I received a question from a man who is researching some Milwaukee Polish families (Semrau, Plinski, Nalepinski). Does anyone have any information to help him? "Have you heard of some type of guest worker program for Poles in France in the mid to late 1800s. There is an old family tradition that my Semrau family had children born in France. I have read brief reports that allude to the fact that the Poles aided the French against Prussia and/or Russia in the early 1800s so a mutual French - Polish bond was created evidently." Karen

Karen, Your friend might consider joining the Polish Genealogical Society of Wisconsin. The last information I have is: Polish Genealogical Society of Wisconsin P.O. Box 764, Hales Coners, WI 53130-0764 Publication: Newsletter (Quarterly Newsletter) I have no idea whether this address is still good however. There is no web site for the group at this time. There is also a Milwaukee County Genealogical Society. While not Polish, I'm sure they'd be good for general records' information. http://www.milwaukeegenealogy.org/audio.html This may be a starting point for your second question: http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/saar.htm Debbie karen duffy wrote: > I received a question from a man who is researching some Milwaukee Polish families (Semrau, Plinski, Nalepinski). Does anyone have any information to help him? > > "Have you heard of some type of guest worker program for Poles in France in the mid to late 1800s. There is an old family tradition that my Semrau family had children born in France. I have read brief reports that allude to the fact that the Poles aided the French against Prussia and/or Russia in the early 1800s so a mutual French - Polish bond was created evidently." > > Karen >

Unfortunately, the PGSW is defunct. He has a great deal of genealogical information, but he is trying to round out the historical information to add context to a family history book he is writing. I don't know any information about the French-Polish connection, but I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who might have ideas so I can pass it along. His Milwaukee focus is between 1868-1882. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Greenlee" <daveg@airmail.net> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] Polish-French connection > Karen, > > Your friend might consider joining the Polish Genealogical Society of > Wisconsin. > > The last information I have is: > > Polish Genealogical Society of Wisconsin > P.O. Box 764, Hales Coners, WI 53130-0764 > Publication: Newsletter (Quarterly Newsletter) > > I have no idea whether this address is still good however. > There is no web site for the group at this time. > > There is also a Milwaukee County Genealogical Society. While not > Polish, I'm sure they'd be good for general records' information. > http://www.milwaukeegenealogy.org/audio.html > > This may be a starting point for your second question: > > http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/saar.htm > > Debbie > > > karen duffy wrote: > > I received a question from a man who is researching some Milwaukee Polish families (Semrau, Plinski, Nalepinski). Does anyone have any information to help him? > > > > "Have you heard of some type of guest worker program for Poles in France in the mid to late 1800s. There is an old family tradition that my Semrau family had children born in France. I have read brief reports that allude to the fact that the Poles aided the French against Prussia and/or Russia in the early 1800s so a mutual French - Polish bond was created evidently." > > > > Karen > > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 6:55 AM > >

Karen: France was an emigration destination for Poles in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries just like North America and South America. The reason was the same i.e. to find work. Ordinary Poles concentrated in the coal-mining region of north-eastern France where they found work, just like they did in the coal mines of Pennsylvania and West Virginia or Quebec, Ontario and British Columbia. As I recall, the Communist President of Poland in the 1970s, Edward Gierek, was born in France and was an émigré who had returned to Poland. There was also a close aristocratic connection between France and Poland dating back to the 17th century, as France had always tried to obtain Poland-Lithuania support against its traditional enemy, Habsburg Austria. Louis XV of France married Maria, a daughter of Stanisław Leszczyński who had also been briefly King of Poland during the period of the Great Northern War in the early 18th century and was a candidate for King, backed by France and Sweden against a Saxon rival in the War of the Polish Succession, 1733-35. Large numbers of Poles fought for Napoleon during the Napoleonic wars, especially in the campaigns against the partitioning powers Prussia, Austria and Russia. The famous Polish Legions were formed under Napoleon in 1797. After the Polish rebellion of 1830-31 persecuted Polish gentry and nobles, as well as academics, fled mainly to Paris. Here is a quote: "The defeat sent some 10,000 uprising leaders and participants into exile. They went, primarily, to France. Poets Adam Mickiewicz and Juliusz Slowacki settled in Paris, where they continued their writing. Composer Frederyk Chopin and historian Joachim Lelewel also went to Paris." from this source, http://www.poloniatoday.com/history9.htm. Wikipedia also has some information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonia (check the France link). There is nothing the immigration in the late 19th century from Poland however. I provide these brief examples to demonstrate there certainly was a close French-Polish historical connection. Lindy Kasperski Regina, SK -----Original Message----- From: poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of karen duffy Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:23 AM To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POLAND] Polish-French connection Unfortunately, the PGSW is defunct. He has a great deal of genealogical information, but he is trying to round out the historical information to add context to a family history book he is writing. I don't know any information about the French-Polish connection, but I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who might have ideas so I can pass it along. His Milwaukee focus is between 1868-1882. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Greenlee" <daveg@airmail.net> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] Polish-French connection > Karen, > > Your friend might consider joining the Polish Genealogical Society of > Wisconsin. > > The last information I have is: > > Polish Genealogical Society of Wisconsin > P.O. Box 764, Hales Coners, WI 53130-0764 > Publication: Newsletter (Quarterly Newsletter) > > I have no idea whether this address is still good however. There is no > web site for the group at this time. > > There is also a Milwaukee County Genealogical Society. While not > Polish, I'm sure they'd be good for general records' information. > http://www.milwaukeegenealogy.org/audio.html > > This may be a starting point for your second question: > > http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/saar.htm > > Debbie > > > karen duffy wrote: > > I received a question from a man who is researching some Milwaukee Polish families (Semrau, Plinski, Nalepinski). Does anyone have any information to help him? > > > > "Have you heard of some type of guest worker program for Poles in > > France in the mid to late 1800s. There is an old family tradition that my Semrau family had children born in France. I have read brief reports that allude to the fact that the Poles aided the French against Prussia and/or Russia in the early 1800s so a mutual French - Polish bond was created evidently." > > > > Karen > > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 6:55 AM > > ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message