I went to NARA in NY and looked at the microfilms of the ships. I was determined to find her. This grandmother is still very elusive. I can't find her birth record. I found the records of her siblings and I am beginning to think that she just dropped out of a sky one day. -----Original Message----- From: jakki szymanowski <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:29 pm Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com i- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my randmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a roject of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of hips. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had rrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she ould have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname orribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the otterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did he ship manifest could have misspelt the name. Concerning the difference=2 0in the marriage year. I have found several instances f wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was ith the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it as discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the kty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to he year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ncestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two hildren during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry ecord and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded ate. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 02009 12:05 am Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found hem here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry for > verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my ncestors ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and > ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We know20 pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed hey did, then those records are lost. ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years fter the date we originally had. Joseph -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com o: [email protected] a te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, ple ase send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my grandmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a project of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of ships. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had arrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she could have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname horribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the Rotterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did the ship manifest could have misspelt the name. Concerning the difference in the marriage year. I have found several instances of wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was with the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it was discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the Akty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to the year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ancestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two children during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry record and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded date. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 02009 12:05 am Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry.  At the Clayton enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found them here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry.  But I checked Ancestry for verything else and did not find anything.  That is why I know that my ancestors ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL  he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there.  We know pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not ound anything yet.  If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed hey did, then those records are lost. ne neat thing happened last July.  I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s eif line.  August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years fter the date we originally had. Joseph -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com o: [email protected] a te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

The index cards provide the information needed to request the naturalization records from the proper venue. For example, if a request for papers is sent to the Great Lakes NARA, the information on the index card is forwarded with information about which court (usually Cook County) to contact for copies of the naturalization papers; without the number, Cook County was hard pressed to find any information. Cook County, IL, now has naturalization records and information on obtaining papers; the good news is that the site is free to use. Finding the actual location of the index cards is really the information that is needed. District NARA offices are the best source, outside of local courthouses. http://198.173.15.34/NR/default.aspx Mary the cohens wrote: > I do not think it will ever be complete. I think that the index > appears to only have federal and not local court information. at > least not for N California from what i could see and read about it. > > the one image i happened to save has a very fuzzy printing at the > bottom that may say US something-or-other. and it had no age or > location, just a name, date of petition, and ID number, that's it. > not a relative, but a surname of interest to me so I saved it just in > case. > > i think my ancestors are not in it as they went to local courts rather > than make the trip to the federal courthouse. and i am suspicious > that many of even the federal records may have been destroyed in the > 1906 SF earthquake fire. > > On 1/20/09, Cynthia <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ... At least if you can find your ancestor in the index, you can >> then get the right court to send your request to. Too many ancestors >> applied in one place and ended up naturalized in another place or state >> entirely. So it's getting easier to track some moves at least. .. >>

Hi- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my grandmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a project of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of ships. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had arrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she could have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname horribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the Rotterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did the ship manifest could have misspelt the name. > > Concerning the difference in the marriage year. I have found several instances of wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was with the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it was discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the Akty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to the year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ancestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two children during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry record and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded date. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 > 02009 12:05 am > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > > > I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton > enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found them > here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry for > verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my ancestors > ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL > > he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and > ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We know > pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not > ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed > hey did, then those records are lost. > > ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec > ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s > eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna > apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. > > hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years > fter the date we originally had. > Joseph > > -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> > ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > o: [email protected] > a > te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM > You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my grandmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a project of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of ships. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had arrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she could have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname horribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the Rotterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did the ship manifest could have misspelt the name. > > Concerning the difference in the marriage year. I have found several instances of wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was with the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it was discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the Akty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to the year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ancestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two children during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry record and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded date. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 > 02009 12:05 am > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > > > I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton > enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found them > here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry for > verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my ancestors > ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL > > he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and > ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We know > pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not > ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed > hey did, then those records are lost. > > ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec > ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s > eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna > apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. > > hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years > fter the date we originally had. > Joseph > > -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> > ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > o: [email protected] > a > te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM > You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do not think it will ever be complete. I think that the index appears to only have federal and not local court information. at least not for N California from what i could see and read about it. the one image i happened to save has a very fuzzy printing at the bottom that may say US something-or-other. and it had no age or location, just a name, date of petition, and ID number, that's it. not a relative, but a surname of interest to me so I saved it just in case. i think my ancestors are not in it as they went to local courts rather than make the trip to the federal courthouse. and i am suspicious that many of even the federal records may have been destroyed in the 1906 SF earthquake fire. On 1/20/09, Cynthia <[email protected]> wrote: >... At least if you can find your ancestor in the index, you can > then get the right court to send your request to. Too many ancestors > applied in one place and ended up naturalized in another place or state > entirely. So it's getting easier to track some moves at least. ...

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Hello to all interested in the Harvest of Despair. As I wrote, I will accept $20-$25 which includes postage and handling. Other sites sell it for much more. You can view a small utube version but it is still blurred. The quality of some of these films is poor or contains too many pixels for a good viewing. And there are other films on the same topic of Stalin's industrial surge and forces famine of the Ukrainians. But this all statred after 1918 and built into 1928. You view online and you choose I have only one original and I'm willing to copy a few DVDs for a few. people. Just email me privately for further instructions. One of which is that I would like to receive a signed note that states: "I will not use this film for anything but education and family use." [Example Ancestry work] peekaboobrat at yahoo dot com

Ancestry's explanation: http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=8233 Mary Linda Boris wrote: > Can anyone tell me the significance of notations with dates on the line on a Passenger Manifest? For instance, my great-grandmother Maryanna Fortuna (ancestry transcribed as "Aary Forsona) on the SS President Lincoln arriving in NY 6 Mar 1910. On her line, is notated "3-209785- 1/6/41". > > I know that when people apply for citizenship, their passenger list is checked to verify their arrival inforamtion. This makes me think this notation refers to the date and case number, perhaps, of an application for citizenship. If this is the case, it is somewhat confusing since I know for a fact that her husband never applied for citizenship and I didn't think women could apply in their own right at that time. > >

In 1941, the Smith Act required all aliens to be registered. "It also required all non-citizen adult residents to register with the government; within four months, 4,741,971 aliens had registered under the Act's provisions." It could be that records were checked at that time or that someone in the family applied for naturalization. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=1941+alien+registration&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= Mary Mary Linda Boris wrote: > Can anyone tell me the significance of notations with dates on the line on a Passenger Manifest? For instance, my great-grandmother Maryanna Fortuna (ancestry transcribed as "Aary Forsona) on the SS President Lincoln arriving in NY 6 Mar 1910. On her line, is notated "3-209785- 1/6/41". > > I know that when people apply for citizenship, their passenger list is checked to verify their arrival inforamtion. This makes me think this notation refers to the date and case number, perhaps, of an application for citizenship. If this is the case, it is somewhat confusing since I know for a fact that her husband never applied for citizenship and I didn't think women could apply in their own right at that time. >

Explanations: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Manifests/occ/ A Guide to Interpreting Passenger List Annotations http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Manifests/ Mary Linda Boris wrote: > Can anyone tell me the significance of notations with dates on the line on a Passenger Manifest? For instance, my great-grandmother Maryanna Fortuna (ancestry transcribed as "Aary Forsona) on the SS President Lincoln arriving in NY 6 Mar 1910. On her line, is notated "3-209785- 1/6/41". > > I know that when people apply for citizenship, their passenger list is checked to verify their arrival inforamtion. This makes me think this notation refers to the date and case number, perhaps, of an application for citizenship. If this is the case, it is somewhat confusing since I know for a fact that her husband never applied for citizenship and I didn't think women could apply in their own right at that time. >

I would greatly appreciate a copy of "Harvest of Despair." My husband is 1/2 Polish. His grandmother was born in Turynka, Zhovkva, Lviv, Ukraine, and his grandfather was born in Budy, Wyszkow, Warszawa, Poland. This DVD will be of great benefit to us so thanks for your kind offer of a DVD. If you email me privately I can give you my mailing info and any other personal info you may require. Carolyn Swiss, [email protected] ---- peekaboobrat <[email protected]> wrote: ============= The film is available online, however, I have a good quality original VHS. The poor quality of the film on utube, or by googling, is obviously poor, at first glance. The "Harvest of Despair" has "Rights Reserved" on the case itself. How can they publicly show the film? It is clearly "Harvest of Despair" and not just a poor copy of the famine in 1932-1933 in Ukraine because of Stalin. I am willing to copy my original to DVD for family history or ancestry work. It is purely educational and not to be distributed freely. It is not showing large blurred pixels but clear. Please contact me privately if you wish a copy. peekaboobrat at yahoo dot com Joan Wielgus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

See: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Manifests/occ/ On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Linda Boris <[email protected]> wrote: > Can anyone tell me the significance of notations with dates on the line on a Passenger Manifest? For instance, my great-grandmother Maryanna Fortuna (ancestry transcribed as "Aary Forsona) on the SS President Lincoln arriving in NY 6 Mar 1910. On her line, is notated "3-209785- 1/6/41". > > I know that when people apply for citizenship, their passenger list is checked to verify their arrival inforamtion. This makes me think this notation refers to the date and case number, perhaps, of an application for citizenship. If this is the case, it is somewhat confusing since I know for a fact that her husband never applied for citizenship and I didn't think women could apply in their own right at that time. > > Thanks for any insight! > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I noticed that Ancestry had Central PA in their data, whereas Footnote has Eastern and Western PA naturalization records. PA is the only state where I was able find family. I had them settled in the Pittsburgh area and Wilkes-Barre/Scranton. I found none in NJ, MI and CT to help me. It is good that they will be posting all of them. This way we will find their Declarations of Intentions and the rest of the documents if they went through the full process. Sometimes they did not. I have seen mentioned on this mail list that they could not get employment unless they had at least filed the Declaration to show intent to stay. Employers did not want to hire people, who were not willing to stay. Why train them to see them return to the old country and have to retrain the newly hired person to replace them. Also I recall someone telling us that the immigrants were handed the Declaration upon entry at the Port to complete with instructions to file it at the courthouse located at their destination. If this is so, many were completed even if they did not go through the entire process or went back to Poland. Tina On 1/20/09, Cynthia <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ancestry.com only has papers for primarily the east coast naturalizations. > I > believe they got most of these from footnote also as they seem to be the > same as what is available there. However, They have index cards for > several > other states. At least if you can find your ancestor in the index, you can > then get the right court to send your request to. Too many ancestors > applied in one place and ended up naturalized in another place or state > entirely. So it's getting easier to track some moves at least. Census > records only show every ten years so ancestors could have moved a lot in > those years. The index makes it a bit easier to track them. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone tell me the significance of notations with dates on the line on  a Passenger Manifest?  For instance, my great-grandmother Maryanna Fortuna (ancestry transcribed as "Aary Forsona) on the SS President Lincoln arriving in NY 6 Mar 1910.  On her line, is notated "3-209785- 1/6/41".    I know that when people apply for citizenship, their passenger list is checked to verify their arrival inforamtion.  This makes me think this notation refers to the date and case number, perhaps, of an application for citizenship.  If this is the case, it is somewhat confusing since I know for a fact that her husband never applied for citizenship and I didn't think women could apply in their own right at that time.   Thanks for any insight!

Joseph, I believe in the records of Germans to America if the person states they are from other than Germany they are not listed. My husbands grandparents came from Pommern and they are not in the Germans to America. Also another set of grandparents were German but came from Russia so they also are not listed. I believe many of the Germans are missing and those records are not complete. You can't go by them. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph C Dorsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton Genealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found them there, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry for everything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my ancestors came here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL The National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and since it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We know approximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not found anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed they did, then those records are lost. One neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec line in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s Reif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna Kapczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. While that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years after the date we originally had. Joseph --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com To: [email protected] Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1904 - Release Date: 1/20/2009 7:49 AM

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Ancestry.com only has papers for primarily the east coast naturalizations. I believe they got most of these from footnote also as they seem to be the same as what is available there. However, They have index cards for several other states. At least if you can find your ancestor in the index, you can then get the right court to send your request to. Too many ancestors applied in one place and ended up naturalized in another place or state entirely. So it's getting easier to track some moves at least. Census records only show every ten years so ancestors could have moved a lot in those years. The index makes it a bit easier to track them.

That seems odd to me -- if your relatives have been in the US since the early 1900's, you should have been able to at least find them on a census, I would think. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]>wrote: > I am one of those individuals who has never found anything on Ancestry in > ten years.Win some, lose some.Joseph > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

GO TO AUTOMATEDGENEALOGY.COM/CENSUS ITS HERE IN CANADA AND A IT HAS THE 1901 CENSUS and 1911 and a it think an early one > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:31:19 -0500> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [PBS] look up help> > Victor -> > thanks for the detail. Didn't realize it was only Alberta, Saskatchewan > and Manitoba. I was looking for Quebec - guess I'll have to wait a > little while longer.> > Ernie> > > [email protected] wrote:> > Ernie, this will get you to the 1916 Canadian Census:> > _http://www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) > > > > 1. click on search records > > 2. click on Record Search Pilot > > 3. on the map, highlight Canada > > 4. near the bottom of the page click on 1916 Canadian Census > > you are now ready to search for your names.> > > > Victor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 1/19/2009 2:38:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes:> >> > Margaret -> >> > could you please provide a bit more information about "Select the pilot > > search option" - I don't see how to use it.> >> > Thanks> >> > Ernie Chorny> >> >> > margaret walker wrote:> > > >> note: i thought i posted a note yesterday (but haven't notice it come thru > >> > > the list) about the 1916 Canada census . You can search & veiw images for > > FREE @ familysearch.org Select the pilot search option.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message> >> >> > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > > steps! > > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De> > cemailfooterNO62)> > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________