On 6/25/12, Harriet <harcardinal@earthlink.net> wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to the PolandBorderSurnames mail list? I > have not received any postings in a number of days, and when I browsed > the archives at lists.rootsweb, the last postings are for 21 June 2012. It is still active, but a number of people unsubscribed when there was a rash of spam a while back. So, it definitely is less active than it used to be. It always has gone for periods of time without posts, as happens with many smaller lists, but if anyone asks a question there, someone generally does respond.
Hi Rita, Don't know if this will help or not. Not related. Ruth Pokorny. --------------- (This seems to be Chester...) Social Security Death Index Name: Chester Klaniecki SSN: 168-10-5257 Last Residence: 15001 Aliquippa, Beaver, Pennsylvania, United States of America Born: 1 Aug 1913 Died: Aug 1986 State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951) ---------------- (Was this Chester's son Chester?) U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 Name: Chester J Klanicki Address: 705 Hickory Dr, Beaver, PA, 15009 (1983) --------------- U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2 Name: Chester J Klanicki Address: 705 Hickory Dr, Aliquippa, PA, 15001-1135 ---------------- U.S. Phone and Address Directories, 1993-2002 Name: Chester J Klanicki Address: 705 Hickory Dr City: Aliquippa State: Pennsylvania Zip Code: 15001 Phone Number: 412-375-6288 Residence Years: 1993 -------------- U.S. Phone and Address Directories, 1993-2002 Name: Chester J Klanicki Address: 400 S Florida Ave 205A City: Lakeland State: Florida Zip Code: 33801 Phone Number: 813-(unlisted) Residence Years: 1994 ------------- (This seems to be Leon) New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Leon Klanicki Arrival Date: 16 Apr 1902 Birth Year: abt 1882 Age: 20 Gender: Male Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Russian Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Kensington Last Residence: Can't make it out Seaport for landing in US: Polish (go figure) Final Destination: Allegheny, Pa Friend or relative in US: Brother ???zin? Klaniecki, Woods Run, Pa -------------- (This seems to be Leon's WWI Draft Card. But when you click on the image for Leon, a John Klich (Image 257 of 717) comes up instead of Leon. Ancstry has the wrong link to the actual image for Leo. But if you go back to (Image 233 of 717), you will find Leon. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Leon Klaniecki Residence: 525 Talbot Ave Braddock Allg Pa County: Allegheny State: Pennsylvania Birth Date: 25 Mar 1882 (Poland) Race: White FHL Roll Number: 1852388 DraftBoard: 12 Age: 36 Occupation: Chain? Maker, ?st St Braddock Allg Pa Employer: American Chain? Co. Nearest Relative:????? Klaniecki, 525 Talbot Ave Braddock Allg Pa Height/Build: Medium/Medium Color of Eyes/Hair: Grey/Brown Date: Sept 12, 1918 ------------ Then, Leon was also listed in the WWII Draft Registration U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 Name: Leo Klaniecki Birth Date: 25 Mar 1882 Birth Place: Boolanowo, Poland Residence: Beaver, Pennsylvania (237 Beaver Ave W? Aliq?) Age: 60 Occupation: Unemployed Nearest Relative: Chester Klaniecki, 237 Beaver Ave W? Aliq? Height/Build: 5' 5 1/2 "...155 Lbs. Color of Eyes/Hair: Brown/Brown ------------ I couldn't find Leon in the 1910 or 1930 census. But this is most likely him in 1920. 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Leon Klamick[Leon Klanicek] [Leon Klanieck] Age: 38 Birth Year: abt 1882 Birthplace: Poland Home in 1920: Pittsburgh Ward 16, Allegheny, Pennsylvania Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1901 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Rose Klamick Father's Birthplace: Poland Mother's Birthplace: Poland Home owned: Rent Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Household Members: Name Age Leon Klamick 38 Rose Klamick 37 (Was Rose a 2nd wife?) Ceslaw Klamick 7 (could this be Chester?) Josephine Klamick 5 (Was Josephine a daughter of Leon & Victoria?) ------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita" <rciot@suddenlink.net> To: <POLAND-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:04 AM Subject: [POLAND] Pennsylvania Death and Marriage records >I hope someone can help me with finding my Great Aunt Victoria > Ciotuszynski/a's Marriage and Death records out of Pittsburgh Pa.....she > died Nov 1918 or 1919 I believe....and was possibly married to Leon > Klanicki/Klanecki. She had one child Chester Klanicki. I have searched > high and low. It is possible she is buried in Braddock, Pa. > > Thank you in advance, > Rita Ciot (Ciotuszynski) > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2433/5077 - Release Date: 06/18/12 > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Does anyone know what happened to the PolandBorderSurnames mail list? I have not received any postings in a number of days, and when I browsed the archives at lists.rootsweb, the last postings are for 21 June 2012.
Harriet, It looks like that list is just not busy anymore. Perhaps it is dying a slow death. It happens. Debbie Harriet wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to the PolandBorderSurnames mail list? I > have not received any postings in a number of days, and when I browsed > the archives at lists.rootsweb, the last postings are for 21 June 2012. > ********************************* >
Gail, There are several how-to books for translating Latin records and LDS has a Latin word list in booklet form. You can also order a Translation Packet from the Polish Genealogical Society of America in Chicago: http://www.pgsa.org/store/cart.php?target=category&category_id=40 Books: Jonathan D. Shea's _Going Home: A Guide to Polish American Family History Research_. http://www.langline.com/ _Sto Lat_ by Ceil Wendt Jensen: http://www.familyrootspublishing.com/store/product_view.php?id=442 You could also scan the document in question and post it somewhere then notify this list so folks can take a look at it and give their translations. Debbie gswilson19@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > I just found the 1844 marriage of my 4th great grandparents. It is in Latin from a Catholic church in Pakoslaw. I have tried several sites and haven't made much headway in translating it myself. Can anyone suggest someone that does translations for a small fee? > > Thanks, > > Gail >
--- On Mon, 6/18/12, Rita <rciot@suddenlink.net> wrote: > I hope someone can help me with > finding my Great Aunt Victoria > Ciotuszynski/a's Marriage and Death records out of> Pittsburgh Pa.....she > died Nov 1918 or 1919 I believe....and was possibly married > to Leon> Klanicki/Klanecki. She had one child Chester Klanicki. I > have searched > high and low. It is possible she is buried in Braddock, Pa. Rita: Ok, I am trying to make Chruschiki out of piecrust here, but I do have the right surnames and time frame, but the first names and state are different. Are they possibly cousins marrying cousins? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11873-51717-81?cc=1452395 see the second one from the bottom PolishDragon@att.net
Hi, I just found the 1844 marriage of my 4th great grandparents. It is in Latin from a Catholic church in Pakoslaw. I have tried several sites and haven't made much headway in translating it myself. Can anyone suggest someone that does translations for a small fee? Thanks, Gail
I agree with Roman. Both definitely appear as Olszewski. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Roman <romankal@verizon.net> wrote: > On both records it is Olszewski, not Olszański. > > Roman > > On 6/22/2012 1:20 PM, Dennis K. wrote: > > Roman wrote: > >> The record states '... w dniu dziesiątym bieżącego miesiąca o godzinie > >> osmej rano umarła ...', namely, 'on the tenth of the current month at > >> eight in the morning died ...'. > >> > >> She was the daughter of Stan and Ewa Olszański. > > > > Thanks. That was what I came up with but I just wasn't positive ... > > except from other records (like > > > http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/images/Swiedziebnia/bap-modzelewski-antoni-18011005.jpg > ) > > the surname looks like Olszewski. > > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
On both records it is Olszewski, not Olszański. Roman On 6/22/2012 1:20 PM, Dennis K. wrote: > Roman wrote: >> The record states '... w dniu dziesiątym bieżącego miesiąca o godzinie >> osmej rano umarła ...', namely, 'on the tenth of the current month at >> eight in the morning died ...'. >> >> She was the daughter of Stan and Ewa Olszański. > > Thanks. That was what I came up with but I just wasn't positive ... > except from other records (like > http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/images/Swiedziebnia/bap-modzelewski-antoni-18011005.jpg) > the surname looks like Olszewski. >
Looks like 13 May to me at 10 am in the morning. Interesting I have family in Swiedziebnia, Przedzienkowski Regards, Kuba On Jun 22, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Dennis K. wrote: > Hi again, > > I am having a brain cramp this morning with the following... > > http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/images/Swiedziebnia/bur-modzelewski-agnieszka-1829.jpg > > I get a burial date of 13 May 1829. > > Is the death date the 10th of the current month? There seems to be > something else in there that I am not accounting for. > > Thanks (again), > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek > Cincinnati, Ohio (born in Cleveland) > kowallek@iglou.com > ****************** > Researching in Świedziebnia (and surrounding area) > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Jakub Przedzienkowski jimpres@mac.com JMJ
Roman wrote: > The record states '... w dniu dziesiątym bieżącego miesiąca o godzinie > osmej rano umarła ...', namely, 'on the tenth of the current month at > eight in the morning died ...'. > > She was the daughter of Stan and Ewa Olszański. Thanks. That was what I came up with but I just wasn't positive ... except from other records (like http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/images/Swiedziebnia/bap-modzelewski-antoni-18011005.jpg) the surname looks like Olszewski. -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio (born in Cleveland) kowallek@iglou.com ****************** Researching in Świedziebnia (and surrounding area)
Oops! Looked at that again. It is the13th of May. Dorothy On Jun 22, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Dorothy Petraitis wrote: Hi Dennis, Dealing with only the first three lines of this document, I get the following date: 30th of May 1812 at 10 in the morning. I hope this is of some help. Dorothy On Jun 22, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Dennis K. wrote: Hi again, I am having a brain cramp this morning with the following... http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/images/Swiedziebnia/bur-modzelewski-agnieszka-1829.jpg I get a burial date of 13 May 1829. Is the death date the 10th of the current month? There seems to be something else in there that I am not accounting for. Thanks (again), -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio (born in Cleveland) kowallek@iglou.com ****************** Researching in Świedziebnia (and surrounding area) ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The record states '... w dniu dziesiątym bieżącego miesiąca o godzinie osmej rano umarła ...', namely, 'on the tenth of the current month at eight in the morning died ...'. She was the daughter of Stan and Ewa Olszański. Roman On 6/22/2012 11:11 AM, Dennis K. wrote: > Roman wrote: >> The burial may well have occurred on the 13th of May, however that is >> not what the record specifies. On that date the death was reported to >> the authorities. > > I usually use that for the burial date since it probably is as close as > I will get. I understand that it may not be. > >> What else are you specifically questioning that is not being accounted? > > The death date specifically. And is Ewa's maiden name mentioned? I will > probably get this whole record translated since she is a direct > ancestor, but in the meantime I was just curious. > > Thanks, >
Hi Dennis, Dealing with only the first three lines of this document, I get the following date: 30th of May 1812 at 10 in the morning. I hope this is of some help. Dorothy On Jun 22, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Dennis K. wrote: Hi again, I am having a brain cramp this morning with the following... http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/images/Swiedziebnia/bur-modzelewski-agnieszka-1829.jpg I get a burial date of 13 May 1829. Is the death date the 10th of the current month? There seems to be something else in there that I am not accounting for. Thanks (again), -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio (born in Cleveland) kowallek@iglou.com ****************** Researching in Świedziebnia (and surrounding area) ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Roman wrote: > The burial may well have occurred on the 13th of May, however that is > not what the record specifies. On that date the death was reported to > the authorities. I usually use that for the burial date since it probably is as close as I will get. I understand that it may not be. > What else are you specifically questioning that is not being accounted? The death date specifically. And is Ewa's maiden name mentioned? I will probably get this whole record translated since she is a direct ancestor, but in the meantime I was just curious. Thanks, -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio (born in Cleveland) kowallek@iglou.com ****************** Researching in Świedziebnia (and surrounding area)
Dennis, The burial may well have occurred on the 13th of May, however that is not what the record specifies. On that date the death was reported to the authorities. What else are you specifically questioning that is not being accounted? Roman On 6/22/2012 10:18 AM, Dennis K. wrote: > Hi again, > > I am having a brain cramp this morning with the following... > > http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/images/Swiedziebnia/bur-modzelewski-agnieszka-1829.jpg > > I get a burial date of 13 May 1829. > > Is the death date the 10th of the current month? There seems to be > something else in there that I am not accounting for. > > Thanks (again), >
i agree with you, it's not written clearly but it does look like 'current month' to me. ck On 6/22/2012 10:18 AM, Dennis K. wrote: > Hi again, > > I am having a brain cramp this morning with the following... > > http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/images/Swiedziebnia/bur-modzelewski-agnieszka-1829.jpg > > I get a burial date of 13 May 1829. > > Is the death date the 10th of the current month? There seems to be > something else in there that I am not accounting for. > > Thanks (again), >
Hi again, I am having a brain cramp this morning with the following... http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/images/Swiedziebnia/bur-modzelewski-agnieszka-1829.jpg I get a burial date of 13 May 1829. Is the death date the 10th of the current month? There seems to be something else in there that I am not accounting for. Thanks (again), -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio (born in Cleveland) kowallek@iglou.com ****************** Researching in Świedziebnia (and surrounding area)
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I received a private email which provided a link to a site that shows the surname Młodeński is NOT unknown in Poland. So Młodeński it is! My thanks to everyone who replied. -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio (born in Cleveland) kowallek@iglou.com ****************** Researching in Świedziebnia (and surrounding area) Debbie Greenlee wrote: > I agree though there is also a diacritical mark over the 'n'; > Młodeński.