John, Looking at the images you sent (lucky you - they are so clear!) I searched maps for some of the other villages mentioned: Samsieczno, Michalin, Teresin, Slesin and Elzbietowo. Teresin is west (and slightly south) of the city of Bydgoszcz: 53°01' N 16°30' E Samsieczno is west and north of the city of Bydgoszcz: 53°13' N 17°43' E Michalin is west and north of the city of Bydgoszcz: 53°13' N 17°42' E Elzbietowo is way east and south of the city of Bydgoszcz (east of Wl~ocl~awek on the Wisl~a river) IF this is the correct village. Slesin is west and north of the city of Bydgoszcz: 53°10' N 17°42' E Stanisl~aw Chrapkowski was born on October 6 but wasn't baptized until October 16. Note the 10 day spread. Marianna Chrapkowska was born on April 11 and baptized on April 13. Here's what I think. Either the family was visiting in Elzbietowo when the children were born and went back to their home parish in Slesin for baptizing or they were living in Elzbietowo when the children were born and went back to their home parish in Slesin for baptizing. It is also possible that Marianna's mother was Franciszek's first wife and her name was Mary. A check of the death records between Marianna and her brother, Stanisl~aw's birth dates should verify this. If a Marianna Chrapkowska did not die between these two children's births, then the priest probably made a mistake. BUT, maybe Marianna Sr. was buried in the parish closer to Elzbietowo and not Slesin! Marianna Sr. dying between the birth of Marianna Jr. and Stanisl~aw would account for Marianna jr. listing her mother as Katarzyna (step-mom) and Mary/Marianna Sr. (birth mother) on various records. See if you can locate marriage records for Franciszek Chrapkowski. The pages you sent didn't list any other births from Elzbietowo. If these Chrapkowski were the only babies born in Elzbietowo and baptized in Slesin then I'd say it's a case of the parents living somewhere else and wanting their kids baptized in the ancestral parish church. Debbie John Ruther wrote: > Debbie: I agree, things don't seem to add up. You asked, is it possible to > post the records. I'll need a bit more clarification in your question. Do > you want the LDS film record? Or do you want me to post the record page > containing Marianna's birth? > > I did not recheck the cover. The film covers Slesin from 1840 to 1886 and I > was merrrily plowing through each page of baptisms, burials and marriages > for hours when lo and behold, up pops Grandpa and Grandma in 1856. I kinda > knew they would be there since I had previously gotten the information on > the Poznan Project site, but I was looking for all Chrapkowski and Borzych > names and kind of hoping to find my Gawinskis too. > > Well, long story short, after 1856 Franciszek and Katarzyna's children begin > to appear, where they should, Slesin. Now I knew I was close to finding my > Marianna and when she appeared I was confused because the town was > Elzbietowo. > > I also thought, maybe this isn't my Great Grandmother because it said her > parens were Franciszek and Mary, not Katarzyna. However, I have records from > Nebraska where Katarzyna is referred to as Catharina and as Mary, so I kept > going and I said to myself, okay, the next person should be Stanislaus and > presto, here comes Stan and he is born in Elzbietowo, and so was Francisca. > I was at the LDS and came home to find out just where this Elzbietowo is > located, thinking it must be near the four villages from which this whole > family seems to have congregated, but no, it was down river on the road to > Plock and I am confused as to why they are reported there and why the record > shows up in the Elzbietowo books; but, thank God they do. > > John >