I located my grandmother's brothers and sisters through any letter I wrote to the family many years ago. I had someone translate the letter and so that is how I knew their names. I trace them through their arrival to Ellis island and finally to my grandmother house in New Providence or summit New Jersey. I found quite out of the ordinary. They did mention a few towns, however, I have not been able to locate them. They mentioned towns such as Jastrbniec and Zarnowa. But I will try and locate her death certificates. Will write more tomorrow as I am very tired. Thanks again Carol ----- Original Message ----- if From: "the cohens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Born? > Tina, could these family members be listed at the JRI for Poland even > though they are Catholic? Would it be worth having Carol check there? > > Carol, > > Do you know if your grandmother's whole family came together? How do > you know the names of her siblings and that they went elsewhere? I am > thinking that you should get the death certificates for your > grandparents to see if their birth towns are listed on them. > > If your grandmother's death certificate does not say her birthplace, > other certificates to consider would be those of her siblings, if you > know when and where they passed away. It is not clear from what you > wrote how much you know about them. > > Another place to check is birth certificates of her children, which > sometimes say the town and not just the country where the child was > born. Of course, all these certificates can get quite expensive if > they are not online at the LDS site or elsewhere for free. > > You also could try checking the World Connect and other family tree > sites to see if descendants of your grandmother's siblings have posted > the family tree somewhere. World Connect's URL is: > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > I also hope you or we can find the 1900 census for your grandmother, > you didn't list it as one you have, and it might have a good surprise > in it for you, you never know. I think the 1900 census was June, so > they would have already been married then. > > That 8317 needs a more specific context, what URL or form did you see > it on? Maybe copy and paste it into an email, the sentence it was > in, if it was on a webpage. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "the cohens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Born? > Tina, could these family members be listed at the JRI for Poland even > though they are Catholic? Would it be worth having Carol check there? > > Carol, > > Do you know if your grandmother's whole family came together? How do > you know the names of her siblings and that they went elsewhere? I am > thinking that you should get the death certificates for your > grandparents to see if their birth towns are listed on them. > > If your grandmother's death certificate does not say her birthplace, > other certificates to consider would be those of her siblings, if you > know when and where they passed away. It is not clear from what you > wrote how much you know about them. > > Another place to check is birth certificates of her children, which > sometimes say the town and not just the country where the child was > born. Of course, all these certificates can get quite expensive if > they are not online at the LDS site or elsewhere for free. > > You also could try checking the World Connect and other family tree > sites to see if descendants of your grandmother's siblings have posted > the family tree somewhere. World Connect's URL is: > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > I also hope you or we can find the 1900 census for your grandmother, > you didn't list it as one you have, and it might have a good surprise > in it for you, you never know. I think the 1900 census was June, so > they would have already been married then. > > That 8317 needs a more specific context, what URL or form did you see > it on? Maybe copy and paste it into an email, the sentence it was > in, if it was on a webpage. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

FLORENTYNA CHMIELEWSKI BORN APPROX 1886 VINCENT FRANK BACZEK (CHANGED TO BONCZEK) UPON ARRIVAL TO EI Born Approximately 1876 SAW 8317 IN INSTRUCTIONS to list on where we have searched I was told my grandfather spoke six languages-English, Polish, Russian, German, Czech and Yiddish. Hope this helps Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "the cohens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Born? > Can you tell us about when they were born (and repeat their names so > we don't have to scroll backwards)? That can help searching. > > Also, precisely where did you see the 8317? Intepretation of that > number needs a context. > > On 12/29/08, carolt71 <[email protected]> wrote: >>...Could someone please explain what >> an 8317 is? ... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tina, could these family members be listed at the JRI for Poland even though they are Catholic? Would it be worth having Carol check there? Carol, Do you know if your grandmother's whole family came together? How do you know the names of her siblings and that they went elsewhere? I am thinking that you should get the death certificates for your grandparents to see if their birth towns are listed on them. If your grandmother's death certificate does not say her birthplace, other certificates to consider would be those of her siblings, if you know when and where they passed away. It is not clear from what you wrote how much you know about them. Another place to check is birth certificates of her children, which sometimes say the town and not just the country where the child was born. Of course, all these certificates can get quite expensive if they are not online at the LDS site or elsewhere for free. You also could try checking the World Connect and other family tree sites to see if descendants of your grandmother's siblings have posted the family tree somewhere. World Connect's URL is: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com I also hope you or we can find the 1900 census for your grandmother, you didn't list it as one you have, and it might have a good surprise in it for you, you never know. I think the 1900 census was June, so they would have already been married then. That 8317 needs a more specific context, what URL or form did you see it on? Maybe copy and paste it into an email, the sentence it was in, if it was on a webpage.

His name was changed to Bonczek when he came to this country. I am sure this is the case because it was written on my mother's baptismal record by the priest. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Born? > Was your grandmother's maiden name Chmielewski, or was that your > grandfather's surname? > > When did you write to the Plock diocese? > > What was their reply to you? > > If you will please answer these questions, maybe some of us can try to > find > come more information to help you. > > Tina Ellis > > > On 12/29/08, carolt71 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi! I am A newbie to this list and appreciate any suggestions so that I >> can locate the town or village my grandmother is from. First, her name >> is >> Florentyna chmielewski. Let me say that I type with a word recognition >> system due to my disability and try not to make a lot of mistakes. My >> grandmother came to Ellis island in May of 1899 from Breman, Germany On >> the >> lahn. My grandfather also arrived via Breman Germany about three days >> before my grandmother. They were married February 1900 in st Stanislaus >> church in Newark New Jersey. I have searched ancestry.com and have >> located them in the 1910, 1920?, And 1930 census. I am positive that >> 1910 >> is the correct, however, the 1920 is dubious, and my grandmother was a >> widow >> in the 1930s census. The town she gives is Plock. So, I have tried >> Ellis >> island, marriage license, and have written to the Plock dioceses. She >> was >> catholic and siblings I have confirmed are Clement ,Faustyn,Jan, and >> kswerka. She lived in New Providenc! >> e, New Jersey. Her siblings elsewhere. Could someone please explain >> what >> an 8317 is? Any suggestions to help locate her, birth town would be >> welcome. I have her mother listed as Eleanor chmielewski and her father >> as >> matthew. Her mother's maiden name was Miloszewski. I cannot seem to >> locate >> information for your parents. Nor have I been able to locate information >> on >> her brothers and sisters. Thank you in advance for any help anyone is >> able >> to give. >> Carol Tamara >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My grandmother's maiden name was Chmielewski. My grandfather's name was Vincent Frank Baczek and he listed Chorzele where he was from. I wrote to the diocese about two years ago. They said they had no record of my grandmother. I hope this information helps you help me to locate the town in which my grandmother came from. Thanking you in advance. Carol Tamara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Born? > Was your grandmother's maiden name Chmielewski, or was that your > grandfather's surname? > > When did you write to the Plock diocese? > > What was their reply to you? > > If you will please answer these questions, maybe some of us can try to > find > come more information to help you. > > Tina Ellis > > > On 12/29/08, carolt71 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi! I am A newbie to this list and appreciate any suggestions so that I >> can locate the town or village my grandmother is from. First, her name >> is >> Florentyna chmielewski. Let me say that I type with a word recognition >> system due to my disability and try not to make a lot of mistakes. My >> grandmother came to Ellis island in May of 1899 from Breman, Germany On >> the >> lahn. My grandfather also arrived via Breman Germany about three days >> before my grandmother. They were married February 1900 in st Stanislaus >> church in Newark New Jersey. I have searched ancestry.com and have >> located them in the 1910, 1920?, And 1930 census. I am positive that >> 1910 >> is the correct, however, the 1920 is dubious, and my grandmother was a >> widow >> in the 1930s census. The town she gives is Plock. So, I have tried >> Ellis >> island, marriage license, and have written to the Plock dioceses. She >> was >> catholic and siblings I have confirmed are Clement ,Faustyn,Jan, and >> kswerka. She lived in New Providenc! >> e, New Jersey. Her siblings elsewhere. Could someone please explain >> what >> an 8317 is? Any suggestions to help locate her, birth town would be >> welcome. I have her mother listed as Eleanor chmielewski and her father >> as >> matthew. Her mother's maiden name was Miloszewski. I cannot seem to >> locate >> information for your parents. Nor have I been able to locate information >> on >> her brothers and sisters. Thank you in advance for any help anyone is >> able >> to give. >> Carol Tamara >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It's actually www.moikrewni.pl Maciej Hobart Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of T Hoitt Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2008 1:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PBS] replacement for site www.moicrewni.pl ________________________________ From: T Hoitt <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:12:52 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] website Tina, The website is www.moicrewni.pl/ Teresa ________________________________ From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:13:59 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] website What is their URL? On 12/29/08, T Hoitt <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > Has anyone used the Dynastree website? It gives you the geographical area > of the surname on this website. > It offers a free family tree and I was wondering how good the offer is. > > Thanks > Teresa > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 29/12/2008 10:48 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 29/12/2008 10:48 AM

Can you tell us about when they were born (and repeat their names so we don't have to scroll backwards)? That can help searching. Also, precisely where did you see the 8317? Intepretation of that number needs a context. On 12/29/08, carolt71 <[email protected]> wrote: >...Could someone please explain what > an 8317 is? ...

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Was your grandmother's maiden name Chmielewski, or was that your grandfather's surname? When did you write to the Plock diocese? What was their reply to you? If you will please answer these questions, maybe some of us can try to find come more information to help you. Tina Ellis On 12/29/08, carolt71 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi! I am A newbie to this list and appreciate any suggestions so that I > can locate the town or village my grandmother is from. First, her name is > Florentyna chmielewski. Let me say that I type with a word recognition > system due to my disability and try not to make a lot of mistakes. My > grandmother came to Ellis island in May of 1899 from Breman, Germany On the > lahn. My grandfather also arrived via Breman Germany about three days > before my grandmother. They were married February 1900 in st Stanislaus > church in Newark New Jersey. I have searched ancestry.com and have > located them in the 1910, 1920?, And 1930 census. I am positive that 1910 > is the correct, however, the 1920 is dubious, and my grandmother was a widow > in the 1930s census. The town she gives is Plock. So, I have tried Ellis > island, marriage license, and have written to the Plock dioceses. She was > catholic and siblings I have confirmed are Clement ,Faustyn,Jan, and > kswerka. She lived in New Providenc! > e, New Jersey. Her siblings elsewhere. Could someone please explain what > an 8317 is? Any suggestions to help locate her, birth town would be > welcome. I have her mother listed as Eleanor chmielewski and her father as > matthew. Her mother's maiden name was Miloszewski. I cannot seem to locate > information for your parents. Nor have I been able to locate information on > her brothers and sisters. Thank you in advance for any help anyone is able > to give. > Carol Tamara > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

this link should be: www.moikrewni.pl ! T Hoitt wrote: > www.moicrewni.pl > > > > > ________________________________ > From: T Hoitt <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:12:52 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS] website > > > Tina, > The website is www.moicrewni.pl/ > > Teresa > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:13:59 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS] website > > What is their URL? > > On 12/29/08, T Hoitt <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> Has anyone used the Dynastree website? It gives you the geographical area >> of the surname on this website. >> It offers a free family tree and I was wondering how good the offer is. >> >> Thanks >> Teresa >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi! I am A newbie to this list and appreciate any suggestions so that I can locate the town or village my grandmother is from. First, her name is Florentyna chmielewski. Let me say that I type with a word recognition system due to my disability and try not to make a lot of mistakes. My grandmother came to Ellis island in May of 1899 from Breman, Germany On the lahn. My grandfather also arrived via Breman Germany about three days before my grandmother. They were married February 1900 in st Stanislaus church in Newark New Jersey. I have searched ancestry.com and have located them in the 1910, 1920?, And 1930 census. I am positive that 1910 is the correct, however, the 1920 is dubious, and my grandmother was a widow in the 1930s census. The town she gives is Plock. So, I have tried Ellis island, marriage license, and have written to the Plock dioceses. She was catholic and siblings I have confirmed are Clement ,Faustyn,Jan, and kswerka. She lived in New Providence, New Jersey. Her siblings elsewhere. Could someone please explain what an 8317 is? Any suggestions to help locate her, birth town would be welcome. I have her mother listed as Eleanor chmielewski and her father as matthew. Her mother's maiden name was Miloszewski. I cannot seem to locate information for your parents. Nor have I been able to locate information on her brothers and sisters. Thank you in advance for any help anyone is able to give. Carol Tamara

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You are correct. Thank you Teresa ________________________________ From: Andre Switala <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:27:33 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] replacement for site this link should be: www.moikrewni.pl ! T Hoitt wrote: > www.moicrewni.pl > > > > > ________________________________ > From: T Hoitt <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:12:52 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS] website > > > Tina, > The website is www.moicrewni.pl/ > > Teresa > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:13:59 PM > Subject: Re: [PBS] website > > What is their URL? > > On 12/29/08, T Hoitt <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> Has anyone used the Dynastree website? It gives you the geographical area >> of the surname on this website. >> It offers a free family tree and I was wondering how good the offer is. >> >> Thanks >> Teresa >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >      >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The http://www.dynastree.com url worked, not the one with "pl" at the end. But I am not impressed when I clicked "English" and it fed me what I guess was a German page again. I am using http://tribalpages.com for a free user friendly family tree site, but it is not perfect either. Just a lot easier to post at and prettier than http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com, which is also free. On 12/29/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.dynastree.com

www.moicrewni.pl ________________________________ From: T Hoitt <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:12:52 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] website Tina, The website is www.moicrewni.pl/ Teresa ________________________________ From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:13:59 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] website What is their URL? On 12/29/08, T Hoitt <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > Has anyone used the Dynastree website? It gives you the geographical area > of the surname on this website. > It offers a free family tree and I was wondering how good the offer is. > > Thanks > Teresa > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tina, The website is www.moicrewni.pl/ Teresa ________________________________ From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:13:59 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] website What is their URL? On 12/29/08, T Hoitt <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > Has anyone used the Dynastree website? It gives you the geographical area > of the surname on this website. > It offers a free family tree and I was wondering how good the offer is. > > Thanks > Teresa > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is their URL? On 12/29/08, T Hoitt <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > Has anyone used the Dynastree website? It gives you the geographical area > of the surname on this website. > It offers a free family tree and I was wondering how good the offer is. > > Thanks > Teresa > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry ... That did not come out right. I meant to ask you if you told them you were only wanting to know who has sent you the letter that the US Post Office returned? Did you explain to them it had gone to an incorrect address? On 12/29/08, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: > > Did you tell them you wanted them to let you know who has mailed your > letter? Did you actually register a complaint? > > On 12/29/08, Bobby <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I recieved a reply from the Polish Post office. I used google >> translate but not really understanding what i need to do next, if >> anything. Hoping someone can please clarify for me. I did send my >> initial email in english - so i'm hoping someone understood what i >> said. >> >> Here is there reply: >> Biuro Kontroli Dyrekcji Generalnej Poczty Polskiej przesyła według >> właściwości do Centrum Poczty w Warszawie skargę otrzymaną od Pana >> Bobby XXXXXXX, w celu wyjaśnienia sprawy i udzielenia Skarżącemu >> odpowiedzi. >> >> Google translate: >> Audit Bureau of the Directorate General of the Polish Post forward >> by >> the property to the Post Center in Warsaw received a complaint from Mr >> Bobby XXXXXX, in order to clarify the matter and the applicant >> replies. >> >> Thanks, >> Bobby. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Did you tell them you wanted them to let you know who has mailed your letter? Did you actually register a complaint? On 12/29/08, Bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > I recieved a reply from the Polish Post office. I used google > translate but not really understanding what i need to do next, if > anything. Hoping someone can please clarify for me. I did send my > initial email in english - so i'm hoping someone understood what i > said. > > Here is there reply: > Biuro Kontroli Dyrekcji Generalnej Poczty Polskiej przesyła według > właściwości do Centrum Poczty w Warszawie skargę otrzymaną od Pana > Bobby XXXXXXX, w celu wyjaśnienia sprawy i udzielenia Skarżącemu > odpowiedzi. > > Google translate: > Audit Bureau of the Directorate General of the Polish Post forward > by > the property to the Post Center in Warsaw received a complaint from Mr > Bobby XXXXXX, in order to clarify the matter and the applicant > replies. > > Thanks, > Bobby. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >