It's becoming a pain in the tush to listen to the people who are griping about "an invasion of privacy". There has been close to 10 messages in protest to one. The protesters are causing more trouble than the original post. Juli and Keith wrote: > Roman, > I am afraid I agree with the others, while true it is not a true invasion of > privacy it is becoming a pain in the tush to have several of these a day. > It should be stopped, other posts that are far more closely connected with > Poland such as food have been stopped so why not this one? > JULI > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roman" <romanka@comcast.net> > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS] Action Alert > > > >> Claire, >> >> You can always use the "Delete" button. What may not be of interest to >> you could well be quite interesting to others. Of course, I agree that >> it is not within the scope of this site - but why get mad! >> >> You subscribed to this site - so these posts cannot be viewed as an >> invasion of your privacy. >> >> Roman >> >> claire frustine wrote: >> >>> THIS HAS GOT TO STOP WHY WOULD ANY OF US RESEARCHING OUR FAMILYS CARE >>> >>>

Thank God for cooler heads Amen-------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman" <romanka@comcast.net> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Action Alert > Claire, > > You can always use the "Delete" button. What may not be of interest to > you could well be quite interesting to others. Of course, I agree that > it is not within the scope of this site - but why get mad! > > You subscribed to this site - so these posts cannot be viewed as an > invasion of your privacy. > > Roman > > claire frustine wrote: >> THIS HAS GOT TO STOP WHY WOULD ANY OF US RESEARCHING OUR FAMILYS CARE >> > ABOUT SOMETHING WE SEE ON THE NEWS AND READ IN THE PAPER EVERYDAY THIS > AMOUNTS TO AN INVASION OF OUR PRIVACY !!! CLAIRE FRUSTINE >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

***the only way to do that would be if the list owner moderates the list, i.e., previews and approves (or disapproves) every message sent to the list. I currently moderate 3 listservs, and I can tell you that it takes quite a bit of time. I do it in order to keep spam off my lists, but it is definitely time-consuming. At 12:49 AM 11/15/2007, you wrote: >Can't their E-mail be blocked from the list? If not why not? > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Urge Pakistan to End State of Emergency (Laila Cichos) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hear hear. I would like to hear from the list owner what he or she might say about the subject, though Laila 2007/11/15, Gerald Cierpilowski <gcierpil@comcast.net>: > > Hello listers who share the joy of opening emails that contain bits > of information and words of support as we pursue our research, > interests and diversions. > > The inappropriate posts which have come our way are an invasion of my > free time and hobby. How would the senders like it if I barged in on > their bowling, gardening, watching of tv, listening to a concert, > sewing a tapestry, painting or sculpting, playing their piano? When I > open an email from this list it is my time away from the news, > politics and sufferings of the world. When I'm done with my > interaction with the listers, I can get back to problems that have > not been solved in my absence. Perhaps I will be a bit refreshed and > have a mind a tad clearer as a result of my minutes of pure diversion. > > As much as I respect peoples' motivations, all technicalities > regarding freedom of speech and invasion of our privacy aside, there > are boundaries of courtesy that must be respected. I am in favor of > common courtesy. > > Gerald Cierpilowski > Lock Haven, PA > > > On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:49 PM, Juli and Keith wrote: > > > Roman, > > I am afraid I agree with the others, while true it is not a true > > invasion of > > privacy it is becoming a pain in the tush to have several of these > > a day. > > It should be stopped, other posts that are far more closely > > connected with > > Poland such as food have been stopped so why not this one? > > JULI > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roman" <romanka@comcast.net> > > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [PBS] Action Alert > > > > > >> Claire, > >> > >> You can always use the "Delete" button. What may not be of > >> interest to > >> you could well be quite interesting to others. Of course, I agree > >> that > >> it is not within the scope of this site - but why get mad! > >> > >> You subscribed to this site - so these posts cannot be viewed as an > >> invasion of your privacy. > >> > >> Roman > >> > >> claire frustine wrote: > >>> THIS HAS GOT TO STOP WHY WOULD ANY OF US RESEARCHING OUR FAMILYS > >>> CARE > >>> > >> ABOUT SOMETHING WE SEE ON THE NEWS AND READ IN THE PAPER EVERYDAY > >> THIS > >> AMOUNTS TO AN INVASION OF OUR PRIVACY !!! CLAIRE FRUSTINE > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- www.polfam.org www.polfam.org/cichos/index.html www.cichos.webbyen.dk http://www.slankedoktor.dk/blog/1drska

Hello listers who share the joy of opening emails that contain bits of information and words of support as we pursue our research, interests and diversions. The inappropriate posts which have come our way are an invasion of my free time and hobby. How would the senders like it if I barged in on their bowling, gardening, watching of tv, listening to a concert, sewing a tapestry, painting or sculpting, playing their piano? When I open an email from this list it is my time away from the news, politics and sufferings of the world. When I'm done with my interaction with the listers, I can get back to problems that have not been solved in my absence. Perhaps I will be a bit refreshed and have a mind a tad clearer as a result of my minutes of pure diversion. As much as I respect peoples' motivations, all technicalities regarding freedom of speech and invasion of our privacy aside, there are boundaries of courtesy that must be respected. I am in favor of common courtesy. Gerald Cierpilowski Lock Haven, PA On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:49 PM, Juli and Keith wrote: > Roman, > I am afraid I agree with the others, while true it is not a true > invasion of > privacy it is becoming a pain in the tush to have several of these > a day. > It should be stopped, other posts that are far more closely > connected with > Poland such as food have been stopped so why not this one? > JULI > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roman" <romanka@comcast.net> > To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS] Action Alert > > >> Claire, >> >> You can always use the "Delete" button. What may not be of >> interest to >> you could well be quite interesting to others. Of course, I agree >> that >> it is not within the scope of this site - but why get mad! >> >> You subscribed to this site - so these posts cannot be viewed as an >> invasion of your privacy. >> >> Roman >> >> claire frustine wrote: >>> THIS HAS GOT TO STOP WHY WOULD ANY OF US RESEARCHING OUR FAMILYS >>> CARE >>> >> ABOUT SOMETHING WE SEE ON THE NEWS AND READ IN THE PAPER EVERYDAY >> THIS >> AMOUNTS TO AN INVASION OF OUR PRIVACY !!! CLAIRE FRUSTINE >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Can't their E-mail be blocked from the list? If not why not? Today's Topics: 1. Re: Urge Pakistan to End State of Emergency (Laila Cichos)

Roman, I am afraid I agree with the others, while true it is not a true invasion of privacy it is becoming a pain in the tush to have several of these a day. It should be stopped, other posts that are far more closely connected with Poland such as food have been stopped so why not this one? JULI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman" <romanka@comcast.net> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Action Alert > Claire, > > You can always use the "Delete" button. What may not be of interest to > you could well be quite interesting to others. Of course, I agree that > it is not within the scope of this site - but why get mad! > > You subscribed to this site - so these posts cannot be viewed as an > invasion of your privacy. > > Roman > > claire frustine wrote: >> THIS HAS GOT TO STOP WHY WOULD ANY OF US RESEARCHING OUR FAMILYS CARE >> > ABOUT SOMETHING WE SEE ON THE NEWS AND READ IN THE PAPER EVERYDAY THIS > AMOUNTS TO AN INVASION OF OUR PRIVACY !!! CLAIRE FRUSTINE >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's true. Just delete what isn't of interest, keeping the blood pressure low. It isn't a matter of privacy because, once you put something out on the internet, it's out there for anyone to see, forever. You can't be very private and participate on the internet. There are lots of things that come through that I'm not at all interested in. I just delete those and wait for something that is of interest. While I do care what happens in the world and in the news, these petition things are, supposedly, of no use, other than to make people who sign them feel like they are helping. I just delete those along with all the jokes and cutesy friendship things that people send. I go on with listening to the news, watching old movies, painting and drawing, writing, checking e-mail, trying to find out more about Great Grandpa and his mother's lives in Prussia before they came to the U.S., and the usual washing and ironing, helping grandsons with homework. All those daily things I do. Now, if it was someone trying to make us all join up as terrorists or something like that (I actually got some of those on one list a while back! A hacker got through, they said.), I would be a little bit on the upset side. Relax, smile, and stay cool! And go on with looking for genealogy, or whatever you are interested in. Forget the rest. Cecelia Looking for Conitz, Sitz, Meier, Klawetter, Franz, and a host of others from many places > Claire, > > You can always use the "Delete" button. What may not be of interest to > you could well be quite interesting to others. Of course, I agree that > it is not within the scope of this site - but why get mad! > > You subscribed to this site - so these posts cannot be viewed as an > invasion of your privacy. > > Roman > > claire frustine wrote: >> THIS HAS GOT TO STOP WHY WOULD ANY OF US RESEARCHING OUR FAMILYS CARE >> > ABOUT SOMETHING WE SEE ON THE NEWS AND READ IN THE PAPER EVERYDAY THIS > AMOUNTS TO AN INVASION OF OUR PRIVACY !!! CLAIRE FRUSTINE

Claire, You can always use the "Delete" button. What may not be of interest to you could well be quite interesting to others. Of course, I agree that it is not within the scope of this site - but why get mad! You subscribed to this site - so these posts cannot be viewed as an invasion of your privacy. Roman claire frustine wrote: > THIS HAS GOT TO STOP WHY WOULD ANY OF US RESEARCHING OUR FAMILYS CARE > ABOUT SOMETHING WE SEE ON THE NEWS AND READ IN THE PAPER EVERYDAY THIS AMOUNTS TO AN INVASION OF OUR PRIVACY !!! CLAIRE FRUSTINE >

This is not the forum for politics-there are other forums for that! I'm sure that you have found those as well.

THIS HAS GOT TO STOP WHY WOULD ANY OF US RESEARCHING OUR FAMILYS CARE ABOUT SOMETHING WE SEE ON THE NEWS AND READ IN THE PAPER EVERYDAY THIS AMOUNTS TO AN INVASION OF OUR PRIVACY !!! CLAIRE FRUSTINE Cal and Diane Rix <calrix1@comcast.net> wrote: This is not the forum for politics-there are other forums for that! I'm sure that you have found those as well. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree. This not why I subscribe to this site. Please stop. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laila Cichos" <cichos@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] Action Alert from Danta W. > Hey what's going on? Please stop this spamming-like behaviour. Dont use > this > list for distributing agitation! > > Mail-owner, is there any way to stop this? > > Laila > > > 2007/11/14, sandlily@shaw.ca <sandlily@shaw.ca>: >> >> Danta W. has sent you an important action alert - read below for more >> info, and take action at: >> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/537746336 >> >> I am extremely concerned for the safety of activists and opposition >> leaders in Pakistan. Please sign this petition to the President of >> Pakistan >> asking him to end the state of emergency and restore constitutional >> rights: >> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/537746336 >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> ThePetitionSite.com provides tools and empowers individuals to make a >> difference and effect positive change through online activism. Get >> connected >> with the causes you care about, take action to make the world a better >> place, and start your own petition at http://www.ThePetitionSite.com! >> >> ThePetitionSite.com is powered by Care2.com, the largest online network >> for people who Care2 make a difference. With over 7 million members, we >> make >> it easy for you to live a healthy, sustainable lifestyle and protect the >> environment, human rights, education, women's rights, animal welfare, and >> much more... all in one place! Join our community at http://www.Care2.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > www.polfam.org > www.polfam.org/cichos/index.html > www.cichos.webbyen.dk > http://www.slankedoktor.dk/blog/1drska > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1130 - Release Date: > 11/14/2007 9:27 AM > >

Hey what's going on? Please stop this spamming-like behaviour. Dont use this list for distributing agitation! Mail-owner, is there any way to stop this? Laila 2007/11/14, sandlily@shaw.ca <sandlily@shaw.ca>: > > Danta W. has sent you an important action alert - read below for more > info, and take action at: > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/537746336 > > I am extremely concerned for the safety of activists and opposition > leaders in Pakistan. Please sign this petition to the President of Pakistan > asking him to end the state of emergency and restore constitutional rights: > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/537746336 > > > ------------------------------------ > ThePetitionSite.com provides tools and empowers individuals to make a > difference and effect positive change through online activism. Get connected > with the causes you care about, take action to make the world a better > place, and start your own petition at http://www.ThePetitionSite.com! > > ThePetitionSite.com is powered by Care2.com, the largest online network > for people who Care2 make a difference. With over 7 million members, we make > it easy for you to live a healthy, sustainable lifestyle and protect the > environment, human rights, education, women's rights, animal welfare, and > much more... all in one place! Join our community at http://www.Care2.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- www.polfam.org www.polfam.org/cichos/index.html www.cichos.webbyen.dk http://www.slankedoktor.dk/blog/1drska

this list is NOT entended for spamming of any kind, whether it be for selling things or ideas. Please don't use it for such purposes again, thank you. Laila 2007/11/14, Danuta Janina Wójcik <sandlily@shaw.ca>: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rosa D., Care2 Action Alerts > To: sandlily@shaw.ca > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:43 PM > Subject: Urge Pakistan to End State of Emergency > > > Care2 subscriber since Dec 21, 2006 Unsubscribe | Forward to a > Friend | Take Action > Dear Danuta, > > Today, former premier and outspoken opposition leader Benazir > Bhutto was put under house arrest to prevent her from leading a > cross-country caravan to protest the military rule in Pakistan. > > Sign this petition to call for her release. > > Bhutto is urging the international community to stop backing > President Musharraf -- who imposed emergency rule on November 3 -- and "to > stop backing the man whose dictatorship threatens to engulf this > nuclear-armed state in chaos." Nonetheless, President Musharraf vigorously > defended the emergency rule, insisting that it would not interfere with free > and fair elections. > > We need to act now. In Pakistan, a prolonged state of emergency > will pave the way for an increase in human rights abuses, torture and even > more arbitrary detentions and disappearances. > > Emergency powers are not above the law. Call on General > Musharraf to put an end to the state of emergency and to restore > constitutional rights. > > Thank you for taking action. > > Rosa, > Care2 and ThePetitionSite Team > > > > > Urge President Musharraf to End the State of Emergency > > > The voices of democracy shouldn't be silenced anymore. > Activists, lawyers and opposition leaders must be released immediately. > Forward to a friend >> > Read the petition >> > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To stop receiving this newsletter, visit: > http://www.care2.com/newsletters/unsub/3/0/8203977/f4f7fd14 > > or send a blank email message to: > ng-u-3-8203977-4410055-8471858-e1287b24@australia.care2.com > > Care2.com, Inc. > 275 Shoreline Drive, Suite 150 > Redwood City, CA 94065 > http://www.care2.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: Rosa D., Care2 Action Alerts To: sandlily@shaw.ca Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:43 PM Subject: Urge Pakistan to End State of Emergency Care2 subscriber since Dec 21, 2006 Unsubscribe | Forward to a Friend | Take Action Dear Danuta, Today, former premier and outspoken opposition leader Benazir Bhutto was put under house arrest to prevent her from leading a cross-country caravan to protest the military rule in Pakistan. Sign this petition to call for her release. Bhutto is urging the international community to stop backing President Musharraf -- who imposed emergency rule on November 3 -- and "to stop backing the man whose dictatorship threatens to engulf this nuclear-armed state in chaos." Nonetheless, President Musharraf vigorously defended the emergency rule, insisting that it would not interfere with free and fair elections. We need to act now. In Pakistan, a prolonged state of emergency will pave the way for an increase in human rights abuses, torture and even more arbitrary detentions and disappearances. Emergency powers are not above the law. Call on General Musharraf to put an end to the state of emergency and to restore constitutional rights. Thank you for taking action. Rosa, Care2 and ThePetitionSite Team Urge President Musharraf to End the State of Emergency The voices of democracy shouldn't be silenced anymore. Activists, lawyers and opposition leaders must be released immediately. Forward to a friend >> Read the petition >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To stop receiving this newsletter, visit: http://www.care2.com/newsletters/unsub/3/0/8203977/f4f7fd14 or send a blank email message to: ng-u-3-8203977-4410055-8471858-e1287b24@australia.care2.com Care2.com, Inc. 275 Shoreline Drive, Suite 150 Redwood City, CA 94065 http://www.care2.com

Many thanks again for so much useful advice. I like Fred Hoffman's suggestion that "surnames tend to come from concrete, familiar, everyday things". I am reminded, in particular, of one of my Flemish friends, called Bruynooghe, who true to his name has deep brown eyes, and of a French friend, Roussel, who has brilliant red hair, both no doubt inherited from a distant ancestor. I suspect that people with the surname Smith or Kowalski are, like me, bigger than other people on the average, because it goes with the job!

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Hi, Ella <singmore@gmail.com> wrote: > Absolutely, positively Madej and Mathea are not > the same names! > Not even remotely close other than both start > with letter 'M'! True. MATHEA comes from the Biblical given name we know as Matthias; MADEJ comes from the Latin given name more familiar to us as Amadeus. Ella also wrote: > Also, in the contemporary Polish, there is no > feminine version of > the name Madej. In the old days (like 70+ years > ago), a wife of > Madej would be sometimes called Madejowa, and a > daugther > Madejówna, but basically the name in the > official > records would be Madej for male or female. All true -- but remember, genealogists usually are dealing with records more than 70 years old. So it depends on the time frame. If you're dealing with comparatively recent records, MADEJ is the standard form in all cases. In older records, you will often see MADEJOWA for Mrs. Madej and MADEJÓWNA for Miss Madej. Also, Charles wrote: > In one of my records I have female version of a > surname that does not follow the rule below: > > Male---Slawik, Female---Slawikin That's almost certainly a German form. Germans used to add -in or -inn to the end of surnames to indicate a female. I'm guessing this form SLAWIKIN shows up in a record from the German partition. I should add that we do see the ending -INA used in feminine forms of Polish surnames, in older records, when added to a surname derived from a noun ending in -a. So in older records "Mrs. Zaremba" will often appear as ZAREMBINA, and "Miss Zaremba" will often be ZAREMBIANKA; "Mrs. Zmuda" may appear as ZMUDZINA, and "Miss Zmuda" as ZMUDZIANKA. I almost hate to mention this, because it's archaic and it complicates things. But I've run into it too often in records to ignore it. For that matter, in some areas you'll also see "Miss Kowalska" appear as KOWALSZCZANKA -- the endings -anka and -onka were used to create forms for unmarried females, and sometimes these were even added to names ending in -ski, -cki-, and -zki, with modification of the consonants before the ending (for instance, -sk- to -szcz-). This is a dialect feature, not seen in standard Polish; but in some areas you'll run into -anka's and -onka's all over the place, especially in northeastern and southeastern Poland. So when dealing with older records, you sometimes have to be prepared to recognize archaic and dialect forms of surnames. Things are simpler if you have only modern documents to deal with. In modern Poland there are even a fair number of females who choose to go by masculine forms of names ending in -ski, -cki, and -zki! This is a phenomenon encountered mostly in the cities, and so far I get the impression it's not going to catch on -- I don't think the feminine forms ending in -ska, -cka, and -zka are going to die out. But the 2002 PESEL data used in Prof. Rymut's CD version of the _Dictionary of Surnames in Current Use in Poland at the Beginning of the 21st Century_ clearly shows that, in the cities at least, there are some who reject all gender differentiation in surname forms. It used to be you could tell people "The wife or daughter of a man named KOWALSKI will always go by KOWALSKA." It ain't necessarily true any more.... Fred Hoffman Author, _Polish Surnames: Origins & Meanings_ www.fredhoff.com

Hello Valerie. I have a ancestor who was listed as Mathea in Germany . I wonder if it is a female variation of Madej or is that thought too far out? Best wishes Laila 2007/11/13, Valerie Koselka <gardenld@ix.netcom.com>: > > Hello Stacy, > > I might be able to help you with the Madej surname as mine have also > come from Budy Glogowskie, Poland. Zofia Wajsowicz married Filip Madej > probably before 1883. Zofia Wajsowicz was my great grand aunt. > > This information was obtained by writing to the parish priest, Fr. Pawel > Zimny. Originally he set my letter aside but found it recently and > answered my questions about the Wajsowicz family. > > Also used some microfilms at the Family History Center to glean > additional facts. Found the marriage of Zofia's parents that way! > > If you look at stevemorse.org, use the gold form and type in the surname > Madej with the village of Budy. You will find all who have left from > there. It is very neat and organized way to look at all the manifests > of those from that locality. > > I have recently discovered some Madej family in the parish of St. Hedwig > in Detroit, gotten some online death notices, checked census and > immigration records and found one grave in St. Hedwig Cemetery by > accident. Still more to do and it is possible to obtain more > information about your family. Don't give up and if you would like to > write to me privately, please do. I will look in the Madej folder for > additional names and info. > > Regards, > Valerie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- www.polfam.org www.polfam.org/cichos/index.html www.cichos.webbyen.dk http://www.slankedoktor.dk/blog/1drska

Absolutely, positively Madej and Mathea are not the same names! Not even remotely close other than both start with letter 'M'! Also, in the contemporary Polish, there is no feminine version of the name Madej. In the old days (like 70+ years ago), a wife of Madej would be sometimes called Madejowa, and a daugther Madejówna, but basically the name in the official records would be Madej for male or female. Just a quick lesson in Polish male/female last names. Only the names that end with - ski/ska & -cki/cka have both male/female forms. All the others even if they end with a vowel, like Maciejko, Noga, do not have male/female ending. If you folow that simple rule in 99% of cases you will be correct. Ella > -----Original Message----- > From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laila > Cichos > Sent: November-13-07 3:57 AM > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PBS] Madej surname > > Hello Valerie. > > I have a ancestor who was listed as Mathea in Germany . I wonder if it > is a > female variation of Madej or is that thought too far out? > > Best wishes > > Laila > >