My grandmother, who arrived in the United States in 1883 said her parents waited until their sons were also working and could help with the money saving. (she was the youngest). They made their way up to Germany for the boat by wagons and a supply of foods that would not spoil and their most precious and very necessary belongings. They also worked for food along the way since they could not spend their boat money. They knew where they were going (Chicago) and how much it would cost for the whole trip (boat and then train to Chicago) and their money could not be used for anything else. It was a long and difficult trip but they achieved their goal and Chicago seemed like paradise after what they have lived through. They all worked very hard, my grandmother worked in a laundry at the age of 12. I admired her then as well as her father, who lived to be 97 and her mother who died much sooner than that. What guts!!! And we complain about small inconviences. Sophie On 6/27/08, Judy <judybevans@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > I would like to read your publication, how do Igo about to get it, is it in > English? This article is so interesting, thank you for providing it. > Judy > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Fred Hoffman <wmfhoffman@sbcglobal.net> > To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:06:26 AM > Subject: Re: [POLAND] How Did They Get The Resources? > > Hi, > > Mike Stupinski asked: > > > It is 1882 and, as a resident of Southeastern > > Poland, you have decided > > to go to America to pursue your future. > > Unfortunately, you live in a > > small village and are poor. How much would it > > cost you (US currency > > stated at then-year dollars is the preferred > > economy) to get from your > > village to a seaport (by train, I would presume) > > and then to book > > passage (assume steerage) to America? By what > > means would you be > > likely to accumulate the money (assuming no rich > > uncle is around!)? > > > > The question seemed almost trivial when he first > > asked it but, based > > on the current cost of making that trip, it > > poses a dilemma. > > Wouldn't the cost to a peasant have been out of > > reach? > > Well, it wasn't easy. But when you feel something > is a matter of life and death, you find a way. For > a lot of people who emigrated, there really was no > choice. They could stay put and starve, being > ruled by foreign *!#s who never missed a chance to > grind them down, or they could risk everything for > a chance at a life worth living. As the poet said, > "When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to > lose." > > Iwona Dakiniewicz wrote an article on "The Journey > to America" in the Spring 2008 issue of _Rodziny_ > (PGSA's Journal), and she talked a little about > this. I don't think anyone would mind if I quote a > few paragraphs: > > ========== > > The first obstacle to overcome was collecting the > necessary sum of money: for the trip to the > railroad station, then for train tickets, ship > tickets, other expenses on the road, and a minimum > to help them get off to a start in their new > country. The total cost of the trip could range > from 150 to over 200 marks or rubles, depending on > where the trip began. > > How difficult it was to save the necessary funds > is illustrated by the situation of a typical > married couple living in a Prussian village with > several children in the 1840s. Both husband and > wife, employed in physical labor at the nearby > manorial farmstead, could not hope to attain a > combined income of more than 40 dollars annually > (the equivalent of about 120 marks later). At the > most, they could save perhaps 10 dollars a year. > > At first, several families would contribute to buy > a single ticket to America, in the hope that the > one chosen to go would quickly find work and repay > the loan, thus providing financial assistance to > those departing subsequently. > > As of the years 1888-1889, a ticket from Bremen to > New York cost 150-200 rubles, or 120-200 Austrian > crowns, and about the same amount in German marks. > A trip from Poznan to Chicago cost 30 dollars in > American money, by the rate of exchange at the > time. The firm Red Star offered a competitive > price: 21 dollars for a trip from the Prussian > partition to many American ports. > > The Polish emigrant often had a tragic view of the > price of ship tickets, for he was sure that they > wanted to cheat him. Although the prices were > fixed, he felt he would not waste the money and > would be very cautious and frugal with it. > > ========== > > It seems to me Iwona researched this pretty well, > and I think her observations are worth reading. Of > course, if you want to read more, you can always > join PGSA and get _Rodziny_, and Iwona's column, > four times a year. > > (Oops, apparently I just made a shameless plug for > one of the publications I edit. I am a naughty > boy....) > > Fred Hoffman > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? 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Hi, Referring to a note I posted quoting an article in _Rodziny_, Judy <judybevans@sbcglobal.net> asked: > I would like to read your publication, how do > Igo about to get it, > is it in English? This article is so > interesting, thank you for providing it. It is in English. It is the Journal of the Polish Genealogical Society of America, and the simplest way to get it is to join the Society: http://www.pgsa.org/membership.htm But if that specific article is what you want, and you're not interested in joining the PGSA, you can buy a copy of that issue. The basic info is here: http://www.pgsa.org/Books/back_issues.htm They haven't updated that page in five years, which is something I hope will change when PGSA completes arrangements for a new Webmaster. But I believe the basic procedure is the same. Just specify you want a copy of the Spring 2008 issue, Volume 31, #2. If I'm reading correctly, the price is $5.00. The ordering info on that Web page should be correct, but you can verify it, if you wish, by contacting the Society at PGSAmerica@aol.com. I'm sorry I can't be certain about all this, but I just edit _Rodziny_. Once I send the master off to the printer, my involvement ends. PGSA volunteers handle other matters such as selling back issues. So it wouldn't hurt to write PGSAmerica@aol.com and make sure I haven't misled you. But I believe that's correct. The article I quoted was by Iwona Dakiniewicz, an excellent researcher. The articles she writes for PGSA are, in my opinion, outstanding. If you'd like to read some of her articles in past issues, a nice selection is available here: http://www.ipgs.us/iwona/artdirectory/artdir.html I hope this answers your question. Fred Hoffman Editor of _Rodziny_ www.fredhoff.com

I would like to read your publication, how do Igo about to get it, is it in English?  This article is so interesting, thank you for providing it. Judy ----- Original Message ---- From: Fred Hoffman <wmfhoffman@sbcglobal.net> To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:06:26 AM Subject: Re: [POLAND] How Did They Get The Resources? Hi, Mike Stupinski asked: > It is 1882 and, as a resident of Southeastern > Poland, you have decided > to go to America to pursue your future. > Unfortunately, you live in a > small village and are poor. How much would it > cost you (US currency > stated at then-year dollars is the preferred > economy) to get from your > village to a seaport (by train, I would presume) > and then to book > passage (assume steerage) to America? By what > means would you be > likely to accumulate the money (assuming no rich > uncle is around!)? > > The question seemed almost trivial when he first > asked it but, based > on the current cost of making that trip, it > poses a dilemma. > Wouldn't the cost to a peasant have been out of > reach? Well, it wasn't easy. But when you feel something is a matter of life and death, you find a way. For a lot of people who emigrated, there really was no choice. They could stay put and starve, being ruled by foreign *!#s who never missed a chance to grind them down, or they could risk everything for a chance at a life worth living. As the poet said, "When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose." Iwona Dakiniewicz wrote an article on "The Journey to America" in the Spring 2008 issue of _Rodziny_ (PGSA's Journal), and she talked a little about this. I don't think anyone would mind if I quote a few paragraphs: ========== The first obstacle to overcome was collecting the necessary sum of money: for the trip to the railroad station, then for train tickets, ship tickets, other expenses on the road, and a minimum to help them get off to a start in their new country. The total cost of the trip could range from 150 to over 200 marks or rubles, depending on where the trip began. How difficult it was to save the necessary funds is illustrated by the situation of a typical married couple living in a Prussian village with several children in the 1840s. Both husband and wife, employed in physical labor at the nearby manorial farmstead, could not hope to attain a combined income of more than 40 dollars annually (the equivalent of about 120 marks later). At the most, they could save perhaps 10 dollars a year. At first, several families would contribute to buy a single ticket to America, in the hope that the one chosen to go would quickly find work and repay the loan, thus providing financial assistance to those departing subsequently. As of the years 1888-1889, a ticket from Bremen to New York cost 150-200 rubles, or 120-200 Austrian crowns, and about the same amount in German marks. A trip from Poznan to Chicago cost 30 dollars in American money, by the rate of exchange at the time. The firm Red Star offered a competitive price: 21 dollars for a trip from the Prussian partition to many American ports. The Polish emigrant often had a tragic view of the price of ship tickets, for he was sure that they wanted to cheat him. Although the prices were fixed, he felt he would not waste the money and would be very cautious and frugal with it. ========== It seems to me Iwona researched this pretty well, and I think her observations are worth reading. Of course, if you want to read more, you can always join PGSA and get _Rodziny_, and Iwona's column, four times a year. (Oops, apparently I just made a shameless plug for one of the publications I edit. I am a naughty boy....) Fred Hoffman ********************************* Need to contact the list manager?  Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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The numbers written on the manifest indicate when the certificate of arrival was prepared. This will give you an idea of when they applied for citizenship and maybe where. There is coding that is not used today but you could call NARA and ask them. However, it is proof that they did apply for citizenship. Keep in mind that many didn't remember the name of the ship when they applied for naturalization so they did not get a certificate of arrival. Meryl Rizzotti On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:06 AM, <poland-roots-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > If you'd like to post a message so everyone on the mailing list receives > it, just send it to: POLAND-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. It will then be sent on > to everyone on the subscriber list. Please note that the address to post > messages to the list is NOT the same as the address to (un)subscribe. > > Don't forget to edit the subject line to reflect the topic of your reply, > and please remember NOT to include the entire digest when clicking reply! > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > There are two sending formats of the digest: plain (inline) text and MIME > (attached messages). If you'd like to switch the format of your digest, > write POLAND-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com to request your digest format be > changed. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > List manager: Marie - poland-roots-admin@rootsweb.com > > List's archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > > Today's Topics: > > 1. naturalization numbers on ships manifest (Patty Milich) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:16:26 -0700 > From: "Patty Milich" <1teacup@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [POLAND] naturalization numbers on ships manifest > To: <POLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002001c8cf67$beeaf730$4ee8fea9@Patty> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello: > > My apologies, but I can't seem to find a recent (last few months) email > from > someone helpful that addressed the issue of the hand-written, > later-inserted > numbers on ships' manifests. This was a reference to the proof of arrival > date, etc. for the declaration of intent, as I recall. What I am asking > is: > is this a reference number that would be sufficient to find the actual full > naturalization record from the USCIS or NARA? For one ancestor, I already > have a set of docs: ship's manifest and all three docs for naturalization, > however, there are no two numbers or codes on any of the docs that are the > same, so it makes me wonder. > > For the person's naturalization that I'm now looking for, the date of this > naturalization is about 1945-46 during WWII, probably overseas. Has anyone > researched US naturalization of an alien outside the US? > > Thanks, > Patty > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the POLAND-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the POLAND-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of POLAND-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 254 > ******************************************** >

We have been using PolgenResearch.com over the last several years for on-site hunting of genealogical records in Poland (they are based in Warsaw). They have proven to be excellent. In a couple of weeks, Michal will be heading back to the Lomza/Grajewo area to chase some more family records for us. If you have ancestors in that area that need searching, let me or Michal (office@polgenresearch.com) know. We can reduce the individual travel costs if more people participate in the next trip... as I say, they have done a professional job for us. Regardless, I'll still send them into the wilds of Grajewo :-) I'd also be delighted to hear from anyone with ancestors from Cyprki or Kurejwa (served by church at Grajewo), or Netta or Guty (served by church at Wasosz). Also any Gryczan or Grondzki (Gra;dzki) or Krucki people out there (I have currently surrendered on 'Pawloska' and 'Kolowicz' from exact areas unknown)? Dzie;kuje; bardzo! Paul -- Paul Brady PhD Manager Academic & Instructional Computing College of Food, Agricultural and Natural Resource Sciences University of Minnesota 101 Coffey Hall 1420 Eckles Avenue St. Paul, MN 55108 612 625-2780 pbrady@umn.edu

Iwona Dakiniewicz is currently in Lodygowice (south of Bielsko-Biala) doing research on several of my family lines. She came across an interesting reference in the church records -- and it has us baffled. The KANIA family and the MIGDAL family have been marrying members of the family for a very long time. Many people have told me the MIGDAL surname has definite Jewish origins, yet all my known family have been Roman Catholic. We suspected at some point, there was a conversion to Roman Catholicism. Well, she found a church record in Lodygowice about Stefan Migdal and Jadwiga Ryczkowna (Ryczko). They had seven children: Simon ex (or "cx") Jude - 15 October 1763 Nicholas - 6 December 1764 Magdalena - 22 July 1770 Anna - 24 June 1773 Andreas - 22 November 1779 Katarzyna - 8 November 1782 Jan - 16 September 1785 in Buczkowice 9 The first six children were born in Rybarzowice, but then it looks like the family moved to Buczkowice sometime between 1782 and 1785. Only Simon has the "ex (or 'cx') Jude" reference. Has anyone come across a similar reference? -- Alan

`Tracie, Do you know what year your grandfather was naturalized? If it was around the 1940's, that might be late considering he came over in 1918. If by chance he was naturalized around then, because of the war, he might have had to file an Alien Registration Form. This is how I found out where my grandmother came from. All I can say it was the biggest help I ever came across. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracie Ballance" <dashswim@earthlink.net> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] general question > Terissa, > > No, I haven't seen this manifest-- I will be looking into this more-- > Thank > you- > > Thank you EVERYONE for your advice and ideas-- you're all wonderful. > > Tracie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terissa Schor" <terissa.schor@gmail.com> > To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [POLAND] general question > > >> Tracie: >> >> Have you seen this manifest? The father's name does not match, but the >> dates >> do. The mother is listed as Marianna, which could very well be shortened >> to >> Mary or Anna. >> >> http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=nypl%2c&rank=0&gsfn=adam&gsln=ste*sk%3f&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21416&o_lid=21416&pcat=40&fh=14&recid=72064253&recoff=1+2 >> >> Or search: Adam Stempkowska >> >> -Terissa >> >> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Tracie <dashswim@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> This might be too general for anyone to help, but I've been searching >>> for >>> where in Poland my family is from. All I have to go on is my >>> g-grandfather's name Adam Stepulkowski, approximate birth year, 1902, >>> immigration date (from 1930 US census) of 1918. ANY suggestions of how >>> to >>> find any leads on him? His death certificate doesn't list his parents >>> names >>> and his 2 marriage certificates list his father as Vincenty Stepulkowski >>> and >>> his mother's name is different on each certificate. I would appreciate >>> any >>> help. >>> >>> Tracie Stepulkoski Ballance >>> ********************************* >>> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >>> Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ---------------------------------- >>> Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list >>> as >>> long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: >>> researching our Polish roots. >>> ---------------------------------- >>> Browse the list's archives here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots >>> Search the list's archives here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Terissa Schor >> terissa.schor@gmail.com >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >> Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com >> ---------------------------------- >> Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list >> as >> long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: >> researching our Polish roots. >> ---------------------------------- >> Browse the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots >> Search the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

My 2 cents would be pronouncing dziekuje like: jean coo yeah. Jim On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:54 AM, BellBotm13@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/24/2008 9:10:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > jjrowland@shaw.ca writes: > > "dyakoyou" ???? > > Doesnt' look familiar. > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used? > ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots- > admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this > list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message jimpres1@mac.com

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To Barbara, I have run many family reunions, and gone to others of our descendants lines I have organized every thing I have in order, starting with the eldest. Run a descendants list. Then run Family group sheets for each family. I have used sheet protectors and inserted Pictures, Marriage certif.., and ect. of each behind them. People love to look at books and pictures. If you have many branches you might want to put them in different note books. Also run a few DVD's for those who might want them. Most people in our family have just wanted a copy of the book, especially the older people. I have made 25 copies for one family name. but it is very expensive and the postage to send them is great. Kinko's did mine many years age. Don't know if they still do that. Right now I have 31 different 4 inch family note books , and this sure makes it easy to keep tract of every thing. If you don't have time to enter it in the computer, just slip it in the sheet protector until a later date. Only use the archival safe sheets, they are a little more expensive but well worth it. When I started some 30 years ago, they were not out, and some of my pictures now have a glaze over them. Good luck with your project. Dee -----Original Message----- From: poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:poland-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JIM Presenkowski Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:17 PM To: poland-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POLAND] how to organize my files? Barbara, I don't know of a specific program (application) that does that for you. A good database program will however do all you want but you need to know how to use it. I use Filemaker Pro for all my database needs like book collections, DVD collections. I think that Reunion for the Macintosh will do a time line report like you describe. Jim On Jun 23, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Barbara wrote: > Hello all, > > I am desperately seeking information on how to get all the > information I > collected in some kind of order. I have saved everything in files, > and also > copied everything on paper just in case one or the other is lost (my > computer crashed once), I know how to save the information to > discs but I > will have the same confusion I have now. Is there a program that > helps you > organize the information? What I would like to do is to be able to > put this > all on a disc or two and have it in order form birth in Poland to > death in > the US, and everything in between and since. > > Is there a way to store or save it so you can actually have it > automatically turn pages to read? I an not a computer literate > person, I > did ask in Best Buy to see if there was such a program, I didn't > get any > help. If someone has a suggestion or knows of a program (if there > is such a > program) that that can do what I am looking for I would appreciate the > information. > > My grandparents moved to several states and I have done a history > search of > the towns where they lived and and even found penny postcard > pictures of the > specific dates. (This gives me an idea of what it was like back > then and > since it is a special part of my history, I didn't know they moved > so much > until I started searching) I want to include things like that with the > important papers, ie, manifests, all birth, marriage, baptism, census, > naturalization, death, etc). I am so overwhelmed with the information > > I need help to make some sense of it, and I truly need help! > Thanks in > advance for any suggestions. > Barbara > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? 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Terissa, No, I haven't seen this manifest-- I will be looking into this more-- Thank you- Thank you EVERYONE for your advice and ideas-- you're all wonderful. Tracie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terissa Schor" <terissa.schor@gmail.com> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] general question > Tracie: > > Have you seen this manifest? The father's name does not match, but the > dates > do. The mother is listed as Marianna, which could very well be shortened > to > Mary or Anna. > > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=nypl%2c&rank=0&gsfn=adam&gsln=ste*sk%3f&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21416&o_lid=21416&pcat=40&fh=14&recid=72064253&recoff=1+2 > > Or search: Adam Stempkowska > > -Terissa > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Tracie <dashswim@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> This might be too general for anyone to help, but I've been searching for >> where in Poland my family is from. All I have to go on is my >> g-grandfather's name Adam Stepulkowski, approximate birth year, 1902, >> immigration date (from 1930 US census) of 1918. ANY suggestions of how >> to >> find any leads on him? His death certificate doesn't list his parents >> names >> and his 2 marriage certificates list his father as Vincenty Stepulkowski >> and >> his mother's name is different on each certificate. I would appreciate >> any >> help. >> >> Tracie Stepulkoski Ballance >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >> Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com >> ---------------------------------- >> Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list >> as >> long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: >> researching our Polish roots. >> ---------------------------------- >> Browse the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots >> Search the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Terissa Schor > terissa.schor@gmail.com > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Jane, Did you read one of my replies? In it, I mentioned that you posted your request in the PBS forum, not this one, the POLAND forum. Nevertheless, I am sure we all appreciate your change of direction. And it has nothing to do about not liking to translate. Translation takes time and effort. If you don't post the original item, then people won't see what needs to be translated an will go on to other things. Cheers, Roman Jane Rowland wrote: > My apologies to the entire Digest on my "flaming". There was no > reason for it other than me taking out my frustration on you all. > > I originally wrote my request back in January and it did get posted because I received a few replies about how most don't like to translate. I am Ukrainian but seeing as all my family in Poland speak Polish since WWII, I am trying to learn. Unfortunately, my translator, my Dad, is no longer with us and it's been hard for me. Anyway, I am truly sorry! > > jane

Barbara, I don't know of a specific program (application) that does that for you. A good database program will however do all you want but you need to know how to use it. I use Filemaker Pro for all my database needs like book collections, DVD collections. I think that Reunion for the Macintosh will do a time line report like you describe. Jim On Jun 23, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Barbara wrote: > Hello all, > > I am desperately seeking information on how to get all the > information I > collected in some kind of order. I have saved everything in files, > and also > copied everything on paper just in case one or the other is lost (my > computer crashed once), I know how to save the information to > discs but I > will have the same confusion I have now. Is there a program that > helps you > organize the information? What I would like to do is to be able to > put this > all on a disc or two and have it in order form birth in Poland to > death in > the US, and everything in between and since. > > Is there a way to store or save it so you can actually have it > automatically turn pages to read? I an not a computer literate > person, I > did ask in Best Buy to see if there was such a program, I didn't > get any > help. If someone has a suggestion or knows of a program (if there > is such a > program) that that can do what I am looking for I would appreciate the > information. > > My grandparents moved to several states and I have done a history > search of > the towns where they lived and and even found penny postcard > pictures of the > specific dates. (This gives me an idea of what it was like back > then and > since it is a special part of my history, I didn't know they moved > so much > until I started searching) I want to include things like that with the > important papers, ie, manifests, all birth, marriage, baptism, census, > naturalization, death, etc). I am so overwhelmed with the information > > I need help to make some sense of it, and I truly need help! > Thanks in > advance for any suggestions. > Barbara > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots- > admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this > list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message jimpres1@mac.com

Hello all, I am desperately seeking information on how to get all the information I collected in some kind of order. I have saved everything in files, and also copied everything on paper just in case one or the other is lost (my computer crashed once), I know how to save the information to discs but I will have the same confusion I have now. Is there a program that helps you organize the information? What I would like to do is to be able to put this all on a disc or two and have it in order form birth in Poland to death in the US, and everything in between and since. Is there a way to store or save it so you can actually have it automatically turn pages to read? I an not a computer literate person, I did ask in Best Buy to see if there was such a program, I didn't get any help. If someone has a suggestion or knows of a program (if there is such a program) that that can do what I am looking for I would appreciate the information. My grandparents moved to several states and I have done a history search of the towns where they lived and and even found penny postcard pictures of the specific dates. (This gives me an idea of what it was like back then and since it is a special part of my history, I didn't know they moved so much until I started searching) I want to include things like that with the important papers, ie, manifests, all birth, marriage, baptism, census, naturalization, death, etc). I am so overwhelmed with the information I need help to make some sense of it, and I truly need help! Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Barbara

Tracie: Have you seen this manifest? The father's name does not match, but the dates do. The mother is listed as Marianna, which could very well be shortened to Mary or Anna. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=nypl%2c&rank=0&gsfn=adam&gsln=ste*sk%3f&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21416&o_lid=21416&pcat=40&fh=14&recid=72064253&recoff=1+2 Or search: Adam Stempkowska -Terissa On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Tracie <dashswim@earthlink.net> wrote: > This might be too general for anyone to help, but I've been searching for > where in Poland my family is from. All I have to go on is my > g-grandfather's name Adam Stepulkowski, approximate birth year, 1902, > immigration date (from 1930 US census) of 1918. ANY suggestions of how to > find any leads on him? His death certificate doesn't list his parents names > and his 2 marriage certificates list his father as Vincenty Stepulkowski and > his mother's name is different on each certificate. I would appreciate any > help. > > Tracie Stepulkoski Ballance > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Terissa Schor terissa.schor@gmail.com

Janie, Have you seen this? http://www.dp-camp-wildflecken.de/ and perhaps this one: http://www.dpcamps.org/ Debbie jmicchelli@aol.com wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I'm looking for former WWII refugees (and their descendents)? > who may have spent some time in Camp Wildflecken, Germany, > Please contact me?OFF-LIST at jmicchelli@aol.com > thanks, > janie >

Hi Paul, I too am so pleased I have learnt to translate as much as I can from Polish and Cyrillic records - I like to know all the information each one contains. This does mean that over time I keep needing to look back over previous translations for which I could not read so much detail. I am however useless at translating letters and contemporary Polish... I hope you can readily find a suitable course for the 'why' you (we?) are here, and will be able to share this knowledge with us all in due course. I'm not sure if I have been sent to torment my children sometimes... I appreciate the help readily given by so many knowledgeable people on these lists, much of which I can relate to my own researches. One day I might even get around to posting my queries!! Will there be anyone 'out there' then?? ;-) Happy searchings, Bronwyn. On 6/22/08, Paul Brady <pbrady@umn.edu> wrote: > > When chasing my wife's Polish roots, I recognized the imposition > translation represents on the one hand or the cost on the other. So... > my spouse and I took classes. The benefit to this approach was that I > could ask the prof when I ran into something tricky (it was ALL tricky > at first), and we also were forced to learn something of cultural > context. It was an all-around excellent experience... and allows me to > be an active participant in my own research... AND I don't have to be so > concerned that I'm seeking linguistic welfare... then getting upset when > the check doesn't arrive promptly. > > As to 'why the !@# are some of you here'?... that's way to much of a > metaphysical question for me. I suppose I'll be troubled enough by the > question that now I'll have to go take a course or two at the U in > philosophy <sigh>. > > This group is the most open, helpful and genuinely friendly _I_ have > encountered in genealogy... although far to prone to discuss recipes :-) > > Paul >