Hi Ruth, that is a very interesting point that you have raised. The only thing that we know is that she is supposed to have come from Poland. She certainly spoke Polish and her grand daughter, who was brought up by her grandmother) used to know a little Polish in her youth. She has forgotten most of it now. It is a great shame that Britain did not have any system similar to the Ellis Island entry records at that time. Maries eldest daughter is still alive but very frail and in a nursing home. It is from her that we have the suggestion that Marie originated from the Warsaw or Krakow area. All a bit vague I am afraid. Old peoples memories can often play tricks and not be quite accurate, but it is all we have to go on. The census records for 1920 might give more information about her origins but will not be available until 2021. We were banking on finding her in the incoming passenger lists in order to find out more information about her origins from the passenger manifest. So frustrating that neither Pam, myself, or those people on this list who have kindly looked, have found her. Typical of our bad luck if she is one of those anonymous servants. I am so grateful to all those folk who are trying to help with this. Regards, Chris

Chris, In reply to your statement: <<The census records for 1920 might give more information about her origins but will not be available until 2021>> Chris, is there anyway you can access the 1920 census by requesting a copy of the page of Marie from the government?. I am assuming that you do not live in the U.S. At this time the 1930 census is the last census that is open to the public in the U.S. In the U.S., you can request information for a fee for later census years that pertain to your family. http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/agesearch.html Also, have you tried to obtain an obituary for Marie? Could she have possibly written letters to relatives in Poland, or other places? If so, maybe these letters are in the hands of another relative? Did the town she live in have social columns written in the newspapers? Maybe there are a few social items listed in the newspapers when (if) any relatives had visited her from another country? To look through newspapers would be a huge task though. What about hospital records?. If she had cancer and she was in the hospital for some time, maybe her hospital file might shed some light on her birth. What about funeral records? Maybe the funeral home that took care of Marie has a record that listed her place of birth. Ruth Pokorny