I'm wondering if I could find my grandfather Joseph Jastrzembski's family info in the Koziki/Sniadowo area thru land records. It is my understanding that my great-grandparents George and Josephine Konopka Jastrzembski owned land. As told to me by my uncle now deceased, sometime around 1930, my uncle received legal papers that he was the next legal (male) heir to this land. But his mother advised that since noone would be going back to Poland, he should relinquish the rights of the land to his aunts that still lived in Poland (my grandfather's sisters). My uncle remembered the lawyers that were used in the US but we checked with them and they didn't have any records from so long ago. I'm realizing now that this legal notice probably happened because this is when my great grandfather died. And perhaps another way to find the sisters.Any suggestions on finding land records? Thank you for any help, comments or even other ideas this may spark.mick > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:55:52 -0400 > Subject: [POLAND] Koziki Poland/Sniadowo parish/census records > > > Hi all - back to looking for info on my grandfather Joseph Jastrzembski again. > After determining that "my" Koziki is a village of the Sniadowo gmina and Sniadowo parish, I was extremely fortunate to have a Polish speaking person contact the Sniadowo parish. Unfortunately the parish doesn't have any 19th century records due to the church's fire during the war (my search years were 1884-1888). Then he called the Lomza civil archives which have some records from Śniadowo or Koziki but unluckily they're dated after 1890 (after my grandfather's birth range). > First question, would there be another place to look for his birth record other than the local parish or the local civil archives? > Then, I thought I could try to confirm that the family did live there in hopes to eventually find out what happened to them. I was told the Lomza archives website (http://www.bialystok.ap.gov.pl/lomza/index.html) indicates it has the census files Sniadowo 1901 - 37. (I had help as this website is only in Polish). I was told they will answer letters in English so I took a try at an email in English. (The only info I have is the parents names, the sisters' possible names and the village name - I don't know what is required.) > In the meantime, I was trying to understand more about Polish census records. First I read that the only general census records for that region were:(Russian Partition) 1897 General census of population in the Congress Kingdom of Poland (only one carried in that area until WW I)(Poland) 1921 First General Census of Population post WW I Poland; then in 1931Then I read a 2005 post by Debbie Greenlee about an annual census by the parish which I'm assuming might be what the Lomza archives has (based on the dates it gives).http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/POLAND-ROOTS/2005-08/1125501292 > > Does anyone have experience with census records in this area of Poland from either the parish or one of the general census mentioned? > Thanks so much!!!mick > > > > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: FW: [POLAND] Koziki Poland in Russian Partition? > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:40:23 -0400 > > > > > > > > > Debbie is having trouble posting and asked me to post her reply so others can learn too. Here it is!Thanks again Debbie! > > > > > Mick, > > > > You've got it! Good for you for looking up that information. > > A gmina is sort of like U.S. counties. Civil vital records are held > > there. Knowing the gmina and old woj. goes a long way in determining > > (and keeping straight) which village is "yours." > > > > Thanks for the site too! I wasn't aware of it. > > > > By the way, following the instructions on the web site you listed, go > > to http://mapa.szukacz.pl/ > > click on the "X" on the pop-up add for a book, and then type Koziki in > > the blank. > > > > When the selections come up click on "Wybierz" for the first Koziki > > (population 233 people). > > After the new map appears, click on Zdjecie SAT at the top right > > corner of the map. It's satellite. You may be able to go in a little > > further. Small village. > > > > Debbie > > > > > > Mrs. MICK wrote: > > > > Debbie, > > > > I appreciate the time you take to assist in my research and I > > want to correctly absorb the info you send me. This morning I had to > > look up the definitions of gmina, powiat, and woj. to properly > > understand them. So...... > > > > Sniadowo is a rural gmina that also contains the village of Sniadowo. > > > > And I looking for the village of Koziki, in the gmina of > > Sniadowo, in the powiat of Lomza, in the voivodeship of Lomza > > (currently Podlaskie). > > > > If I didn't understand this correctly, please let me know. > > > > > > > > Also, I used the website below to help understood how to use the > > map of Poland - it has English translations. Fun to zoom in on the > > villages and get another visual that brings life to the research!!! > > > > http://nancy.polishsite.us/PilotInstrfr.htm > > > > > > > > Thank you for your help! > > > > mick > > > > > > > > >> >> There are two S~niadowo in Poland and both are in northern Poland. > > >> >> One is in L~omz~a powiat. S~niadowo is also a gmina. > > >> >> http://tinyurl.com/6hrhk4h > > >> >> > > >> >> Koziki is very close to S~niadowo in old woj. L~omz~a. > > >> >> > > http://mapa.szukacz.pl/?&n=53.096489&e=22.040943&z=48m&typ=n&m=Koziki&poi=hotel&t= > > >> >> > > > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? 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