---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: marie yeager <[email protected]> Date: Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] Possibly off topic, Balbern To: [email protected] Thanks Debbie, And thanks PD, > Marie: Well, it appears he was in "sniffin' distance" between 1900 and > 1904. Unless she went to NYC/Long Island to work as a maid, I would start in > PA. Philly indexes are online at LDS (if my brain hasn't been freeze dried). > Someone with expertise in Chester will have to advise for there. > I agree, that some how between 1900 and 1904 there should be something on this couple. I have yet to find it, and have not yet been able to locate anything on via lds as aside from a marriage in 1904 of which i have no idea of the local I am spinning my wheels there. I have an email in to the Presbyterian church closest to the 1900 residence. It appears to be an old parish, and as Caroline (my GG grandmother was married in a presbyterian church in Glasgow figure it may help to determine exactly when the family left for Philadelphia.) Caroline was in Philly by 1910, and Annabelle was by this time in Nassau County New York married to andrew with children. > > There are also missing children: 1910 says married 6 years and she had 3 > children, two living (Caroline & Anna M) so---who was missing child and > where is Anna in 1920? > Children listed are all born on Long Island. > In an attempt to simplify this a little, Andrew Hoffman and Annabelle Dougherty were my Great Grandparents. My grandmother passed away almost 6 months ago leaving us with little to go on. Caroline and Anna M listed on the 1910 census were her sisters. 1920 will reflect a Viola and Andrew. As to the missing child on the 1910 census I have no clue, and she/he had never been mentione to my knowldege. They had all passed away some years ago my grandmother was the youngest child in the family and Supposedly named after her deceased sister Anna (reflected on the 1910 census.) This family has a very strange history, I have no clue as to how to keep it simple but will try. Anna M listed in the 1910 census died as a child. I anticipate between 1910 and 1915 as she is on the 1910 census but not on andrews 1915 naturalization papers. I have an email out to the clerks office in the area as to the possible locations of the death documents for that period as the families exact location although within about 10 miles falls within mulitple municipalities. Add to the confusion, Viola can be found in the 1930 census (although the rest of the family is lost in 1930) "married" to Fred Dougherty in the Philly area. Yep, confusing but true. > > You've done well to get them from 1920 back to 1900. I would search Andrew > in Long Island 1900 or Philly/Chester. > I have an email out to the parish closest to the 1900 residence, I am hoping they can direct me in the correct direction. I agree that it will be in PA that I find Andrew met Annabelle. I do believe Andrew was Lutheran, however it seems there was no strict practice of religion in the family. > > WWI Draft listing is no help, but you are aware that the Rotterdam (look > under Holland in LDS)emigration lists give place of origin or at least where > the ticket was sold??? Check the LDS database for the years and film > numbers, unless they have put them online. There was some talk about them > being digitized. > Thanks for the tip. That I was unaware of, and will check into promptly. > And if you don't have it already, Annabelle's birth record should be > relatively easy to get using Free BMD since you have her month and year of > birth. > Annabelle according to Andrews Naturalization papers was born in Newcastle England. As I only recieved his papers two weeks ago, I have been searching for this since. I do on the other hand have her mother Carolines Scottish line documented in parish records back to the 1700's. But that family is another story and as it is not polish, will let it alone for now. Thanks All for the suggestions and direction. Marie -- Marie A. Yeager Sales Pelican Marine Center Inc.