Lots of misspellings were made on the ship's manifests. If you know the area you are searching and Zabina is in the area it more then likely is the place. Jim > > > Can anyone help me figure out the name of the town in Russian Poland > that my great grandfather Szymon Sokolowski was from? > > Ancestry and Ellis Island both interpret it as "Sabina" but I can't > find a town with that name in Poland. I did find a "Zabina" and a > "Sabnie" but the handwriting on the manifest looks like the name > ends in a "u". > > Appreciate any help! (Below is the Ellis Island link to the manifest) > > > http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passRecord.asp?MID=18911930990139514048&FNM=SJZMON&LNM=SOKOLAWSKI&PLNM=SOKOLAWSKI&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&TOWN=null&SHIP=null&RF=1&pID=101535020557 > > > hasEML = false; > > > > > > > > [email protected]

This page in the Slownik tells you the where the parish is for Dzierzbia: http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_II/279. THe LDS may have filmed civil or church records: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. You may search this site to find an LDS Family History Center near you to order microfilmed records: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp. The Poland State Archives should have copies of records over 100 years old: http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en. I use the archives to get the records that the LDS don't have microfilmed. The archives charges by the hour and a few per page copied. LDS charges a rental fee for the film and about 25 cents per page. Check with both organizations. I don't know if you can get old school records. It's hard enough trying to get a priest to find church records. Tina Ellis On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Mary Ann Baillargeon < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for any records of my Father from Poland, School, Church > (Poryte) etc. > I have records from the USA. > Name: Stanislaw Korytkowski > Born: 21 January 1895 > Place: Dzierzbia, Poland (NE Poland) > Faith: Roman Catholic > Mother: Marianna Piasecka > Father: Konstansty Korytkowski > Sibling: Casmier Korytkowski > To USA 1st 1 May 1910 from Hamburg Germany, to Baltimore on SS > Bradenburg > Military Sergeant in Calvary in "Polish Army" or "Blue Army" > To USA 2nd 7 July 1920 from Danzig on SS Princess Matoika > Marriage 1 6 November 1923 to Catherine Baranowski nee: Grabowska > Marriage 2 10 Sept 1932 to Mary Lusinska > Death: 17 December 1949, Wyandotte, Michigan > > I am looking for any records of my Grandfather from Poland, > School, Church (Poryte) Marriage etc.. I have records from the USA. > Name: Konstansty Korytkowski > Born: 18 January 1867 > Place: Dzierzbia, Poland (NE Poland) > Faith: Roman Catholic > Mother: E Grabowska > Father: > Marriage Marianna Piasecka in Poland > To USA 1 May 1910 from Hamburg Germany to Baltimore on SS Bradenburg > Death: 21 April 1920 Wyandotte, Michigan > > I am looking for any records of my Grandfather from Poland, > School, Church, Marriage etc.. I have records from the USA. > Name: Alexander Lusinski > Born: 20 September 1877 > Place: Poland > Faith: > Mother: Catherine? > Father: Martin Lusinski > Marriage Marianna Grabowska in Poland > To USA 15 January 1910 to N.Y. on SS Antwerp > Death: 29 July 1948 Wyandotte, Michigan > > I am looking for any records of my Grandmother from Poland, > School, Church, Marriage etc.. I have records from the USA. > Name: Marianna Grabowska > Born: 29 December 1885 > Place: Dzierzbia, Poland (NE Poland) > Faith: Roman Catholic > Mother: Amelia Baginska > Father: Karol Grabowski > Marriage Alexander Lusinski > To USA 7 June 1912 from Hamburg Germany, to N.Y. on SS Pretoria > Death: 6 December 1945 Wyandotte, Michigan > > > > Thank you, > Mary Ann Baillargeon > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I am looking for any records of my Father from Poland, School, Church (Poryte) etc. I have records from the USA. Name: Stanislaw Korytkowski Born: 21 January 1895 Place: Dzierzbia, Poland (NE Poland) Faith: Roman Catholic Mother: Marianna Piasecka Father: Konstansty Korytkowski Sibling: Casmier Korytkowski To USA 1st 1 May 1910 from Hamburg Germany, to Baltimore on SS Bradenburg Military Sergeant in Calvary in "Polish Army" or "Blue Army" To USA 2nd 7 July 1920 from Danzig on SS Princess Matoika Marriage 1 6 November 1923 to Catherine Baranowski nee: Grabowska Marriage 2 10 Sept 1932 to Mary Lusinska Death: 17 December 1949, Wyandotte, Michigan I am looking for any records of my Grandfather from Poland, School, Church (Poryte) Marriage etc.. I have records from the USA. Name: Konstansty Korytkowski Born: 18 January 1867 Place: Dzierzbia, Poland (NE Poland) Faith: Roman Catholic Mother: E Grabowska Father: Marriage Marianna Piasecka in Poland To USA 1 May 1910 from Hamburg Germany to Baltimore on SS Bradenburg Death: 21 April 1920 Wyandotte, Michigan I am looking for any records of my Grandfather from Poland, School, Church, Marriage etc.. I have records from the USA. Name: Alexander Lusinski Born: 20 September 1877 Place: Poland Faith: Mother: Catherine? Father: Martin Lusinski Marriage Marianna Grabowska in Poland To USA 15 January 1910 to N.Y. on SS Antwerp Death: 29 July 1948 Wyandotte, Michigan I am looking for any records of my Grandmother from Poland, School, Church, Marriage etc.. I have records from the USA. Name: Marianna Grabowska Born: 29 December 1885 Place: Dzierzbia, Poland (NE Poland) Faith: Roman Catholic Mother: Amelia Baginska Father: Karol Grabowski Marriage Alexander Lusinski To USA 7 June 1912 from Hamburg Germany, to N.Y. on SS Pretoria Death: 6 December 1945 Wyandotte, Michigan Thank you, Mary Ann Baillargeon [email protected]

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is Find My past a website? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Pereira" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > Have you tried Find My past? That is how I found my elusive ancestors'- > they > came to Canada from (what is now) Ukraine- via LIVERPOOL (her hubby, who > preceeded her took another route- TRIESTE). > Melanie > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: January-20-09 9:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > > I went to NARA in NY and looked at the microfilms of the ships. I was > determined to find her. This grandmother is still very elusive. I can't > find > her birth record. I found the records of her siblings and I am beginning > to > think that she just dropped out of a sky one day. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jakki szymanowski <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:29 pm > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > > > > i- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline > Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my > randmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I > started a > roject of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two > months > of > hips. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had > rrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps > she > > ould have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname > orribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in > the > > otterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who > did > he ship manifest could have misspelt the name. > > Concerning the difference=2 > 0in the marriage year. I have found several instances > f wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem > was > ith the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred > and > it > as discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in > the > kty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according > to > he year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another > ncestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two > hildren during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the > dowry > ecord and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the > recorded > ate. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 > 02009 12:05 am > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > > > I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton > enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found > hem > here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry > for >> verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my > ncestors > ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL > > he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, > and >> ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We >> know20 > pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have > not > ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is > believed > > hey did, then those records are lost. > > ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers > Kmiec > ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her > mother’s > eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named > Marianna > apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. > > hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 > years > fter the date we originally had. > Joseph > > -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> > ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > o: [email protected] > a > te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM > You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > he message > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, ple > ase send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

yes, and searching is free, but all documents and transcriptions cost. they have passenger lists of people leaving england 1890-1960, including those whose boats stopped in the uk on the way to other countries from europe. http://findmypast.com the free search is still quite informative if the name and destination are somewhat unique. On 1/22/09, Margie Hicks <[email protected]> wrote: > is Find My past a website? >

Yes........here it is..........you can browse the indexes but you have to pay for the images or information. http://www.findmypast.com/home.jsp Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie Hicks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > is Find My past a website? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Melanie Pereira" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com > > >> Have you tried Find My past? That is how I found my elusive ancestors'- >> they >> came to Canada from (what is now) Ukraine- via LIVERPOOL (her hubby, who >> preceeded her took another route- TRIESTE). >> Melanie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: January-20-09 9:19 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com >> >> >> I went to NARA in NY and looked at the microfilms of the ships. I was >> determined to find her. This grandmother is still very elusive. I can't >> find >> her birth record. I found the records of her siblings and I am beginning >> to >> think that she just dropped out of a sky one day. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jakki szymanowski <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:29 pm >> Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com >> >> >> >> >> i- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline >> Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] >> >> >> >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com >> >> I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my >> randmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I >> started a >> roject of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two >> months >> of >> hips. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin >> had >> rrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps >> she >> >> ould have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and >> surname >> orribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in >> the >> >> otterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who >> did >> he ship manifest could have misspelt the name. >> >> Concerning the difference=2 >> 0in the marriage year. I have found several instances >> f wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem >> was >> ith the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred >> and >> it >> as discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place >> in >> the >> kty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who >> according >> to >> he year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another >> ncestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two >> hildren during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the >> dowry >> ecord and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the >> recorded >> ate. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 >> 02009 12:05 am >> Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com >> >> >> >> I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton >> enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I >> found >> hem >> here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked >> Ancestry >> for >>> verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my >> ncestors >> ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL >> >> he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to >> American, >> and >>> ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We >>> know20 >> pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have >> not >> ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is >> believed >> >> hey did, then those records are lost. >> >> ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers >> Kmiec >> ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her >> mother’s >> eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named >> Marianna >> apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. >> >> hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 >> years >> fter the date we originally had. >> Joseph >> >> -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: >> From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> >> ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com >> o: [email protected] >> a >> te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM >> You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census >> record? >> >> ------------------------------ >> o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >>> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>> body of >> he message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of >> >> he message >> >> ------------------------------ >> o unsubscribe from the list, ple >> ase send an email to [email protected] >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of >> >> he message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JimPres" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] beautiful Poland

Hi, It is surely ok to have them view it. It is the Polish National Anthem picked by the Soladarnosc/Solidarity movement. The real anthem is Poland is not yet lost Here are the words in Polish and English: Z glebi dziejow, z krain mrocznych Z puszcz odwiecznych, pol i stepow Nasz rodowod, nasz poczatek, Hen, od Piasta, Kraka, Lecha. From the depths of history, from murky lands, From eternal forests, fields, and steppes. Our people, our beginning, From Piast, Krak, and Lech. Dlugi lancuch ludzich istnien Polaczonych mysla prosta: [Zeby Polska, zeby Polska, Zeby Polska byla Polska.] bis A long chain of human beings United by a simple thought: That Poland, that Poland, That Poland be Poland. Wtedy, kiedy los nieznany Rozsypywyal nas po katach, Kiedy obce wiatry gnaly Obce orly na proporcach. When an unknown fate Scattered us to the corners of the earth. When foreign winds chased Foreign eagles on banners. Przy ogniskach wybuchala Niezmozona nuta swojska: [Zeby Polska, zeby Polska, Zeby Polska byla Polska.] bis At the hearth there would burst out an overwhelming and familiar note: That Poland, that Poland, That Poland be Poland. Zrzucal uczen portret cara, Ksiadz Sciegienny wznosil modly, Opatrywal woz Drzymala Dumne wiersze pisal Norwid. A pupil threw down a portrait of the czar, Father Sciegienny offered his prayers Drzymala fixed up his wagon, Norwid wrote proud verses. I kto szable mogl utrzymac Ten formowal legion wojska, [Zeby Polska, zeby Polska, Zeby Polska byla Polska.] bis And whoever could hold a sword would organize army legions That Poland, that Poland That Poland be Poland. Matki, zony, w mrocznych izbach Wyszywaly na sztandarach Haslo: "Honor i Ojczyzna", I ruszala w pole wiara. Mothers, wives, in dark huts Would sew on banners The slogan: `Honor and the Fatherland' And faith would set forth into the field (of battle) I ruszala wiara w pole Od Chicago do Tobolska. [Zeby Polska, zeby Polska, Zeby Polska byla Polska.] bis And faith would set forth into the field From Chicago to Tobolsk That Poland, that Poland That Poland be Poland. On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Barbara wrote: > I don't know it is OK to send this to the board but it is worth > looking at, > only wish I understood Polish so I could enjoy the song. The > pictures are > beautiful and with so many board members having gone to Poland there > may be > pictures that bring back memories to them. > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=FK05Xqtt71M > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message [email protected]

I don't know it is OK to send this to the board but it is worth looking at, only wish I understood Polish so I could enjoy the song. The pictures are beautiful and with so many board members having gone to Poland there may be pictures that bring back memories to them. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=FK05Xqtt71M

Thanks! I dread their move. It was only after about the same time that they added the Ancestry ads that many of us started encountering extremely serious problems using the site. I very seriously doubt that JewishGen will be better for all if they are letting Ancestry.com fiddle with their html. I sure hope that my suspicians are wrong! And how they can think it will be faster when Ancestry.com subscribers are screaming in pain due to the slowness of ancestry.com site is a puzzle to me. On 1/21/09, JimPres <[email protected]> wrote: > I just received this from another list. FYI if you use the jewishgen > site. > > Jim > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: seraph1818 <[email protected]> >> Date: January 21, 2009 10:33:31 AM EST >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [polish_genius] JewishGen Announcement >> >> For those of you who use the JewishGen website, you might want to be >> aware that they will be moving their servers on Jan. 27, 2009. >> http://www.jewishgen.org >> >> For more details, please read the official announcement below. >> >> Debbie >> California >> >> ____________________________________________________ >> >> Subject: JewishGen is moving! >> From: "Warren Blatt" <[email protected]> >> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:58:22 -0800 >> >> JewishGen is moving!

Hi all, Found the following as well in Saskatchewan, Prince Albert, Sub-district 8, page 31 Tokarak: John (36), Wasylana (39), Paraska (13), George (12), Dmytra (10), Annie (9), Wasyl (8), Petra (7), Dora (6), Marguerita (5), Mike (4), Makalina (3), and Waska (2) Tokarak: Petra (22), Mary (19) Chris _________________________________________________________________ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx

Hi all, I don't remember who was looking for this name but I came across the following in Saskatchewan, Prince Albert, subdistrict 6, page 8: Tokaryk: Andre (63), Annie (54), Wasillina (15) and Paraska (11) Tokaryk: Wasil (31), Anna (24), Ivan (6), Marie (5) and Mi?? (3) Hope this helps! Chris Bukoski _________________________________________________________________ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx

I think it may have been Krakino~w in Polish. You can use the Shtetlseeker to find it: http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/LocTown.asp. If your family was Roman Catholic, the LDS will not have them on microfilm. You will need to write to the archives in Vilnius for them to find records for you, if they are over 100 years old. Krakinow is where the civil records would have been recorded, according to the Slownik: http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XV_cz.2/152. There may even be a church in the town. Try to google it under the current name. That's in bold print in the Shtetlseeker. I hope I have found the place for you. I'm not that familiar with that part of Lithuania. Tina Ellis On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Laura June Topolsky < [email protected]> wrote: > On an similar note, I just got my great-grandfather's naturalization papers > mailed to me from a courthouse. It lists his town of birth as Krecknovic > Russia (Lithuania on page 2). Anyone have any idea what this town actually > is called? Thanks > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Laura June Topolsky < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > They may be doing this in conjunction with Footnote.com, which already > has > > many naturalization documents online. Laura > > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Tina Ellis <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Ancestry.com is in the process of adding Naturalization documents to > their > >> website. I received a notifcation this past week stating they have > begun > >> to > >> add them to their website. I checked for my family members and found > >> none, > >> but if they are just beginning, I would not expect them all to be online > >> until they have added more. > >> > >> This is what they said about their project: > >> They Left Behind Family, Friends, and Familiarity... > >> > >> *Would you like to know more about where your ancestors came > >> from?*Immigration is a pivotal part of our personal heritage, but can > >> also be one > >> of the more elusive challenges for the family history detective. > Luckily, > >> naturalization records can not only be a tremendous help in solving > >> mysteries, they are one of the richest sources of personal, family, and > >> immigration information available. That's why we're especially excited > to > >> announce we've just launched indexes to nearly 3 million naturalization > >> records from 1791 all the way through 1992, and that we will soon be > >> releasing nearly 2 million original naturalization records. > >> > >> Good luck to everyone. I found several using the free 7 day feature at > >> http://www.footnote.com, and they did not have all the ones I need, so > >> maybe > >> they will soon appear on this site. > >> > >> Tina Eillis > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On an similar note, I just got my great-grandfather's naturalization papers mailed to me from a courthouse. It lists his town of birth as Krecknovic Russia (Lithuania on page 2). Anyone have any idea what this town actually is called? Thanks On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Laura June Topolsky < [email protected]> wrote: > They may be doing this in conjunction with Footnote.com, which already has > many naturalization documents online. Laura > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Tina Ellis <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Ancestry.com is in the process of adding Naturalization documents to their >> website. I received a notifcation this past week stating they have begun >> to >> add them to their website. I checked for my family members and found >> none, >> but if they are just beginning, I would not expect them all to be online >> until they have added more. >> >> This is what they said about their project: >> They Left Behind Family, Friends, and Familiarity... >> >> *Would you like to know more about where your ancestors came >> from?*Immigration is a pivotal part of our personal heritage, but can >> also be one >> of the more elusive challenges for the family history detective. Luckily, >> naturalization records can not only be a tremendous help in solving >> mysteries, they are one of the richest sources of personal, family, and >> immigration information available. That's why we're especially excited to >> announce we've just launched indexes to nearly 3 million naturalization >> records from 1791 all the way through 1992, and that we will soon be >> releasing nearly 2 million original naturalization records. >> >> Good luck to everyone. I found several using the free 7 day feature at >> http://www.footnote.com, and they did not have all the ones I need, so >> maybe >> they will soon appear on this site. >> >> Tina Eillis >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

I just received this from another list. FYI if you use the jewishgen site. Jim Begin forwarded message: > From: seraph1818 <[email protected]> > Date: January 21, 2009 10:33:31 AM EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: [polish_genius] JewishGen Announcement > > For those of you who use the JewishGen website, you might want to be > aware that they will be moving their servers on Jan. 27, 2009. > http://www.jewishgen.org > > For more details, please read the official announcement below. > > Debbie > California > > ____________________________________________________ > > Subject: JewishGen is moving! > From: "Warren Blatt" <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:58:22 -0800 > > JewishGen is moving! > > The re-hosting of the JewishGen servers from Texas to > the new location at the Ancestry.com data center is > scheduled to occur beginning on Tuesday, January 27. > > We hope to make this transition as quickly as possible. > But in order to ensure the complete and reliable transfer > of data, it will be necessary to completely shut down all > JewishGen servers for a period of time. > > We will start up the new servers as soon as possible, > but we may encounter some "bumps" in our initial operations > in the new location, as there are many programs and > operations to be ported and configured. > > We anticipate that after the transition, JewishGen will > be stronger, faster, and more reliable than ever. > Thank you for your continued patience and support, > and we look forward to providing you with an > ever-improving JewishGen experience. > > Warren > > Warren Blatt > Managing Director, JewishGen > > > > ------------------------------------ > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/polish_genius/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [email protected]! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/polish_genius/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/polish_genius/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:[email protected] > mailto:[email protected] > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [email protected] > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > [email protected]

This film can be purchased through http://www.amazon.com and http://www.barnesandnoble.com. On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:47 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Not to be too techy here, but I do have a question on copying this film. > Does the VHS state it may be "copied" for educational purposes or "showed > for viewing" or "used" for educational purposes? There is a big > difference between passing around a personal film for individual viewing > and copying that same film and charging (even if charges are for the cost > of copying). Have you obtained written permission from the film/copyright > holder to make copies like this? At the least, no monies should be > exchanged. Persons interested should send you a blank dvd, with a return > paid postage envelope. No monies exchanged. this way. I have doubts > about this, too; copyright still being infringed potentially. And Anyone > who purchases a known pirated copy is just accountable as the person > copying and selling it. Please check the writing/rules printed on label. > > > respectfully, > > Claudia Brow > > > > Hello to all interested in the Harvest of Despair. As I wrote, I will > accept $20-$25 which includes postage and handling. Other sites sell it > for much more. You can view a small utube version but it is still > blurred. > > The quality of some of these films is poor or contains too many pixels for > a good viewing. And there are other films on the same topic of Stalin's > industrial surge and forces famine of the Ukrainians. But this all > statred after 1918 and built into 1928. You view online and you choose > > I have only one original and I'm willing to copy a few DVDs for a few. > people. Just email me privately for further instructions. One of which is > that I would like to receive a signed note that states: "I will not use > this film for anything but education and family use." [Example Ancestry > work] > peekaboobrat at yahoo dot com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

4. Re: Film-original of Famine in Ukraine "Harvest of Despair" Hi Guys, is this the film that can be downloaded from the likes of Google etc?I have carried out a couple of searches for this film and find it can also be downloaded via Youtube too!Regards, Michael McAllisterSearching for PERCHANYCZ and POCAS from around Turka. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Subject: Re: [PBS] Film-original of Famine in Ukraine "Harvest of Despair" I would greatly appreciate a copy of "Harvest of Despair." My husband is 1/2 Polish. His grandmother was born in Turynka, Zhovkva, Lviv, Ukraine, and his grandfather was born in Budy, Wyszkow, Warszawa, Poland. This DVD will be of great benefit to us so thanks for your kind offer of a DVD. If you email me privately I can give you my mailing info and any other personal info you may require. Carolyn Swiss, [email protected]

Not to be too techy here, but I do have a question on copying this film. Does the VHS state it may be "copied" for educational purposes or "showed for viewing" or "used" for educational purposes? There is a big difference between passing around a personal film for individual viewing and copying that same film and charging (even if charges are for the cost of copying). Have you obtained written permission from the film/copyright holder to make copies like this? At the least, no monies should be exchanged. Persons interested should send you a blank dvd, with a return paid postage envelope. No monies exchanged. this way. I have doubts about this, too; copyright still being infringed potentially. And Anyone who purchases a known pirated copy is just accountable as the person copying and selling it. Please check the writing/rules printed on label. respectfully, Claudia Brow Hello to all interested in the Harvest of Despair. As I wrote, I will accept $20-$25 which includes postage and handling. Other sites sell it for much more. You can view a small utube version but it is still blurred. The quality of some of these films is poor or contains too many pixels for a good viewing. And there are other films on the same topic of Stalin's industrial surge and forces famine of the Ukrainians. But this all statred after 1918 and built into 1928. You view online and you choose I have only one original and I'm willing to copy a few DVDs for a few. people. Just email me privately for further instructions. One of which is that I would like to receive a signed note that states: "I will not use this film for anything but education and family use." [Example Ancestry work] peekaboobrat at yahoo dot com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tried Find My past? That is how I found my elusive ancestors'- they came to Canada from (what is now) Ukraine- via LIVERPOOL (her hubby, who preceeded her took another route- TRIESTE). Melanie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: January-20-09 9:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I went to NARA in NY and looked at the microfilms of the ships. I was determined to find her. This grandmother is still very elusive. I can't find her birth record. I found the records of her siblings and I am beginning to think that she just dropped out of a sky one day. -----Original Message----- From: jakki szymanowski <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:29 pm Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com i- How did you do the research ship by ship? Jacqueline Jacqueline Szymanowski 3921 Random Lane Sacramento CA 95864 [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:24:33 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I can understand your frustration. For five years, I searched for my randmother's ship manifest. I was sure that she had swam to the US. I started a roject of looking name by name, ship by ship from NY. I finished two months of hips. Then I discovered a thread. I found that in a census, her cousin had rrived in the US the same year as she had stated. I thought that perhaps she ould have arrived with him. And bingo, there she was, her name and surname orribly misspelt. She had left from the port of Rotterdam and I found in the otterdam index her name correctly spelt but I could see where the one who did he ship manifest could have misspelt the name. Concerning the difference=2 0in the marriage year. I have found several instances f wrong year recordings. I have come to the conclusion that the problem was ith the scribe. If the scribe did not record the event when it occurred and it as discovered then the scribe had to place the record in the next place in the kty Metrykalne. I even had one many times great grandmother, who according to he year of her birth record, was 10 years old when she married. Another ncestor's marriage was recorded five years after the event. They had two hildren during those 5 years. I have the court record which documents the dowry ecord and mentions the date of marriage which was 5 years before the recorded ate. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph C Dorsey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 20 Jan=2 02009 12:05 am Subject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com I have found them in the census, but not on Ancestry. At the Clayton enealogical Library in Houston we have all census for the U.S. and I found hem here, so I did not look at the census at Ancestry. But I checked Ancestry for > verything else and did not find anything. That is why I know that my ncestors ame here by either private ship or an airplane of the future. LOL he National Library in Ottawa has the complete set of Germans to American, and > ince it really does not list everyone, I did not find them there. We > know20 pproximately when the Polish and the German ancestors came over, but have not ound anything yet. If the Germans arrived in Galveston like it is believed hey did, then those records are lost. ne neat thing happened last July. I was looking for my mothers fathers Kmiec ine in the Pozen Project Marriage database when I stumbled upon her mother’s eif line. August Reif who was German, married a Polish woman named Marianna apczyñska and I found their marriage in the parish of Mieœcisko in 1869. hile that was exciting it opened a new can of worms since the date is 7 years fter the date we originally had. Joseph -- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tina Ellis <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tina Ellis <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [PBS] PBS] Naturalization Documents @ Ancestry.com o: [email protected] a te: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:50 PM You mean to tell my you have not even found a relative on a census record? ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, ple ase send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message