Most lists don't allow attachments due to viruses and that sort of thing. However, you might put it on a blog, website, or a place like Flickr or Picassa. Then send the url in a message so that those who might be able to help can look at it. Cecelia My fault, I got this list confused with another one hosted at Yahoo. There's no way (that I know of) to upload an image here for others to view. You could try one of the free image hosting sites. >When I first wrote this email I tried to insert a copy of the record but it >sent it back saying it is not allowed to send images. So how do I upload >it >and not get it tossed back/ > > Sam > -- --- Chris Smolinski Black Cat Systems http://www.blackcatsystems.com