I used to be able to do a right click on the manifest and print it. In about the past year this has not worked. A message pops from internet explorer that this function has been disdabled and I have yet to figure out how to get it to work I cannot pay $18 or more for every copy of a manifest I want and it is hard to write down everything. I do have the forms for this but it takes a long time to write everying out if you can even firgure out what it says maybe someone else know how to do it Margaret Hicks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:56 AM Subject: [PBS] Ellis Island manifests > Hi, > Maybe this question has been addressed already, but I don't recall seeing > information on if it is possible to do what I would like. When searching > Ellis Island and finding the manifest you want, is it possible to save the > document in a file or print it so you can read it later? I am not a > computer person so I don't know if there are ways to do this, if anyone > can > give me instructions I would greatly appreciate it. > Thanks, > Barbara > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Left click on  the image and you should get a box in the upper left hand corner with 4 icons.  This will include an icon of a disc to save and an icon of a printer to print.  Hope this helps Laura ________________________________ From: Margie Hicks <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:05:15 PM Subject: Re: [PBS] Ellis Island manifests I used to be able to do a right click on the manifest and print it. In about the past year this has not worked. A message pops from internet explorer that this function has been disdabled and I have yet to figure out how to get it to work I cannot pay $18 or more for every copy of a manifest I want and it is hard to write down everything. I do have the forms for this but it takes a long time to write everying out if you can even firgure out what it says maybe someone else know how to do it Margaret Hicks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:56 AM Subject: [PBS] Ellis Island manifests > Hi, > Maybe this question has been addressed already, but I don't recall seeing > information on if it is possible to do what I would like.  When searching > Ellis Island and finding the manifest you want, is it possible to save the > document in a file or print it so you can read it later?  I am not a > computer person so I don't know if there are ways to do this, if anyone > can > give me instructions I would greatly appreciate it. > Thanks, > Barbara > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barbara, I only posted the way a Mac works for those who had one, was not sure that you did. Most have windows. All records to my knowledge have to be registered with the state. I would check there. Jim On Feb 20, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Barbara wrote: > For Melaie, I am not sure what a snip capability is. Where would I > find it > on the computer" > > For Linda, I had Ancestry but a lot of the documents printed fuzzy. > > For JD, how can I get win.ptr? > > For Jim, I have windows. > > The page I am trying to copy has a lot of information some of which > was > added years later. The document is from 1920 and is the only one I > can > find. It states she lived in the US from 1906-11. I can not find a > manifest in her maiden name. It's said she lived in NY when she > came here > and then went to PA where she married. My problem is that the > church she > married in says they have no records. The church split, a bitter > dispute, > and my grandmothers part no longer was under the Pope. Can't figure > out > what happened to the records. I assume she married sometime between > 06-11, > were they requied to have wedding applications in Pa. at that time? > did they > have register in a court? > > Thanks to all of you who responded. > Barbara > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message [email protected]

For Melaie, I am not sure what a snip capability is. Where would I find it on the computer" For Linda, I had Ancestry but a lot of the documents printed fuzzy. For JD, how can I get win.ptr? For Jim, I have windows. The page I am trying to copy has a lot of information some of which was added years later. The document is from 1920 and is the only one I can find. It states she lived in the US from 1906-11. I can not find a manifest in her maiden name. It's said she lived in NY when she came here and then went to PA where she married. My problem is that the church she married in says they have no records. The church split, a bitter dispute, and my grandmothers part no longer was under the Pope. Can't figure out what happened to the records. I assume she married sometime between 06-11, were they requied to have wedding applications in Pa. at that time? did they have register in a court? Thanks to all of you who responded. Barbara

The "snipping tool" works good for this in Vista. David http://david-polanddavid.blogspot.com/ "Spieszmy się kochać ludzi, tak szybko odchodzą" > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:05:15 -0500 > Subject: Re: [PBS] Ellis Island manifests > > I used to be able to do a right click on the manifest and print it. In about > the past year this has not worked. A message pops from internet explorer > that this function has been disdabled and I have yet to figure out how to > get it to work > > I cannot pay $18 or more for every copy of a manifest I want and it is hard > to write down everything. I do have the forms for this but it takes a long > time to write everying out if you can even firgure out what it says > > maybe someone else know how to do it > Margaret Hicks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:56 AM > Subject: [PBS] Ellis Island manifests > > > > Hi, > > Maybe this question has been addressed already, but I don't recall seeing > > information on if it is possible to do what I would like. When searching > > Ellis Island and finding the manifest you want, is it possible to save the > > document in a file or print it so you can read it later? I am not a > > computer person so I don't know if there are ways to do this, if anyone > > can > > give me instructions I would greatly appreciate it. > > Thanks, > > Barbara > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I use Internet Explorer. When viewing the image, if you hold your mouse steady over the image, a small toolbar appears over the image. One of the icons is a diskette. If you click that icon, it will prompt you to save the image (in GIF format) to your computer. I've never had any trouble with this. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Barbara <[email protected]> wrote: > For Melaie, I am not sure what a snip capability is. Where would I find it > on the computer" > > For Linda, I had Ancestry but a lot of the documents printed fuzzy. > > For JD, how can I get win.ptr? > > For Jim, I have windows. > > The page I am trying to copy has a lot of information some of which was > added years later. The document is from 1920 and is the only one I can > find. It states she lived in the US from 1906-11. I can not find a > manifest in her maiden name. It's said she lived in NY when she came here > and then went to PA where she married. My problem is that the church she > married in says they have no records. The church split, a bitter dispute, > and my grandmothers part no longer was under the Pope. Can't figure out > what happened to the records. I assume she married sometime between 06-11, > were they requied to have wedding applications in Pa. at that time? did they > have register in a court? > > Thanks to all of you who responded. > Barbara > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If you are on a Macintosh all you do is hold down the apple, shift and number three and it will take a picture of the screen and put it on your desktop. Or You can hold down the apple, shift and the number 4 and a bulls eye will come up you can hold down the mouse and drag the bulls eye through the part you want and it will put it on the desktop. If you click on these pictures they will open in Preview. Jim On Feb 20, 2009, at 3:05 PM, JD wrote: > I use a free program called win.ptr > You can save any page or part of a page or screen shot to a file or > send it to your printer. > If you save it to a file you can use a photo shop program to resize > it. > I also have this program on my flash drive so it's handy at the > library. > -I save the screen shots to the flash drive. > It's small enough to fit on a floppy if you still use a floppy drive. > > Here's the URL > http://www.poellingers.com/winptr.htm > > JD > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message [email protected]

I use a free program called win.ptr You can save any page or part of a page or screen shot to a file or send it to your printer. If you save it to a file you can use a photo shop program to resize it. I also have this program on my flash drive so it's handy at the library. -I save the screen shots to the flash drive. It's small enough to fit on a floppy if you still use a floppy drive. Here's the URL http://www.poellingers.com/winptr.htm JD

HI I have vista on my computer. I don't what it is called but the little icon (on mine it looks like a "flying window") on the lower left of the very bottom tool bar- it opens and shows all the programmes on our computer (so I guess it's called a DIRECTORY!<duh!!> Smile) I open that; and along with Microsoft Word, calculator, Family Tree Programme, Excel & etc. comes "SNIPPING TOOL"- it kinda takes a "screen picture".... Melanie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Sent: February-20-09 1:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PBS] Ellis Island manifests For Melaie, I am not sure what a snip capability is. Where would I find it on the computer" For Linda, I had Ancestry but a lot of the documents printed fuzzy. For JD, how can I get win.ptr? For Jim, I have windows. The page I am trying to copy has a lot of information some of which was added years later. The document is from 1920 and is the only one I can find. It states she lived in the US from 1906-11. I can not find a manifest in her maiden name. It's said she lived in NY when she came here and then went to PA where she married. My problem is that the church she married in says they have no records. The church split, a bitter dispute, and my grandmothers part no longer was under the Pope. Can't figure out what happened to the records. I assume she married sometime between 06-11, were they requied to have wedding applications in Pa. at that time? did they have register in a court? Thanks to all of you who responded. Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I haven't been able to figure out how to do this, because basically, they want you to purchase the document.  I know when I have tried to print it or print it from saved file, it is in an enlarged size that doesn't fit on a piece of paper-- like, I only can see the upper left corner of the document.  If you have Ancestry, you can, of course, save, print, and whateveryou want to do with the document. --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Barbara <[email protected]> wrote: From: Barbara <[email protected]> Subject: [PBS] Ellis Island manifests To: [email protected] Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:56 AM Hi, Maybe this question has been addressed already, but I don't recall seeing information on if it is possible to do what I would like. When searching Ellis Island and finding the manifest you want, is it possible to save the document in a file or print it so you can read it later? I am not a computer person so I don't know if there are ways to do this, if anyone can give me instructions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Maybe this question has been addressed already, but I don't recall seeing information on if it is possible to do what I would like. When searching Ellis Island and finding the manifest you want, is it possible to save the document in a file or print it so you can read it later? I am not a computer person so I don't know if there are ways to do this, if anyone can give me instructions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Barbara

Do you have Windows Vista as your operating system? David http://david-polanddavid.blogspot.com/ "Spieszmy się kochać ludzi, tak szybko odchodzą" > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:56:41 -0500 > Subject: [PBS] Ellis Island manifests > > Hi, > Maybe this question has been addressed already, but I don't recall seeing > information on if it is possible to do what I would like. When searching > Ellis Island and finding the manifest you want, is it possible to save the > document in a file or print it so you can read it later? I am not a > computer person so I don't know if there are ways to do this, if anyone can > give me instructions I would greatly appreciate it. > Thanks, > Barbara > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barbara- Do you have "snip" capabilities on your computer? That's what I use and it's perfect! Melanie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Sent: February-20-09 7:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PBS] Ellis Island manifests Hi, Maybe this question has been addressed already, but I don't recall seeing information on if it is possible to do what I would like. When searching Ellis Island and finding the manifest you want, is it possible to save the document in a file or print it so you can read it later? I am not a computer person so I don't know if there are ways to do this, if anyone can give me instructions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Toledo Polish Genealogical Society will be holding a meeting February 21, 2009, at the St. Hedwig School behind the Historic St. Hedwig's Church located on Lagrange. The Society invites anyone that is interested in finding their Polish roots to come to the meetings. The meetings start a 10 am to noon and are free. Stop in and meet maybe a cousin or two. A fun place to go.

Simply Polish (MI) hosts Polish Genealogy Class Suzan Marzec 's Simply Polish shop hosts Polish Genealogy Class http://www.simplypolishusa.com/classes.htm#GENEALOGY_CLASS_ Pre-Registration . Sunday, March 1st . 1:00pm - 2:30pm and 3:30pm - 5:00pm Limited Seating . Bring Paper & Pen . Handouts Will Be Given . Refreshments Will Be Provided Cecile (Ceil) Wendt Jensen is a Certified Genealogist and owner of Michigan Polonia. Author, educator, and researcher, Cecile is a native of Detroit, and a board member of Polish Genealogical Society of Michigan serving as their representative to the Federation of Genealogical Societies. Ceil is a graduate of Michigan State University in East Lansing and spent thirty years in K-12 education where she pioneered multimedia technology integration in the classroom. She is currently developing the Polonica Americana Research Institute on the historic Polish American campus of Orchard Lake, Michigan. Programs begin in early 2009.

There are several places in Ukraine named Odessa. I would start with using the Shtetlseeker: http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/LocTown.asp. Enlarge the maps around these place and see if any of them have places that look similar in their spellings. Tina On 2/17/09, gloria antypowich <[email protected]> wrote: > > Especially to Fred Hoffman for all the information you gave -now I have to > sit down and really think about this and consider where I turn to search > next. I'm kind of staggering, but what you explained makes so much sense. > Where would you look next ? One time I contacted a genealogist to search > out my husbands mothers family history in Austria. He quoted me 1400 > Euros-which would have been around $2000.00 in Canadian and I just could > not do that. In that case I had an address and the names of ancesters. > This family is so much more elusive. > > > > Thank you to all the rest of you too. I am just blown away by the > response. > > > > To Jerry: > > > > Living children of this marriage born in Russia before they immigrated to > Canada in 1904 were: > > > > 1. Simeon Chwatt Antipowicz born Aug 12, 1881 in Kovov, Odessa, > Russia. > > 2. Cornella (Kornella) born 1883 in Russia. > 3. Victor born July 17, 1888 in Kovov, Torhaewacka (Torhaevaa??)) > Russia . Victor married Lena Melashenko born March 22, 1892 in Petroka, > Harkow, Russia. She was the daughter of John F. Melashenko and Ywdokia > Hardenko. > 4. John born July 1891 in Torhaevaa, Russia. > 5. Michalena born in 1893 in Russia > 6. Johanna born May 27, 1902 in Crimea, Russia > 7. Pertosi (Parask? Bertosi? - he was called Joe in Canada) born > in1903, in Russia. > > Note: They had several other children that died. One child, Olga, who was > born in 1892 died in 1904 before the family left. Truthfully they had > children almost regularly on a yearly basis. They lost at least 5 other > children from what the family records show. > > > > The only one I have a baptismal record for is for John and it states that > he > was baptized at a Catholic Church in Saskatchewan on the 28th of November, > 1906. he would have been 15 years old then which surprised me. I am not > of > the Catholic faith but I thought people were generally baptized as babies. > > > > In my searches I have not found the names of any of the places except > Crimea-but Crimea is much more complicated than simply being Crimea, as you > know I am certain. I don't know if they moved around a lot or if all this > places are in general area. If I could nail down where they lived I could > even look for grave sights of the children that were born and died th > > > > Thank you every one > > > > Gloria Antypowich > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Gloria Antypowich wrote: > Especially to Fred Hoffman for all the information you gave -now I have to > sit down and really think about this and consider where I turn to search > next. I'm kind of staggering, but what you explained makes so much sense. > Where would you look next ? One time I contacted a genealogist to search > out my husbands mothers family history in Austria. He quoted me 1400 > Euros-which would have been around $2000.00 in Canadian and I just could > not do that. In that case I had an address and the names of ancesters. > This family is so much more elusive. Well, the information on some of the children seems promising, as it would give you specific dates and places to focus on. But I'm afraid that info is less helpful than it appears. Odessa was in Russia in 1881, but now it's in southern Ukraine (on the Black Sea). I'm also pretty sure "Harkow, Russia" is the town in Ukraine now called Kharkiv, which Poles call Charkow, in northeastern Ukraine. I can't find a Petroka in the Kharkiv area, or a Kovov in the Odesssa area, or a Torhaevaa -- but that latter name looks to me like a misspelled version of a place that is most likely in Ukraine. So I feel reasonably sure most of the children were born in territory that was then in the Russian Empire, but now is in Ukraine. Unfortunately, Kharkiv and Odessa are major cities, province capitals. Saying someone was born in "Kovov, Odessa, Russia" or "Petroka, Harkow, Russia" is like saying someone was born in New York state -- it leaves too much ground to cover. The names of the provincial capitals are recognizable, but you still have to get some kind of lead on "Kovov" and "Petroka." There is a pretty good chance those place names were misspelled or misread along the way, as I can't find either of them in any of my sources. "Petroka" may have been "Petrovka," the Russian name for a place Ukrainians would call "Petrivka." The problem is, there are 9 places called Petrivka in Kharkiv province. So that's no much help. I can't find a Kovov or anything similar in Odessa province. There are professional researchers who can help with tracing roots in Ukraine, but they'd probably charge more than you want to pay. It would make all the difference in the world if you could pin down a place name for even one of the children. But their names and dates of birth are not really enough; you still need the place of birth to make any progress. All I can suggest is to keep digging in every kind of record you can think of, in hopes of finding something that gives you that extra bit of info. If you have a verified, reliable name, place of birth, and date of birth, you can at least attempt to locate records in Ukraine without paying an arm and a leg. But I think you'll need more info than you have now; and you'll have to look for it on this side of the Atlantic. Canadian researchers, in particular, often find useful info from the East European Genealogical Society, headquartered in Winnipeg. They can't do reseasrch for you, but might be able to point you in the right direction. It couldn't hurt to check them out -- I'm assuming you're not already a member. Their Website is at www.eegsociety.org. (I edit their journal, which is why I know so much about them). I'm sorry I couldn't help more, but that's all I can tell you. I hope something I've said may prove useful. Fred Hoffman

Especially to Fred Hoffman for all the information you gave -now I have to sit down and really think about this and consider where I turn to search next. I'm kind of staggering, but what you explained makes so much sense. Where would you look next ? One time I contacted a genealogist to search out my husbands mothers family history in Austria. He quoted me 1400 Euros-which would have been around $2000.00 in Canadian and I just could not do that. In that case I had an address and the names of ancesters. This family is so much more elusive. Thank you to all the rest of you too. I am just blown away by the response. To Jerry: Living children of this marriage born in Russia before they immigrated to Canada in 1904 were: 1. Simeon Chwatt Antipowicz born Aug 12, 1881 in Kovov, Odessa, Russia. 2. Cornella (Kornella) born 1883 in Russia. 3. Victor born July 17, 1888 in Kovov, Torhaewacka (Torhaevaa??)) Russia . Victor married Lena Melashenko born March 22, 1892 in Petroka, Harkow, Russia. She was the daughter of John F. Melashenko and Ywdokia Hardenko. 4. John born July 1891 in Torhaevaa, Russia. 5. Michalena born in 1893 in Russia 6. Johanna born May 27, 1902 in Crimea, Russia 7. Pertosi (Parask? Bertosi? - he was called Joe in Canada) born in1903, in Russia. Note: They had several other children that died. One child, Olga, who was born in 1892 died in 1904 before the family left. Truthfully they had children almost regularly on a yearly basis. They lost at least 5 other children from what the family records show. The only one I have a baptismal record for is for John and it states that he was baptized at a Catholic Church in Saskatchewan on the 28th of November, 1906. he would have been 15 years old then which surprised me. I am not of the Catholic faith but I thought people were generally baptized as babies. In my searches I have not found the names of any of the places except Crimea-but Crimea is much more complicated than simply being Crimea, as you know I am certain. I don't know if they moved around a lot or if all this places are in general area. If I could nail down where they lived I could even look for grave sights of the children that were born and died th Thank you every one Gloria Antypowich

Szylik Szdlak /Szydlik Szydlak Tues Feb 17 2009 7:07 PM From: [email protected] to: [email protected] I found your search at the NE Genealogical website 'Sidlik' Dabrowy Bristol, CT Carol Carter My search found that my dad's surname 'Shedlock' came from his Dad... SIE gives the sound of 'SH.' Siedlar could easily have become Siedlak r-k Wojciech 'Siedlar' / 'Siedlarczyk' [18th century in Krosnica Austria, Polish, first used 'Siedlarczyk,' then some changed it in America-Think how difficult it was to keep spelling the old country's names] Grandfather Shedlock: Adalbert 'Sydlak' 1900 Manifest to Carbondale PA from Krosnica Austria Pol Wojciech 'Szydlak' 1907 Manifest w/wife Marya and Dau, Marya to Passaic NJ George 'Siedlak' 1919 in Adena OH Church Records Son baby Walter died in 1919, & OH death certificate had 'Shellock' George 'Shedlock' 1920-30 Censuses OH/Simpson [Carbondale]LackawannaCtyPA Parents Mary Janczak & George used 'Siedlak'-Cadiz/Adena Jefferson Cty OH Janczak became Jansock in a 1914 birth certificate of Dau KAY. Son, Stanley's Family, from Union County NJ used 'Shedlak.' I still can't find his WWII registration. Stan went into the Marines but I found no record yet. On the other side 'Bednarczyk' became 'Bednarik' on the US 1900 Census. 1906 Grampa & Gramma's wedding Georg and Mary 'Benerik' Strus appeared. 1910 Census Forest City PA again 'Bednarchek.' Cousins used 'Bednarczik.' We used Bednarczyk and then 'Bednarick.' Finally, after about 1919 it became 'Benarick.' Strus in 1910 became "Truce." Believe it or not! Thanks to someone else, I found the sound-alike? Wielgors became Wielgus & probably other spellings. Stanislaw = Stanley And the above does not include the "disownment of certain family memebers." Happy Researching, ;-) Joanie Wielgus

Opoening with paint, I forgot to say, is for documents that have been download to the computer. I have found that documents from ancestry.com and other sites are clearer when I right button click the mouse and open document in Paint. I don't really know why this works but it sure makes is much clearer. I'm trying to help someone fill in thier family tree. Ancestors arrive @ Halifax June 18 1903 on ship Assyria (actually i was told the 20th, but the 18th is the only one i found...) So i looked thru the pages, I think I found one family arriving on page 22, Demczuk, Wasyl 56 yrs, Paranka, Ilko, Peter & ?? girl I am also looking for RURAK & HOURNUK families. They were all suppose to be on the same ship. I'm having a hard time reading the images & even when I save it to my computer it's no help. RURAK, Dmyto/Dan b1861 wife, Annie b.abt 1871 son , Alex. S. b. abt 1899 dau Elena/Helen b. abt 1903 not sure if these kids arrive too or were born in canada... dau. Mary/Maria dau. Pearl, Poulsia are these the same name?? son Vasyl DEMCZUK, Vasyl wife, Paraska Ilka John b1892 (aka John "Norris" in WWI) Peter Athia Annie HRYNIUK, Yurko wife Athia Any help on them would be appreciated. This lady is trying to track down relatives while she still has time.... THANK YOU, Margaret _________________________________________________________________ How fun is this? IMing with Windows Live Messenger just got better. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message