Did a search for cigar factories in that area. Found some information: General Cigar Factory, Mount Carmel It's mentioned in this article: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18877874&BRD=2715&PAG=461&dept_id=558782&rfi=6 Is this the one you meant? Maybe the local library in that area may have some information for you. Tina On Nov 25, 2007 2:44 PM, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: > What was her maiden name and her married name? > > Tina > > > On Nov 25, 2007 1:16 PM, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > Tina, > > After reading your information posted below, I decided to respond by asking > > a few questions about the areas you listed. My grandmother came to the US, > > Northampton in 1909. My cousin said the worked in a cigar factory. Is > > there any way I can find information on where these factories would have > > been and would there still be records? I have never been able to find out > > where she lived at that time, although I have records after 1911. > > Thanks for any suggestions or help.. >

Tina, After reading your information posted below, I decided to respond by asking a few questions about the areas you listed. My grandmother came to the US, Northampton in 1909. My cousin said the worked in a cigar factory. Is there any way I can find information on where these factories would have been and would there still be records? I have never been able to find out where she lived at that time, although I have records after 1911. Thanks for any suggestions or help.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <polska.research@gmail.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] waryszczak http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=&city=Mahanoy&state=PA&zipcode=&country=US&geodiff=1 Looks like there are two places name Mahanoy in Schuykill County. One is Mahanoy Plane, and the other is Mahanoy City. I had a cousin, who lived in the city. I never knew about Mahanoy Plane. Most of my Polish relatives lived in this coal mining area in places like Shamokin, Ranshaw/Renshaw, Scranton, Hazleton, Dickson City, Ashley, Wilkesbarre, Lee Park, Buttonwood, Mountain Top (renamed Joe Palooka Mountain), etc. covering Schuykill, Northampton, Lackawanna and Luzerne counties. Tina On Nov 25, 2007 11:23 AM, Roman <romanka@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Tina, > > More accurately, they all went to Mahanoy Plane, PA. I believe that > there was only one prior visit, 1905-06, to a place labeled Bookrum. > There does not seem to be such a location. However, less than 10 miles > from Mahanoy Plane (near Frackville) we can find a place called Buck Run. > > I don't see a Hrycko associated with Mikołaj Waryszczak. The name is > fairly clear and spelled Hawrylo. The two Hrycko teenagers might well > have traveled with Mikołaj, but I would not reach a conclusion that they > are all related. It is possible that the families knew each other and > had the youngsters make the trip with an "experienced" traveler. > > Cheers, > > Roman > > Poddaj się; to zadanie zostaje niemożliwym. > Give up - and the problem becomes impossible. > > [Set your Character Coding to Unicode (UTF-8).] > > > > Tina Ellis wrote: > > Sobko Hawrylo is what the name of the cousin looks like. Did you > > notice that the two people above him and two below were also from the > > same place. They were also all going to Mahanoy, Pennsylvania. It > > looks like to me that they were all related to each other. Note the > > name that starts with an H looks like Hrycko on the second page. The > > two people below him had parents with taht last name. It actually > > looks like he was in the US twice before 1907. 1905 was one of them. > > Can't make out the second one. I can't make out the city in PA. Need > > a magnifying glass to see this information. > > > > Have fun in your search. > > > > Tina > > > > On Nov 24, 2007 11:24 PM, <bobbysushi@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Looks like on the manifest he had been to that US before, 1905 - it > >> says where but i cant make it out. Starts with B. > >> > >> Also looks like the 'person visiting' is a cousin, but cant seem to > >> make much of that name either. > >> > >> This opens up a whole new door for me, assuming it all adds up. Which > >> on the face of it, seems a highly likely scenario, as Kulaszne wasnt a > >> highly populated place, and as my grandmother was born there, seems > >> rather good odds of being a match. > >> > >> Pity i dont understand/cant speak Polish, i would phone my newly found > >> relatives in Poland - I have so many questions about this particular > >> scenario, and others. > >> > >> Bobby. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Jake, Wr is the abbreviation of the bigger province, in this case Dolnoslaskie. The next two letters cover the name of the smaller districts. Below you also have the "capital" of the smaller districts and then I guess the population. Wr.. 02.. dolnoslaskie Wroclaw 2970094 WrBo 0201 boleslawiecki Boleslawiec 90141 WrDz 0202 dzierzoniowski Dzierzoniów 111369 WrGl 0203 glogowski Glogów 91937 WrGo 0204 górowski Góra 37903 WrJa 0205 jaworski Jawor 54460 WrJG 0206 jeleniogórski Jelenia Góra 67004 WrKG 0207 kamiennogórski Kamienna Góra 48758 WrKl 0208 klodzki Klodzko 179471 WrLe 0209 legnicki Legnica 54202 WrLa 0210 lubanski Luban 59555 WrLi 0211 lubinski Lubin 109999 WrLw 0212 lwówecki Lwówek Slaski 51175 WrMi 0213 milicki Milicz 37520 WrOl 0214 olesnicki Olesnica 105238 WrOl 0215 olawski Olawa 72550 WrPo 0216 polkowicki Polkowice 62637 WrSt 0217 strzelinski Strzelin 45991 WrSr 0218 sredzki Sroda 49480 WrSw 0219 swidnicki Swidnica 167637 WrTr 0220 trzebnicki Trzebnica 77035 WrWa 0221 walbrzyski Walbrzych 61890 WrWo 0222 wolowski Wolów 49741 WrWr 0223 wroclawski Wroclaw 95352 WrZa 0224 zabkowicki Zabkowice Slaskie 72616 WrZg 0225 zgorzelecki Zgorzelec 100067 WrZl 0226 zlotoryjski Zlotoryja 47301 WrJG 0261 m. Jelenia Góra Jelenia Góra 92394 WrmLe 0262 m. Legnica Legnica 108911 WrmWa 0263 m. Walbrzych Walbrzych 133713 WrmWr 0264 m. Wroclaw Wroclaw 634047 Hope this helps, Andre Jake Botchek wrote: > Hi Tina, Is there a listing (list) of what areas these abbreviations > cover? I acquired a list of these abbreviations about 3 pages long when > I entered BOTZKOWSKI in the GenPol web site. I know the M= male, and the > F=female. Are these towns in an area, or "Kreis" counties, or what? I'm > confused! Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Jacob Botchek > (Botzkowski) registered on (polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com). > > > > WrBo: M. 74, F. 60 > > WrDz: M. 34, F. 39 > > WrGł: M. 37, F. 36 > > WrGo: M. 10, F. 6 > > WrJa: M. 35, F. 39 > > WrJG: M. 38, F. 46 > > WrKG: M. 29, F. 31 > > WrKł: M. 92, F. 101 > > WrLe: M. 24, F. 26 > > WrLa: M. 33, F. 33 > > WrLi: M. 47, F. 48 > > WrLw: M. 18, F. 14 > > WrMi: M. 20, F. 23 > > WrOl: M. 122, F. 130 > > WrOł: M. 49, F. 54 > > WrPo: M. 21, F. 18 > > WrSt: M. 36, F. 43 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Tina. Thanks for the reply. Hope someday we can help one another. Dick --- Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: > What was her maiden name and her married name? > > Tina > > On Nov 25, 2007 1:16 PM, Barbara > <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > > Tina, > > After reading your information posted below, I > decided to respond by asking > > a few questions about the areas you listed. My > grandmother came to the US, > > Northampton in 1909. My cousin said the worked in > a cigar factory. Is > > there any way I can find information on where > these factories would have > > been and would there still be records? I have > never been able to find out > > where she lived at that time, although I have > records after 1911. > > Thanks for any suggestions or help.. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Hi. I'm looking for information on the Joseph Grudzinski family. My goal is to find any living relatives of Joseph to add them to my family tree. Joseph Grudzinski at the age of 18 (1903)left Rumunki Rokicie, Poland and went to New York ( Ellis Island), moved to the Pennsylvania area where He met and stayed for a while with a black man that could speak polish. He told Joe to leave this area or become a slave like Himself. He left with other men for Bay City, Mi. on a train. Later they went to the UP to work in the lumber era. After the lumber run out Joe come back to Bay City. He found work on the Rail Road. Joe could not read or write, or drive a car. Joe's two son's Bob and Danny could not read or write but can drive . Mary and Bernice can read and write but can't drive. Bought a piece of property on 25th st. and set up a small farm with chickens, pigs and cow's. Stanley's house set's where Joe's garden use to be. Joseph was born Feb 15 1883 in Rumunki, Rokicie, Poland. He died Jan 22 1967 in Bay City, MI. USA I have a shorthand copy of His birth certificate. Below is information found on the certificate: Rupublic of Poland Province Bydgoskie District Lipno Civil State Offical in Ligovo Number 23-1885 Joseph was born in Rumunki Rokicie from father Jan Grudzinski, farmer living at Rumunki, municipality of Ligowo, district Lipno and mother Tekla Grudzinski from Wisniewski living at Rumunki Rokicie. Joseph Grudzinski is my wife's Grandfather. My wife's name is Barbara Sermon (maiden name is Rosekrans). My name is Richard Sermon. Barb's parents are Bernice & Jesse Rosekrans. Bernice's father is Joseph Grudzinski. Any information that you could provide will be very much appreciated. Richard Sermon rtsermon@yahoo.com 3962 E. Smith Rd Bay City, MI 48706 USA ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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What was her maiden name and her married name? Tina On Nov 25, 2007 1:16 PM, Barbara <toomanycrafts@verizon.net> wrote: > Tina, > After reading your information posted below, I decided to respond by asking > a few questions about the areas you listed. My grandmother came to the US, > Northampton in 1909. My cousin said the worked in a cigar factory. Is > there any way I can find information on where these factories would have > been and would there still be records? I have never been able to find out > where she lived at that time, although I have records after 1911. > Thanks for any suggestions or help..

Balazs, You can use this website to find people who may be researching your surname: http://www.kuijsten.de/navigator/. You can search by country. Good luck to you. Tina Ellis On Oct 21, 2007 3:53 PM, Kákóczki Balázs <kzsalab@freemail.hu> wrote: > Hi everybody! > > I'm Balazs Kakoczki from Hungary. In principal my surname is Polish > so thought to write to this forum. I've started to make the family tree of > the Kakoczkis for one year. If somebody knows anybody who has this > family name in Poland or has any idea from where could this name > come, please contact me! > > Greetings, > > Balazs Kakoczki > > Felújított veteránok, használt négykerekűek, új járműcsodák! > _______________________________________________________ > http://cthandler.adverticum.net/?cturl=http%3A%2F%2Fjarmuapro.origo.hu%2Fauto%2Fszemelygepjarmu%2Findex%2C%2C48%2C1.html%3F%26afid%3D2%26fm_levelalja > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Tina, More accurately, they all went to Mahanoy Plane, PA. I believe that there was only one prior visit, 1905-06, to a place labeled Bookrum. There does not seem to be such a location. However, less than 10 miles from Mahanoy Plane (near Frackville) we can find a place called Buck Run. I don't see a Hrycko associated with Mikołaj Waryszczak. The name is fairly clear and spelled Hawrylo. The two Hrycko teenagers might well have traveled with Mikołaj, but I would not reach a conclusion that they are all related. It is possible that the families knew each other and had the youngsters make the trip with an "experienced" traveler. Cheers, Roman Poddaj się; to zadanie zostaje niemożliwym. Give up - and the problem becomes impossible. [Set your Character Coding to Unicode (UTF-8).] Tina Ellis wrote: > Sobko Hawrylo is what the name of the cousin looks like. Did you > notice that the two people above him and two below were also from the > same place. They were also all going to Mahanoy, Pennsylvania. It > looks like to me that they were all related to each other. Note the > name that starts with an H looks like Hrycko on the second page. The > two people below him had parents with taht last name. It actually > looks like he was in the US twice before 1907. 1905 was one of them. > Can't make out the second one. I can't make out the city in PA. Need > a magnifying glass to see this information. > > Have fun in your search. > > Tina > > On Nov 24, 2007 11:24 PM, <bobbysushi@gmail.com> wrote: >> Looks like on the manifest he had been to that US before, 1905 - it >> says where but i cant make it out. Starts with B. >> >> Also looks like the 'person visiting' is a cousin, but cant seem to >> make much of that name either. >> >> This opens up a whole new door for me, assuming it all adds up. Which >> on the face of it, seems a highly likely scenario, as Kulaszne wasnt a >> highly populated place, and as my grandmother was born there, seems >> rather good odds of being a match. >> >> Pity i dont understand/cant speak Polish, i would phone my newly found >> relatives in Poland - I have so many questions about this particular >> scenario, and others. >> >> Bobby. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

They are powiats ... counties, which exist in Poland today. They are on the CD mentioned in one of the other letters sent today on our mail list. On Nov 25, 2007 12:09 PM, Jake Botchek <k7vro@icehouse.net> wrote: > Hi Tina, Is there a listing (list) of what areas these abbreviations > cover? I acquired a list of these abbreviations about 3 pages long when > I entered BOTZKOWSKI in the GenPol web site. I know the M= male, and the > F=female. Are these towns in an area, or "Kreis" counties, or what? I'm > confused! Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Jacob Botchek > (Botzkowski) registered on (polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com). > > > > WrBo: M. 74, F. 60 > > WrDz: M. 34, F. 39 > > WrGł: M. 37, F. 36 > > WrGo: M. 10, F. 6 > > WrJa: M. 35, F. 39 > > WrJG: M. 38, F. 46 > > WrKG: M. 29, F. 31 > > WrKł: M. 92, F. 101 > > WrLe: M. 24, F. 26 > > WrLa: M. 33, F. 33 > > WrLi: M. 47, F. 48 > > WrLw: M. 18, F. 14 > > WrMi: M. 20, F. 23 > > WrOl: M. 122, F. 130 > > WrOł: M. 49, F. 54 > > WrPo: M. 21, F. 18 > > WrSt: M. 36, F. 43 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Tina, Is there a listing (list) of what areas these abbreviations cover? I acquired a list of these abbreviations about 3 pages long when I entered BOTZKOWSKI in the GenPol web site. I know the M= male, and the F=female. Are these towns in an area, or "Kreis" counties, or what? I'm confused! Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Jacob Botchek (Botzkowski) registered on (polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com). WrBo: M. 74, F. 60 WrDz: M. 34, F. 39 WrGł: M. 37, F. 36 WrGo: M. 10, F. 6 WrJa: M. 35, F. 39 WrJG: M. 38, F. 46 WrKG: M. 29, F. 31 WrKł: M. 92, F. 101 WrLe: M. 24, F. 26 WrLa: M. 33, F. 33 WrLi: M. 47, F. 48 WrLw: M. 18, F. 14 WrMi: M. 20, F. 23 WrOl: M. 122, F. 130 WrOł: M. 49, F. 54 WrPo: M. 21, F. 18 WrSt: M. 36, F. 43

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=&city=Mahanoy&state=PA&zipcode=&country=US&geodiff=1 Looks like there are two places name Mahanoy in Schuykill County. One is Mahanoy Plane, and the other is Mahanoy City. I had a cousin, who lived in the city. I never knew about Mahanoy Plane. Most of my Polish relatives lived in this coal mining area in places like Shamokin, Ranshaw/Renshaw, Scranton, Hazleton, Dickson City, Ashley, Wilkesbarre, Lee Park, Buttonwood, Mountain Top (renamed Joe Palooka Mountain), etc. covering Schuykill, Northampton, Lackawanna and Luzerne counties. Tina On Nov 25, 2007 11:23 AM, Roman <romanka@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Tina, > > More accurately, they all went to Mahanoy Plane, PA. I believe that > there was only one prior visit, 1905-06, to a place labeled Bookrum. > There does not seem to be such a location. However, less than 10 miles > from Mahanoy Plane (near Frackville) we can find a place called Buck Run. > > I don't see a Hrycko associated with Mikołaj Waryszczak. The name is > fairly clear and spelled Hawrylo. The two Hrycko teenagers might well > have traveled with Mikołaj, but I would not reach a conclusion that they > are all related. It is possible that the families knew each other and > had the youngsters make the trip with an "experienced" traveler. > > Cheers, > > Roman > > Poddaj się; to zadanie zostaje niemożliwym. > Give up - and the problem becomes impossible. > > [Set your Character Coding to Unicode (UTF-8).] > > > > Tina Ellis wrote: > > Sobko Hawrylo is what the name of the cousin looks like. Did you > > notice that the two people above him and two below were also from the > > same place. They were also all going to Mahanoy, Pennsylvania. It > > looks like to me that they were all related to each other. Note the > > name that starts with an H looks like Hrycko on the second page. The > > two people below him had parents with taht last name. It actually > > looks like he was in the US twice before 1907. 1905 was one of them. > > Can't make out the second one. I can't make out the city in PA. Need > > a magnifying glass to see this information. > > > > Have fun in your search. > > > > Tina > > > > On Nov 24, 2007 11:24 PM, <bobbysushi@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Looks like on the manifest he had been to that US before, 1905 - it > >> says where but i cant make it out. Starts with B. > >> > >> Also looks like the 'person visiting' is a cousin, but cant seem to > >> make much of that name either. > >> > >> This opens up a whole new door for me, assuming it all adds up. Which > >> on the face of it, seems a highly likely scenario, as Kulaszne wasnt a > >> highly populated place, and as my grandmother was born there, seems > >> rather good odds of being a match. > >> > >> Pity i dont understand/cant speak Polish, i would phone my newly found > >> relatives in Poland - I have so many questions about this particular > >> scenario, and others. > >> > >> Bobby. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Tina- Thank you so much for your suggestion and weblink for the Canadian directory. Today, I have printed all addresses and will send a covering letter explaining my research. From the 89 people shown, I have narrowed it down to 62. It's going to cost me a lot of dollars, however, "what price does one put on finding a long-lost relative"? Thanks again. I will keep you informed if anything surfaces. Olga Baker, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <polandbordersurnames-request@rootsweb.com> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:59 AM Subject: POLANDBORDERSURNAMES Digest, Vol 2, Issue 567 > > > When replying to a letter, which is in the digest, please delete the other > letters out of your message. Please, also, change the subject, so the > person to whom you are replying understands that your reply is for > him/her. > > > > > Olga, > > This is an online Canadian telephone directory: > http://findaperson.canada411.ca/ > > There are 89 people listed with the Panasiuk surname in Canada. > > As far as your statement of being of Polish extraction, you need to > remember that there were many more wars than just WW I and WWII in > Europe. Poland's borders changed many times. Polish people began > occupying the conquered areas. If a Polish person gave birth to a > child in Ukraine, they were of Ukrainian nationality but of Polish > etnicity. > > Tina Ellis > >

In case people don't know yet: If you go to http://www.genpol.com/Mapa+main.html you can actually display the herby data. Just copy and paste what herby gives you (e.g. for the name Waryszczak: Wa:1, Ko:5, Lu:3) into the big white form and then click on Pokaz mape on the bottom. Of course the data of 1998 is kind of crude. The 2002 data is a little finer (districts are sub-divded into the smaller districts and a distinction is made between male and female holders of a last name) and can also be entered in the above page. For example, the district of lubelskie is abbreviated LU on herby. In the 2002 data you would see it sub-divided into: Lu ... lubelskie LuBP ... bialski LuBg ... biłgorajski LuCh ... chełmski LuHr ... hrubieszowski and so on. You can't identify individual places, only those somewhat finer districts. The 2002 data is only available on CD and to my knowledge is not online. I have the CD, so if anyone wants me to check a name for you please email me off-list. Andre

Have you checked the Catholic church in Dunkirk. They should have a registry of all church members. It should tell you where they were from in the old country. If Mary, Frank or John married in the Dunkirk church, that "church" marriage record should state where they were born. You have records that you need to find on 5 people ... all possible records on those born in Poland. In the 1930 census, Mary Bankoskie (widow) is living with her son in law Stanley Velk and daughter Sophia Velk in Dunkirk. Mary stated she arrived in the US in 1882. She was also a naturalized citizen. Have you found this documention. Tina Ellis On Oct 27, 2007 11:21 AM, Cathy Bankoske <cbankoske@gmail.com> wrote: > Thomas Bankoske b.1849 (Bankowski, Bunczkowski, Binkowski, etc.) and his wife Mary Jaguszewski immigrated from "German Poland" (on some documents called Poland or Germany) around 1884. They settled in Dunkirk New York to work in the Brooks locomotive plant. Do not know where they came from or what port they entered. They had three children when they came to the U.S. ( Frank, John and Mary) and then had three more (William, Lucy and Sophia). They were Catholic. > >From some people that know the area of Dunkirk - I understand that most of the Poles coming over at this time period came from Krakow and Padow areas. I have been unable to find a town named on any documents. Any ideas? > > Cathy Bankoske > cbankoske@gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Normally you can find them in the state archives, the church or diocese. The Roman Catholic and Gree Catholic parishes for Kulaszne were in Bukowsko. This has a little bit of history and statistical data on Kulaszne. It is from the Kingdom of Poland gazetteer. http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_IV/858. Maybe someone on the list can translate it for you. I can only read bits and pieces of it. My reading ability is very limited. I can find records pretty well because I have worked at finding them and reading them. The LDS have filmed a lot of records in Poland. You can see if they have microfilmed this area at their site: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. You can find an LDS Family History Center near you at this site: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp. They will order film for you from Salt Lake City at a nominal charge. You can view them at their facility and copy anything you want. This is the site for the Poland archives. The state archives are spread out all over the country by region: http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en. The "Information" link gives you definitions in English. If you find anything that interests you and you decide to write to them for records, click on the word "more" at the and of the line where you find the data. That will give you contact information. You can write to them in English. Replies will be in Polish. This site will give you address for existing churches: http://www.genpol.com/Katalog_Zasobow_Metrykalnych.html. The provinces are the ones, which existed before 1999. There were 49. Now there are 16. Here's a site with a list of Polish words found in genealogical research: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/rg/guide/WLPolish18.asp. This site will help you understand some translations: http://www.poltran.com. You can copy and paste a large quantity of words into the program online. It's not perfect, but it helps you get the gist of what is being said. Polish has an alphabet consisting of 32 letters. They do not use the letters Q, V or X. This will keep you busy for a while. Have fun. On Nov 25, 2007 8:31 AM, Bobby <bobbysushi@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, i have to ask. > > Kulaszne, and with it belonging to Austria (when my G-G grandfather > was born there) and Poland (current)- whom holds the birth > certificate? > > Both poland and Austria perhaps? > > 1867 approx was the birth year. > > Mikolaj WARYSZCZAK. > > Bobby (Aussie) > South Africa. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sobko Hawrylo is what the name of the cousin looks like. Did you notice that the two people above him and two below were also from the same place. They were also all going to Mahanoy, Pennsylvania. It looks like to me that they were all related to each other. Note the name that starts with an H looks like Hrycko on the second page. The two people below him had parents with taht last name. It actually looks like he was in the US twice before 1907. 1905 was one of them. Can't make out the second one. I can't make out the city in PA. Need a magnifying glass to see this information. Have fun in your search. Tina On Nov 24, 2007 11:24 PM, <bobbysushi@gmail.com> wrote: > Looks like on the manifest he had been to that US before, 1905 - it > says where but i cant make it out. Starts with B. > > Also looks like the 'person visiting' is a cousin, but cant seem to > make much of that name either. > > This opens up a whole new door for me, assuming it all adds up. Which > on the face of it, seems a highly likely scenario, as Kulaszne wasnt a > highly populated place, and as my grandmother was born there, seems > rather good odds of being a match. > > Pity i dont understand/cant speak Polish, i would phone my newly found > relatives in Poland - I have so many questions about this particular > scenario, and others. > > Bobby. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Looks like on the manifest he had been to that US before, 1905 - it says where but i cant make it out. Starts with B. Also looks like the 'person visiting' is a cousin, but cant seem to make much of that name either. This opens up a whole new door for me, assuming it all adds up. Which on the face of it, seems a highly likely scenario, as Kulaszne wasnt a highly populated place, and as my grandmother was born there, seems rather good odds of being a match. Pity i dont understand/cant speak Polish, i would phone my newly found relatives in Poland - I have so many questions about this particular scenario, and others. Bobby.

Oh my goodness. My grandmother is from Kulaszne - KUPER. I never thought i'd have ancestry in the US, assuming this all fits together of course..... Thanks Tina.....

I've had a closer look at the hand written letter that i recieved, and it does look like it could be either Mikdaj, or Mikolaj. So then i think i will search for Mikolaj Waryszczak, as most people have suggested. All my searching for this name will be in polish, as it seems my history remains in Poland, this particular person was possibly born around 1870/1880. When i did a search on http://www.herby.com.pl/herby/indexslo.html , it came up with only 9 finds'. Which is a good thing, not so many.... Thanks for everyones' help here... Bobby.