the missing links here ? Thank You, Pamela >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with >>> Yahoo! >>> FareChase. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Terissa Schor >> terissa.schor@gmail.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel >> today! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > web links. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message Kuba Przedzienkowski jimpres1@mac.com kuba@przedzienkowski.com www.przedzienkowski.com

    09/19/2007 01:25:49
    1. Re: [PBS] Napierala, Jacob Toledo Ohio 1890
    2. Mary, Do you have a subscription to Ancestry or another entity that provided you with this information? I'm reaching a deadend in my searches and am wondering if paying for subscriptions is actually a good investment. Thanks for your help. Barbara ---- Mary Snow <marysnow@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Charlotte, > > Did Andrew's death certificate list the names of his parents? > > From your other posts, I see you have access to the census. In 1900, > Jacob and Celia 'Napieralla', b. German occupied Poland, were living at > 1332 Nebraska Street, with their son Andy, age 21, who was b. Nov. 1878 > in German occupied Poland. Cecylia had borne nine children, seven were > living in 1900. Boarding with them was Edward Pralla who was b. Ohio. > in 1882. No other Andrew Napierala appears in Lucas County, Ohio, in > 19100. > > In the 1910 census, in the 1500 block of Tecumseh Street in Toledo, > Cecylia Napierala (indexed as Napiekala Cuplia by Heritage Quest), 73, > b. German occupied Poland, mother-in-law was living with Tomasz and > Julianna Prala; Cecylia had borne nine children, six were living in > 1910. Julianna, b. German occupied Poland. In 1920, Cecilia > Napierala, 84, b. Poland, mother tongue Polish, was a grandmother living > with Joseph and Mary Kwiatkowski at 1129 Hamilton Street. > > In the 1910 census, Andrew Napieralla, age 31, and Cunegunda were living > at 1662 Nebraska Ave. Andrew indicated as b. German occupied Poland. > There was no other Andrew Napieralas living in Lucas County, Ohio, in 1910. > > In the 1920 census, Andrew Napierala, age 41, was living at 1662 > Nebraska Ave. He was a naturalized citizen, having been born in Poland, > mother tongue Polish. > > It is likely Andrew aka Henry was the son of Jacob and Cecylia Napierala. > > WWI and WWII draft registrations at ancestry.com in name of Henry. > > In the 1900 census, Frank Napierala, age 36, b. Jan. 1864 in German > occupied Poland, was living at 1676 Nebraska Ave., immigrated 1891; wife > Mary, also b. German occupied Poland, July 1864; children Pelagia, > Stanley, Joseph all b. German occupied Poland, all immigrating in 1891. > Living with his family was Michele Kwiatkowska, listed as mother, b. > 1833, German occupied Poland, immgrated 1891. In 1910, Frank Naprela, > age 45, was living in Springfield Twp., Lucas County, OH. His death > certificate may have the names of his parents. > > Once ship manifests are found, your task may be easier. > > Regards, > Mary > > > Charlotte Nash wrote: > > > >> I am trying to determine if Jacob and Cecylia Napierala are the parents of > >> Andrew Henry Napierala. I believe Andrew was born 1 Nov 1887 in Poland, > >> near, or in Germany, he may have a brother Frank and a sister Julianna and > >> others. Cecylia's maiden name was Stefanski. Jacob was born May 1830, > >> Cecylia Feb 1837. They immigrated to Toledo Ohio around 1890, I don't know > >> if they all came together. I would also like to know where they came from > >> in Poland/Germany. Andrew married Cunegunda Blochowski in Toledo. > >> Sometimes Andrew went by the name Henry. His name may have been Henry > >> Andrew. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/18/2007 09:44:22
    1. Re: [PBS] Napierala, Jacob Toledo Ohio 1890
    2. Charlotte Nash
    3. Mary, Thanks for the reply. There are no names of his parents on Andrew's death certificate. Yes I have access to the census and the Toledo city directory. I haven't been able to find a marriage certificate or a marriage date, there isn't much info on Henry's naturalization papers or his WWI draft card. There is conflicting dates of immigration. I too am assuming Jacob is Andrew's father but I am hoping for proof and a lead to a town in Poland/Germany. I do have a chance of finding Andrew in his wife's church records when I get to them. Thanks again, Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Mary Snow Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:07 PM To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PBS] Napierala, Jacob Toledo Ohio 1890 Charlotte, Did Andrew's death certificate list the names of his parents? From your other posts, I see you have access to the census. In 1900, Jacob and Celia 'Napieralla', b. German occupied Poland, were living at 1332 Nebraska Street, with their son Andy, age 21, who was b. Nov. 1878 in German occupied Poland. Cecylia had borne nine children, seven were living in 1900. Boarding with them was Edward Pralla who was b. Ohio. in 1882. No other Andrew Napierala appears in Lucas County, Ohio, in 19100. In the 1910 census, in the 1500 block of Tecumseh Street in Toledo, Cecylia Napierala (indexed as Napiekala Cuplia by Heritage Quest), 73, b. German occupied Poland, mother-in-law was living with Tomasz and Julianna Prala; Cecylia had borne nine children, six were living in 1910. Julianna, b. German occupied Poland. In 1920, Cecilia Napierala, 84, b. Poland, mother tongue Polish, was a grandmother living with Joseph and Mary Kwiatkowski at 1129 Hamilton Street. In the 1910 census, Andrew Napieralla, age 31, and Cunegunda were living at 1662 Nebraska Ave. Andrew indicated as b. German occupied Poland. There was no other Andrew Napieralas living in Lucas County, Ohio, in 1910. In the 1920 census, Andrew Napierala, age 41, was living at 1662 Nebraska Ave. He was a naturalized citizen, having been born in Poland, mother tongue Polish. It is likely Andrew aka Henry was the son of Jacob and Cecylia Napierala. WWI and WWII draft registrations at ancestry.com in name of Henry. In the 1900 census, Frank Napierala, age 36, b. Jan. 1864 in German occupied Poland, was living at 1676 Nebraska Ave., immigrated 1891; wife Mary, also b. German occupied Poland, July 1864; children Pelagia, Stanley, Joseph all b. German occupied Poland, all immigrating in 1891. Living with his family was Michele Kwiatkowska, listed as mother, b. 1833, German occupied Poland, immgrated 1891. In 1910, Frank Naprela, age 45, was living in Springfield Twp., Lucas County, OH. His death certificate may have the names of his parents. Once ship manifests are found, your task may be easier. Regards, Mary > Charlotte Nash wrote: > >> I am trying to determine if Jacob and Cecylia Napierala are the parents of >> Andrew Henry Napierala. I believe Andrew was born 1 Nov 1887 in Poland, >> near, or in Germany, he may have a brother Frank and a sister Julianna and >> others. Cecylia's maiden name was Stefanski. Jacob was born May 1830, >> Cecylia Feb 1837. They immigrated to Toledo Ohio around 1890, I don't know >> if they all came together. I would also like to know where they came from >> in Poland/Germany. Andrew married Cunegunda Blochowski in Toledo. >> Sometimes Andrew went by the name Henry. His name may have been Henry >> Andrew. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/18/2007 12:52:56
    1. Re: [PBS] Napierala, Jacob Toledo Ohio 1890
    2. Charlotte Nash
    3. Thanks for the reply, There is a Frank Napierala in Toledo who I think was a brother of Andrew. Did Appolonia's brother Frank live in Wisconsin? Are the LDS films for the area of Wisconsin or the area of Poland? I don't know of any connection between the Napieralas of Toledo and those of Wisconsin. Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Dori Rhody Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:36 AM To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PBS] Napierala, Jacob Toledo Ohio 1890 My husband's ggrandfather was Ignace Naparalla who was a widower who married Appolonia Novak. They came through Baltimore ane were from Roznowo, Kr. Oborniki Posan Prussia. This is north of Posan Prussia. To date I have not found thier records but have found Appolonia's brother Frank's records. There are lots of Napaierala's (various spellings) in Princeton, Wi and they are from the same area. The LDS does have some films for the area. Dori Charlotte Nash wrote: > I am trying to determine if Jacob and Cecylia Napierala are the parents of > Andrew Henry Napierala. I believe Andrew was born 1 Nov 1887 in Poland, > near, or in Germany, he may have a brother Frank and a sister Julianna and > others. Cecylia's maiden name was Stefanski. Jacob was born May 1830, > Cecylia Feb 1837. They immigrated to Toledo Ohio around 1890, I don't know > if they all came together. I would also like to know where they came from > in Poland/Germany. Andrew married Cunegunda Blochowski in Toledo. > Sometimes Andrew went by the name Henry. His name may have been Henry > Andrew. Thanks. > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/18/2007 12:33:21
    1. Re: [PBS] Surname- KRAKOWIAK
    2. Pamela Jansen
    3. That is certainly a possibility. It makes sense to me anyway. Thanks Joe yakimicki <yakimicki@insightbb.com> wrote: I'm going to go out on a limb here, but doesn't Krakowiak mean something like "from Krakow" the major city in Poland (aka Cracow)? Obviously they could have moved around a bit. I would imagine these types of names were given to people AFTER they moved from the town they are named after. Would make a lot of sense to add "from Krakow" to the end of everyone's name living in the city. It would make sense though if, say, Jan and Rosalia moved to a little village, we'll call it Nova Siolo. In Nova Siolo the locals could all call the newcomers Jan and Rosalia Krakowiak rather than 'the new people". My last name is the same type of name, named after a village in Ukraine. This link will show you how frequently the borders have changed in that region of the world (and where the borders were). http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/polhistory.htm Just because the borders change, doesn't mean people will call themselves a different ethnicity. I have friends who have ancestors from Kiev (ukraine) that call themselves Polish, while others from the same city claim they are Russian. Joe Yakimicki On Sep 18, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Pamela Jansen wrote: > I am not sure, I really don't know much at all really. I think they > were from near Radom or Izla or Ilza if that makes any sense. > Everything I have ever found says Poland/ Russia which does not > make sense to me. The family says they are Polish. But one memeber > was inducted into Russian Army and never heard from again. Maybe > they are from near Russia ? > Thanks, Pam > > Terissa Schor wrote: > Pamela- > > Are you certain of the spelling of Biedzychow? I'm having > difficulty finding > it. There is a Biedrzychow near Ostrowiec Swie~tokrzyski. Is that the > village you're talking about? > > -Terissa > > On 9/17/07, Pamela Jansen > wrote: >> >> Jan KRAKOWIAK *married* Uliana RZEPKA / somewhere in Poland, maybe >> Ilza >> >> or Biedzychow, or Radom. >> >> >> >> Children: >> >> Antoinette KRAKOWIAK B: 2-16-1887 Biedzychow, Radom, Poland >> D: 9-22-1942 Pittsburgh, >> Pennsylvania, U.S.A. >> >> Bolek KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Inducted into Russian Army and >> never >> seen or >> heard from again. >> >> Geofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >> >> Teofil (aka) Theofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >> >> Feliks (aka) Felix KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >> >> Amelia KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: Mr. Zebroski in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? D: >> ? >> >> Zdieslaw KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >> >> Stanislava aka (Stella) B: ? M: 1st time in U.S.A. 2nd time in >> France 1 >> son each marriage. >> D: ? >> >> Can anyone help me find the missing links here ? Thank You, Pamela >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with >> Yahoo! >> FareChase. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Terissa Schor > terissa.schor@gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > --------------------------------- > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > today! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.

    09/18/2007 12:14:43
    1. Re: [PBS] Napierala, Jacob Toledo Ohio 1890
    2. Dori Rhody
    3. Ignac & Appolonia Naparalla and Frank Novak all with another Napierela family all lived in Wisc. The LDS film is for Poland. Dori Charlotte Nash wrote: > Thanks for the reply, > > There is a Frank Napierala in Toledo who I think was a brother of Andrew. > Did Appolonia's brother Frank live in Wisconsin? > Are the LDS films for the area of Wisconsin or the area of Poland? > I don't know of any connection between the Napieralas of Toledo and those of > Wisconsin. > Charlotte > > > >

    09/18/2007 12:13:10
    1. Re: [PBS] Surname- KRAKOWIAK
    2. Joe yakimicki
    3. I'm going to go out on a limb here, but doesn't Krakowiak mean something like "from Krakow" the major city in Poland (aka Cracow)? Obviously they could have moved around a bit. I would imagine these types of names were given to people AFTER they moved from the town they are named after. Would make a lot of sense to add "from Krakow" to the end of everyone's name living in the city. It would make sense though if, say, Jan and Rosalia moved to a little village, we'll call it Nova Siolo. In Nova Siolo the locals could all call the newcomers Jan and Rosalia Krakowiak rather than 'the new people". My last name is the same type of name, named after a village in Ukraine. This link will show you how frequently the borders have changed in that region of the world (and where the borders were). http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/polhistory.htm Just because the borders change, doesn't mean people will call themselves a different ethnicity. I have friends who have ancestors from Kiev (ukraine) that call themselves Polish, while others from the same city claim they are Russian. Joe Yakimicki On Sep 18, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Pamela Jansen wrote: > I am not sure, I really don't know much at all really. I think they > were from near Radom or Izla or Ilza if that makes any sense. > Everything I have ever found says Poland/ Russia which does not > make sense to me. The family says they are Polish. But one memeber > was inducted into Russian Army and never heard from again. Maybe > they are from near Russia ? > Thanks, Pam > > Terissa Schor <terissa.schor@gmail.com> wrote: > Pamela- > > Are you certain of the spelling of Biedzychow? I'm having > difficulty finding > it. There is a Biedrzychow near Ostrowiec Swie~tokrzyski. Is that the > village you're talking about? > > -Terissa > > On 9/17/07, Pamela Jansen > wrote: >> >> Jan KRAKOWIAK *married* Uliana RZEPKA / somewhere in Poland, maybe >> Ilza >> >> or Biedzychow, or Radom. >> >> >> >> Children: >> >> Antoinette KRAKOWIAK B: 2-16-1887 Biedzychow, Radom, Poland >> D: 9-22-1942 Pittsburgh, >> Pennsylvania, U.S.A. >> >> Bolek KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Inducted into Russian Army and >> never >> seen or >> heard from again. >> >> Geofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >> >> Teofil (aka) Theofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >> >> Feliks (aka) Felix KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >> >> Amelia KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: Mr. Zebroski in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? D: >> ? >> >> Zdieslaw KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? >> >> Stanislava aka (Stella) B: ? M: 1st time in U.S.A. 2nd time in >> France 1 >> son each marriage. >> D: ? >> >> Can anyone help me find the missing links here ? Thank You, Pamela >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with >> Yahoo! >> FareChase. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Terissa Schor > terissa.schor@gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > --------------------------------- > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > today! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

    09/18/2007 11:43:20
    1. Re: [PBS] Napierala's in Toledo
    2. Charlotte Nash
    3. I know of a Frank Napierala but the time period is off. If anything he would be the father of the Frank you are looking for. My interest in Frank is I believe he is a brother to the Andrew I am working on. Below is what I found in the Toledo city directory but again the time period is off. I did see a WWI draft card for Joseph Napierala living in Toledo but he was born in West Virginia so I didn't pay any attention to him as I don't believe any of my Napieralas came from there. In the 1900 census there is a Frank Napierala, age 36 his wife is Mary 35, their children are Pelagia 15, Stanley 14, Joseph 12, Michael 4, Wicnety (which is in later years Vincent) 2, and Terasa 1/2 years old. In the 1910 census there is a Frank Naprela age 45, his wife Mary 47, children Michel 14, Woncy 11, Tracy 9, Tillie 5, Cash 3, and Rosie 8/12. I'm sure this is the same family as in 1900 census. In the 1930 census there is a Frank Napierala age 66, wife Mary 65, children Casper 23 and Rose 19. So there doesn't appear to be a son named Frank but that doesn't mean there couldn't be a son with the middle name Frank which he started using as his first name at some time. I don't know if I ever looked for a 1920 census on Frank. TOLEDO CITY DIRECTORY 1890 No Napierala 1891 Napierata, Frank, (with a 't'), lives at 1129 Tecumseh 1892 Napierata, Frank & Jacob, 1129 Tecumseh 1894 Napierala, (with an 'l') Frank & Jacob live at 1676 Nebraska 1895 Napierata, Frank, laborer, 1676 Nebraska Napierata, Jacob, laborer, 1618 Nebraska 1896 Napierata, Frank & Jacob 1897 Napierata, Frank, laborer, house 1676 Nebraska Napierata, Julia, sorter H Rosen, boards 1666 Nebraska Napierata, Jacob, laborer, house 1666 Nebraska 1898 Napierata, Frank, laborer, house 1676 Nebraska Napierata, Jacob, laborer, house 1666 Nebraska 1899 Napierata, Andrew, laborer, house 518 Detroit Napierata, Frank, laborer, house 1676 Nebraska Napierata, Jacob, laborer, boards 518 Detroit 1900 Napierala, Andrew, laborer, boards at 1431 Nebraska Napierala, Frank, laborer, house 1676 Nebraska Napierala, Jacob, laborer, house 1431 Nebraska Napierala, Pelagia, seamstress, boards 1676 Nebraska -----Original Message----- From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lori Ann Sutton Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:16 PM To: POLANDBORDERSURNAMES@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PBS] Napierala's in Toledo I am also looking for Napieralas in Toledo, Ohio. My grandfather's half sister, Frances Livo, married a Frank Napierala. Frances was born in 1911 and died in 1990. Frances's sister, Josephine, married a Joseph Napierala. I have a couple of pictures, but no dates. I have been told they lived on 1775 Nebraska street. I believe Josephine had two children, a girl and a boy. If anyone has any information, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Lori Sutton chsary@juno.com Livo,Napierala, Suchon, Perkowski, Gostomski, Grygrowicz, Walenga _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1

    09/18/2007 11:21:54
    1. Re: [PBS] Napierala's in Toledo
    2. Lori Ann Sutton
    3. I am also looking for Napieralas in Toledo, Ohio. My grandfather's half sister, Frances Livo, married a Frank Napierala. Frances was born in 1911 and died in 1990. Frances's sister, Josephine, married a Joseph Napierala. I have a couple of pictures, but no dates. I have been told they lived on 1775 Nebraska street. I believe Josephine had two children, a girl and a boy. If anyone has any information, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Lori Sutton chsary@juno.com Livo,Napierala, Suchon, Perkowski, Gostomski, Grygrowicz, Walenga _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words?  Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1

    09/18/2007 10:15:32
    1. Re: [PBS] Napierala, Jacob Toledo Ohio 1890
    2. Mary Snow
    3. Charlotte, Did Andrew's death certificate list the names of his parents? From your other posts, I see you have access to the census. In 1900, Jacob and Celia 'Napieralla', b. German occupied Poland, were living at 1332 Nebraska Street, with their son Andy, age 21, who was b. Nov. 1878 in German occupied Poland. Cecylia had borne nine children, seven were living in 1900. Boarding with them was Edward Pralla who was b. Ohio. in 1882. No other Andrew Napierala appears in Lucas County, Ohio, in 19100. In the 1910 census, in the 1500 block of Tecumseh Street in Toledo, Cecylia Napierala (indexed as Napiekala Cuplia by Heritage Quest), 73, b. German occupied Poland, mother-in-law was living with Tomasz and Julianna Prala; Cecylia had borne nine children, six were living in 1910. Julianna, b. German occupied Poland. In 1920, Cecilia Napierala, 84, b. Poland, mother tongue Polish, was a grandmother living with Joseph and Mary Kwiatkowski at 1129 Hamilton Street. In the 1910 census, Andrew Napieralla, age 31, and Cunegunda were living at 1662 Nebraska Ave. Andrew indicated as b. German occupied Poland. There was no other Andrew Napieralas living in Lucas County, Ohio, in 1910. In the 1920 census, Andrew Napierala, age 41, was living at 1662 Nebraska Ave. He was a naturalized citizen, having been born in Poland, mother tongue Polish. It is likely Andrew aka Henry was the son of Jacob and Cecylia Napierala. WWI and WWII draft registrations at ancestry.com in name of Henry. In the 1900 census, Frank Napierala, age 36, b. Jan. 1864 in German occupied Poland, was living at 1676 Nebraska Ave., immigrated 1891; wife Mary, also b. German occupied Poland, July 1864; children Pelagia, Stanley, Joseph all b. German occupied Poland, all immigrating in 1891. Living with his family was Michele Kwiatkowska, listed as mother, b. 1833, German occupied Poland, immgrated 1891. In 1910, Frank Naprela, age 45, was living in Springfield Twp., Lucas County, OH. His death certificate may have the names of his parents. Once ship manifests are found, your task may be easier. Regards, Mary > Charlotte Nash wrote: > >> I am trying to determine if Jacob and Cecylia Napierala are the parents of >> Andrew Henry Napierala. I believe Andrew was born 1 Nov 1887 in Poland, >> near, or in Germany, he may have a brother Frank and a sister Julianna and >> others. Cecylia's maiden name was Stefanski. Jacob was born May 1830, >> Cecylia Feb 1837. They immigrated to Toledo Ohio around 1890, I don't know >> if they all came together. I would also like to know where they came from >> in Poland/Germany. Andrew married Cunegunda Blochowski in Toledo. >> Sometimes Andrew went by the name Henry. His name may have been Henry >> Andrew. >

    09/18/2007 09:06:32
    1. Re: [PBS] Surname- KRAKOWIAK
    2. Terissa Schor
    3. Pamela- Are you certain of the spelling of Biedzychow? I'm having difficulty finding it. There is a Biedrzychow near Ostrowiec Swie~tokrzyski. Is that the village you're talking about? -Terissa On 9/17/07, Pamela Jansen <pamela_jansen@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Jan KRAKOWIAK *married* Uliana RZEPKA / somewhere in Poland, maybe > Ilza > > or Biedzychow, or Radom. > > > > Children: > > Antoinette KRAKOWIAK B: 2-16-1887 Biedzychow, Radom, Poland > D: 9-22-1942 Pittsburgh, > Pennsylvania, U.S.A. > > Bolek KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Inducted into Russian Army and > never > seen or > heard from again. > > Geofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > Teofil (aka) Theofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > Feliks (aka) Felix KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > Amelia KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: Mr. Zebroski in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? D: > ? > > Zdieslaw KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > Stanislava aka (Stella) B: ? M: 1st time in U.S.A. 2nd time in France 1 > son each marriage. > D: ? > > Can anyone help me find the missing links here ? Thank You, Pamela > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > FareChase. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Terissa Schor terissa.schor@gmail.com

    09/18/2007 04:59:15
    1. Re: [PBS] Surname- KRAKOWIAK
    2. Pamela Jansen
    3. I am not sure, I really don't know much at all really. I think they were from near Radom or Izla or Ilza if that makes any sense. Everything I have ever found says Poland/ Russia which does not make sense to me. The family says they are Polish. But one memeber was inducted into Russian Army and never heard from again. Maybe they are from near Russia ? Thanks, Pam Terissa Schor <terissa.schor@gmail.com> wrote: Pamela- Are you certain of the spelling of Biedzychow? I'm having difficulty finding it. There is a Biedrzychow near Ostrowiec Swie~tokrzyski. Is that the village you're talking about? -Terissa On 9/17/07, Pamela Jansen wrote: > > Jan KRAKOWIAK *married* Uliana RZEPKA / somewhere in Poland, maybe > Ilza > > or Biedzychow, or Radom. > > > > Children: > > Antoinette KRAKOWIAK B: 2-16-1887 Biedzychow, Radom, Poland > D: 9-22-1942 Pittsburgh, > Pennsylvania, U.S.A. > > Bolek KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Inducted into Russian Army and > never > seen or > heard from again. > > Geofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > Teofil (aka) Theofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > Feliks (aka) Felix KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > Amelia KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: Mr. Zebroski in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? D: > ? > > Zdieslaw KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? > > Stanislava aka (Stella) B: ? M: 1st time in U.S.A. 2nd time in France 1 > son each marriage. > D: ? > > Can anyone help me find the missing links here ? Thank You, Pamela > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > FareChase. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Terissa Schor terissa.schor@gmail.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

    09/18/2007 03:24:06
    1. [PBS] Napierala, Jacob Toledo Ohio 1890
    2. Charlotte Nash
    3. I am trying to determine if Jacob and Cecylia Napierala are the parents of Andrew Henry Napierala. I believe Andrew was born 1 Nov 1887 in Poland, near, or in Germany, he may have a brother Frank and a sister Julianna and others. Cecylia's maiden name was Stefanski. Jacob was born May 1830, Cecylia Feb 1837. They immigrated to Toledo Ohio around 1890, I don't know if they all came together. I would also like to know where they came from in Poland/Germany. Andrew married Cunegunda Blochowski in Toledo. Sometimes Andrew went by the name Henry. His name may have been Henry Andrew. Thanks.

    09/18/2007 02:51:34
    1. Re: [PBS] Napierala, Jacob Toledo Ohio 1890
    2. Dori Rhody
    3. My husband's ggrandfather was Ignace Naparalla who was a widower who married Appolonia Novak. They came through Baltimore ane were from Roznowo, Kr. Oborniki Posan Prussia. This is north of Posan Prussia. To date I have not found thier records but have found Appolonia's brother Frank's records. There are lots of Napaierala's (various spellings) in Princeton, Wi and they are from the same area. The LDS does have some films for the area. Dori Charlotte Nash wrote: > I am trying to determine if Jacob and Cecylia Napierala are the parents of > Andrew Henry Napierala. I believe Andrew was born 1 Nov 1887 in Poland, > near, or in Germany, he may have a brother Frank and a sister Julianna and > others. Cecylia's maiden name was Stefanski. Jacob was born May 1830, > Cecylia Feb 1837. They immigrated to Toledo Ohio around 1890, I don't know > if they all came together. I would also like to know where they came from > in Poland/Germany. Andrew married Cunegunda Blochowski in Toledo. > Sometimes Andrew went by the name Henry. His name may have been Henry > Andrew. Thanks. > > > >

    09/18/2007 02:35:30
    1. [PBS] Surname- KRAKOWIAK
    2. Pamela Jansen
    3. Jan KRAKOWIAK *married* Uliana RZEPKA / somewhere in Poland, maybe Ilza or Biedzychow, or Radom. Children: Antoinette KRAKOWIAK B: 2-16-1887 Biedzychow, Radom, Poland D: 9-22-1942 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. Bolek KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Inducted into Russian Army and never seen or heard from again. Geofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Teofil (aka) Theofil KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Feliks (aka) Felix KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Amelia KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: Mr. Zebroski in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? D: ? Zdieslaw KRAKOWIAK B: ? M: ? D: ? Stanislava aka (Stella) B: ? M: 1st time in U.S.A. 2nd time in France 1 son each marriage. D: ? Can anyone help me find the missing links here ? Thank You, Pamela --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.

    09/17/2007 11:10:04
    1. Re: [PBS] looking for Marcewicz
    2. Marilyn Kowalski
    3. Thanks Charles.........our family has input most of this info...its just that we have little or no refrences to document what we think we know !! charles chase <retiredchase@yahoo.com> wrote: Marilyn-------------possibly try the Ancetry.com Family tree link below----------charles http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&_8000C002=&_8000C003=Marcewicz&_80004002=&_80004003=Marcewicz&_80008002=&_80008003=&gsby=&gsb1co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb1pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd1co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd1pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3B_80000002%3B_80000003&srchb=t&prox=1&db=&;ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=ansmp&so=3 Marilyn Kowalski wrote: Hello to all I'm stumped on this fellow Bartoney Marcewicz. He came over from Poland (possibly the Warszawski Co area) about 1910, married to a younger woman, Antionette Kendzierski. They left a son in Poland, and had several more in Michigan, Detroit area. Both died in 1927-28 in Michigan Any suggestions?? Thanks marilynk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Marilyn K.

    09/15/2007 12:03:26
    1. Re: [PBS] looking for Marcewicz
    2. Marilyn Kowalski
    3. Thank you Tina......I was never successful before in finding him in the census...I will be more diligent now... Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: His first name is misspelled. It should be Bartlomiej. That is Bartholomew in Polish. I just looked at the 1930 census, and it says that he arrived in the US in 1912. He will not be in the 1910 census. The 1930 census also shows that he had filed his Declaration of Intention to become a citizen ... That paperwork the first step. Try finding that document. It should say where he was born. Tina Ellis On 9/10/07, Marilyn Kowalski wrote: > > Hello to all > I'm stumped on this fellow Bartoney Marcewicz. He came over from Poland > (possibly the Warszawski Co area) about 1910, married to a younger woman, > Antionette Kendzierski. They left a son in Poland, and had several more in > Michigan, Detroit area. Both died in 1927-28 in Michigan > Any suggestions?? Thanks > marilynk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Marilyn K.

    09/15/2007 11:37:27
    1. Re: [PBS] 1910 Census
    2. Mary Snow
    3. Sent to your email. Regards, Mary Barbara wrote: > Hi Mary, > I believe my grandmother worked in a mill or cigar factory. My dad and > uncle said their dad worked for a railroad, (he worked in one for sure when > the kids were little and in Pa). > I have used Heritage Quest through the library, is there something special I > do to search to get the information you got? can you cut and paste or send > me the page to my e-mail address? > I am dying to look at it myself. It sounds so interesting and may be some > names on the page that look familiar to names on other papers I have. > >

    09/14/2007 05:57:41
    1. [PBS] Next TUGG Meeting
    2. Jim Onyschuk
    3. Toronto Ukrainian Genealogical Group (TUGG) Announces Dr. Romana Bahry will speak on "Szematisms as Another Genealogical Source" Tuesday October 9, 2007 >From 7:30 to 9:30 p.m. St Vladimir Institute, 620 Spadina Avenue, Toronto. Contact: (905)-841-6707

    09/14/2007 04:26:55