Debbie, Thank you for the information on Graudenz. I do not have the document at the moment. As I stated I wrote down what was on the seal. Is it save to say that each church had it's own seal back then? (late 1800's). That is the way I have been going. When I first started looking, a lady at the LDS center said try looking at the non Catholic films first as they are the shortest. Then work my way thru the Catholic ones. The first catholic films I looked at were stated as Bydgoszcz- Graudenz. All the records had a different seal on them. It looked like they were all from one church. There were only a few hundred pages on those films. The LDS center here does not fill in a title only a number. I think I should start filling in a film title on the receipts. The last two films were 161723 and 72005. The one I have ordered now is the 1618635 as you mentioned. Also a 71320. Again I do not have titles on these film receipts. Sam **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)