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    1. Re: [POLAND] maiden names Baranowski
    2. Debbie Greenlee
    3. Tiffany, The Mazurian (Turosl, L~omz~a) area is not near Poznan. Turosl is in northeast Poland while Poznan is in west (west of Warsaw) Poland. These areas were even ruled by different countries during the partitions. The best way to trace your family is to request records from Poland (better yet, rent the films from LDS, if available). If I were you I'd start by requesting the church death record of Piotr Baranowski from the parish. At the same time I'd ask for his baptismal/birth record. Once you receive those documents you can work backwards to see where the line goes. It's possible your family is connected to the hotel however, Baranowski is a very common surname (25,544) in Poland: http://www.herby.com.pl/ Once you get some family history you can start on the hotel's history and see where that leads. Debbie Tiffany Parsons wrote: > My Grandmother's maiden name was Baranowski. But I only know she was > born in Turosl ... in the Masurian Lakes region. this would be close > to Poznan, but in the Lomza region for her. I know her Father's name > was Piotr Baranowski, born in 1876 and dies in 1950 and I am told is > burried in Turosl so I assume that's where he came from, but that's > as far as I go back. Grandma came to the US as a teenager in 1935 > after marrying Stanislaw Bognacki who was born in the US but raised > and was from the same area in Poland. > > I know there is a big hotel, Hotel Baranowski in the Lakes region. I > doubt this is any relation of ours ... in my family they were all > farmers with no means to speak of and a lot of children. > > There is a large group of Baranowskis in Connecticut, but also not > any recent (if any at all) relation of to me and mine. > > Please let me know if this rings any bells for you. I know Grandma > had a lot of brothers and sisters, including one sister who is still > living (in Vegas I think). I would be very interesting in knowing > anything about the Baranowski's that you find ... with all those > children, who knows! We are probably all related! > Tiffany >

    07/22/2008 01:49:03
    1. [POLAND] Using "Herby" to find the Migdal family
    2. Alan J. Kania
    3. Using the www.herby.com site for distribution of surnames prompts a "curiosity" question on my part. I'm primarily search two family surnames (and anyone else that surfaces to the top) in the area south of Bielsko-Biala (Buczkowice and Lodygowice valley). I know that KANIA is the ninth most common name in Poland and one of the primary areas the surname is found is in the Bielsko-Biala area of Poland. So far so good. According to "Herby" -- "BB" has 1,464 occurrences of KANIA out of 22,434. There is one occurrence of Kaniaburka in that area (obviously a Kania converted to the Muslim faith -- only joking). The other once prominent surname I am searching is MIGDAL. Even though the surname does have Hebrew origins to it, I've been able to trace that family back to the mid 1700s in the Lodygowice area and they were definitely Roman Catholic in my family through that period. My curiosity question stems from "Herby". Even though the MIGDAL family were prominent land owners in the valley, there are NO Migdals that show up on "Herby." Only one occurrence in the Bielsko-Biala for MIGDALEK, one for MIGDALEWICZ and thirteen for MIGDALSKI. In the church records, the MIGDAL name (just as the KANIA name) remains that way without any alteration. The same is indicated by the gravestones in the Buczkowice cemetery -- KANIA is KANIA and MIGDAL is MIGDAL. What happened to the MIGDALs? -- Alan

    07/22/2008 01:16:20
    1. Re: [POLAND] Using "Herby" to find the Migdal family
    2. Fred Hoffman
    3. Hi, Alan Kania <ajkania@comcast.net> wrote: > The other once prominent surname I am searching is MIGDAL. Even though > the surname does have Hebrew origins to it, I've been able to trace > that family back to the mid 1700s in the Lodygowice area and they were > definitely Roman Catholic in my family through that period. My > curiosity question stems from "Herby". Even though the MIGDAL family > were prominent land owners in the valley, there are NO Migdals that > show up on "Herby." Only one occurrence in the Bielsko-Biala for > MIGDALEK, one for MIGDALEWICZ and thirteen for MIGDALSKI. > > In the church records, the MIGDAL name (just as the KANIA name) > remains that way without any alteration. The same is indicated by the > gravestones in the Buczkowice cemetery -- KANIA is KANIA and MIGDAL is > MIGDAL. > > What happened to the MIGDALs? I don't understand, Alan. When I search for MIGDA? on the Herby site (using the wild card ? so as to match plain L and slash-L), I find 178 Polish citizens named MIGDAL, and 2,783 named MIGDAL with slash-L: Migdal 178 Wa:14, BP:3, Cz:1, Gd:1, Go:7, Ka:12, Lu:56, Ld:31, Ol:4, Pt:11, Pr:7, Ra:4, Sr:14, Sz:2, Ta:1, Wl:2, Wr:3, ZG:5 Migdal 2783 Wa:107, BB:251, By:30, Ch:1, Ci:5, Cz:124, El:2, Gd:52, Go:59, JG:61, Kl:28, Ka:210, Ki:68, Kn:56, Ko:7, Kr:404, Ks:4, Lg:45, Ls:8, Lu:12, Ld:68, NS:13, Ol:22, Op:77, Os:6, Pl:17, Pt:36, Pl:1, Po:54, Pr:8, Ra:51, Sr:15, Sk:16, Sl:11, Su:11, Sz:72, Tb:8, Ta:531, To:15, Wb:55, Wl:2, Wr:72, Za:8, ZG:80 It appears to me the Migdals are right where they should be. Did I misunderstand your question? Incidentally, you can get more accurate and more recent data (2002) on MIGDAL with plain L here: http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/migdal.html And 2002 data on the far more common form with slash-L is here: http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/migda%25C5%2582.html I hope this clarifies things a little. Or if I misunderstood your question, tell me so. Fred Hoffman

    07/22/2008 04:39:40
    1. Re: [POLAND] Using "Herby" to find the Migdal family
    2. Roman
    3. Alan, I get the same results as Fred obtained. And you only need to enter "Migda", no wild cards, in order to get all answers with that initial sequence of characters. As expected, the actual spelling is most likely MIGDAƁ since that is a known word in Polish, namely, "Almond". Roman Fred Hoffman wrote: > Hi, > > Alan Kania <ajkania@comcast.net> wrote: > >> The other once prominent surname I am searching is MIGDAL. Even though >> the surname does have Hebrew origins to it, I've been able to trace >> that family back to the mid 1700s in the Lodygowice area and they were >> definitely Roman Catholic in my family through that period. My >> curiosity question stems from "Herby". Even though the MIGDAL family >> were prominent land owners in the valley, there are NO Migdals that >> show up on "Herby." Only one occurrence in the Bielsko-Biala for >> MIGDALEK, one for MIGDALEWICZ and thirteen for MIGDALSKI. >> >> In the church records, the MIGDAL name (just as the KANIA name) >> remains that way without any alteration. The same is indicated by the >> gravestones in the Buczkowice cemetery -- KANIA is KANIA and MIGDAL is >> MIGDAL. >> >> What happened to the MIGDALs? > > I don't understand, Alan. When I search for MIGDA? on the Herby site (using the wild card ? so as to match plain L and slash-L), I find 178 Polish citizens named MIGDAL, and 2,783 named MIGDAL with slash-L: >

    07/22/2008 08:03:10
    1. Re: [POLAND] Using "Herby" to find the Migdal family
    2. Val
    3. Hi, Please help me find Herby. When I try www.herby.com the site changes to http://www.herby.com/handcrafted2.asp I don't see anything about searching for surnames or genealogy. The following are the links at that page. CHRISTIAN DATING CHRISTIAN PEN PAL CHRISTIAN CHAT CHRISTIAN MATCHMAKERS FRIEND FINDER PERSONAL ADS ROMANTIC GIFT IDEAS Val On 22 Jul 2008 at 7:16, Alan J. Kania <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Using the www.herby.com site for distribution of surnames prompts a > "curiosity" question on my part. I'm primarily search two family > surnames (and anyone else that surfaces to the top) in the area south > of Bielsko-Biala (Buczkowice and Lodygowice valley). I know that KANIA > is the ninth most common name in Poland and one of the primary areas > the surname is found is in the Bielsko-Biala area of Poland. So far so > good. According to "Herby" -- "BB" has 1,464 occurrences of KANIA out > of 22,434. There is one occurrence of Kaniaburka in that area > (obviously a Kania converted to the Muslim faith -- only joking). > > The other once prominent surname I am searching is MIGDAL. Even though > the surname does have Hebrew origins to it, I've been able to trace > that family back to the mid 1700s in the Lodygowice area and they were > definitely Roman Catholic in my family through that period. My > curiosity question stems from "Herby". Even though the MIGDAL family > were prominent land owners in the valley, there are NO Migdals that > show up on "Herby." Only one occurrence in the Bielsko-Biala for > MIGDALEK, one for MIGDALEWICZ and thirteen for MIGDALSKI. > > In the church records, the MIGDAL name (just as the KANIA name) > remains that way without any alteration. The same is indicated by the > gravestones in the Buczkowice cemetery -- KANIA is KANIA and MIGDAL is > MIGDAL. > > What happened to the MIGDALs? > > -- Alan > > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this > list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the > list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/22/2008 01:36:17