Patty, People who do not reside _continuously_ in the U.S. for a specified amount of time are not eligible to become citizens. So if someone were overseas during WWII they would not have been eligible. Numbers written on the manifests can mean several things. See these explanations on Jewish Gen: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/ Debbie Patty Milich wrote: > Hello: > > My apologies, but I can't seem to find a recent (last few months) email from > someone helpful that addressed the issue of the hand-written, later-inserted > numbers on ships' manifests. This was a reference to the proof of arrival > date, etc. for the declaration of intent, as I recall. What I am asking is: > is this a reference number that would be sufficient to find the actual full > naturalization record from the USCIS or NARA? For one ancestor, I already > have a set of docs: ship's manifest and all three docs for naturalization, > however, there are no two numbers or codes on any of the docs that are the > same, so it makes me wonder. > > For the person's naturalization that I'm now looking for, the date of this > naturalization is about 1945-46 during WWII, probably overseas. Has anyone > researched US naturalization of an alien outside the US? > > Thanks, > Patty >

Patti, You mentioned all three papers for naturalization. I only know of the papers for intent and then the naturalization papers. Which is the third? Thanks Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patty Milich" <1teacup@sbcglobal.net> To: <POLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:16 PM Subject: [POLAND] naturalization numbers on ships manifest > Hello: > > My apologies, but I can't seem to find a recent (last few months) email > from > someone helpful that addressed the issue of the hand-written, > later-inserted > numbers on ships' manifests. This was a reference to the proof of arrival > date, etc. for the declaration of intent, as I recall. What I am asking > is: > is this a reference number that would be sufficient to find the actual > full > naturalization record from the USCIS or NARA? For one ancestor, I already > have a set of docs: ship's manifest and all three docs for naturalization, > however, there are no two numbers or codes on any of the docs that are the > same, so it makes me wonder. > > For the person's naturalization that I'm now looking for, the date of this > naturalization is about 1945-46 during WWII, probably overseas. Has > anyone > researched US naturalization of an alien outside the US? > > Thanks, > Patty > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, I was very surprised to see a relative of mine listed on your site. It is Mary Boike married to Valentine Groth. Mary is the daughter of Frank Boike and Elizabeth Reske. Mary is my grandfather August's sister and my dad's aunt. Did the Ostrowski's live on Theodore in Detroit. I remember my cousin talking about an Ostrowski who was a friend of my grandfather. It might have been Abram. Joni **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

A few of the Ostrowskis I've surveyed lived on Theodore. Check out: John Ostrowski http://dealraider.com/gene/detroitostrowskis/139.html Jacob Ostrowski http://dealraider.com/gene/detroitostrowskis/119.html Vasile Ostanski (Ostrowski?) http://dealraider.com/gene/detroitostrowskis/917.html I don't have much information on those few though, it would be great if you had info that linked them in to the larger tree. I've gotten one great reply from another person who was able to link 3 family groups into 1 based on this project and had information where that family group came from in Poland.  I hope we can whittle these down to nearly no duplicate individuals. ----- Original Message ---- From: "Lynnjoni@aol.com" <+rootswebblobcom+junkymail+c7e186c945.Lynnjoni#aol.com@spamgourmet.com> To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:19:58 AM Subject: [POLAND] Detroit Ostrowski Hi, I was very surprised to see  a relative of mine listed on your  site.  It is Mary Boike married to Valentine Groth.  Mary is the  daughter of Frank Boike and Elizabeth Reske.  Mary is my grandfather  August's sister and my dad's aunt.  Did the Ostrowski's live on Theodore in  Detroit.  I remember my cousin talking about an Ostrowski who was a friend  of my grandfather.  It might have been Abram. Joni **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008.      (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ********************************* Need to contact the list manager?  Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello: My apologies, but I can't seem to find a recent (last few months) email from someone helpful that addressed the issue of the hand-written, later-inserted numbers on ships' manifests. This was a reference to the proof of arrival date, etc. for the declaration of intent, as I recall. What I am asking is: is this a reference number that would be sufficient to find the actual full naturalization record from the USCIS or NARA? For one ancestor, I already have a set of docs: ship's manifest and all three docs for naturalization, however, there are no two numbers or codes on any of the docs that are the same, so it makes me wonder. For the person's naturalization that I'm now looking for, the date of this naturalization is about 1945-46 during WWII, probably overseas. Has anyone researched US naturalization of an alien outside the US? Thanks, Patty

Hope this helps: Source: http://www.cpl.org/ Click on The Cleveland Necrology File in the left column. Id#: 0794744 Name: Zakrzewski, Zygmunt Paul Date: Apr 24 1968 Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #169. Notes: Zakrzewski. Zygmunt Paul Zakrzewski, late residence, 1215 E. 84th St., beloved husband of Helena (nee Kesicki), dear father of Mrs. Ray Kacprzak (Eleanore) and Mrs. Albert Cassedy (Barbara), brother of Jadwiga Wisniewski (deceased), Maria Buszowski (deceased), grandfather of six and beloved uncle. Services Thursday, Apr. 25, at St. Casimir Church, 10 a.m. Interment Calvary Cemetery. Friends received at Mosinski Funeral Home, 3667 E. 65th St., Wednesday 2 To 5 And 7 To 10 P.M. Mary virginia miller wrote: > I am looking for information on Paul Zakrzewski who lived in Cleveland. His wife's name was Helen, and I believe a daughter was called Barbara. He was my husband's grandmother's younger brother, born about 1897 and came from Poland in 1913. His father's name on the manifest was given as Tomasz. I believe he was in Hamilton, Ontario before immigrating to the States. > We are researching my husband's genealogy, but he has lost touch with this family. Any help would be appreciated. > >

Thanks Mary. That's wonderful. I'm hoping to locate a death certificate and discover his mother's name. Virginia

Hello, I've posted the result of work on Ostrowski families and related individuals that were in the Detroit, Michigan area.  This information is based on the Detroit city directories, US census records, and Michigan vital records on FamilySearchLabs. A good page to start is in the name index, but everything is linkable: http://www.dealraider.com/gene/detroitostrowskis/names16.html If you had any Detroit-area Ostrowskis, please take a look and see if you link in or know any more information on these families.  Please send me an email here or through the site with any information updates you have.  If you have any information that would prove that some of these people are duplicates of each other, I'd be grateful. I did this work because I'm trying to find the ancestral village of my ancestor Vincent Ostrowski (1860-1939).  By surveying all the Ostrowskis in the area, I hoped to link together with some other families who may be easier to trace the ancestral village.  After all this effort, I have not been able to accomplish that yet, but the work is hopefully useful to everyone else. Thank You! p.s. I'm primarily looking for my ancestral village in Poland (West Prussia) of Vincent Ostrowski (b 1860 - d 1939, married to Julia Radzikowska).  After a lot of work, my best hint is still the Hamburg Passenger List that gives a town that looks like Kl. Conja, but I have not found a matching record yet on any towns.  If you have any information, please contact me, I also have a big reward for anyone that prove the original village! :)

I am looking for information on Paul Zakrzewski who lived in Cleveland. His wife's name was Helen, and I believe a daughter was called Barbara. He was my husband's grandmother's younger brother, born about 1897 and came from Poland in 1913. His father's name on the manifest was given as Tomasz. I believe he was in Hamilton, Ontario before immigrating to the States. We are researching my husband's genealogy, but he has lost touch with this family. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Virginia

Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe - A Genealogy Group for people of German Origin in Poland and Volhynia. www.sggee.org Registration form and agenda can be found at http://www.sggee.org/conventions/ConventionNews Register soon so we know how large a 10th Anniversary cake needs to be ordered. Rose

I just received the following notice for a free Ethnic Research Webinar through Ancestry.com, from the Polish Art Center. I thought I should share this with the list in case anyone else is interested. They also have free webinars for Italian, Irish and German on different dates. June 24, 2008 8:00 PM EDT - Polish Ancestry - Free Ethnic Research Webinars It’s a wonderful time to begin your Polish research. Traditional resources stock the shelves of local and national libraries and the Internet offers new ways to research in both the United States and in Poland. Ceil Jensen, Certified Genealogist, will dispel myths that records were destroyed during the World Wars and that language barriers make research difficult. She will present practical examples and suggestions on how to use records, databases and archives to start or advance your Polish genealogy research. Registration is required to attend these events. Please register now by selecting the events you would like to attend. The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. Mahatama Gandhi LeAnn

If you are on Windows Vista, there is a Windows Photo Gallery included in the system. It is really great little program for cataloguing and tagging photos. You can also email pictures directly from the catalogue. If you are on Windows XP, I'd suggest to get program Picasa made by Google (picasa.com). It is free and widely used. Personally, because I do a lot of photo/graphic design and I own the Adobe Photoshop, I use Adobe Bridge. Probably, one of the best photo cataloguing software on the market today. But it is $$$. Ella > > I know this is not a specifically Polish genealogy question...feel free > to answer me off-list. I have come into a great number of old photos > which I have been scanning. Does anyone have any suggestions for > software for organizing the photos and labeling them so I can > distribute them to family members and also have them for my own > collection?

I was torn between using PhotoShop Elements (the very basic aspects of that program) and knowing that I probably need to bite the bullet and learn the full-sized program (and bite the cost of it). Then I found a couple guide books at Borders and Barnes & Noble for PhotoShop Elements that taught me that I was using only a miniscule portion of cut-down version of PhotoShop. There is a huge component of PhotoShop Elements dedicated to cataloguing and restoring old photographs. It's time for me to do some heavy-duty reading and start cataloguing and restoring the hundreds of family photographs I've collected. I use a Mac, but PhotoShop Elements is available in Windows or Mac versions. -- Alan On Jun 12, 2008, at 7:26 AM, singmore wrote: > If you are on Windows Vista, there is a Windows Photo Gallery > included in > the system. It is really great little program for cataloguing and > tagging > photos. You can also email pictures directly from the catalogue. If > you are > on Windows XP, I'd suggest to get program Picasa made by Google > (picasa.com). It is free and widely used. > > Personally, because I do a lot of photo/graphic design and I own the > Adobe > Photoshop, I use Adobe Bridge. Probably, one of the best photo > cataloguing > software on the market today. But it is $$$. > > Ella > >> >> I know this is not a specifically Polish genealogy question...feel >> free >> to answer me off-list. I have come into a great number of old photos >> which I have been scanning. Does anyone have any suggestions for >> software for organizing the photos and labeling them so I can >> distribute them to family members and also have them for my own >> collection?

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Hallo Jemand kennen diese gemeinde Leipe, Kr Jauer, Schlesien, Preußen aber heute ist in Poland, Wrocław, Lipa (Jawor) Ich suche familie LUDWIG und ECKERT Vielen Dank Achtungsvoll Alessandro Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento! http://br.mail.yahoo.com/

Alan I have the same problem. I would love to give my father a copy of the family tree, but it is just so big now that printing it is not an option.Never mind about taping all the sheets together! If anyone comes up with a solution, could you pass it on to me please? Especially as I've just had more info about my Westphalian family - so far I have ancestors in West Prussia, Zabloty near Lodz, and Westphalia. Oh, and my English family! I'm not too skilled at this genealogy, but even as a bumbling amateur I am amazed at how much can be found. I'm also constantly surpirsed and pleased at how many others are willing to help - unless they have family in the UK, I can't reciprocate, I can only thank them all. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan J. Kania" <ajkania@comcast.net> To: "Poland-Roots-L@rootsweb. Com" <POLAND-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: [POLAND] Making charts for family distribution >I never thought I'd reach this point in my family research, but > successful research has prompted a difficult situation. > > Last year, I bit the bullet and had Iwona Dankiniewicz do some > research on the KANIA-MIGDAL family lines (and more). She was able to > push the family lines back to the mid-1700s and into the village of > Lodygowice. Several members of the family in my grandmother's village > of Buczkowice provided me with more information than when I initially > visited the family in 2001. And some of my own limited research has > found some additional potential villagers who are probable members of > the family. I'm now dealing with ten generations of family members. > > Iwona found more church books in the Lodygowice church that go back to > the 1600s and has found land records in the Zywiec archives. She will > be returning to Lodygowice at the end of the month. > > To bring her completely up to date, I printed out my family chart and > found an unfortunate situation. Even using a 9 pt. font size, the > "Relative Chart" format resulted in 65 pages that I need to trim and > tape together. When you tape that many pages together, it produces an > impressive chart (when viewed several city blocks away), but not only > is it pretty lumpy when you get close enough to read it but it's also > impossible to have reproduced, even at a professional blueprint-type > print shop on a "plotter." And since the post office charges extra for > shipping tubes over three feet in width, it makes shipping difficult. > I tried folding the chart several times, but couldn't get the > remainder of the folder chart to roll up to fit into the shipping tube. > > Decreasing the font size even further will make the chart difficult to > read, and I don't think that would reduce the family chart much more > than the current 65 pages. > > Iwona will be pushing the family records further back, so the new > chart will be even larger. I would love to put the family information > into a form that I could send to all the key living members of the > family as holiday presents at the end of the year, but the Relative > Chart format really doesn't look very appealing to anyone but another > genealogist used to dealing with work sheets. I was thinking of > chopping up the branches of the family and having a photo book > printed, but that won't give the same overall view of just how large > our "little" family has become. > > I'm hoping the family presents will encourage others in the family to > provide more detailed information about their branches of the family > -- and even to dig through their family photo albums to beef-up the > information I don't have about their particular branches of the family. > > Has anyone found a solution to cumbersome family charts that need to > be put into a format that could be distributed to families in the U.S. > as well as in Poland? > > -- Alan > > PS Iwona's research rates have increased -- partially because of the > value of the U.S. Dollar and partially because gasoline prices in > Poland are now at $8.40 a gallon ($2.30 a liter). > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Elise, If you are on a Macintosh use iPhoto. If not try the web free sites. Picasso,Photobucket and there are others. Jim On Jun 11, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Elise Urbaniak wrote: > Hi, all, > > I know this is not a specifically Polish genealogy question...feel > free to answer me off-list. I have come into a great number of old > photos which I have been scanning. Does anyone have any > suggestions for software for organizing the photos and labeling > them so I can distribute them to family members and also have them > for my own collection? > Thanks in advance. > Elise > in Michigan > > some surnames of interest: > Magretta (Zamosc to Detroit, MI) > Lieske (Germany/Poland? to Detroit, MI) > Jurkiewicz (Sugajno to Detroit, MI) > Jackowski (Niemczewo, Gralewo, Sokolniki to Detroit, MI) > Romanowski (Plonsk) > Trawinski (Plonsk? to Baltimore, MD & New Baltimore, MI) > Nogas (Zamosc) > ____________________________________________________________ > Sweepstakes!!! > Enter for your chance to WIN one of hundreds of daily prizes. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/ > JKFkuJi7UnnfbbxworN40cEFSIaE0qxt6tBDV5dIQx0OBb90zDekpY/ > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots- > admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this > list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

After scanning them into the computer. Divide them by families. If you are using FTM you can copy them into the scrapbook part of the program under each person. 2008 edition will even allow you to post pictures on the family group sheets. Copy them to CD ----------- Now this is an expensive route so I woud ask family, who wants one and get the money up front. CVS or Walgreens or Walmart (probably others but I have only seen these three in my area) PHOTO department prints bound photo albums. You can take the pictures and put them together like a collage or straight album page mix or match. There are usually about 20 pages. If you get an operator who enjoys their job they will be able to help you get the max in that book. Unhappy operators -----PUSH for what you want. On YOUR computer: there is a company called MYPUBLISHER.com you down load the program into your computer. Pick the number of pictures per page. Insert the pictures into each space. Type a lable under each one. You can add pages for a cost and they reduce the price at certain quantities. Just remember to add postage to your final charge because you are going to have to ship them out and with postage climbing like GAS ---------------- My daughter gave my daughter-in-law one with her daughter's first year of life. IT WAS Amazing. Really nice gift and she was able to put it on her book shelf with the rest of her family books. I can see the future --------- one for each year. Hummmmmmm Since I dont know what "great number" means I am eliminating the obvious. Photosuite is a photo program you put into your computer. It helps you view photographs and when it comes time to print them you can print collages or place the prints of one person - per page. Print our Photo quality prints on photo paper and then take all of them to Kinko, Staples, Office Max and have them bound into book. PERSONALLY ---------------- go the CVS route or MYPUBLISHING .com the books are beautiful and lovely to have forever. Elise Urbaniak <teamu@juno.com> wrote: Hi, all, I know this is not a specifically Polish genealogy question...feel free to answer me off-list. I have come into a great number of old photos which I have been scanning. Does anyone have any suggestions for software for organizing the photos and labeling them so I can distribute them to family members and also have them for my own collection? Thanks in advance. Elise in Michigan some surnames of interest: Magretta (Zamosc to Detroit, MI) Lieske (Germany/Poland? to Detroit, MI) Jurkiewicz (Sugajno to Detroit, MI) Jackowski (Niemczewo, Gralewo, Sokolniki to Detroit, MI) Romanowski (Plonsk) Trawinski (Plonsk? to Baltimore, MD & New Baltimore, MI) Nogas (Zamosc) ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! Enter for your chance to WIN one of hundreds of daily prizes. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UnnfbbxworN40cEFSIaE0qxt6tBDV5dIQx0OBb90zDekpY/ ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, all, I know this is not a specifically Polish genealogy question...feel free to answer me off-list. I have come into a great number of old photos which I have been scanning. Does anyone have any suggestions for software for organizing the photos and labeling them so I can distribute them to family members and also have them for my own collection? Thanks in advance. Elise in Michigan some surnames of interest: Magretta (Zamosc to Detroit, MI) Lieske (Germany/Poland? to Detroit, MI) Jurkiewicz (Sugajno to Detroit, MI) Jackowski (Niemczewo, Gralewo, Sokolniki to Detroit, MI) Romanowski (Plonsk) Trawinski (Plonsk? to Baltimore, MD & New Baltimore, MI) Nogas (Zamosc) ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! Enter for your chance to WIN one of hundreds of daily prizes. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UnnfbbxworN40cEFSIaE0qxt6tBDV5dIQx0OBb90zDekpY/