Where is Gliniski?  Is it part of German Poland, Russian Poland, or Austrian Poland? --- On Thu, 10/22/09, irene caldi <irenecaldi@hotmail.com> wrote: From: irene caldi <irenecaldi@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [PBS] Sokolowska To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:03 AM Hi My maternal grandfather came from a little village near Augustow, Poland, called Gliniski.  There were Sokolowski's there, and I've been told that Sokolowskis are the root of our family.  My grandfather was born around 1860's, married, has a son, and then was widowed in the 1890's. Then he immigrated to the US, met and married my immigrant grandmother, and here we are!!!! Irene Frances Caldi > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:25:30 -0700 > From: lboris0217@yahoo.com > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PBS] Sokolowska > > My maternal grandmother's side of the family is Sokolowski/a.  Although, that is a fairly common Polish name.  That side of the family is from Labunie, which is part of Russian Poland, but maybe there is connection somewhere.  Do you have any info about the woman you are looking for:  first name, date of birth, did she ever live in the US?  Or any of that information on the children? >  > --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Dina Keeler <dbaganz@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Dina Keeler <dbaganz@yahoo.com> > Subject: [PBS] Sokolowska > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 12:27 AM > > > > Hello! > My great-great grandfather from Prussia (Baganz) married a Sokolowska from Poland. Where do I even start looking for her family? I have no marriage date or place, only the place in Prussia/now Poland (Lubau) where some of their younger children were born. > Thank you!!!! Dee > > > >        > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                           _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted more reliable, now it's more reliable. Wow! http://microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default-ga.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:102009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi My maternal grandfather came from a little village near Augustow, Poland, called Gliniski. There were Sokolowski's there, and I've been told that Sokolowskis are the root of our family. My grandfather was born around 1860's, married, has a son, and then was widowed in the 1890's. Then he immigrated to the US, met and married my immigrant grandmother, and here we are!!!! Irene Frances Caldi > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:25:30 -0700 > From: lboris0217@yahoo.com > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PBS] Sokolowska > > My maternal grandmother's side of the family is Sokolowski/a. Although, that is a fairly common Polish name. That side of the family is from Labunie, which is part of Russian Poland, but maybe there is connection somewhere. Do you have any info about the woman you are looking for: first name, date of birth, did she ever live in the US? Or any of that information on the children? > > --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Dina Keeler <dbaganz@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Dina Keeler <dbaganz@yahoo.com> > Subject: [PBS] Sokolowska > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 12:27 AM > > > > Hello! > My great-great grandfather from Prussia (Baganz) married a Sokolowska from Poland. Where do I even start looking for her family? I have no marriage date or place, only the place in Prussia/now Poland (Lubau) where some of their younger children were born. > Thank you!!!! Dee > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted more reliable, now it's more reliable. Wow! http://microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default-ga.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:102009

My maternal grandmother's side of the family is Sokolowski/a.  Although, that is a fairly common Polish name.  That side of the family is from Labunie, which is part of Russian Poland, but maybe there is connection somewhere.  Do you have any info about the woman you are looking for:  first name, date of birth, did she ever live in the US?  Or any of that information on the children?   --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Dina Keeler <dbaganz@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Dina Keeler <dbaganz@yahoo.com> Subject: [PBS] Sokolowska To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 12:27 AM Hello! My great-great grandfather from Prussia (Baganz) married a Sokolowska from Poland. Where do I even start looking for her family? I have no marriage date or place, only the place in Prussia/now Poland (Lubau) where some of their younger children were born. Thank you!!!! Dee       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning, Fred- Not to fret- we have all mis-sent items, e-mails, etc... Melanie -----Original Message----- From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hoffman Sent: October-20-09 11:51 AM To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Subject: [PBS] Please ignore the note I just sent! Hi, folks, Please ignore the note I just accidentally sent to the list. I was trying to respond to a question sent me back in July -- which gives you an idea how far behind I am! I somehow hit the wrong keys, and off it went, and to the list, not to the lady in question. I don't think there's anything in the note that will embarrass anybody (except for the revelation I'm answering notes from July). Still, if I had not sent it off prematurely, I would have finished the answer, and I probably would have noticed it was addressed to the list instead of the lady who asked the question. The worst part is, my fingers were flying all over the keyboard, and I don't know what combination of keys I hit! It's the second time today I've done this, and I need to figure it out or people will be banning me from their mailing lists.... Fred Hoffman ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello! My great-great grandfather from Prussia (Baganz) married a Sokolowska from Poland. Where do I even start looking for her family? I have no marriage date or place, only the place in Prussia/now Poland (Lubau) where some of their younger children were born. Thank you!!!! Dee

Hi, folks, Please ignore the note I just accidentally sent to the list. I was trying to respond to a question sent me back in July -- which gives you an idea how far behind I am! I somehow hit the wrong keys, and off it went, and to the list, not to the lady in question. I don't think there's anything in the note that will embarrass anybody (except for the revelation I'm answering notes from July). Still, if I had not sent it off prematurely, I would have finished the answer, and I probably would have noticed it was addressed to the list instead of the lady who asked the question. The worst part is, my fingers were flying all over the keyboard, and I don't know what combination of keys I hit! It's the second time today I've done this, and I need to figure it out or people will be banning me from their mailing lists.... Fred Hoffman

To: Barb <BLRomanc@sbcglobal.net> Hi, Back on July 28 you wrote me the following note: > I was also curious about my family name of Romanczuk. I found > the site to which you directed Rinny with the maps. It is fascinating. > Unfortunately, I don't know Polish although I am a French teacher. > Is there a way to find a translation of that page? I'm sorry I didn't answer sooner. I edit a number of publications, and frequently am on deadline when I receive requests for information. They pile up, and when I have a chance I try to answer them -- but I never really get caught up. ROMANCZUK in Polish can be spelled two different ways: with plain N, pronounced roughly "rome-ON-chook," or with accented N, pronounced roughly "ro-MINE-chook." While they mean essentially the same thing, "son of Roman," one is a lot more common in Poland than the other. You can see the maps on these pages: http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/romanczuk.html http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/roma%25C5%2584czuk.html As you see, the version with accented N

Good evening: I am planning to write to the archives in Minsk, Belarus to try and get more information on my great-grandfather this weekend. Must this letter be written in Belorussian or is English acceptable? Likewise, would I need to write in Polish if I wanted to contact the archives in Poland for other parts of my family? Thanks, Nick -- C/4C NICHOLAS PROSINSKI, AFROTC Delta Flight, Eagle Wing II, Detachment 610 nicholas.prosinski@und.nodak.edu nprosinski@gmail.com 406-696-0026

Nick, You can write to the archives in Poland in English. They will respond in Polish. I do not know about Belarus. Tina On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Nicholas Prosinski <nprosinski@gmail.com>wrote: > Good evening: > > I am planning to write to the archives in Minsk, Belarus to try and get > more > information on my great-grandfather this weekend. Must this letter be > written in Belorussian or is English acceptable? Likewise, would I need to > write in Polish if I wanted to contact the archives in Poland for other > parts of my family? > > Thanks, > > Nick > -- > C/4C NICHOLAS PROSINSKI, AFROTC > Delta Flight, Eagle Wing II, Detachment 610 > nicholas.prosinski@und.nodak.edu > nprosinski@gmail.com > 406-696-0026 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Cohens as always you have been a big help, Rinny ---- the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: > Rinny: > > http://evendon.com also has the 1928 Detroit city directory for free, > the closest search hits are for name Perzvk, but you might browse > the prior page images to see if any names ring a bell. I don't have a > good enough browser to check more myself. You could also see if they > got written as Perez. > > On 10/13/09, Cynthia Titello <cyntitello@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > I checked www.familysearch.org records pilot site for the brothers. They > > don't appear there as James or Lawrence. However, I didn't try an alternate > > spelling variant. But there are several other Perz families listed from > > Detroit, MI. .... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Cynthia, I'll try the family search, it's a puzzle to find your roots in Poland but this could be a lead. thanks again Rinny---- Cynthia Titello <cyntitello@yahoo.com> wrote: > Rinny: > > I checked www.familysearch.org records pilot site for the brothers.  They don't appear there as James or Lawrence.  However, I didn't try an alternate spelling variant.  But there are several other Perz families listed from Detroit, MI.  Maybe one of them will yield the info you seek. > If you aren't familiar with family search, let the list know and I'll copy the info into a message for you. > Cyndi > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:35:55 +0000 > From: <rinny1@new.rr.com> > Subject: [PBS] Michigan Perz's > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20091013203555.9FZE2.388099.root@hrndva-web19-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I'm searching for James or Lawrence Perz. They were listed in my gr-grandfathers obit,in 1934, as his brothers from Detroit,I've checked the census for Mich.(1930)with no luck. I'm hopeing someone with knowledge of the family will see this and respond. The brothers were from German occupied Poland, their brother John was born bet. 1850 and 1854. He immigrated in 1884 to Phil.,Pa. and moved to Wi.around 1890. Any Perz's from Mich who view this please contact me. Thanks very much,Rinny > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you earl for the information. Joseph --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Karl Roussin <kroussin@fidnet.com> wrote: From: Karl Roussin <kroussin@fidnet.com> Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 4:18 PM     To Joseph and Muriel ;     Take a look at the site http://members.cox.net/hessen/archives.htm     There are all kinds of military links in that above site , where You may be able to find something.     Karl Roussin =========================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim gambrel" <jgambrel@shaw.ca> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 >I am also searching for a soldier, who fought in the Franco-Prussian war in > 1870.  He was wounded in the leg (he may have lost his leg) because he was > A shoemaker before the war, and ended up being a prison guard.  His name > was > Carl Plohmann, from Konitz.  He was my great-grandfather. I will check the > LDS films now, but several years ago there were no records of soldiers > from > The Franco-Prussian war.  My grandfather told the story of how he went to > the prison with his father, and there was a prisoner there in chains, who > pleaded with the guard to undo the chains so he could scratch himself. > My g-grandfather did this, and let the prisoner scratch himself, and then > chained him again. This would have been c 1880. > > Muriel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ellis > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:31 AM > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 > > Have you checked the LDS microfilm?  For some areas they do have German > and > Austrian military records.  I don't know about mercenaries.  Records for > regular military were normally filed in the parish or civil registrar > office > for the area where they lived.  This is the URL for the LDS catalog: > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Joseph C Dorsey > <jcd622@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > >> Yes, all came to the U.S. in the early 1870's. I have posted on them >> before.  Since that time I found the marriage in the Poznan Project and >> obtained a copy of the parish register and found out it said he was a >> mercenary soldier and that got me to wondering about a list somewhere in >> Germany.  That would possibly say where he is from. >> >> >> --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Did any of hese people come to the US?  Please let us know where you >> obtained your information. >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Joseph C Dorsey <jcd622@sbcglobal.net >> >wrote: >> >> Is there any place to check  for names of German mercenary soldiers from >> Germany?  I thought if I could find my g. grandfather's name listed I > might >> be able to find out where he was from in Germany. >> >>  My g. grandfather, Augustinus Johann Reif, was born in Germany 03 Feb >>  1841.  He had sons Frank, b..in Aug, 1863, and Alexander b. in Dec 1867 > in >>   Germany.  His first wife must have died. >> >> > His is listed in a second marriage as a mercenary soldier, age 28, when >> he >> > married Maryanna Kapczynski, age 18, in the Catholic parish in > Miescisko, >> >  Poland, on 13 Nov1869. The record said he was living in the village of >> Raziska >> > or Rariska, which must be a misspelling in the Latin record. >> >>  Is there any chance that Germany listed their mercenary soldiers >> anywhere >> in 1869? >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm searching for James or Lawrence Perz. They were listed in my gr-grandfathers obit,in 1934, as his brothers from Detroit,I've checked the census for Mich.(1930)with no luck. I'm hopeing someone with knowledge of the family will see this and respond. The brothers were from German occupied Poland, their brother John was born bet. 1850 and 1854. He immigrated in 1884 to Phil.,Pa. and moved to Wi.around 1890. Any Perz's from Mich who view this please contact me. Thanks very much,Rinny

Thank you Karl -much appreciated. Muriel -----Original Message----- From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karl Roussin Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:46 PM To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 Muriel In the batch numbers , of Konitz , there is a record as follows; CARL JOHANN PLOHMANN Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 11 MAR 1843 Christening: 19 JUN 1843 Katholische Kirche, Konitz, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: ANTON PLOHMANN Family Mother: FRIEDERICKE LOEWERT This would make Him about 27 years old at the time of 1870 . I can't tell if this is Your G.Grandfather , however it is close. Karl Roussin ============================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim gambrel" <jgambrel@shaw.ca> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 >I am also searching for a soldier, who fought in the Franco-Prussian war in > 1870. He was wounded in the leg (he may have lost his leg) because he was > A shoemaker before the war, and ended up being a prison guard. His name > was > Carl Plohmann, from Konitz. He was my great-grandfather. I will check the > LDS films now, but several years ago there were no records of soldiers > from > The Franco-Prussian war. My grandfather told the story of how he went to > the prison with his father, and there was a prisoner there in chains, who > pleaded with the guard to undo the chains so he could scratch himself. > My g-grandfather did this, and let the prisoner scratch himself, and then > chained him again. This would have been c 1880. > > Muriel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ellis > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:31 AM > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 > > Have you checked the LDS microfilm? For some areas they do have German > and > Austrian military records. I don't know about mercenaries. Records for > regular military were normally filed in the parish or civil registrar > office > for the area where they lived. This is the URL for the LDS catalog: > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Joseph C Dorsey > <jcd622@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > >> Yes, all came to the U.S. in the early 1870's. I have posted on them >> before. Since that time I found the marriage in the Poznan Project and >> obtained a copy of the parish register and found out it said he was a >> mercenary soldier and that got me to wondering about a list somewhere in >> Germany. That would possibly say where he is from. >> >> >> --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Did any of hese people come to the US? Please let us know where you >> obtained your information. >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Joseph C Dorsey <jcd622@sbcglobal.net >> >wrote: >> >> Is there any place to check for names of German mercenary soldiers from >> Germany? I thought if I could find my g. grandfather's name listed I > might >> be able to find out where he was from in Germany. >> >> My g. grandfather, Augustinus Johann Reif, was born in Germany 03 Feb >> 1841. He had sons Frank, b..in Aug, 1863, and Alexander b. in Dec 1867 > in >> Germany. His first wife must have died. >> >> > His is listed in a second marriage as a mercenary soldier, age 28, when >> he >> > married Maryanna Kapczynski, age 18, in the Catholic parish in > Miescisko, >> > Poland, on 13 Nov1869. The record said he was living in the village of >> Raziska >> > or Rariska, which must be a misspelling in the Latin record. >> >> Is there any chance that Germany listed their mercenary soldiers >> anywhere >> in 1869? >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rinny: http://evendon.com also has the 1928 Detroit city directory for free, the closest search hits are for name Perzvk, but you might browse the prior page images to see if any names ring a bell. I don't have a good enough browser to check more myself. You could also see if they got written as Perez. On 10/13/09, Cynthia Titello <cyntitello@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I checked www.familysearch.org records pilot site for the brothers. They > don't appear there as James or Lawrence. However, I didn't try an alternate > spelling variant. But there are several other Perz families listed from > Detroit, MI. ....

Muriel In the batch numbers , of Konitz , there is a record as follows; CARL JOHANN PLOHMANN Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 11 MAR 1843 Christening: 19 JUN 1843 Katholische Kirche, Konitz, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: ANTON PLOHMANN Family Mother: FRIEDERICKE LOEWERT This would make Him about 27 years old at the time of 1870 . I can't tell if this is Your G.Grandfather , however it is close. Karl Roussin ============================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim gambrel" <jgambrel@shaw.ca> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 >I am also searching for a soldier, who fought in the Franco-Prussian war in > 1870. He was wounded in the leg (he may have lost his leg) because he was > A shoemaker before the war, and ended up being a prison guard. His name > was > Carl Plohmann, from Konitz. He was my great-grandfather. I will check the > LDS films now, but several years ago there were no records of soldiers > from > The Franco-Prussian war. My grandfather told the story of how he went to > the prison with his father, and there was a prisoner there in chains, who > pleaded with the guard to undo the chains so he could scratch himself. > My g-grandfather did this, and let the prisoner scratch himself, and then > chained him again. This would have been c 1880. > > Muriel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ellis > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:31 AM > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 > > Have you checked the LDS microfilm? For some areas they do have German > and > Austrian military records. I don't know about mercenaries. Records for > regular military were normally filed in the parish or civil registrar > office > for the area where they lived. This is the URL for the LDS catalog: > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Joseph C Dorsey > <jcd622@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > >> Yes, all came to the U.S. in the early 1870's. I have posted on them >> before. Since that time I found the marriage in the Poznan Project and >> obtained a copy of the parish register and found out it said he was a >> mercenary soldier and that got me to wondering about a list somewhere in >> Germany. That would possibly say where he is from. >> >> >> --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Did any of hese people come to the US? Please let us know where you >> obtained your information. >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Joseph C Dorsey <jcd622@sbcglobal.net >> >wrote: >> >> Is there any place to check for names of German mercenary soldiers from >> Germany? I thought if I could find my g. grandfather's name listed I > might >> be able to find out where he was from in Germany. >> >> My g. grandfather, Augustinus Johann Reif, was born in Germany 03 Feb >> 1841. He had sons Frank, b..in Aug, 1863, and Alexander b. in Dec 1867 > in >> Germany. His first wife must have died. >> >> > His is listed in a second marriage as a mercenary soldier, age 28, when >> he >> > married Maryanna Kapczynski, age 18, in the Catholic parish in > Miescisko, >> > Poland, on 13 Nov1869. The record said he was living in the village of >> Raziska >> > or Rariska, which must be a misspelling in the Latin record. >> >> Is there any chance that Germany listed their mercenary soldiers >> anywhere >> in 1869? >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Joseph and Muriel ; Take a look at the site http://members.cox.net/hessen/archives.htm There are all kinds of military links in that above site , where You may be able to find something. Karl Roussin =========================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim gambrel" <jgambrel@shaw.ca> To: <polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 >I am also searching for a soldier, who fought in the Franco-Prussian war in > 1870. He was wounded in the leg (he may have lost his leg) because he was > A shoemaker before the war, and ended up being a prison guard. His name > was > Carl Plohmann, from Konitz. He was my great-grandfather. I will check the > LDS films now, but several years ago there were no records of soldiers > from > The Franco-Prussian war. My grandfather told the story of how he went to > the prison with his father, and there was a prisoner there in chains, who > pleaded with the guard to undo the chains so he could scratch himself. > My g-grandfather did this, and let the prisoner scratch himself, and then > chained him again. This would have been c 1880. > > Muriel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ellis > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:31 AM > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 > > Have you checked the LDS microfilm? For some areas they do have German > and > Austrian military records. I don't know about mercenaries. Records for > regular military were normally filed in the parish or civil registrar > office > for the area where they lived. This is the URL for the LDS catalog: > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Joseph C Dorsey > <jcd622@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > >> Yes, all came to the U.S. in the early 1870's. I have posted on them >> before. Since that time I found the marriage in the Poznan Project and >> obtained a copy of the parish register and found out it said he was a >> mercenary soldier and that got me to wondering about a list somewhere in >> Germany. That would possibly say where he is from. >> >> >> --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Did any of hese people come to the US? Please let us know where you >> obtained your information. >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Joseph C Dorsey <jcd622@sbcglobal.net >> >wrote: >> >> Is there any place to check for names of German mercenary soldiers from >> Germany? I thought if I could find my g. grandfather's name listed I > might >> be able to find out where he was from in Germany. >> >> My g. grandfather, Augustinus Johann Reif, was born in Germany 03 Feb >> 1841. He had sons Frank, b..in Aug, 1863, and Alexander b. in Dec 1867 > in >> Germany. His first wife must have died. >> >> > His is listed in a second marriage as a mercenary soldier, age 28, when >> he >> > married Maryanna Kapczynski, age 18, in the Catholic parish in > Miescisko, >> > Poland, on 13 Nov1869. The record said he was living in the village of >> Raziska >> > or Rariska, which must be a misspelling in the Latin record. >> >> Is there any chance that Germany listed their mercenary soldiers >> anywhere >> in 1869? >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rinny: I checked www.familysearch.org records pilot site for the brothers.  They don't appear there as James or Lawrence.  However, I didn't try an alternate spelling variant.  But there are several other Perz families listed from Detroit, MI.  Maybe one of them will yield the info you seek. If you aren't familiar with family search, let the list know and I'll copy the info into a message for you. Cyndi ________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:35:55 +0000 From: <rinny1@new.rr.com> Subject: [PBS] Michigan Perz's To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20091013203555.9FZE2.388099.root@hrndva-web19-z01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I'm searching for James or Lawrence Perz. They were listed in my gr-grandfathers obit,in 1934, as his brothers from Detroit,I've checked the census for Mich.(1930)with no luck. I'm hopeing someone with knowledge of the family will see this and respond. The brothers were from German occupied Poland, their brother John was born bet. 1850 and 1854. He immigrated in 1884 to Phil.,Pa. and moved to Wi.around 1890. Any Perz's from Mich who view this please contact me. Thanks very much,Rinny ------------------------------

Hi Bronwyn and Tina: I was thinking that the birthplace might be in Belarus. The only things I have available to me right now are copies of the 1920 and 1930 Federal Censuses. There are a few family records that I have, but they have very little useful information and do not go beyond my great-grandfather. Like I said, in one of the censuses the birthplace was listed as Poland; the other listed it as Russia. The other family records also list both Russia and Poland as his birthplace. I do know that Belarus was once part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and was also a part of Russia for many years. At the time of his birth in 1884, it would have been the Russian Empire. However, the borders changed frequently and I can't pinpoint the exact site. Thank you for your input, Nick On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Bronwyn Klimach <bronklimach@gmail.com>wrote: > Nicholas, > You will need more information to trace your Jozefowo, a very popular > Polish > place name. I am familiar with a place still bearing this name to the > south > of Suwalki. I think you know that http://mapa.szukacz.pl/ gives about 30 > locations in Poland today. > http://www.jewishgen.org/communities/loctown.asp gives > more options to choose from around Eastern Europe, e.g. Belarus which Tina > has mentioned, Ukraine, etc. You really will need some more information to > know where to start looking for records for your family in Europe. Which > records have you already obtained? Many Church books have more information > than ends up on certificates and some kept wonderful registers of families > and where they had originated. > Kind regards, > Bronwyn. > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Nicholas Prosinski <nprosinski@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Hello everyone: > > > > My great-grandfather Leanord was from a town called Jozefowo. I've > learned > > that there are many towns that are named Jozefowo in present-day Poland, > > and > > most of them are located in the east. However, I am faced with a > dilemma. > > The census records in 1920 indicate that his place of birth was Poland. > > However, in the 1930 census, his birthplace was listed as being in > Russia. > > I know that the borders in that part of the world have changed greatly, > > especially considering that in 1920, Poland and Russia were at war. The > > question I have is this: are there places in Russia (or Belarus) that > > might > > have formerly been Jozefowo back in the day but have since been renamed? > > Is it also possible that my last name could have originally been Russian > > and > > then Polonized? > > > > Thanks in advance for your help, > > > > Nicholas Prosinski > > > > -- > > C/4C NICHOLAS PROSINSKI, AFROTC > > Delta Flight, Eagle Wing II, Detachment 610 > > nicholas.prosinski@und.nodak.edu > > nprosinski@gmail.com > > 406-696-0026 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- C/4C NICHOLAS PROSINSKI, AFROTC Delta Flight, Eagle Wing II, Detachment 610 nicholas.prosinski@und.nodak.edu nprosinski@gmail.com 406-696-0026

Have you tried he LDS microfilm for the parish where he lived? If not, try that. On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:54 AM, jim gambrel <jgambrel@shaw.ca> wrote: > I am also searching for a soldier, who fought in the Franco-Prussian war in > 1870. He was wounded in the leg (he may have lost his leg) because he was > A shoemaker before the war, and ended up being a prison guard. His name > was > Carl Plohmann, from Konitz. He was my great-grandfather. I will check the > LDS films now, but several years ago there were no records of soldiers > from > The Franco-Prussian war. My grandfather told the story of how he went to > the prison with his father, and there was a prisoner there in chains, who > pleaded with the guard to undo the chains so he could scratch himself. > My g-grandfather did this, and let the prisoner scratch himself, and then > chained him again. This would have been c 1880. > > Muriel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:polandbordersurnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ellis > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:31 AM > To: polandbordersurnames@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PBS] German Mercenary Soldiers in 1869 > > Have you checked the LDS microfilm? For some areas they do have German and > Austrian military records. I don't know about mercenaries. Records for > regular military were normally filed in the parish or civil registrar > office > for the area where they lived. This is the URL for the LDS catalog: > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Joseph C Dorsey > <jcd622@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > > > Yes, all came to the U.S. in the early 1870's. I have posted on them > > before. Since that time I found the marriage in the Poznan Project and > > obtained a copy of the parish register and found out it said he was a > > mercenary soldier and that got me to wondering about a list somewhere in > > Germany. That would possibly say where he is from. > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Tina Ellis <polska.research@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Did any of hese people come to the US? Please let us know where you > > obtained your information. > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Joseph C Dorsey <jcd622@sbcglobal.net > > >wrote: > > > > Is there any place to check for names of German mercenary soldiers from > > Germany? I thought if I could find my g. grandfather's name listed I > might > > be able to find out where he was from in Germany. > > > > My g. grandfather, Augustinus Johann Reif, was born in Germany 03 Feb > > 1841. He had sons Frank, b..in Aug, 1863, and Alexander b. in Dec 1867 > in > > Germany. His first wife must have died. > > > > > His is listed in a second marriage as a mercenary soldier, age 28, when > > he > > > married Maryanna Kapczynski, age 18, in the Catholic parish in > Miescisko, > > > Poland, on 13 Nov1869. The record said he was living in the village of > > Raziska > > > or Rariska, which must be a misspelling in the Latin record. > > > > Is there any chance that Germany listed their mercenary soldiers > anywhere > > in 1869? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLANDBORDERSURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >