Hi Listers. I would appreciate if someone could assist me with cleaning up the translation of the description that is directly under a picture of Zalozce in 1847. I've managed to get an English Translation of the description but like most auto translation it leaves a lot to be desired. Here is a little background which may or may not help with the translation. Zalozce is on the Seret River 90 km. east of L'vov, and there was located on what they term a big pond between Zalozce Stare and Zalozce Nowe. In 1900 it was known as Zalozce, in the Region of Brody, Galicia, Austrian Empire. Today it is known as Zaliztsi in the Tarnopol oblast. Even if I can't get an exact translation I'm looking for a good description of the town to add to my notes. The web page in Polish is" http://www.olejow.yoyo.pl/readarticle.php?article_id=93 The English Translation webpage is: http://tinyurl.com/6jql86 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Val Researching: Stojkiewicz and Nazarewicz from Zalozce

Barbara wrote: > Someone was good enough to advise there are two towns/villages called > Peplowo. Our family came from the village near Plock. > > I have just been able to ascertain that family members were living in > Peplowo in 1869. Would anyone out there be able to give me an idea as to what > films at the FHC I should be looking at for additional family members? Barbara: Go to: http://www.familysearch.org Across the top lay your cursor on the word "Library" and the drop down menu lists "catalog". Click on that and then on the tab on the right which says 'Keyword Search". Type Peplowo in the new box and BINGO you have a film number which covers your time frame and place. And aren't you lucky? The Russian doesn't start until 1868! Go to your friendly neighborhood FHC and pay your fee and wait for the film to arrive. Enjoy! PolishDragon@att.net

Sam, You weren't looking at the correct film for your grandmother's baptismal record. If the information you have states L~asin parish, then you should look at the films under L~asin, Poland. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=65151&subject_disp=Poland%2C+Bydgoszcz%2C+%C5%81asin+%28Grudzi%C4%85dz%29&columns=*,0,0 LDS filmed Roman Catholic and Lutheran records for L~asin. Both titles apparently cover 1884 though the RC records show that only an Index covering 1831-1887 was filmed and not the records themselves. BTW Szynwald is also a parish and that is why the records were filmed. Seldom will you find that LDS has filmed Polish civil records. As a parish, Szynwald would also have been the location of the cemetery. You might benefit from reading (purchase or borrow from the public library) the how-to book, _Polish Roots_, by Rosemary Chorzempa. I think it will help clear up a few things for you. Debbie SamE797@aol.com wrote: > Debbie, > > I was looking at the film for my Grand mothers baptism record. The one > record I have says she was baptized on Feb 15, 1884 in Lessen (Lasin) > Graudenz. The record was not on this film but on the death record was a child, who > was a family rumor for years. It stated her name Lucia (Latin) and my great > Grandparents are listed as the parents. There was no other records of my > family on the film. > > The town Szynwald is a seat for records. On the line of the child's death > it lists a similar name in Latin as the place of internment. The internment > may be just the town. No way of knowing without further information. An > Italian friend who is at the LDS a lot said that in most cases it is the > cemetery. Again being a newbie to this, I can not say for sure. > > Sam > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Someone was good enough to advise there are two towns/villages called Peplowo. Our family came from the village near Plock. I have just been able to ascertain that family members were living in Peplowo in 1869. Would anyone out there be able to give me an idea as to what films at the FHC I should be looking at for additional family members? thanks so much! Barbara **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )

Several new cemetery tombstone transcriptions, war memorials and a priests' list have been added to Poland Gen Web. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~polwgw/polandarchives.html TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTIONS, Poland: Bukowsko, woj. Krosno - 804 names Nowa Wies~ Wielka, woj. Bydgoszcz - 14 names http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~polwgw/polandarchives.html#tomb WAR MEMORIALS: Bydgoszcz War Memorial, woj. Bydgoszcz - 270 names Bydgoszcz Soldiers WWII War Memorial, woj. Bydgoszcz - 60 names Nowa Wies~ Wielka, woj. Bydgoszcz - 40 names Pil~atowszczyzna, woj. Bial~ystok - 7 names Westerplatte, Gdan~sk, woj. Gdan~sk - 202 names http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~polwgw/polandarchives.html#war PRIESTS IN POLAND: Kadzidl~o, woj. Ostrol~e~ka - 17 names http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~polwgw/polandarchives.html#priests Two of the links aren't working but they'll be fixed within a week. If you can't wait please contact me and I'll check the lists for your names. Thank you to Marie Dallas for uploading this information. Debbie

I have just been able to ascertain that family members were living in Peplowo in 1869. Would anyone out there be able to give me an idea as to what films at the FHC I should be looking at for additional family members? thanks so much! Barbara **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Debbie and Bronwyn, I think I'll get a quote from PolGen Research, possibly the researchers Michal and Aleks, and possibly by contacting the church myself. Whatever I can get economically. Ill let you know the outcome. Thanks again for your help! Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Greenlee" <daveg@airmail.net> To: <poland-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] Church records at LDS > Jane, > > I think you skipped a few generations by starting at the end, if you will. > > Since LDS doesn't have the more recent Roman Catholic church records > I'd suggest you contact the parish, in Polish, and request a few > records to get started. Your request must be short and to the point. > There are several web sites and books/booklets available to help with > the appropriate Polish sentences. > > One web page: http://www.polishroots.org/letters/letters_polish.htm > > If the parish does not have the records then you'll need to contact > the diocesan archives. > > Do not send money up front but do ask how you can make a donation. > > Debbie > > Jane wrote: >> Hi listers, >> >> I've just returned from Salt Lake City where I tried to research my >> father's and mother's families. >> >> My father came from Lubenia. There were church records from about 1800 >> to 1850 and I tried to make note of Bieda and Skoczylas families up to >> that time, 1850 that is. I have a gap from then to about 1900. I'll >> have to probably use a researcher in Poland or the Polish archives. What >> is the better choice? >> >> You've also given me the names of researchers in the area. How do they >> charge for their services? I imagine it would be by the hour and with >> expenses. Can anyone give me a ballpark figure as to what was paid to >> the researcher? I realize that it will depend on the number of records >> searched, etc. With the Salt Lake City trip and another small trip, my >> finances are limited. If you can respond to me privately, my address is >> jania1938@wowway.com. >> >> I also tried to research my maternal grandmother's and grandfather's >> families in Wola Rusinowska and Gwoznica. I found microfilms for >> Gwoznica, but they all are records for Greek Catholic churches. This was >> astounding to me as I couldn't imagine Greek Catholics being in Poland. >> Does anyone have an explanation of this? >> >> Again, I'll probably have to get a researcher for this area, or deal with >> the churches themselves. >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated! >> >> > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > Poland-Roots-admin@rootsweb.com > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POLAND-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Debbie, I was looking at the film for my Grand mothers baptism record. The one record I have says she was baptized on Feb 15, 1884 in Lessen (Lasin) Graudenz. The record was not on this film but on the death record was a child, who was a family rumor for years. It stated her name Lucia (Latin) and my great Grandparents are listed as the parents. There was no other records of my family on the film. The town Szynwald is a seat for records. On the line of the child's death it lists a similar name in Latin as the place of internment. The internment may be just the town. No way of knowing without further information. An Italian friend who is at the LDS a lot said that in most cases it is the cemetery. Again being a newbie to this, I can not say for sure. Sam **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Dear Jane, it's not strange for Greek Catholics being in Poland. They are Catholics, but of Eastern rite, and are called "Uniates" for their full link with Roman Catholic Church. If I well remember "Kosciol Greckokatolicki" of Poland has two dioceses (Przemysl and Wroclaw). Italy also has a couple of dioceses of of Greek rite, in particular for communities originating from Albania. Every big Catholic community coming form Russia and border countries has everywhere, in US also (for instance in Canton, OH, for Romanians), his own church and sometimes his own bishop. Info about rites in R.C. Church at <http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P3C.HTM>. Ciao! Guido

Sam, I looked at the LDS film description. What I can't tell is what is really on the film. However, the film should include marriage and death records 1875-1890 in Items 1 & 2. The parish is Szynwald so that means there should be at least a few marriages and deaths of people who lived in the village of Nogat. Was that child's death record you mentioned, a relative of yours? If so, how did you know to look for the record? Aren't the parents' names listed in the record? As for the death records being mostly about infants, infant mortality was high especially prior to modern medicines and the fact that peasants lived in close and crowded quarters. Have you looked at this film 1618634 Item 11? It's births 1875-1890. I wouldn't suggest you troll for records though. It's best to start by looking for someone sepcific. In case you don't know: Parish of Szynwald http://www.diecezja.torun.pl/par_pokaz.php?idpar=141 What exactly (names, relationships, dates) are you trying to find in the Szynwald parish records? Debbie SamE797@aol.com wrote: > Debbie, > > The Film number is 1618635 > > It is Synwald cemetery records. On Item #2 It says K/Lasina on the > beginning. None of the other records have any thing about the Nogat area. > The parish listed on item #2 is S.T. Nativiatis BMV. The other records on the > film seem to be from a St Nicholai Conf. > > Most of the deaths are infants. So I am not sure if it was just the time > in history or if this cemetery was mostly for children. > > Cross checking some of the names I could not seem to find people listed > on Item #2 anywhere else on the film. There are marriages and baptisms but I > could not find kids listed on Baptism. Etc. It is mostly Latin also. > It is 1875 to 1890 > Hope this is a help. > > Sam > > debbie wrote:Sam, There may be a misunderstanding here. You seemed to indicate that you met people at your local FHC who were doing Polish research. I was referring to the films that your FHC may be holding on "indefinite loan" which anyone can use. You might find films for your ancestors' parishes at your FHC. It would be unusual to find other people who have done research in your ancestral village however, it certainly does happen but these connections are only made when people see a common surname and/or village name on the internet. When enough people "find" each other generally they will start-up an email list just for people researching that surname or place name. If you are having trouble getting information out of the parish in Nanticote, I suggest you contact the diocese involved and find out if they have any of the Nanticote church records in their archives. You mentioned you found a death record for a child in Nogat. On exactly which film did you find this? Do you have the title or number? Debbie SamE797@aol.com wrote: Debbie, > > I am just outside of Philadelphia Pa. I checked with the local LDS and very few here are checking Poland. The one I talked to has only been in the US 10 years and he is using LDS and his know relative to get data. > Unfortunately he is from Warsaw. My family settled in Nanticote Pennsylvania in late 1884. A lot of them stayed in the area. So most of the information on the ones in Pa I have. It is getting information on the roots in Poland. Again they came from the Grudziadz area. However the only record I have found so far from LDS is the death of a child and the town was listed as Nogat. (Latin Nogath) From what my Aunt remembers (she had a very good mind) most of Nanticote was Polish and most were from the same area in Poland. The catholic church there was started in 1870. Unfortunately the church is not very cooperative. The Phila Catholic church will NOT let the LDS copy any records. Some of the churchs will help but most will not from what I have been told. > The local court house records were in Scranton Pa and that burned down some time in the mid 1900 so a lot of those records were lost. So they say. > > Thanks for the help. > Sam >

Debbie, I forgot to put the dates on the film. It is 1875 to 1890 Sam **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Debbie, The Film number is 1618635 It is Synwald cemetery records. On Item #2 It says K/Lasina on the beginning. None of the other records have any thing about the Nogat area. The parish listed on item #2 is S.T. Nativiatis BMV. The other records on the film seem to be from a St Nicholai Conf. Most of the deaths are infants. So I am not sure if it was just the time in history or if this cemetery was mostly for children. Cross checking some of the names I could not seem to find people listed on Item #2 anywhere else on the film. There are marriages and baptisms but I could not find kids listed on Baptism. Etc. It is mostly Latin also. Hope this is a help. Sam **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Sam, There may be a misunderstanding here. You seemed to indicate that you met people at your local FHC who were doing Polish research. I was referring to the films that your FHC may be holding on "indefinite loan" which anyone can use. You might find films for your ancestors' parishes at your FHC. It would be unusual to find other people who have done research in your ancestral village however, it certainly does happen but these connections are only made when people see a common surname and/or village name on the internet. When enough people "find" each other generally they will start-up an email list just for people researching that surname or place name. If you are having trouble getting information out of the parish in Nanticote, I suggest you contact the diocese involved and find out if they have any of the Nanticote church records in their archives. You mentioned you found a death record for a child in Nogat. On exactly which film did you find this? Do you have the title or number? Debbie SamE797@aol.com wrote: > Debbie, > > I am just outside of Philadelphia Pa. I checked with the local LDS and > very few here are checking Poland. The one I talked to has only been in the > US 10 years and he is using LDS and his know relative to get data. > Unfortunately he is from Warsaw. My family settled in Nanticote Pennsylvania in late > 1884. A lot of them stayed in the area. So most of the information on the > ones in Pa I have. It is getting information on the roots in Poland. Again > they came from the Grudziadz area. However the only record I have found so > far from LDS is the death of a child and the town was listed as Nogat. > (Latin Nogath) From what my Aunt remembers (she had a very good mind) most of > Nanticote was Polish and most were from the same area in Poland. The catholic > church there was started in 1870. Unfortunately the church is not very > cooperative. The Phila Catholic church will NOT let the LDS copy any records. > Some of the churchs will help but most will not from what I have been told. > The local court house records were in Scranton Pa and that burned down some > time in the mid 1900 so a lot of those records were lost. So they say. > > Thanks for the help. > Sam >

Debbie, I am just outside of Philadelphia Pa. I checked with the local LDS and very few here are checking Poland. The one I talked to has only been in the US 10 years and he is using LDS and his know relative to get data. Unfortunately he is from Warsaw. My family settled in Nanticote Pennsylvania in late 1884. A lot of them stayed in the area. So most of the information on the ones in Pa I have. It is getting information on the roots in Poland. Again they came from the Grudziadz area. However the only record I have found so far from LDS is the death of a child and the town was listed as Nogat. (Latin Nogath) From what my Aunt remembers (she had a very good mind) most of Nanticote was Polish and most were from the same area in Poland. The catholic church there was started in 1870. Unfortunately the church is not very cooperative. The Phila Catholic church will NOT let the LDS copy any records. Some of the churchs will help but most will not from what I have been told. The local court house records were in Scranton Pa and that burned down some time in the mid 1900 so a lot of those records were lost. So they say. Thanks for the help. Sam **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Sam? Are you a member of PGSA? It seems to me the society has a database of names its members are researching. I don't know if that's what you had in mind. The best way to find out (aside from checking with a society) if someone else is researching your family is to post the names of the people you are researching along with some pertinent info. It wouldn't hurt to list some names in a post or after your name, as a signature. Not knowing exactly what you're looking for all I can suggest is that if you're in the Chicago area and your ancestors settled there, you might want to visit the area LDS Family History Centers. I bet many of them have films on "permanent" loan which means you wouldn't have to rent them; that is, if the center has the films you need. Debbie SamE797@aol.com wrote: > Debbie, > > It would be nice to attend, however when you have limited time and funds > it is impossible. It is hard when you don't have a lot of time to spend > looking up your family tree. Surely a lot of time and effort has been spent > finding families records. Those who have gone threw this process know what is > involved. If the Society could find a way of letting us newbies know who has > done extensive research on what areas it would ease the burden. Some newbie > could have family documents or information not found by the experts who have > gone before. Every one keep on looking and hope the conference goes well. > >

Debbie, It would be nice to attend, however when you have limited time and funds it is impossible. It is hard when you don't have a lot of time to spend looking up your family tree. Surely a lot of time and effort has been spent finding families records. Those who have gone threw this process know what is involved. If the Society could find a way of letting us newbies know who has done extensive research on what areas it would ease the burden. Some newbie could have family documents or information not found by the experts who have gone before. Every one keep on looking and hope the conference goes well. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

I'll be there -- staying at the Double Tree/Schaumburg. -- Alan On Aug 12, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Debbie Greenlee wrote: > Just wondering who else will be attending the annual Polish > Genealogical Society of America conference Sept. 19-20 in Rolling > Meadows (northwest suburb of Chicago), Illinois? > > http://www.pgsa.org/2008Conference/Conference2008.htm > > > Debbie

Just wondering who else will be attending the annual Polish Genealogical Society of America conference Sept. 19-20 in Rolling Meadows (northwest suburb of Chicago), Illinois? http://www.pgsa.org/2008Conference/Conference2008.htm Debbie

http://www.uscis.gov (click on Services & Benefits; then click on Genealogy) The US Citizenship & Immigration Services will offer online orders for genealogical records as of tomorrow. These include some naturalizations, visa applications, and alien registrations, to name just a few offerings. My great-grandfather (Martin Wolniakowski), who lived in Milwaukee, filed first papers but did not become a citizen, so he filed an alien reg. form. The copy I received was so valuable, containing information about his military service in Pol/Germ, alias (Wolfe), and other data. Might be worth a look; now that you can order online, hopefully it will be much easier. Karen

Jane, I think you skipped a few generations by starting at the end, if you will. Since LDS doesn't have the more recent Roman Catholic church records I'd suggest you contact the parish, in Polish, and request a few records to get started. Your request must be short and to the point. There are several web sites and books/booklets available to help with the appropriate Polish sentences. One web page: http://www.polishroots.org/letters/letters_polish.htm If the parish does not have the records then you'll need to contact the diocesan archives. Do not send money up front but do ask how you can make a donation. Debbie Jane wrote: > Hi listers, > > I've just returned from Salt Lake City where I tried to research my father's and mother's families. > > My father came from Lubenia. There were church records from about 1800 to 1850 and I tried to make note of Bieda and Skoczylas families up to that time, 1850 that is. I have a gap from then to about 1900. I'll have to probably use a researcher in Poland or the Polish archives. What is the better choice? > > You've also given me the names of researchers in the area. How do they charge for their services? I imagine it would be by the hour and with expenses. Can anyone give me a ballpark figure as to what was paid to the researcher? I realize that it will depend on the number of records searched, etc. With the Salt Lake City trip and another small trip, my finances are limited. If you can respond to me privately, my address is jania1938@wowway.com. > > I also tried to research my maternal grandmother's and grandfather's families in Wola Rusinowska and Gwoznica. I found microfilms for Gwoznica, but they all are records for Greek Catholic churches. This was astounding to me as I couldn't imagine Greek Catholics being in Poland. Does anyone have an explanation of this? > > Again, I'll probably have to get a researcher for this area, or deal with the churches themselves. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > >