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    1. Re: [POLAND] family relocation in 1830s
    2. Vera Miller
    3. Hi Debbie, Paulina Kretzer and Karl Hoffmann were married in Suprasl in the Evangelicalprayer-house in 1855. Is it possible to find pictures of this prayer house online? I will ask Bialystok archives to look up Kretzer in Bialsytok parish records because it's too complicated for me to get to the local family history center. I am hoping archives finds something about my Kretzer family who lived in Ratowiec. My Hoffman family from Ciechanowiec were chimney sweepers. Was this a common profession for people in Ciechanowiec? The rest of my family who lived in the Bialystok area were clothmakers. Vera > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:16:56 -0600 > From: daveg@airmail.net > To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [POLAND] family relocation in 1830s > > Vera, > > There are no stupid questions. You've heard that before right? It's > true, however, I don't think anyone here can answer your question > definitively. > > If adult children were married they _might not_ have followed the > parents to another place. If the adult children were unmarried then > they probably would have moved with their parents. > > People moved long distances to seek a better life and more work. Word > of more work/lack of certain craftsmen got around; newspapers, word of > mouth. Most people at this time did not own land so it wasn't a big > deal to move. A clothmaker's sons would have worked for him or with him. > > You don't have to necessarily hire someone (especially in Białystok) > to look for records. LDS has filmed Lutheran records for this city > covering 1841-1886. But these records would only help if you think > your ancestors were baptized and/or married in the Białystok parish. > http://tinyurl.com/atfl78j > > You didn't mention in which parish or village Paulina Kretzer and Karl > Hoffmann were married. > > FYI Ciechanowiec (if I have the correct one) is in old województwo of > Łomża. I mention this because you wrote that it was near Białystok and > Białystok was also a województwo. Just didn't want any confusion. > > Ratowiec is in gmina Czarna Wieś Kościelna, old woj. Białystok. > Interestingly, this village does not come up when searched on > jewishgen or mapa.szukacz.pl It does show up on the map site if you > search on Czarna Wieś Kościelna. (weird). > > Debbie

    11/09/2012 07:47:03
    1. Re: [POLAND] family relocation in 1830s
    2. Debbie Greenlee
    3. Vera, Wow, now you're asking questions that I can't answer. Have you searched on line for pictures of the Ewangeliche (this may not be a correct spelling but it's close) kościol in Supraśl? I never thought about Poland having chimney sweeps but I suppose there quite a few since every home had a chimney; probably not as many as one per village but perhaps one per gmina or powiat? Debbie Vera Miller wrote: > Hi Debbie, > Paulina Kretzer and Karl Hoffmann were married in Suprasl in the Evangelicalprayer-house in 1855. Is it possible to find pictures of this prayer house online? > I will ask Bialystok archives to look up Kretzer in Bialsytok parish records because it's too complicated for me to get to the local family history center. I am hoping archives finds something about my Kretzer family who lived in Ratowiec. > My Hoffman family from Ciechanowiec were chimney sweepers. Was this a common profession for people in Ciechanowiec? The rest of my family who lived in the Bialystok area were clothmakers. > Vera > >> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:16:56 -0600 >> From: daveg@airmail.net >> To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [POLAND] family relocation in 1830s >> >> Vera, >> >> There are no stupid questions. You've heard that before right? It's >> true, however, I don't think anyone here can answer your question >> definitively. >> >> If adult children were married they _might not_ have followed the >> parents to another place. If the adult children were unmarried then >> they probably would have moved with their parents. >> >> People moved long distances to seek a better life and more work. Word >> of more work/lack of certain craftsmen got around; newspapers, word of >> mouth. Most people at this time did not own land so it wasn't a big >> deal to move. A clothmaker's sons would have worked for him or with him. >> >> You don't have to necessarily hire someone (especially in Białystok) >> to look for records. LDS has filmed Lutheran records for this city >> covering 1841-1886. But these records would only help if you think >> your ancestors were baptized and/or married in the Białystok parish. >> http://tinyurl.com/atfl78j >> >> You didn't mention in which parish or village Paulina Kretzer and Karl >> Hoffmann were married. >> >> FYI Ciechanowiec (if I have the correct one) is in old województwo of >> Łomża. I mention this because you wrote that it was near Białystok and >> Białystok was also a województwo. Just didn't want any confusion. >> >> Ratowiec is in gmina Czarna Wieś Kościelna, old woj. Białystok. >> Interestingly, this village does not come up when searched on >> jewishgen or mapa.szukacz.pl It does show up on the map site if you >> search on Czarna Wieś Kościelna. (weird). >> >> Debbie

    11/09/2012 07:55:07