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    1. [POLAND] Czub siblings
    2. Mrs. MICK
    3. Hello everyone, My family research unfortunately has been on hold for the last year or so. But a few things surfaced so I appreciate any help or suggestions how I might identify siblings, and also how I might best determine if they are full, half or step siblings. I'm sure this is no easy task!!!Here's what I have:My mother was told that Salomea Sarnik (her grandmother), Jan/John Czub, and Antoni Czub were siblings. - Salomea Czub Sarnik. born 1876 arrived 5/4/1909 lived in Mass, RI, and in Utica NY where daughters got married and returned to Poland in early 1920s. This is my great grandmother. Father is Michael Czub, mother is Catherine Nowak. Ship record lists she is from Delastowice. - John Czub. born 7/22/1880 arrived 4/2/1907 settled in Chicago Cook County Ill and naturalized there 6/26/1919. No records yet with names for John's mother or father to confirm he is Salomea's brother. Ship record lists he is from Szczucin. My mother never met his family but her mother said the Czubs in Chicago were cousins. - Antoni Czub. born 3/21/1893 arrived 5/12/1912 lived in RI, Mass, and in Frankfort/Herkimer NY from mid 1920s forward, naturalized 1912 (?? from 1930 census). Father's name is Michael Czub (from ship record). Ship record lists he is from Delastowice. Ship record lists relative he is going to as Salomea Sarnik, his step-sister. My mother knew Antoni and called him uncle. My first question: I would like to confirm the actual relationships of these relatives, especially Antoni and Salomea since we recently met the grandchildren on Antoni. The same father's name (Michael) and town are listed on ship records but Antoni's ship record lists Salomea as a step-sister. My mother and her siblings never heard reference of a 'step' relationship. There is a 17 year age difference between Salomea and Antoni so maybe they are half-siblings sharing the same father or children from 2 prior marriages? How would I verify the actual relationships between Salomea, John and Antoni? Secondly. As I was searching names, there are ship records for other Czubs from Delastowice. If the ship records don't indicate a common relative, how might I determine if they are related? Examples. Karolina Czub arriving 1902, Piotr Czub arriving 1909. Goodness. I appreciate any help or suggestions. Thank you so very much!

    03/16/2011 05:42:21
    1. Re: [POLAND] Czub siblings
    2. Debbie Greenlee
    3. Mrs. Mick, The way to prove if and how people are related is through baptism and marriage records. You will probably need to locate these records at the parishes in Poland. Did you check Shtetlseeker for Delastowice? It's listed. http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp Once you pinpoint it on the map you'll see that Szczucin is located nearby. Delastowice has its own parish. Debbie Mrs. MICK wrote: > Hello everyone, My family research unfortunately has been on hold for the last year or so. But a few things surfaced so I appreciate any help or suggestions how I might identify siblings, and also how I might best determine if they are full, half or step siblings. I'm sure this is no easy task!!!Here's what I have:My mother was told that Salomea Sarnik (her grandmother), Jan/John Czub, and Antoni Czub were siblings. > - Salomea Czub Sarnik. born 1876 arrived 5/4/1909 lived in Mass, RI, and in Utica NY where daughters got married and returned to Poland in early 1920s. This is my great grandmother. Father is Michael Czub, mother is Catherine Nowak. Ship record lists she is from Delastowice. > - John Czub. born 7/22/1880 arrived 4/2/1907 settled in Chicago Cook County Ill and naturalized there 6/26/1919. No records yet with names for John's mother or father to confirm he is Salomea's brother. Ship record lists he is from Szczucin. My mother never met his family but her mother said the Czubs in Chicago were cousins. > - Antoni Czub. born 3/21/1893 arrived 5/12/1912 lived in RI, Mass, and in Frankfort/Herkimer NY from mid 1920s forward, naturalized 1912 (?? from 1930 census). Father's name is Michael Czub (from ship record). Ship record lists he is from Delastowice. Ship record lists relative he is going to as Salomea Sarnik, his step-sister. My mother knew Antoni and called him uncle. > My first question: I would like to confirm the actual relationships of these relatives, especially Antoni and Salomea since we recently met the grandchildren on Antoni. The same father's name (Michael) and town are listed on ship records but Antoni's ship record lists Salomea as a step-sister. My mother and her siblings never heard reference of a 'step' relationship. There is a 17 year age difference between Salomea and Antoni so maybe they are half-siblings sharing the same father or children from 2 prior marriages? How would I verify the actual relationships between Salomea, John and Antoni? > Secondly. As I was searching names, there are ship records for other Czubs from Delastowice. If the ship records don't indicate a common relative, how might I determine if they are related? Examples. Karolina Czub arriving 1902, Piotr Czub arriving 1909. > Goodness. I appreciate any help or suggestions. Thank you so very much! > >

    03/16/2011 05:38:36
    1. Re: [POLAND] Czub siblings
    2. MARVIN POZDOL
    3. If you have ancestors from Chicago, the Polish Genealogical Society's website at www.pgsa.org. is a must to browse. Lots of information. Marv in Cleveland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. MICK" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:42:21 AM Subject: [POLAND] Czub siblings Hello everyone, My family research unfortunately has been on hold for the last year or so. But a few things surfaced so I appreciate any help or suggestions how I might identify siblings, and also how I might best determine if they are full, half or step siblings. I'm sure this is no easy task!!!Here's what I have:My mother was told that Salomea Sarnik (her grandmother), Jan/John Czub, and Antoni Czub were siblings. - Salomea Czub Sarnik. born 1876 arrived 5/4/1909 lived in Mass, RI, and in Utica NY where daughters got married and returned to Poland in early 1920s. This is my great grandmother. Father is Michael Czub, mother is Catherine Nowak. Ship record lists she is from Delastowice. - John Czub. born 7/22/1880 arrived 4/2/1907 settled in Chicago Cook County Ill and naturalized there 6/26/1919. No records yet with names for John's mother or father to confirm he is Salomea's brother. Ship record lists he is from Szczucin. My mother never met his family but her mother said the Czubs in Chicago were cousins. - Antoni Czub. born 3/21/1893 arrived 5/12/1912 lived in RI, Mass, and in Frankfort/Herkimer NY from mid 1920s forward, naturalized 1912 (?? from 1930 census). Father's name is Michael Czub (from ship record). Ship record lists he is from Delastowice. Ship record lists relative he is going to as Salomea Sarnik, his step-sister. My mother knew Antoni and called him uncle. My first question: I would like to confirm the actual relationships of these relatives, especially Antoni and Salomea since we recently met the grandchildren on Antoni. The same father's name (Michael) and town are listed on ship records but Antoni's ship record lists Salomea as a step-sister. My mother and her siblings never heard reference of a 'step' relationship. There is a 17 year age difference between Salomea and Antoni so maybe they are half-siblings sharing the same father or children from 2 prior marriages? How would I verify the actual relationships between Salomea, John and Antoni? Secondly. As I was searching names, there are ship records for other Czubs from Delastowice. If the ship records don't indicate a common relative, how might I determine if they are related? Examples. Karolina Czub arriving 1902, Piotr Czub arriving 1909. Goodness. I appreciate any help or suggestions. Thank you so very much! ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/16/2011 06:14:44