Hello Again Vera, Congratulations on your progress! Our families seem to show up in the same towns - I too had cloth-maker ancestors who lived in Bialystok, and in Zgierz, and in Rothenburg in Silesia. There are lots of birth, marriage and death records from Zgierz on microfilm, for all religions, that you can borrow from the Mormons/LDS. Each year of the records has an index, so you can quickly find the interesting records. I have visited Zgierz, there are still a lot of 19th century wooden cloth-makers' houses in one part of the town. The LDS also have films of the Protestant church books from Rothenburg, with baptisms going back as far as 1655. However, cloth-maker families moved around a lot, so you can't be sure of following your family back to the beginning of the church records (though you might get lucky). Once you have finished with the microfilms, there is a lot of interesting stuff about Zgierz stored in the archive in Lodz. I found my great-great grandfather's school reports from the 1830s. (behaviour - good, academic achievement - average). Paul Rakow PS, the clothmaker families I am following are: The HUEBNERs in Budzyn, Kornik, Zaniemysl, Pyzdry, *Rothenburg*, Ozorkow, Knyszyn and *Bialystok* (That family moved every 5 or 10 years). and GRUENKEs in Belchatow, *Zgierz*, Knyszyn and *Bialystok* ----- Vera Miller <veramiller@verizon.net> wrote: > > Hello all! > I have finally started getting my Zgierz roots researched. > I have learned my great-great-great-grandmother Paulina Kretzer had a > brother, Karol Fryderyk Kretzer. He was born June 7, 1843 in the village of > Slowik, near Zgierz. Paulina was born in 1835 or 1836 near Zgierz. Her > birth > record has not been found yet. > He and Paulina were children of Josef Kretzer, a clothmaker, and Marianna > Hentszel. Josef was born in 1802 or 1803. Marianna was born in 1812 or > 1813. > A researcher possibly found a brother for Marianna- Henryk Henschel. He was > born in Rothenburg, Silesia. He was born in 1815 or 1814 to Gotlieb > Henschel > and Joanna Krystyna Schermer. Gotlieb was a clothmaker. > Henryk married Caroline Wilhelmina Trettin, daughter of Gotlieb Trettin and > Elisabeth Grams. > I would love to hear from anyone related to the people mentioned above. > Thanks! > Vera >

Hi Paul, It is interesting our clothmaking ancestors lived in three of the same towns. The researcher recommended looking at records for Strykow and Ozorkow but I cannot afford to have her look at everything. I really don't have the time or patience to look at the microfilms. The nearest family history center has limited hours and it is hard to view records when I have two young kids. It is hard for me to look at the records. After I find records on the microfilms, I have to pay someone to translate the records. It just seems easier to have a professional researcher do the work herself. Do you have pictures from your visit of Zgierz? Have you ever contacted archives for Rothenburg? I want to contact them to see whether I can confirm parents for my Hentszel ancestor. Vera > Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 13:43:31 +0100 > From: paul.edward.luther.rakow@desy.de > To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [POLAND] Henschel/Hentszel Kretzer/Kreutzer- Zgierz > > > Hello Again Vera, > > Congratulations on your progress! > > Our families seem to show up in the same towns - I too > had cloth-maker ancestors who lived in Bialystok, and in Zgierz, > and in Rothenburg in Silesia. > > There are lots of birth, marriage and death records from > Zgierz on microfilm, for all religions, that you can borrow from > the Mormons/LDS. Each year of the records has an index, so you > can quickly find the interesting records. I have visited Zgierz, > there are still a lot of 19th century wooden cloth-makers' > houses in one part of the town. > > The LDS also have films of the Protestant church books from > Rothenburg, with baptisms going back as far as 1655. However, > cloth-maker families moved around a lot, so you can't be sure > of following your family back to the beginning of the church > records (though you might get lucky). > > Once you have finished with the microfilms, there is a lot > of interesting stuff about Zgierz stored in the archive in Lodz. > I found my great-great grandfather's school reports from the 1830s. > (behaviour - good, academic achievement - average). > > Paul Rakow > > PS, the clothmaker families I am following are: > The HUEBNERs in Budzyn, Kornik, Zaniemysl, Pyzdry, *Rothenburg*, > Ozorkow, Knyszyn and *Bialystok* (That family moved every 5 or 10 years). > and GRUENKEs in Belchatow, *Zgierz*, Knyszyn and *Bialystok* > > ----- > > Vera Miller <veramiller@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > Hello all! > > I have finally started getting my Zgierz roots researched. > > I have learned my great-great-great-grandmother Paulina Kretzer had a > > brother, Karol Fryderyk Kretzer. He was born June 7, 1843 in the village of > > Slowik, near Zgierz. Paulina was born in 1835 or 1836 near Zgierz. Her > > birth > > record has not been found yet. > > He and Paulina were children of Josef Kretzer, a clothmaker, and Marianna > > Hentszel. Josef was born in 1802 or 1803. Marianna was born in 1812 or > > 1813. > > A researcher possibly found a brother for Marianna- Henryk Henschel. He was > > born in Rothenburg, Silesia. He was born in 1815 or 1814 to Gotlieb > > Henschel > > and Joanna Krystyna Schermer. Gotlieb was a clothmaker. > > Henryk married Caroline Wilhelmina Trettin, daughter of Gotlieb Trettin and > > Elisabeth Grams. > > I would love to hear from anyone related to the people mentioned above. > > Thanks! > > Vera > > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message