Hi, Karen. Some of my ancestors lived in a Polish town called Chrostkowo. Maybe that's the Chostkow in that Canadian marriage record you referred to. Michael Wawrzynski New York, NY -----Original Message----- From: poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Prytula Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:37 PM To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POLAND] GLADYSZ - Does anyone have this surname intheir family tree? Thank you Marie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJDallas" <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] GLADYSZ - Does anyone have this surname in their family tree? Karen Prytula wrote: > Maybe you can help me a wee bit further...another place name on John > Gladsyz's Canadian marriage record, is CHOWSTKOW... Karen, One thing I've learned after 19 years of researching my ancestry is that I'm pretty convinced that clerks wrote down the verbal replies given to them to the questions asked on the forms and likely didn't ask how to spell anything. My ancestors were educated and literate, yet many of the spellings for surnames and place names on U.S. records were wrong. Most of the spelling errors were phonetic spellings based on the English alphabet - something that my immigrant ancestors wouldn't have done when spelling words native to the Polish language. To me, "CHOWSTKOW" actually looks like a combination of a phonetic spelling and a mis-spelling of Czortków. The Polish CZ is pronounced like the English CH. I wouldn't treat it as a separate location, yet, unless you uncover evidence to support that possibility. Thanks so much for the kind offer to help me with research in the Ottawa area, but I don't have any ancestors who settled in Canada. -Marie ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This one will be tough. Remember how I told you I how I didn't know how to send pix from my camera card, so didn't know how it would turn out? Well, apparently, I still don't know how ! ! ! I've put the card back in the camera now and the camera is in the car. By the time the weekend is over, I'll try to sort them out again. I have some 200 pictures on that card ! G'night for now ! Did you call the Orkin man yet? Are you ready to ship Jerry out of state again? Me From: "mw23522" <mw23522@nyc.rr.com> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] GLADYSZ - Does anyone have this surname intheir familytree? Hi, Karen. Some of my ancestors lived in a Polish town called Chrostkowo. Maybe that's the Chostkow in that Canadian marriage record you referred to. Michael Wawrzynski New York, NY -----Original Message----- From: poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Prytula Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:37 PM To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POLAND] GLADYSZ - Does anyone have this surname intheir family tree? Thank you Marie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJDallas" <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] GLADYSZ - Does anyone have this surname in their family tree? Karen Prytula wrote: > Maybe you can help me a wee bit further...another place name on John > Gladsyz's Canadian marriage record, is CHOWSTKOW... Karen, One thing I've learned after 19 years of researching my ancestry is that I'm pretty convinced that clerks wrote down the verbal replies given to them to the questions asked on the forms and likely didn't ask how to spell anything. My ancestors were educated and literate, yet many of the spellings for surnames and place names on U.S. records were wrong. Most of the spelling errors were phonetic spellings based on the English alphabet - something that my immigrant ancestors wouldn't have done when spelling words native to the Polish language. To me, "CHOWSTKOW" actually looks like a combination of a phonetic spelling and a mis-spelling of Czortków. The Polish CZ is pronounced like the English CH. I wouldn't treat it as a separate location, yet, unless you uncover evidence to support that possibility. Thanks so much for the kind offer to help me with research in the Ottawa area, but I don't have any ancestors who settled in Canada. -Marie ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael Thank you for your input. What you have told me (below) seems quite close and quite logical. In your opinion would Chrostkowo be close to a place called Crotkow, or, in your opinion, do you think they would be two names referring to the same place/village/town? ( I ask about Crotkow because that is where John Gladysz claimed to be from on the marriage record, his wife Maria Koszyl claimed to be from Chrowstkow). I am just trying to determine if they were from the same place or from different places, that could have been close together. They didn't marry there, they only married when they came to Canada, and so far I can find no evidence that they even knew each other until they came to Canada. They married in Canada in 1914. I was hoping that by finding out the towns they originated from I might be able to find out if there families knew one another in the old country. Does anyone know if arranged marriages were still prevalent in the 1914 time frame? My family can't find Maria Koszyl or John Gladysz on any passenger list, or on any other record in Canada until their 1914 marriage record. Our families know nothing of their previous lives in Poland/Austria, so we are sort of stumped as to how they got here, and why they came here. One cousin of mine, suggested that maybe they came here as part of a church group? I'm curious to find out if anyone has had their ancestors come to Canada as part of a church group? Any suggestions will be considered. And by the way...I would like to thank everyone who has made an effort to help me out on these place names. Since I am a newbie to Polish history/genealogy, I am learning something everyday, thanks to all of you. I see in my inbox many responses to my questions and I will answer each of you. It probably just won't be tonight! Thanks again everyone... Karen Prytula ----- Original Message ----- From: "mw23522" <mw23522@nyc.rr.com> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] GLADYSZ - Does anyone have this surname intheir familytree? Hi, Karen. Some of my ancestors lived in a Polish town called Chrostkowo. Maybe that's the Chostkow in that Canadian marriage record you referred to. Michael Wawrzynski New York, NY -----Original Message----- From: poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Prytula Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:37 PM To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POLAND] GLADYSZ - Does anyone have this surname intheir family tree? Thank you Marie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJDallas" <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] GLADYSZ - Does anyone have this surname in their family tree? Karen Prytula wrote: > Maybe you can help me a wee bit further...another place name on John > Gladsyz's Canadian marriage record, is CHOWSTKOW... Karen, One thing I've learned after 19 years of researching my ancestry is that I'm pretty convinced that clerks wrote down the verbal replies given to them to the questions asked on the forms and likely didn't ask how to spell anything. My ancestors were educated and literate, yet many of the spellings for surnames and place names on U.S. records were wrong. Most of the spelling errors were phonetic spellings based on the English alphabet - something that my immigrant ancestors wouldn't have done when spelling words native to the Polish language. To me, "CHOWSTKOW" actually looks like a combination of a phonetic spelling and a mis-spelling of Czortków. The Polish CZ is pronounced like the English CH. I wouldn't treat it as a separate location, yet, unless you uncover evidence to support that possibility. Thanks so much for the kind offer to help me with research in the Ottawa area, but I don't have any ancestors who settled in Canada. -Marie ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? 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